Sunday, October 23, 2016

Well that is a good question.

One of the excuses bandied about is that Wikileaks actually has the information posted on their website before they tweet it.

However it has also been pointed out that RT sometimes has THEIR post written even earlier and their tweets can lead a Wikileaks tweet by as much as 30 minutes.

Kind of hard not to make certain assumptions.

71 comments:

  1. It's just as well that Trump's Russian handlers are facing a seriously uphill battle.

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  2. Anonymous8:45 AM

    I know Russia seems dangerous but the obsession over it coupled with how people ignore china, which makes Russia look like Disneyland, is odd. China actually buys Us corporations. China actually has a hand in film industry here. China is responsible for the most death ever. More than Stalin. Putin is just a dictator in a fake democracy.

    Canada elected a leader (Trudeau) whose party has ties to china. And Trudeau pulled a complete 180 on the pipeline pissig off westerners.

    The us already doesn't have a true democracy just because of the electoral college and how easy it was for democrats to rig their primary and rig the media. This has all been proven.

    This isn't a defense of trump. But everything he's said has merit.

    Double standards exist. And it's not fair.

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    1. Anonymous9:57 AM

      Do you really believe that "everything" Trump has said "has merit"?
      Beaglemom

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    2. Anonymous10:09 AM

      Putin wants to control the world, china just wants to make money.

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    3. Anonymous10:46 AM

      Trump just wants to buy cheap steel from China and wants his ego stroked by Russia, before Putin pulls the strings around his neck.

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    4. "democrats to rig their primary and rig the media. This has all been proven."
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      Bullshit. You are lying, crazy, or both.

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    5. Anonymous10:55 AM

      Putin will be punted so count him out!

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    6. Anonymous1:12 PM

      Whenever someone says "This has all been proven. " you can be pretty sure it has not.

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    7. Anonymous1:20 PM

      NOT FUCKING FAIR????

      * hacking the US election
      * presiding over mass slaughter in Syria
      * annexing Crimea
      * talking casually about using nuclear weapons
      * moving nuclear-capable missiles close to Lithuania and Poland
      * sending and aircraft-carrier group down the North Sea and the English Channel
      * threatening to shoot down any American plane that attacks the forces of the evil Assad

      You're a fucking Putin mole, aren't you?

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    8. Anonymous1:21 PM

      I just realized it's Alicia the IM stalker.

      She is obviously becoming increasingly crazy. And OFFENSIVE.

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  3. Anonymous9:05 AM

    The new ABC News/Washington Post has found that Donald Trump is threatening to depress Republican turnout by nearly 20 points as poll indicators point to a building Democratic wave.

    According to the poll, “The previous ABC/Post poll found a sharp 12-point decline in enthusiasm for Trump among his supporters, almost exclusively among those who’d preferred a different GOP nominee. Intended participation now has followed: The share of registered Republicans who are likely to vote is down 7 points since mid-October.”

    An equally large problem for Republicans is that Trump’s support is in collapse with white voters. Clinton leads Trump with men 44%-41%. She has gained 12 points with non-college educated white women and has opened up a 32 point lead with college-educated white women. Trump leads Clinton with white voters by just 4 points, 47%-43%. Mitt Romney carried these voters by 20 points in 2012.

    Donald Trump’s election rigging claims and the way he has attacked the women who are accusing him of sexual assault have backfired and depressed Republican turnout.

    The numbers in the ABC News/Washington Post poll are more concrete because they aren’t based on mythic enthusiasm. It is a straight up question of whether or not people are going to vote.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10/23/democratic-wave-coming-number-republicans-vote-drops-20.html

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    1. Anonymous1:37 PM

      Nate Silver says the same thing.

      http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-trump-may-depress-republican-turnout-spelling-disaster-for-the-gop/?ex_cid=2016-forecast

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  4. Anonymous9:09 AM

    He'd have something if what he'd shown was the time the RT story was posted was earlier than when WL released the email batch. The tweet times don't prove what he's claiming. But then if you're logical, you can't make "certain assumptions", can you? And who really cares, what these emails are showing is that people write stupid stuff in emails, even people who are supposed to be smart. And really when has a leak of any kind ever show us that people are better or more noble than we thought?

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  5. Anonymous9:14 AM

    Am I the only one that turns a deaf ear to anything Wikileaks? I'm sick of all of it! Get out and VOTE!

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    1. Anonymous9:56 AM

      My thoughts exactly. I wonder also if Trump is now in so deep that he can't possibly get out. Scary thought. How much money does he owe Russian banks?
      Beaglemom

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    2. Anonymous10:05 AM

      Same here. Julian Assange, Legend In His Own Mind.

