Now it starts to make sense...a series of findings from new @ppppolls cited now on @maddow— Timothy McBride (@mcbridetd) December 9, 2016
In a series of tweets...
2. Stock market rose 11,666 points under Obama, but 39% of Trump voters think Dow is DOWN under @POTUS@ppppolls @maddow pic.twitter.com/Cx684knA7j— Timothy McBride (@mcbridetd) December 9, 2016
3. Unemployment fell in half under Obama, but yet 67% of Trump voters think unemployment went up!@ppppolls @maddow pic.twitter.com/oFrW7fCh5o— Timothy McBride (@mcbridetd) December 9, 2016
4. Incredibly, 40% of Trump voters think Trump won popular vote (though of course Clinton did)@ppppolls @maddow pic.twitter.com/U3Jc3htL3G— Timothy McBride (@mcbridetd) December 9, 2016
5. 50% of all voters approved of Obama, yet only FIVE PERCENT of Trump voters approve of @POTUS @ppppolls @maddow pic.twitter.com/0td3cV6NHH— Timothy McBride (@mcbridetd) December 9, 2016
If you visit the Maddow Blog you will also find these fun facts:6. Most incredibly (maybe) 29% of Trump voters don't think California's vote should be included in popular vote@ppppolls @maddow pic.twitter.com/uBjmsuRTMO— Timothy McBride (@mcbridetd) December 9, 2016
Voter Fraud: Even Trump’s lawyers concede there was no voter fraud in the presidential election, but PPP found that 60% of Trump voters apparently believe “millions” of illegal ballots were cast for Clinton in 2016 – which isn’t even close to resembling reality. (A slight correction here. While the vast majority of people do not think there was voter fraud, there is a growing number of us who suspect election fraud.)
Soros Conspiracy Theory: A whopping 73% of Trump voters believe George Soros is paying anti-Trump protesters – though in reality, George Soros is not paying anti-Trump protesters.
All of this data was based on a PPP poll that Rachel shared last night.
Which of course means it is made up of those facts and figures that Trump supporters find so confusing and mistrust completely.
And that is part of the problem, because as Rachel pointed out in her show last night it is ONLY Trump supporters who misunderstood the facts this completely.
Even third party voters, or those who did not vote at all, had a better grasp of the facts.
But Trump supporters are in almost a completely fact free bubble which makes it virtually impossible for their minds to be changed, and also seems to make them highly suggestible to anything that Trump says, tweets, or has a surrogate say on his behalf.
In other words for them the only truth is the "Trump truth."
And you thought you were frightened of these people before.
Andrea Mitchell - Senator Chris Murphy
ReplyDeleteTRUMP'S PICK FOR LABOR SECRETARY IS PUZDER'S WHOSE INTEREST IS IN AN EMPLOYEE-FRER-RESTAURANT
REPLACING PEOPLE WITH MACHINES
"THEY'RE ALWAYS POLITE, THEY ALWAYS UPSELL, THEY NEVER TAKE VACATION, THEY NEVER SHOP UP LATE, THERE'S NEVER A SLIP-AND-FALL, OR AN AGE, SEX, OR RACE DISCRIMINATION CASE..."
Says he's investing in machines!
Future Labor Secretary Puzder's has 50% of companies repeated violated labor laws, enthusiastic of getting rid of workers and replacing them with robots working, opposes minimum wage, end Healthcare for 20 millions workers and general contempt for Americans working, the exact opposite person you would want for a Labor Secretary.
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
MSNBC also reported last night that Puzder's ex-wife, who had detailed his physical abuse (on more than one occasion), sent out an email saying she'd made it all up. It's since been pretty much confirmed that she did take it back. How very Trump. How similar to when Ivana took back her rape claim. These are men who abuse women and then pay them off to shut up or recant. And these are women who can be bought off and who, in many cases, don't really see that there's any thing all that wrong with getting hit. These are women who do damage to all women when they later say that the truth was a lie. They make me sick.
