Monday, January 30, 2017

Trump's Secretary of Homeland Security only learned about the Muslim ban executive order as Trump was actually signing it on television.

Homeland Security Secretary John F. Kelly
Courtesy the New York Times:

As President Trump signed a sweeping executive order on Friday, shutting the borders to refugees and others from seven largely Muslim countries, the secretary of homeland security was on a White House conference call getting his first full briefing on the global shift in policy. 

Gen. John F. Kelly, the secretary of homeland security, had dialed in from a Coast Guard plane as he headed back to Washington from Miami. Along with other top officials, he needed guidance from the White House, which had not asked his department for a legal review of the order. 

Halfway into the briefing, someone on the call looked up at a television in his office. “The president is signing the executive order that we’re discussing,” the official said, stunned.

As we know the executive order was drafted by Stephen Bannon and a small group of White House advisers, without any input from career officials at the Homeland Security Department, the State Department or other agencies.

The reason given by  James Jay Carafano, a vice president of the conservative Heritage Foundation, and also a member of Trump's transition team, is a fear of leaks.

 “Why share it with them?” Mr. Carafano said. 

Well part of the reason you "share it with them" is that they actually know the legalities of something like this, and could  have shut it down or at least given guidance that would have helped to avoid those incidents at the airports.

“The details of it were not thought through,” said Stephen Heifetz, who served in the Justice and Homeland Security Departments, as well as the C.I.A., under the previous three presidents. “It is not surprising there was mass confusion, and I expect the confusion and chaos will continue for some time.” 

Trump's distrust of the intelligence agencies and his reliance on loose cannons like Stephen Bannon will be his downfall.

The only question is will that happen before he irreparably damages this country?

P.S. By the way a number of Trump spokespeople are claiming that this ban is just like the one that President Obama imposed on Iraq for six months.

Problem is, that never happened.

Courtesy of WaPo: 

Former Obama administration official Jon Finer denied that any ban in Iraqi refugee admissions was put in place under Obama. “While the flow of Iraqi refugees slowed significantly during the Obama administration’s review, refugees continued to be admitted to the United States during that time, and there was not a single month in which no Iraqis arrived here,” he wrote in Foreign Policy. “In other words, while there were delays in processing, there was no outright ban.” 

Another former official, Eric P. Schwartz, the assistant secretary of state for population, refugees and migration at the time, also told The Fact Checker that Trump’s statement is false: 

“President Obama never imposed a six-month ban on Iraqi processing. For several months in 2011, there was a lower level of Iraqi resettlement, as the government implemented certain security enhancements. Indeed, as we identified new and valuable opportunities to enhance screening, we did so. Nobody should object to a continual effort to identify legitimate enhancements, but it is disreputable to use that as a pretext to effectively shut down a program that is overwhelmingly safe and has enabled the United States to exercise world leadership. In any event, there was never a point during that period in which Iraqi resettlement was stopped, or banned.”

The Post gave those statements by the Trump spokespeople three Pinocchios. 


  1. Anonymous2:07 PM

    The Dark History of the White House Aides Who Crafted Trump's "Muslim Ban"

    Here's how Stephen Bannon and Stephen Miller have been boosters of Islamophobes and white nationalists.

    The Trump administration has insisted since Sunday that the president's executive order banning travel to the United States from seven predominately Islamic countries "is not a Muslim ban." But as Mother Jones first reported in a series of investigations starting last summer, the two top Trump advisers who reportedly crafted the immigration crackdown—Stephen Bannon and Stephen Miller—have a long history of promoting Islamophobia, courting anti-Muslim extremists, and boosting white nationalists.

    For nearly a year before stepping down as the CEO of Breitbart News to lead the Trump campaign, Bannon hosted a SiriusXM radio show, Breitbart News Daily, where he conducted dozens of interviews with leading anti-Muslim extremists. Steeped in unfounded claims and conspiracy theories, the interviews paint a dark and paranoid picture of America's 3.3 million Muslims and the world's second-largest faith. Bannon often bookended the exchanges with full-throated praise for his guests, describing them as "top experts" and urging his listeners to click on their websites and support them.