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    3. Anonymous10:35 AM

      It is now October 23rd. They've hinted at some kind of game changing 'October surprise' but they're rapidly running out of October.

      In the meantime, millions of people have already voted while Trump continues to open his mouth and cause additional damage to his campaign and the GOP.

      It would take a scandal of enormous proportions to swing the election to Trump and, if there was that kind of scandal, the Republicans would have discovered it ages ago.

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    4. Anonymous10:44 AM

      I hope that he IS in deep, Beaglemom. They don't mess around; maybe that's why he can't sleep at night? I hope he loses and loses bigly.

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    5. Anonymous11:07 AM

      10:35 AM - I've seen RW sites that claim there will be Russian observers at polling places to ensure there is no cheating.

      Really? In a country of 325 million people, just how are they going to do that? OMG, the stupid burns!

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    6. Anonymous5:56 PM

      Russian observers for a US election and they claim Trump has no ties to Putin.

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  6. Anonymous9:24 AM

    Ruh Roh, I guess this proves tRump and the GoPee are in bed with Russia.

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  7. Anonymous9:27 AM

    It's called being a "tool". I think Wikileaks is the tool for RT. P.U.

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  8. Anonymous9:36 AM

    TRUTH.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t9-9N1PkGE

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  9. Anonymous9:46 AM

    We have no idea what is real and what is edited with what is being put out by the Leaks. I look at some of the items and see how easy it is to change the wording and suspect it is being done repeatedly.

    On AM Joy one of the guests stated that the name Trump is now in concert with the word Swastika. Absolutely true! IMHO

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    1. Anonymous2:59 PM

      We know they're unaltered because the DKIM signatures have been verified. If any of the wording was altered after sent, the DKIM wouldn't verify
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DomainKeys_Identified_Mail

      This is why nobody's produced an email that demonstrates one released by wikileaks has been altered. They can't. The ones being released haven't been altered.
      Educate yourself before you make any more ignorant statements about being able to recognize that emails have been altered.
      http://blog.erratasec.com/2016/10/yes-we-can-validate-wikileaks-emails.html#.WA1AVPTfufU

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  10. Anonymous9:46 AM

    Ooops

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  11. Anonymous9:52 AM

    It's being revealed that Hillary's team oversamples democrats in polls, rigging them.

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    1. Anonymous10:33 AM

      The polls cited in the news are national polls.Polls done by the campaign are internal polls.Get your facts straight,not straight from the goobers fronting for Trump,actually straight.

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    2. Anonymous10:47 AM

      It's being revealed that a poll taken at the Vatican would greatly oversample Catholic priests. Because they OUTNUMBER EVERYONE ELSE!

      More people are registered as Democrats and, therefore, polls that sample more Democrats than Republicans are actually accurate representations of the public at large.

      And, by the way, ALL the scientifically based polls have Clinton winning the election and they're conducted by independent polling and/or news organizations, NOT BY HILLARY'S CAMPAIGN!

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    3. 9:52, it's obvious you don't know anything about polling processes, nor does whatever tin hat site you are getting this silly crap from.

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    4. Anonymous10:56 AM

      http://nypost.com/2016/08/01/melania-trumps-girl-on-girl-photos-from-racy-shoot-revealed/

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    5. Anonymous1:13 PM

      You idiot, what are you even doing here?

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    6. Anonymous1:34 PM

      10:54, that came right out of email between those geniuses,Podesta and Tanden.

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  12. Anonymous9:53 AM

    “He’s been waterboarded by these issues,” Brewer replied.
    torture now..<drumpf
    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/jan-brewer-donald-trump-was-waterboarded-by-women-who-accused-him-of-groping/

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    1. Anonymous10:37 AM

      I thought she was all for waterboarding? Let's really waterboard him and get the truth.

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    2. Anonymous10:56 AM

      You can be sure that Jan Brewer would not be Trump's 1st choice, "look at her".

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    3. Anonymous11:52 AM

      Not funny funny>"But NEVER FORGET how many millions of people voted and WILL vote for that sadistic fascist --- listen to their cheers when he said he loves torture. These people ARE living among us.
      http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2016/10/waterboarded-by-issues.html

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    4. Anonymous1:40 PM

      Jan Brewer said Trump will easily win Arizona because "Mexicans don't vote."

      Yes, this from the woman who disrespected President Obama when he landed in Arizona.

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  13. Anonymous9:56 AM

    Who or what is RT America?

    RUSSIA TODAY

    RT, originally Russia Today, is a television network funded by the Russian government. It operates cable and satellite television channels directed to audiences outside of Russia as well as providing Internet content in various languages, including Russian.