Deletehttp://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/labor-secretary-pick-andrew-puzder-accused-beating-wife-article-1.2903792
You're Hired:
Deletehttp://www.politicususa.com/2016/12/09/mainstream-media-ignores-majority-vote-trump-hiring-pro-trump-commentators.html
Borderline retarded. Millions of them.
ReplyDeleteIQ is normally distributed: half of the population is expected to have an IQ below 100, with about 16% below the mean minus 1 standard deviation, or 85. The adult population of this country is about 245M, which means there are close to 40M dolts out there -- and Bristol Palin could be their poster child.
Deleteyeah, and i don't think a few million homeschooled dorks in fly-over country should have more voting power than the rest of the country. 1 person 1 vote.
Delete"They're going to try to pass huge cuts to Social Security this year too. Not Bush-style partial phaseout but just big, big cuts. And you're out of luck even if you're a current beneficiary. " Take that sucka$s
Deletehttp://www.motherjones.com/contributor/2016/12/republicans-want-to-cut-social-security
Anon at 10:51 am. A bill was introduced yesterday in the House that will begin the end of Social Security. It was introduced by a Republican from Texas. Next up on the chopping block will be Medicare, then the ACA (which will all but gut Medicaid). All, Americans, except perhaps the very richest among us will be devastated by this mess. The next administration will be nothing but a total disaster for the US, brought to us by Donald Trump, the Koch brothers, some other GOP billionaires. their pawns in Congress, and their friend, Vladimir Putin.
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All you Trumpsters in the rust belt who voted for Trump deserves what you are about to get. The problem is you are taking America down with you.
ReplyDeleteIf you are angry with #NOTMYPRESIDENT because you can't afford to feed your families, can't afford health insurance, can't afford a place to live, can't afford to retire, unhappy with minimum wage, can't afford to send your children to Profit Making Charter Schools and has to settle for low budget private grade schools,
Don't blame Hillary Clinton or the Democrats.
You have nobody to blame but yourselves
You've said all, perfectly.
DeletePlus one.
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And be sure to include a big, fat "TOLD YOU SO!"
DeleteKock buttfucked:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.politicususa.com/2016/12/09/american-safe-trumps-wrecking-crew-cabinet.html
"Trump’s anti-labor corporate CEO, besides wanting the workforce replaced with robotics, wants the remaining human workers to earn slave wages."Trump is not assembling a cabinet; he is creating a wrecking crew to do precisely what the Koch brothers have wet dreams about; making America great again by taking it back to the turn of the 20th Century" the year 1900, was the turn of the 20th century"
DeleteSome of Trump's supporters, Anon at 9:15 am, want the country taken back to the 1850's so that slavery can be re-instiituted.
DeleteBeagle mom
John Adams-- "Facts are stubborn things."
ReplyDeleteRonald Reagan's misquote--"Facts are stupid things."
Guess the Trumpsters are going with the Great God Ronnie, naturally!
Trumpsters if you are angry with #NOTMYPRESIDENT because of @8:50 above and want to get rid of him, here's something to think about, you gave him lifetime Secret Service protection.
ReplyDeleteI can't afford college for my four children and they won't be able to work for a robotic fast food restaurant, what are they to do in Trump's America?
ReplyDeleteMaybe you shouldn't have had 4 children without a plan and without the resources? Just a thought. You know, personal responsibility?
DeleteGFY, 10:38. What an ass.
DeleteReally 11:12, you think it is a good idea to just have four kids without any financial plan for their future? Really?
DeleteSo in other words, it is Trumps fault you had four kids with no financial planning lol?
DeleteAnonymous 11:12 AM wrote: GFY, 10:38. What an ass.
DeleteThank you for your finely-reasoned response. It is an example to us all.
Wise old Ted, please tell us with your worldly and wise ways, is it intelligent and responsible to have child after child without a plan on how to afford raising them?
