Wednesday, November 02, 2016

Despite Republican talking points it turns out the FBI did NOT ask Clinton aides for all of their electronic devices.

Courtesy of Politico: 

The FBI never asked Hillary Clinton's top aides to turn over all the computers and smartphones they used while Clinton was secretary of state, an omission that is now triggering questions from Republican lawmakers. 

While the FBI made a concerted effort to obtain all the computers that were used as Clinton's private server and ultimately asked two of Clinton's lawyers for laptops used to review her email messages, investigators never requested or demanded all equipment her top staffers used for work purposes during her four years at State, a source familiar with the investigation told POLITICO. 

"No one was asked for devices by the FBI," said the source, who requested anonymity. 

Even if you have only casually been paying attention to this story you have probably heard one of Trump's surrogates, or a GOP operative, ranting that these discovered e-mails prove that the Clinton camp defied a court order to turn over ALL of their electronic devices during the investigation into Hillary's private server.

But as it turns out there was never a subpoena served nor even an official request made.

The only known official requests Abedin and other Clinton aides appear to have received for their own emails from the period were requests the State Department made last year for potential federal records the aides might have in their possession and requests the House Benghazi Committee made for certain Libya-related records around the same time. In neither instance were the aides asked for their computers , smartphones or backup drives. 

In most news reports we learned that Abedin was cooperative during the investigation and there is no reason to suspect otherwise at this point.

And as it turns out even SHE was surprised that e-mails were found on this device: 

In another twist to the investigative saga over Hillary Clinton’s private emails, CBS News has learned that Huma Abedin, a top Clinton aide and longtime confidant, says she has no knowledge of any of her emails being on the electronic device belonging to her estranged husband, disgraced ex-congressman Anthony Weiner. 

A source familiar with the investigation told CBS News that the computer where FBI investigators found the latest trove of emails belonged to Weiner, not Abedin. The two separated earlier this year, following news of Weiner’s continued sexting practices. 

My prediction is that just like every....other....time this is going to prove to be much ado about nothing.

And if all of this really does have an effect on the outcome of this election then James Comey should be investigated fully to determine just how twisted his arm or paid him off to throw a wrench into the works.


  1. OT
    It's finally going to his mainstream media @3pm/PST Trump's child rape victim will be holding a conference with her lawyer in Woodland Hills, CA

    1. Anonymous12:31 PM

      Really, wow.
      Just as well a 13 yr old then taking down a 4 yr old today.

    2. Anonymous12:46 PM

      I was very glad to read this and to also see HuffPo write an article about why the MSM hasn't been talking about the rape case. This stuff needs to be out there messing things up for Trump!

    3. Anonymous12:48 PM

      He also raped a 12 year old and made her "disappear" which scared the 13 year old.
      I didn't know that Lisa Bloom, who is the rape victim's current lawyer, is Gloria Allred's daughter. Cool!

    4. Anonymous12:52 PM

      Lawyer for Trump accuser: He’ll be in court for child rape and more even if he’s elected president

      ...Miller welcomed Bloom to the show and the two began to try and count up how many woman are currently claiming that Trump raped or assaulted them.

      “This is the conversation we’re having now, Lisa,” marveled Miller, “where we’re having a hard time keeping track of sexual assault or rape allegations against someone that has a good chance of becoming president.”

      Bloom said she’s heard from a number of women who are still too frightened to come forward. “Behind the scenes, there’s a lot of fear, there’s a lot of trauma,” she said.

      She is currently representing Jill Harth, the woman who made the first assault allegations against Trump.

      “The fear is overwhelming,” she said. “Donald Trump has threatened to sue everyone. His followers have been known to be violent. There are very rational reasons why women don’t come out with stories of sexual assault. Most women don’t.”

    5. Anonymous1:13 PM

      Thank you, thank you, than....

    6. Anonymous5:37 PM

      Well, the former 13y/o is in hiding because of new threats against her.
      Why would they want to show her face and disclose her name?! Why not have her behind a mask, or hidden behind a Burka-style clothing?!

  2. Anonymous12:44 PM

    It feels like this is just a matter of the same emails showing up on the other computer because she uses something like Outlook or Live Mail usually and anyone logging into her Yahoo email page on another computer would see the same emails there.