    One of Bannon's guests on the show, Trump surrogate Roger Stone, warned of a future America "where hordes of Islamic madmen are raping, killing, pillaging, defecating in public fountains, harassing private citizens, elderly people—that's what's coming."

    Another frequent guest was Pamela Geller, the president of Stop Islamization of America, whom Bannon described as "one of the top world experts on radical Islam and Sharia law and Islamic supremacism." Geller told Bannon that George W. Bush's description of Islam as a "religion of peace" was something "we all deplore," that there had been an "infiltration" of the Obama administration by radical Muslims, and that former Central Intelligence Director John Brennan may have secretly converted to Islam. Bannon never pushed back against any of those unfounded claims.

    In other exchanges on the show, Bannon described the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), a group that defends the rights of Muslims, as "a bunch of spin" and "a bunch of lies." He accused the mainstream media of "basically going along the lines of being Sharia-compliant on blasphemy laws." He warned of "Sharia courts taking over Texas" and said that he opened a Breitbart News bureau in London in order to combat "all these Sharia courts [that] were starting under British law."

    ...As a member of the Duke Conservative Union, Miller worked closely with Richard Spencer, a PhD. student who would later coin the term "alt-right" and become a leading white nationalist. Spencer told me that at Duke, Miller helped him with fundraising and promotion for an on-campus debate on immigration policy that Spencer organized in 2007, featuring influential white nationalist Peter Brimelow. Miller vehemently denied to me that he had any connection to Spencer or his ideas, but another former member of the Duke Conservative Union confirmed to me that Miller and Spencer worked together on the Brimelow event. And at DCU meetings, according to another past member of the group, Miller denounced multiculturalism and expressed concerns that immigrants from non-European countries were not assimilating.

  2. Anonymous2:10 PM

    Anyone with any kind of platform needs to start calling out evil, sinister racist bigot Steve Bannon on a daily basis

    1. Leland2:51 PM

      So why do we need a platform? We can all talk and spreading the word and exposing this jackass to the world is important. We ALL can contribute to that.

  3. Anonymous2:24 PM

    ‘Muslim Ban’ Protest Draws Thousands To Downing Street

  4. Anonymous2:26 PM

    Protesters will march to Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago during his Florida vacation this weekend

    1. Anonymous5:35 PM

      maybe we can wrap Mar-a-lago in one of these!

      This too:

  5. Anonymous2:29 PM

    Trump To Attack LGBT Rights And Protections With New Executive Order

    The White House has drafted an executive order that would be an unprecedented attack on LGBT rights and protections. Sources say the order would allow federal employees to refuse to serve LGBT people based on religious beliefs, sexual orientation and gender identity fireable offenses for federal employees and contractors, and allow discrimination against the LGBT community by those who receive federal funding.…

    1. Anonymous2:48 PM

      Confirmed, @joshrogin . Nuances are being hammered out. Still small chance it may be abandoned, to avoid more bad press. But unlikely.

      Rogue POTUS Staff added,
      Josh Rogin @joshrogin
      I'm told reliably there is a draft Executive order on LGBT issues including adoption. Details and timing unclear.

    2. Anonymous3:51 PM

      Nothing that the Trump administration has done to date has been "nuanced." The anti-LGBT order will be just another sledgehammer against a segment of our society that simply does not deserve it.

  6. Anonymous2:32 PM

    #StopPresidentBannon. He was not elected. Bannon's Blueprint. Read it for yourself.

  7. Anonymous2:36 PM

    Don't Invite Trump For State Visit, Say More Than 1 Million In U.K.
    January 30, 201711:42 AM ET

    More than 1.3 million people have signed an official U.K. petition to prevent President Trump from making a state visit to the U.K. — and the number continues to grow.

    "Donald Trump should be allowed to enter the UK in his capacity as head of US Government," the petition states, "but he should not be invited to make an official State Visit because it would cause embarrassment to Her Majesty the Queen."