DeleteThe person named by Trump to be Secretary of Labor does not remotely deserve the position. The Department of Labor is not meant to destroy jobs and lives but to protect them. Even in GOP administrations the top office holders have always had a patina of legitimacy. Not in Trump-land where there will be no good, only bad. Nothing about Trump bodes well for this country.
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"Even third party voters, or those who did not vote at all, had a better grasp of the facts."
ReplyDeleteThis is why me and the sibling were more than somewhat relieved to find mom did not vote for Trump. Turns out she didn't vote at all, but whatever, at least she did not vote for Trump. That actually made a big, huge , wonderful difference as to how our Thanksgiving get-together went.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/12/09/russia-accused-planting-child-pornography-foes-computers.html
ReplyDeleteWe need a co-president to work in America's best interests.
ReplyDeleteCo-president Trump: Executive director of the Apprentice, aquire future golf courses and hotels in foreign countries.
VP Pense: Foreign and Domestic policy
Well, now rumor has it that Barron is going to get a Goldendoodle puppy (already named Patton, after Geo. Patton--eye roll) so that Trump doesn't become the first pres in 150 years to enter the WH without a pet. (Of course the Trump family has never has a single pet--of course not.) So, maybe Barron will be living at the WH after June after all. Whatever, if the Trumps get a dog then there will be so much more for Trump's fans to fawn over and they will not care when they suffer financially. A puppy will take care of that problem.
ReplyDeleteThat means a new job will be credited to Trump for creating a new job for a foreigner who will be hired to be nanny to Patton Trump
DeleteI don't think I would trust that kid with an animal, something evil in those dead eyes.
DeleteHopefully they will have a full time dog care person, at taxpayers expense of course, to care for the puppy.
It's probably a puppyjake therapy dog.
DeleteThey'll have White House staff to take care of the dog's needs. And when they leave the White House, they'll just leave him behind.
DeleteLike summer people.
CHECK-MATE?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.politicususa.com/2016/12/09/president-obama-orders-full-review-russian-hacking-attempt-influence-2016-election.html
http://www.npr.org/2016/12/09/504971174/president-obama-orders-review-of-russian-hacking-during-2016-campaign?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=202809
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DeleteIt takes getting a job at the White House for a Trump child to get a dog?
ReplyDeleteYep. It will be used to humanize that robotic family.
DeleteNope. My money is on a therapy dog to help him cope...if in fact he really ever ends up in that house at all.
DeleteStill counting:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/wisconsin-judge-orders-presidential-vote-recount-to-continue-local-media/
The Deplorables also ignore that Mnuchin, the possible pick to lead Treasury , is in thick as thieves with George Soros. They only know what Trump tells them, and he hasn't bothered to share this with them yet.
ReplyDeleteWho is George Soros?
DeleteAnonymous 10:00 AM wrote: Who is George Soros?
Deletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros
He is a foreign billionaire that has a history of using his money as a puppeteer to create societal problems in other lands. In short, he is an asshole.
DeleteTrump is getting a dog? Whatever happened to the dog that was given to the Palins? It was a expensively trained dog that could have been given to a Wounded Warrior or to a handicap child.
ReplyDeleteTrig may have stepped on it one too many times. RIP.
DeleteOT, but have to vent. I hate hate hate that the DNC and no big-name Dems have lifted a finger to help out the guy running for Senate in Louisiana. So what if the GOP candidate is ahead and by double digits. Just like with Florida's Senate race when no one helped Murphy (Hillary would mention his name when she was there but there was no real action taken to help him out), the Dems are staying away and saving money. This is crap. You have to fight. You have to. And we're talking about two states here that normally can get some Dems elected. The Dem establishment continues to show no fight and no faith. How are we supposed to get fired up later when we simply let things go in situations like these?
ReplyDeleteI agree. The DNC has to give more support to candidates in every state but, right now, in southern states where it remains possible to elect a Democrat.