    RT International, based in Moscow, Russia, presents around-the-clock news bulletins, documentaries, talk shows, debates, sports news, and cultural programmes about Russia. RT operates as a multilingual service with conventional channels in three languages: the original English language channel was launched in 2005, the Arabic language channel in 2007, and the Spanish language channel in 2009. RT America (since 2010), and RT UK (since 2014) offer some locally based content for those countries.

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    1. Anonymous10:31 AM

      100% funded by the Krelim.

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    2. Anonymous11:03 AM

      Word is they forgot that beyond their Kremlin lives lesser peoples. Sounds like they need a reminder.

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  14. Anonymous9:57 AM

    They asked>
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/oklahoma-rejects-russian-request-monitor-election-state-225532671.html

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  15. Anonymous9:58 AM

    RT is a brand of "TV-Novosti", an "autonomous non-profit organization", founded by the Russian news agency, RIA Novosti, on April 6, 2005. During the economic crisis in December 2008, the Russian Government, headed by Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, included ANO "TV-Novosti" in the list of core organizations of strategic importance of Russia.

    Critics regard RT as a propaganda outlet for the Russian government and its foreign policy.

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  16. Anonymous10:14 AM

    OT:"Like Trump, Gingrich did whatever it took to win, regardless of the consequences. In 1996"“the forces Mr. Gingrich unleashed destroyed whatever comity existed across party lines.” Gingrich’s Republican Party became “ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.”Newt Gingrich is positioning himself to be the politician best able to mobilize Trump supporters going forward."
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-trust-destroyers_us_580ce453e4b02444efa3ec4d?section=

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  17. Anonymous10:14 AM

    Oh boris darling, your so full of greatly informationly. Yes Bullwinkle annie, boris good and manfart better. So boris you work hard for baren rumpest drumpt? yep boris says with cold shifty eyes. Stay tuned to the new reality show preview.

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  18. Anonymous10:17 AM

    Rocket J Squirrel to the rescue from boris and baren rumpest drumpest er and sinky dingy.

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    1. Anonymous10:34 AM

      This made me giggle!

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  19. Anonymous10:17 AM

    In the Land of Raw Firepower, a Feeling That Trump Is Out of Ammo

    Machine gun enthusiasts gather to celebrate their beloved and embattled weapon. The prospect of losing White House and Senate gives them nothing to cheer about.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/in-the-land-of-raw-firepower-a-feeling-that-trump-is-out-of-ammo-214382

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  20. Anonymous10:18 AM

    Debbie Allen's FREEZE FRAME... Stop the Madness
    http://www.kennedy-center.org/calendar/event/TRDSW

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  21. Anonymous10:20 AM

    Obama endorses all the way down ballot

    After watching the GOP make large gains in statehouses during his presidency, Obama is building his party from the bottom up.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/obama-endorsements-down-ballot-230194

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    1. Anonymous1:43 PM

      Just saw his ad for Kamala Harris last night.

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  22. Anonymous10:22 AM

    Let's see, what could it mean....

    Maybe that Vlad the Impaler is behind the hacking? That the hackers are subtly changing the meanings in the emails? Hell, if I can do that to emails with FREE software, hackers sure as shootin' can.

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    1. Anonymous1:29 PM

      Tests of DKIM of various emails from the source code at wikileaks is showing they haven't been altered. Claiming this makes Dems look silly.

      http://blog.erratasec.com/2016/10/yes-we-can-validate-wikileaks-emails.html#.WA0rNfTfufU

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  23. Anonymous10:29 AM

    Clinton Vaults to a Double-Digit Lead, Boosted by Broad Disapproval of Trump (POLL)

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clinton-vaults-double-digit-lead-boosted-broad-disapproval/story?id=42993821

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    1. Anonymous11:14 AM

      The New Yorker Endorses Hillary Clinton

      The election of Hillary Clinton is an event that we would welcome for its historical importance, and greet with indescribable relief.

      http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/31/the-new-yorker-endorses-hillary-clinton

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  24. Anonymous10:30 AM

    The trend in the polls is unmistakable - and very good news

    http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/10/23/1585954/-The-trend-in-the-polls-is-unmistakable-and-very-good-news

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  25. Anonymous10:42 AM

    Republicans abandon Fox News: Roger Ailes has turned GOP voters from their favorite channel

    http://www.salon.com/2016/10/21/republicans-abandon-fox-news-roger-ailes-has-turned-gop-voters-from-their-favorite-channel/

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    1. Anonymous1:44 PM

      AHA!

      Trump sees an opportunity for Trump TV to fill a void.