    The U.K. Parliament will consider this petition for a debate, because it has surpassed the threshold of 100,000 signatures....

  8. Anonymous2:37 PM

    Springsteen Just Stopped His Concert To Deliver This Amazing Anti-Trump Rant (VIDEO)

  9. Anonymous2:38 PM

    Sen. @marcorubio says staff asked @StateDept for clarification today but were told the agency's been directed not to answer Qs from Congress

    1. Anonymous3:57 PM

      That's interesting. Think GOP Congresscritters are feeling the loss of control yet?

    2. Anonymous7:37 PM

      State Dept has replied this is not true.

  10. Anonymous2:40 PM

    This is soooo fugged up! Anyone thinking this 'administration ' is off to a great start has to have a mandatory I Q exam! How could there be so many *Stupid* people in this country?!?! You know, even where *I* live, in blood-red rural Xtian Ohio, the cracks are starting to show! A recent poll in our rag of a paper showed Drumpf's approval ratings going DOWN-- and I'd never thought that would be possible! More people are daring to write letters against him and for Obamacare- it seems like people are waking up or getting brave. As I've noted before, at different sites, it's a little late now, the horses have bolted from the barn. It's going to take a monumental effort to put things to rights, especially with that self proclaimed agent of chaos, Bannon, placed on the NSC. But it MUST be done, or the Republic is no more.

    1. No lube just ram it3:13 PM

      When the Orange Shitgibbon Administration loses NASCAR and Fox reports it then tRUMP and his deplorables are fucked.

    2. Anonymous4:21 PM

      I can't see this as being the first and definitely not the last time that the right hand is clueless about what the left hand is doing with this hideous administration. It will be a nonstop circus for as long as Trump is in office.

  11. Anonymous2:41 PM


    This is an attempt by Bannon and Breitbart to take First Amendment rights away. #StopPresidentBannon

  12. Anonymous2:41 PM


  13. Anonymous2:44 PM


  14. Anonymous2:51 PM

    Trump admits he wants to be king.

    1. Anonymous5:05 PM

      g “the leaks coming out of the Trump White House cast the president as a clueless child.”

      "A narcissist who cares more about his popularity than his country." the trio insisted on sitting in on the call. And when it was over, their fears were not allayed.#unholytrinity
      "What is even more disturbing is the allegation that Trump is trying to use smoke and mirrors to mask his communications, the same way he cooked the books in his businesses.". We are keeping a full archive of all the tweets from this account, updated hourly, and will post it in its entirety here if it gets taken down. In the meantime consider following RoguePOTUSSTaff’s request to send a clear message to Trump that this is not the Presidency the American People want or will accept." TRUE or NOT, 9 days and counting....