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For sure. I have since emailed the DNC and also the WH on this. The old Obama "Fired up, ready to go" has to be reignited and starting now. At least there will be January protests, but the problem is with the Dems in positions just sitting on their hands.
DeleteThey opposed Graydon in the primaries, then failed to support the winner against Marco Rubio in the election.
DeleteAnother DNC failed strategy.
Well!, block women march. Ok, so will escort services go up with the orange turdy in office. Women can you stop p grabbers for four years? Or there may be increased aggressions. Effects, there are always effects.
ReplyDeletePepper spray, not diamonds, is a girls best friend.
DeleteYes is this the Alaska State Trooper office? Can you please do a Wellness Check on Sarah Palin? Then again forget it. We will call back after we find out she was so depressed she tried to put a bullet in her brain and missed.
ReplyDeleteUSA Today
President-elect Donald Trump is expected to nominate Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers of Washington as his secretary of Interior, a source close to the transition told USA TODAY Friday.
If anyone in Alaska believed that Trump would pick Sarah Palin, they were obviously nuts.
DeleteAs I've typed here before, this would be the ONLY thing I agree with Trump on - in NOT selecting Sarah Palin!
And, I NEVER thought he'd pick her! He knew she wasn't to be trusted, was too too reactionary and emotional, doesn't work well w/other and most of all - very brain deficient!
Interesting that the Clinton campaign tried to have Mika pulled off the air.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad the political correctness has been set aside and we're calling stupid STUPID.
ReplyDeleteNow let's call a lie a LIE. Then we'll be making progress.
It got pretty cold here in Fairbanks. I ran into the State building to warm up, and caught a glimpse of the welfare lobby. In that lobby looked to be a lot of Trump supporters waiting to see if they will get help. I hope Trump admin. knows that alot of his supporters need the so called Obama care, foodstamps, and whatever else is given out to help them get by. I have a horrible suspicion that when Trump mentioned draining the swamp that was code for getting rid of his supporters. Poor things. They believed all his lies.
ReplyDeleteThere is a guy saying trump paid him 2 million dollars to write fake stories geared towards facebook.
ReplyDeletehttps://mobile.twitter.com/CraigSilverman/status/807315748687400962/photo/1
#NOTMYPRESIDENT is not only The Apprentice executive and involved with all his extracurricular activities, he's also a psychic (see last paragraph)
ReplyDeleteNew York Times:
Donald Trump’s Self-Funding Includes Payments to Family and His Companies
According to documents submitted to the Federal Election Commission, Mr. Trump, whose campaign has just $1.3 million cash on hand, paid at least $1.1 million to his businesses and family members in May for expenses associated with events and travel costs....
“It’s very possible that I could be the first presidential candidate to run and make money on it.”...
So who is paying for his little "victory" tour that's going on right now? I sure hope it's not the American people who are picking up the tab.
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I'm watching trump in LA right now. Arrived more than 2 hours late. He's made several mistakes in speaking and is ad-libbing in a weirder way than usual and is sort of slurring or something at the ends of sentences. Can't tell if he's on something. Maybe he was intoxicated and they had to sober him up.
ReplyDeleteDonald Trump you're FIRED!
Deletedrumpf NEVER NEVER NEVER drinks alcohol!
DeleteNEVER EVER! That is his "control card".
or SO HE THINKS......<$ADI$T VOYEUR
Can you imagine if Hillary Clinton were two hours late for a speech?
DeleteTrump should have been booed off the stage and run out of the arena!
He's deplorable in his actions as well as being extremely self-centered! Only thinks of himself and could care less about 'inconveniencing' his constituents.
Fuck him!
America this is true:
ReplyDeleteBirds of a feather flocks together
Sleep with dogs you wake up with fleas
Pu$$y grabbing Trump who liked walking backstage reviewing the semi-naked and naked underage beauty pageant contestants picks this guy to be the Labor Secretary.