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  26. Anonymous10:46 AM

    Third installment of SNL debate cold opener!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kjyltrKZSY

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    1. Anonymous11:10 AM

      LOVE when she yelled, "BINGO!"

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  27. Anonymous12:12 PM

    CounterClash:
    http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/22/technology/russian-foreign-ministry-hacked/index.html

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  28. Anonymous12:45 PM

    Assange and Putin have been in bed together for years. They say the reason that Snowden is in Russia is to be protected in a way that other state security in perhaps a South American country couldn't do- and that was at Assange's insistence. If Assange could escape he would be in Russia too.

    The reason that we know that the KGB hacked the DNC is because they tampered with the contents of some emails and left their electronic fingerprints on them. We also know that the Far Right US Extremists have been busy spreading around fake DNC emails.

    So frankly it's best to ignore them, there's zero information of any value to anyone on them so far.

    And as for Hillary's 33,000 personal emails, I have around half that many in my computer- most of which should be deleted but a good number of which have never been read- and would only sort through them if I had to.

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    1. Anonymous2:49 PM

      "So frankly it's best to ignore them, there's zero information of any value to anyone on them so far."

      Oh, there's a lot of valuable information in them. We're learning people we thought were smart and politically asture are dopes. Podesta had P@ssw0rd as the password to his email. Stupid. Careless. Neera Tanden is a foul-mouthed backstabber. Chelsea Clinton had two alias email personas: Ana James and Diana Roberts. But people wrote messages to these addresses - "Hi Chelsea". Dumb. They bullied Tulsi Gabbard when she endorsed Sanders. They called Sanders names. I'm glad to learn they wrote emails containing things only a fool would put in writing. Suggestions how to rat fuck Bernie. It's good for us to learn they aren't as good and sweet and kind and good as the ultra-pro-Hillary types want us to believe. Clinton's a fool if she makes Tanden her chief of staff as is rumored. She's damaged goods.

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    2. Anonymous2:52 PM

      "The reason that we know that the KGB hacked the DNC is because they tampered with the contents of some emails and left their electronic fingerprints on them. "
      Actually, no,we don't know that. And both the DNC emails and the Podesta emails check out by DKIM validation. Use your noodle. If there were altered emails coming out, why aren't Donna Brazile, John Podesta, DWS releasing the real emails and showing us they've been altered? Because they haven't been altered. The DKIMs show they're unaltered.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DomainKeys_Identified_Mail

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  29. Anonymous12:46 PM

    I geniunely couldn't say which I find more repulsive to watch- the real Trump or the Baldwin Trump. Alec Baldwin is soooo good.

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  30. Anonymous2:38 PM

    "In the meantime, millions of people have already voted "
    So what. We vote for electors, not the candidate. The electors don't vote until Dec 19th. If an enormous scandal is revealed, they could revolt and not vote for the person the scandal's about. Then the Congress meets on Jan 6th to count and certify the electoral votes. They could reject the electoral vote. In that case the House would elect the president and the Senate would elect the VP. Or the president-elect could face enough political pressure to resign before the Inauguration on Jan 20th and the VP would be sworn in. Or if the subject of an enormous scandal had the nerve to still take office, the Congress could get rid of them by impeachment.

    But whatever it is they think they're holding, it's clear it's not just about getting Trump elected or Clinton not elected, it's about causing chaos. If it was about not electing Clinton, they'd have released them during the primary where they may have had the result of Sanders winning. So if Assange hates Clinton, why didn't he screw her over during the primaries? Because it's about causing chaos, not about Clinton.

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  31. Anonymous2:49 PM

    There are so many fucking russians here in Wasilla with their stupid dresses and stupid head scarves that you can't swing a dead cat without hitting one.

    If Palin has trouble with a russian presence she should start here, in Wasilla, because we have a bunch of them.

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    1. Anonymous3:40 PM

      Who was that close Russian friend of the newlyweds?

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    2. Anonymous8:33 PM

      Say, why don't you move then you & Donald Trump can complain about the Mexicans instead. Go away you damn bigot.

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  32. Anonymous4:09 PM

    Does anybody know if Sarah Palin's son, the one on probation, has made an honest woman out of that pregnant door mat he stomped all over? That's an excellent name for his son, Matt.

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  33. Anonymous8:04 PM

    Really? There's still doubt out there that Russia has been trying to manipulate our election? Putin is former KGB. They have been refining their propaganda machine for decades. It's almost top notch and it has infiltrated our news network, our political idealogy, and the internet conspiracy videos. The Russian disinformation technique is playing in our lives now. As Americans we have to be better informed so as citizens we can protect ourselves from lies. That all they are, lies.

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