  15. Anonymous3:02 PM

    Everyone needs to be aware of this tactic
    The Shock Teatment is a political and psychological strategy used by many in the past to divert attention from one's real goal. The Donald Administration this weekend delivered one of these Shock Treatments to the nation and to the world. The question to ask, now that the shock has been established, is what is the REAL agenda of Donald's administration from which they are trying to divert our attention? We must continue to be vigilant of the next few days/weeks to see what emerges. BE ALERT!!
    Here is an interesting perspective on the notion of this weekend's "shock event" from Boston College professor of American History, Heather Cox Richardson: she is writing from the position of a moderate (albeit one who has published several books on the history of the Republican party).
    "There is an important non-partisan point to make today.
    What Bannon is doing, most dramatically with last night's ban on immigration from seven predominantly Muslim countries-- is creating what is known as a "shock event." Such an event is unexpected and confusing and throws a society into chaos. People scramble to react to the event, usually along some fault line that those responsible for the event can widen by claiming that they alone know how to restore order. When opponents speak out, the authors of the shock event call them enemies. As society reels and tempers run high, those responsible for the shock event perform a sleight of hand to achieve their real goal, a goal they know to be hugely unpopular, but from which everyone has been distracted as they fight over the initial event. There is no longer concerted opposition to the real goal; opposition divides along the partisan lines established by the shock event.
    Last night's Executive Order has all the hallmarks of a shock event. It was not reviewed by any governmental agencies or lawyers before it was released, and counterterrorism experts insist they did not ask for it. People charged with enforcing it got no instructions about how to do so. Courts immediately have declared parts of it unconstitutional, but border police in some airports are refusing to stop enforcing it.
    It is designed explicitly to divide people who might otherwise come together so they cannot stand against something its authors think they won't like. I don't know what Bannon is up to-- although I have some guesses-- but because I know Bannon's ideas well, I am positive that there is not a single person whom I consider a friend on either side of the aisle-- and my friends range pretty widely-- who will benefit from whatever it is. If the shock event strategy works, though, many of you will blame each other, rather than Bannon, for the fallout. And the country will have been tricked into accepting their real goal.
    But because shock events destabilize a society, they can also be used positively. We do not have to respond along old fault lines. We could just as easily reorganize into a different pattern that threatens the people who sparked the event. A successful shock event depends on speed and chaos because it requires knee-jerk reactions so that people divide along established lines. This, for example, is how Confederate leaders railroaded the initial southern states out of the Union. If people realize they are being played, though, they can reach across old lines and reorganize to challenge the leaders who are pulling the strings.

  16. Anonymous3:03 PM

    Trump executive order allowing anti-LGBTQ discrimination is coming soon

    ...From what we’ve heard, the executive order could be far-reaching, and could include: making taxpayer funds available for discrimination against LGBTQ people in social services; allow federally funded adoption agencies to discriminate against LGBTQ parents; eliminate non-discrimination protections in order to make it possible to fire federal employers and contractors based on their sexual orientation or gender identity; and allow federal employees to refuse to serve people based on the belief that marriage should be between a man and a woman, and that gender is an immutable characteristic set at birth, which would impact a broad range of federal benefits.

    The order is expected to come in the packaging of so-called “religious freedom,” which argues that someone’s religious beliefs should be enough to prevent them from having to provide goods and services to members of the LGBTQ community if doing so would conflict with said beliefs.

  17. Anonymous3:05 PM

    The Disney Company Needs To Get Out of Trump’s Bed

    This afternoon I wrote a series of tweets about the uncomfortable and potentially brand-damaging relationship that Disney CEO Bob Iger (pictured above, left) is pursuing with U.S. president Donald Trump, a relationship that puts financial aims above the welfare of Disney employees and the carefully polished cultural brand of the Walt Disney Company.

    It turned out that as I was writing the tweets, Trump was hosting a screening of Disney/Pixar’s Finding Dory in the White House:

  18. The Seventies return like a bad case of venereal disease3:10 PM

    Tuesday Night Borking* in 3...2...1...

    The acting attorney general has ordered the Justice Department not to defend President Trump's immigration order


    "However, on the following day (a Saturday) Nixon ordered Attorney General Richardson to fire Cox. Richardson refused, and resigned in protest. Nixon then ordered Deputy Attorney General William Ruckelshaus to fire Cox. He also refused and resigned.[4][5]

    Nixon then ordered the Solicitor General, Robert Bork (as acting head of the Justice Department), to fire Cox. Both Richardson and Ruckelshaus had given personal assurances to Congressional oversight committees that they would not interfere, but Bork had not. Although Bork would later claim that he believed Nixon's order to be valid and appropriate, he still considered resigning to avoid being "perceived as a man who did the President's bidding to save my job."[6] Nevertheless, having been brought to the White House by limousine and sworn in as Acting Attorney General, Bork wrote the letter firing Cox.[7] "

    1. Anonymous3:49 PM

      A few of the Republicans in the Nixon administration understood and believed in the Constitution. Many were almost as ignorant of what it means then as they all are today.