Internet:
"I like beautiful women eating burgers in bikinis," Puzder said. "I think it's very American."
Donald Trump’s Harassment of a Teenage Girl on Twitter Led to Death and Rape Threats
ReplyDelete...Within hours, her phone began to ring, and her email inbox and Facebook account filled with threatening messages. “I didn’t really know what anyone was going to do,” Batchelder, now 19, told the Washington Post. “He was only going to tweet about it and that was it, but I didn’t really know what his supporters were going to do, and that to me was the scariest part.”
She said the abuse has continued, prompting one Trump supporter to send her a Facebook message five days before the election that read, “Wishing I could f—ing punch you in the face. id then proceed to stomp your head on the curb and urinate in your bloodied mouth and i know where you live, so watch your f—ing back punk.”
Batchelder’s case illustrates what happens when Trump, who has more than 17 million Twitter followers, goes after a private citizen online. And far from showing restraint as his following has grown, Trump has continued the pattern.
http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/12/trumps-harassment-of-an-18-year-old-girl-on-twitter-led-to-death-threats.html
Donald Trump supporters express regret over their vote:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-supporters-regret-vote-republicans-alt-right-a7463781.html
Surprise! Obamacare Repeal Includes A Stealth Tax Cut For Top Earners
ReplyDeletehttp://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/surprise-repealing-obamacare-includes-a-big-tax-cut-for-the-rich
Star Wars:
ReplyDelete"the writers had said the Empire in the film "is a white supremacist organisation like the Trump administration and the diverse rebels are going to defeat them".
BBC
Trump fans urge Star Wars boycott over reshoot claim
Supporters of Donald Trump have taken to Twitter urging a boycott of the new Star Wars film, Rogue One.
The campaign began with a series of tweets from activist Jack Posobiec, who claimed the writers changed the film to add scenes linking Mr Trump to racism.
Screenwriter Chris Weitz said that this was "completely fake", though he and another writer have tweeted their opposition to the US president-elect.
#DumpStarWars has been retweeted 120,000 times in the past 24 hours.
Star Wars writers rewrote and reshot Rogue One to add in Anti Trump scenes calling him a racist. Disgusting.
In a Periscope video, Jack Posobiec, who is an activist with Citizens for Trump, claimed the writers had said the Empire in the film "is a white supremacist organisation like the Trump administration and the diverse rebels are going to defeat them".
"They're trying to make the point of using this movie to push the false narrative... that Trump is a racist." he said....
Trump’s Distractions Will Provide Republican Cover to Rip Apart the Safety Net
ReplyDelete...On a daily basis, Trump has proven able to divert media attention away from the plutocratic government he is assembling and on to a variety of shiny objects. His meetings with Al Gore and Leonardo DiCaprio received far more coverage, for instance, than the fact that his designated Environmental Protection Agency director worked hand in glove with polluters as Oklahoma’s attorney general. He has not tweeted about Obamacare or turning Medicare over to private insurers, but he did appoint one of the most fiercely dedicated foes of both programs to run the Department of Health and Human Services.
https://newrepublic.com/article/139245/trumps-distractions-will-provide-republican-cover-rip-apart-safety-net
Six donors that Trump appointed gave almost $12 million with their families to back his campaign and the party
ReplyDeletehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/12/09/the-six-donors-trump-appointed-to-his-administration-gave-almost-12-million-with-their-families-to-his-campaign-and-the-party
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/linda-mcmahon-donated-7-million-to-elect-trump/
And on and on he prattled about the very rich contributing to Hillary Clinton. Every time Trump accused the Clinton campaign of something, it was the Trump campaign doing it.
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Nearly a third of Republicans don’t know that Trump lost the popular vote
ReplyDeletehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/12/08/nearly-a-third-of-republicans-dont-know-that-trump-lost-the-popular-vote
And those imbecilic morons are the ones with an assault rifle in every room.