    1. Anonymous1:29 PM

      Wow you really don't understand how email works do you.

    2. Anonymous1:41 PM

      I saw a story? opinion? somewhere that they were in cloud storage and downloaded by the FBI onto her husband's computer. I can't find it anywhere else so I'm guessing that was speculation.

      Then again, I use my husband's laptop because he has better video editing software than I do and he has no idea what files I leave behind. (I just asked him)

    3. Anonymous6:27 PM

      Is that the story now? That the FBI downloaded the emails onto Weiner's computer? HA, good one.

      The report from the anonymous sources is the emails were in a folder on his laptop. The tale of how they got there depends on whether the anonymous source is spinning pro-Clinton or anti-Clinton. But we really don't know yet. The "sources" say they're not current. They're older emails from when Clinton was Sec of State.

      But it's probably fair to conclude that no, the FBI didn't stumble onto these emails by logging onto Huma's yahoo email account from Weiner's laptop.

  3. Anonymous12:49 PM


    White Nationalist 'Truly Sorry' For Homophobic Anti-McMullin Robocalls

  4. Anonymous12:50 PM

    Obama And Pelosi Throwing All The Shade At Dumb James Comey, And It Is LOL

    Lots of people have been kind of annoyed with President Bamz the past few days — like not annoyed enough to stop loving him madly forever and ever, just perturbed — because he appeared to be Standing By His Man in refusing to criticize FBI Director James Comey for being a politics-playing douche-snort and meddling in the election by revealing to the American public that Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin did some emailing about stuff...

    ...But Obama has now spoken up, in an interview with NowThis News! The preznit of America has some things to share with his ding-dong FBI director about FBI-ing, How Does IT Work? But just like Bamz and Michelle Obama do when they’re talking about Trump, HE DIDN’T EVEN SAY COMEY’S NAME. Ooh girl, Barry just put you in the TRUMP ZONE, I know that’s right!

  5. Anonymous12:51 PM

    Sometimes the best arguments come from the most unlikely sources. For example, comedian Louis C.K. delivered the best argument for voting for Hillary Clinton that you will hear from anyone during this election.


  6. Anonymous1:03 PM

    Claire McCaskill: 'Majority' Of Senate Republicans Won't Vote Trump

  7. Anonymous1:04 PM

    Nancy Pelosi: Comey 'Couldn't Take The Heat' From Republicans

  8. Anonymous1:10 PM

    DAMN RIGHT, we're with her!

  9. Anonymous1:11 PM

    Donald Trump, Trump surrogates, Trump campaign and the Republican Party are all alike:


    They tell you only what they want to tell you.

    They will exaggerate and lie to sell you a car

    Once you buy a new car (bad car) you are stuck with it

    Once Trump is elected president you are stuck with a lying con for four years.

    1. Anonymous5:42 PM

      Actually, I don't think so. I actually believe that the ReThugs are hoping he will be elected, and then, the minute that happens, they impeach him - and we will be stuck with a President Pence, and a hand-picked-by-the-GOP VP.
      Not sure, which scenario will be worse - tRump for 4years, or a pair of super-religious zealots!
      VOTE BLUE!!!

  10. Anonymous1:13 PM

  11. Anonymous1:15 PM

    OT, but I hate that Michelle Obama is nowhere on the trail this week. I thought the plan was for her to be.

  12. Anonymous1:18 PM

    Donald Trump Will Not Get His Son-In-Law’s Newspaper’s Endorsement

    The New York Observer has chosen not to back a presidential candidate at all.

    1 hour ago | Updated 45 minutes ago

    1. Anonymous1:28 PM

      This is Ivanka's husband

  13. Anonymous1:29 PM

    What is hilarious is every headline, every article about this batch of Abedin emails since last Friday, including this one, is based on anonymous sources. Who, because we don't know who they are, we can't judge whether they're really in a position to know. All these articles breathlessly imply it's someone who's an insider. But use your noodles. The only insiders who know or have seen these emails are FBI agents, maybe a couple of Justice Dept officials. If that's who's leaking, they're a) breaking the law and b) risking their jobs because they're entirely traceable by the FBI. So all these articles are best taken with a large grain of salt and some healthy skepticism that it's mostly spinmeisters spinning for the side they're on, not real facts.