  19. Anonymous3:10 PM


  20. Anonymous3:13 PM

    CEO of Russia's state oil company offered Trump adviser, allies a cut of huge deal if sanctions were lifted

    A dossier with unverified claims about President Donald Trump's ties to Russia contained allegations that Igor Sechin, the CEO of Russia's state oil company, offered former Trump ally Carter Page and his associates the brokerage of a 19% stake in the company in exchange for the lifting of US sanctions on Russia.

    The dossier says the offer was made in July, when Page was in Moscow giving a speech at the Higher Economic School. The claim was sourced to "a trusted compatriot and close associate" of Sechin, according to the dossier's author, former British spy Christopher Steele.

    "Sechin's associate said that the Rosneft president was so keen to lift personal and corporate western sanctions imposed on the company, that he offered Page and his associates the brokerage of up to a 19 per cent (privatised) stake in Rosneft," the dossier said. "In return, Page had expressed interest and confirmed that were Trump elected US president, then sanctions on Russia would be lifted."

    Four months before the intelligence community briefed Trump, then-President Barack Obama, then-Vice President Joe Biden, and the nation's top lawmakers on the dossier's claims — most of which have not been independently verified but are being investigated by US intelligence agencies — a US intelligence source told Yahoo's Michael Isikoff that Sechin met with Page during Page's three-day trip to Moscow. Sechin, the source told Yahoo, raised the issue of the US lifting sanctions on Russia under Trump.

    Page was an early foreign-policy adviser to the Trump campaign. He took a "leave of absence" in September after news broke of his July trip to Moscow, and the campaign later denied that he had ever worked with it.

  21. Anonymous3:15 PM

    President Trump’s chaotic Muslim ban wasn’t even discussed with his secretary of homeland security, but Rudy Giuliani knew about it

    Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani bragged to Fox News on Saturday that President Donald Trump asked him for advice on making a “Muslim ban” legal.

    “I’ll tell you the whole history of it: When he first announced it, he said ‘Muslim ban,'” Giuliani told Fox News. “He called me up, he said, ‘Put a commission together, show me the right way to do it legally.’”

    ...Despite Trump’s willingness to confide in Giuliani and vent on Twitter, one person who was not apprised of his planned Muslim ban was Secretary of Homeland Security John Kelly, who was in the middle of a conference call discussing Trump’s executive order on Muslim immigration while the president was signing it, according to a report by The New York Times on Sunday. Kelly was later forced to issue a statement declaring that lawful permanent residents would be granted a waiver to enter this country in order to clarify the minutiae of a policy about which he was in the process of being informed at the moment it was implemented.

    ...Even as Jihadis celebrate Trump’s Muslim ban as proof that America is indeed at war against Islam, and innocent Muslims’ lives are destroyed by the ban, the Trump administration is thinking of taking things even further. There are now rumors that they’re talking about requiring all foreign visitors to hand over their cell phone numbers and list of websites and social media sites they visit, according to a report on Sunday by CNN.

  22. Anonymous3:19 PM

    Why solicit the Director of Homeland Security's opinion on a matter directly related to homeland security?

    Gee, I can't think of a reason. /sarc

  23. Anonymous3:21 PM

    Cheetolini needs to be eliminated. Along with his puppeteers Putin and Bannon.

  24. Anonymous3:26 PM

    Statisticians fear Trump White House will manipulate figures to fit narrative

    Experts, including former chief statistician of the US and outgoing head of Bureau of Labor Statistics, see threats to system of public, accurate data

    US statisticians are concerned that Donald Trump’s administration might suppress or manipulate public statistics that don’t fit his narrative of the truth, the Guardian has learned. In a series of interviews, individuals who have recently left high-level positions at federal statistical agencies expressed worry that the administration may stop collecting and publishing data on subjects such as abortion, racial inequality and poverty.

    “We should all be starting from the same numbers. I think that’s a fear that many of us have at this point – it’s that picking and choosing your numbers to suit your politics is not the way that we ought to be doing it,” said Katherine Wallman, chief statistician of the United States from 1992 to 3 January this year.