ReplyDeleteThey say that dog owners looks like their dogs. Trump is speaking in Louisiana right now and his eyes are squinting worse than Melania. Are you sure Donald is an American and not Slovenian? Has he shown his taxes and birth certificates?
ReplyDeleteThey let him get away with every fucking thing! Just enables more of the same.
ReplyDeleteBoeing Will Still Put up $1 Million for Donald Trump's Inauguration Despite His Twitter Attack
http://fortune.com/2016/12/09/donald-trump-boeing-donation/?iid=leftrail
Most fucked up - obvious donation that literally makes me want to puke all over Trump! Another large company feeding right into the hands of Trump! Idiots!
DeleteAre we getting closer to "he could shoot someone on 5th ave and no one would care"?
DeleteVery close. I think one of his followers did this in a pizza place!
DeletePoll: Majority of Americans unhappy with Trump's handling of the transition
ReplyDelete...According to a survey released Thursday by Pew Research, just 41% of Americans approve of the job the president-elect has done making clear his “policies and plans.” That number is significantly lower than past presidents.
President Obama had the highest transition approval going into his presidency in December 2008, at 72%. Former president Bill Clinton had 62% in January 1993 and George W. Bush had 50% in January 2001, according to Pew.
The majority of Americans also aren’t thrilled with his Cabinet selections: Forty percent approve of his picks for Cabinet and high-level posts.
Nearly three-quarters of Americans supported Obama’s picks (71%). Clinton followed with 64% support for his choices, Bush 41 had the backing of 59%, and Bush 43 had 58% support.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/12/08/poll-majority-americans-unhappy-trumps-handling-transition/95149844/
Screw Trump! He's going to nose-dive America into WWIII and civil war.
DeleteHe's the most evil human being on the planet as far as I'm concerned. And, the dyed blond, white woman that works so closely with him - comes in second!
Talk about 'deplorables' - they are, hands down!
It alarms me that 41% approve of his handling of the transition! In this country we are facing the worst possible scenario for our system of government, handed to us by people brainwashed by Fox News, the right wing and by Russia itself. Not one person named by Donald Trump for a cabinet position or for any other major role in the next administration has the least intention of serving the American people and honoring our Constitution. Trump and the GOP (with the help of Vladimir Putin) has endangered the very existence of our country. And 41% approve of him????
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ReplyDeletePAY TO PLAY
Washington Post:
Donald Trump routinely blasts his political foes for "pay-to-play" politics and "crony capitalism and corruption."
But Trump is now rewarding some of his biggest campaign bankrollers with unparalleled access, influence, prestige and power in his presidential administration-in-waiting, according to a Center for Public Integrity analysis of new campaign finance disclosures filed with the Federal Election Commission.
In all, 18 ultra-wealthy Americans — the majority are billionaires whose fortunes are greatly affected by government decisions — contributed at least $1 million to the Republican's presidential campaign and political efforts supporting Trump's bid, the Center for Public Integrity's analysis shows
SOME of the reality-denying, conspiracy-believing whackos have now been placed into Trump's CABINET!
ReplyDeleteGryphon, I am a huge fan of your blog and have been so for years. This is one of the few times where I disagree to an extent with your post.
ReplyDeleteNot all people are disagree with the above statistics are stupid. I'm my case, I don't believe it because I have been unemployed for months on end. I am a Canadian CPA with great experience, references, work ethic, etc. I have only worked two months this year, two months last year and six months in 2014. I have applied to jobs at all levels (same and below) and can't find steady full time permanent work in the Colorado market. Like myself, there are others who are dealing with unemployment, underemployment and just plain old have given up looking. My wife supports me and our son. When people say unemployment is down, it may be statistically true but doesn't resonate with me. I have also started questioning what statistics are published in the year of an election because of political benefit.
I will agree with you on the improvement in the Dow under our great president.
P.S. I also agree that Hillary won the popular vote.
DeleteI wonder if Anon at 8:53 pm. voted for Donald Trump.
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