  14. Anonymous1:35 PM

    What is the FBI director going to "throw out there" next? Did Socks the cat have an email account?

    Instead of investigating Russia and ties to Trump the media keeps yakking about emails that might not even have anything to do with Hillary.

  15. Anonymous1:37 PM

  16. Anonymous1:41 PM

    I'm not really sure what they mean by "ON the laptop," anyway - aren't the email systems webbased or in the cloud? The emails aren't on the device's hard drive, surely?

    1. Anonymous7:18 PM

      Yes. They're in a folder on the hard drive is what's being reported.

    2. Anonymous7:46 PM

      Depends. My e-mail is in the cloud, but my folders on on my laptop. If I've filed anything it's on my computer even when I'm not connected.

  17. Anonymous1:42 PM

    ... He has destroyed careers...


    NOV. 2 2016 2:36 PM

    Trump Can Happen Again -

    The conditions within the GOP that created him not only remain but have been reinforced.

    By Jamelle Bouie

    Donald Trump is a dud of politician who squandered his advantages in a winnable election. More than just a bad candidate, he has been a catastrophe for the GOP itself. He has destroyed careers, compromised institutions, revealed deep contradictions within the Republican Party, and heightened tensions between its voters and its lawmakers, its activists and its intellectuals. On Nov. 8, nearly 18 months after he announced his bid for the Republican presidential nomination, the saga of Trump will come to a close. If polls are accurate, he will lose. He may even face a landslide, as Hillary Clinton capitalizes on a superior campaign to score victories in states like Arizona, Georgia, and Texas. There’s a slim but real chance that, when the smoke clears, Trump will have led the GOP to a historic defeat, handing the White House, the Senate, and the House of Representatives to the Democratic Party....

    .... In turn, white nationalists have coalesced around Trump, backing him as an advocate for their interests. During the GOP primary, figures such as Jared Taylor of the “race realist” American Renaissance website—a pioneer in the white nationalist movement—recorded robocalls for the Trump campaign. Likewise, a younger generation of activist racists turned to Twitter and forums like Reddit, 4chan, and 8chan to spread the gospel that Trump was the one, a leader who would bring mainstream legitimacy and acceptance to their cause...

  18. Anonymous1:43 PM

    The ‘Unskewed Polls’ Guy Thinks Clinton Will Win

  19. Anonymous1:45 PM

    Everyone Loves This 102-Year-Old Lady Who Voted for Hillary Clinton

    Women got the right to vote in 1920.

    Jerry Emmett was born in 1914.

    This year, the woman — who can actually remember her mother leaving their home to vote for the first time after the 19th Amendment was ratified — voted for the first female presidential nominee from a major party, Hillary Clinton, according to the New York Daily News. She made sure to vote early and is urging others in her state to do the same.

  20. Anonymous1:45 PM

    Well, now anyone, who has ever been in eye contact, hearing range or who has corresponded with Hillary Clinton and anyone who has ever been in eye contact or hearing range or who has ever corresponded with anyone who has ever been in eye contact, hearing range, etc. with Hillary Clinton, will have to fork over his or her computer. I wonder when the FBI will want the computers of those of us who have received emails from or who have received phone calls placed by anyone connected with the Clinton campaign or who has been registered as a Democrat for more than two days. This is so insane when there is a real story to be investigated about Trump and the Russians! It boggles the mind!

    1. Anonymous2:19 PM

      Trump and the Russians/Trump and Trump U/Trump and Trump Foundation/Trump and his rape of a 13 year old. Nope. All we care about is e-mails. Discouraging to say the least.

    2. Anonymous6:18 PM

      If it weren’t so serious I would suggest that everyone that has received an email from Hillary’s campaign fess up and contact the FBI, I receive at least 10/day.

      However that this point, I doubt the FBI has much of a sense of humor and we would all be arrested for impeding an investigation.

      Meanwhile, Trump and his organization of criminals is in daily contact with the Russians, but of course that isn’t as important as EMAILGAZI!!!!

      I wonder if Trump is elected will he sell AK back to the Ruskis?

  21. Anonymous1:58 PM

    It looks like Hillary Clinton’s swing state firewall is still holding

    A new poll of Wisconsin shows her leading Trump by 6 points.

  22. Anonymous2:05 PM

    Sorry, but I’ve seen this movie before and I know how it ends. There will never be a criminal prosecution of Hillary Clinton for two basic reasons:

  23. Anonymous2:10 PM

    Sure she was 'surprised' they were on there. She got busted and all of a sudden... 'I'm so surprised'. Just like Brazile all of a sudden is a persecuted
    christian because she got busted as a totally unethical 'journalist' (larf) providing debate questions to Clinton ahead of time.

    Better get used to Clinton facing 4 years of endless investigations and scrutiny if she is elected. As she should, she created this whole mess for herself.

    1. Anonymous6:21 PM

      I am sure Clinton will face 4 years of endless investigations because the Republicans like beating a dead horse.

      However, they may have their own surprise- losing the house and senate, they DC can get back to work, after 8 years of them blocking everything.

      Also too,your fixation on Brazile is borderline pathological.

  24. Anonymous2:19 PM

    Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook questioned why the FBI director had not released any information about the agency's Russia inquiries.

    "If you're in the business of releasing information about investigations on presidential candidates, release everything you have on Donald Trump. Release the information on his connections to the Russians," Mook said on CNN.

    The FBI inquiry reviewed allegations that Trump or his associates might have violated the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act or engaged in contacts or commerce with people in Russia who are subject to U.S. or international financial sanctions

    1. Anonymous3:36 PM

      Apparently Comey is concerned that the Trump/Russian information might prejudice the election! Above all, it should horrify all voters and embarrass the GOP mightily. Does anyone remember Joe McCarthy?

    2. Anonymous6:23 PM

      Trump's mentor and attorney was Joe's right hand man.

      Heaven forbid we should embarrass the GOP having a candidate that is a traitor.

      After all remember Benghazi !!!

    3. WA Skeptic7:11 PM

      Talk about the "Manchurian Candidate".

    4. Anonymous2:31 PM

      Uh...Joe McCarthy... McCarthyism... Beaglemom?

      Are you so dimwitted as to not realize the irony that is is the democrats and Hillary that have been actively practicing McCarthyism this whole election?

      Are you really that ignorant?

  25. Anonymous2:20 PM

    Clint Hassleman:
    Mr. Sniffles knows he's losing. Funny stuff. His Russian boyfriend must be sad too.

  26. Anonymous2:21 PM

  27. Anonymous2:22 PM

    David Hoeltje:
    Pastor at Judean People's Front

    Seriously...what has the donald ever done in his life that gave you the impression that he puts America first? The tireless dedication and sacrifice he has shown over the years in serving the American people as an elected official where he has striven to make positive changes and improve as many lives as possible? His line of trump clothing made in China, Bangladesh, Honduras, Mexico and Vietnam? His line of trump furnishings all made overseas? Most of the amenities at his line of hotels made in china? 1/2 of his golf courses and hotels for the wealthy that were built in foreign countries? Boy, the list of his dedication to the American people is endless isn't it?

    1. Anonymous6:25 PM

      He doesn't even hire Americans to WORK at his resorts, gotta bring those immigrants in on visas.

  28. Anonymous2:27 PM


    The Slot:
    Woman Accusing Donald Trump of Raping Her At 13 Fails To Appear At Planned Press Conference

    Anna Merlan
    11 minutes ago
    Filed to: LAWSUIT

    A woman alleging that Donald Trump raped her at 13 at a sex party hosted by notorious celebrity pedophile Jeffrey Epstein was supposed to speak publicly for the first time today, but didn’t appear. The woman was due to appear at a press conference in Los Angeles with celebrity attorney and TV star Lisa Bloom. Instead, Bloom came out alone and said the woman was too afraid to speak.“

    I have bad news for you,” Bloom told a room full of reporters, their cameras at the ready. She said that the woman, who has gone by the pseudonyms Katie Johnson and Jane Doe, had received “numerous threats.”

    “She is living in fear,” Bloom added. “She has decided that she is too afraid to show her face. She’s been here all day ready to do it but unfortunately she’s in terrible fear.” Bloom indicated the press conference would be rescheduled.

    Lisa Bloom is the daughter of famed civil rights attorney Gloria Allred, who has also recently held press conferences with two women accusing Trump of sexual abuse...

    1. Anonymous7:55 PM

      Not surprised.

      As soon as the Deplorables get a lead on her they will hound her to death. They'll publish all of her info, address, phone, e-mail, etc and they let loose the crazies on her.

  29. Anonymous2:35 PM

    RE 13 year old rape victim.

    1. Lisa Bloom is the daughter of famed civil rights attorney Gloria Allred

    - Lisa is the daughter of Allred. So I believe there is a victim.

    2. .... the woman, who has gone by the pseudonyms Katie Johnson and Jane Doe, had received “numerous threats.”

    “She is living in fear,” Bloom added. “She has decided that she is too afraid to show her face. She’s been here all day ready to do it but unfortunately she’s in terrible fear.” Bloom indicated the press conference would be rescheduled.

    - I believe this victim is in fear. We already know how crazy and insane Trump's deplorable are. They are just like Sarah Palin's deplorables.

  30. Anonymous2:49 PM


    "Trump’s attorneys have vigorously denied the allegations, and have threatened to file for sanctions against Johnson’s attorneys if they pursue the suit. A pretrial hearing in the case is set for December 16."

    What Does it Mean When an Attorney Files Sanctions?

    Courts may impose penalties, called sanctions, when improper conduct is employed during litigation. Sanctions are usually fines. A lawyer seeking sanctions must file a motion with the court. A hearing is set during which the lawyer must produce evidence of wrongful conduct. The lawyer may also suggest the amount of sanctions she believes is appropriate for the circumstances. Federal and state statutes specify the improper acts that can give rise to sanctions.

    1. Anonymous6:27 PM

      Well he can threaten all he wants, that is what the Donald and his attorneys do, threaten.

      Threaten to sue, threaten sanctions all as scare tactics.

  31. Anonymous3:03 PM


    Matt Ferner ✔@matthewferner

    Press conference cancelled, Jane Doe has received numerous threats, afraid to show her face. -Lisa Bloom
    3:06 PM - 2 Nov 2016

    Being suspicious, besides Trump's deployables, could the person(s) threatening the victim be paid Trump operatives putting fear into the victim?

    Being a multi billionaire, Trump has a lot to protect.

  32. Anonymous3:18 PM

    What Republicans really want is to see Huma Abedin naked.

    You fucking betcha.

    1. Anonymous3:46 PM

      Yuck. She is gross.

  33. Anonymous3:47 PM

    How long have the Republicans had access or means to access her emails? And why weren't they specific about which ones? I'm sure Comey's a fine fellow to have a beer with, but when it comes to doing his job, his palms are greased. The timing of this is just too convenient, and the polls really haven't changed as much as one would think, so there's a sugar coated nothing sandwich.

  34. Anonymous5:34 PM

    So, since Huma herself did not know there were any emails from Clinton on her ex's computer, does that potentially mean that those emails were planted? Just wondering, since we know some were 'produced' from a Russian ISP...

    1. Anonymous6:17 PM

      No. Where have you been? It has been proven that none of the emails - Clinton, DNC, Podesta - were "produced", faked or altered by anyone let alone the Russians - EEEEEK. How is that known? 1.) DKIM. DomainKeys Identified Mail checks that an email is authentic and unaltered. 2.) Once it was reported that every email checked, including Brazile's emails to the Clinton campaign, was authentic, folks claiming fake! altered! shut up.

    2. Anonymous9:44 PM

      Huma is lying. She will be going to jail. I can't believe, that you actually believe, that she did not know.

      She is lying. She has been caught red handed like all of the other Clinton Inc cohorts have been. This is probably the most serious catch yet. Jail.

  35. Anonymous7:27 PM

    Now CNN has a story about anonymous interviews with 12+ FBI agents about the Clinton email investigation.

    How ironic that the agency that loves prosecuting leakers is leaking like a sieve.

  36. Anonymous7:59 PM

    Since they've had those devices for months, it is not unreasonable to assume that a whole lot of data was planted on the devices.

    Too bad there isn't a nearly lethal virus that only lying rethuglicans can contract.


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