    Wallman, like other statisticians the Guardian spoke to, believes that a number system which consists of accurate, publicly available government data is currently under threat.

    In a press conference on Monday, the White House spokesman, Sean Spicer, told journalists: “The president, he’s not focused on statistics as much as he is on whether or not the American people are doing better as a whole.” But without statistics, measuring how “the American people are doing” is simply a matter of opinion.

  25. Anonymous3:29 PM

    Trump Advisor Stephen Miller, The Architect Of The Muslim Ban, Has Ties To White Supremacists And Neo-Nazis

    Trump senior policy advisor Stephen Miller recently gained attention for confirming the White House’s consideration to require social media and phone contact information from foreign visitors. Of course, that report paled in comparison to the weekend controversy over Donald Trump’s immigration ban, which blocked refugees from seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the country. Now, Miller (a relatively young whippersnapper at age 31) is receiving credit for being the architect of what is — despite the Trump’s administration claims — a Muslim ban.

    Mother Jones has dug into Miller’s past and come up with significant ties to white supremacists and neo-Nazis. He’s apparently pretty tight with notorious white nationalist Richard Spencer, who called Miller “a highly competent and tough individual” that “will do a great job” for Trump. Miller and Spencer attended Duke University together, where Miller wrote several college newspaper columns that denied the existence of systemic racism and railed against multiculturalism (or as he called it, “segregation”).

  26. Anonymous3:32 PM

    Ex-Trump executive: I knew he was ill for last 35 years

  27. Anonymous3:36 PM

    Trump’s refugee ban could get much, much worse. That’s why it must be stopped — now.

  28. Anonymous3:40 PM

    Bannon is cutting anyone with actual expertise out of the policy-making process on national security

  29. Anonymous3:41 PM

    U.S. intelligence official says Bannon is "running a cabal" and bypassing the NSC on key decisions.

    1. Anonymous4:27 PM

      "A cabal is a group of people united in some close design together, usually to promote their private views or interests in an ideology, state, or other community, often by intrigue, usually unbeknown to persons outside their group."
      "A cabal is a secret plot, or a small group of people who create such a plot. Some conspiracy theories are based on the idea that governments worldwide are in the hands of a powerful cabal. Cabal comes from the word cabbala (also spelled kabbala), which refers to a JEWish tradition of interpreting texts."

  30. Anonymous3:46 PM

    The stunning disregard for the Constitution by the inmates at the White House and the GOP inmates in Congress is absolutely appalling. I suspect that lots of top military brass types are also reeling at the bizarre behavior of the Trump administration.

  31. Anonymous4:04 PM

    Melania Trump on Donald: 'He Is a Great Leader—the Best Leader, an Amazing Negotiator'.

    Melania did Donald tell you he negotiated a $600 million dollar cost reduction? You sure are gullible.

    LA Times:
    Trump touts $600 million in F-35 savings, an amount similar to a cut that was already planned

    President Donald Trump touted a $600-million cost reduction for the F-35 fighter jet program in remarks Monday. But that amount appears to be similar to a previously planned price slash by the Department of Defense. (OOPS Trump didn't mention that part)

    Trump took credit for the reduction, telling reporters that the cut applies to 90 planes

    “I was able to get $600 million approximately off those planes,” he said. “I think that was a great achievement. So I appreciate Lockheed Martin for being so responsive.”...

    1. Anonymous4:26 PM

      He's a great leader all right, Melania dahlink.
      You're only allowed to walk behind.

  32. Anonymous4:30 PM


  33. Anonymous4:31 PM

    Business Insider:
    Memos: CEO of Russia's state oil company offered Trump adviser, allies a cut of huge deal if sanctions were lifted


    1. Anonymous4:40 PM

      Lift sanctions for personal gain? President Trump wouldn't do that. Would he?

  34. Anonymous4:44 PM

    "Acting U.S. attorney general directs Justice Dept. NOT to defend Trump travel ban"

  35. Anonymous5:55 PM

    Where is the special forces to tske out bannon? He is a new kind of terrorist.

    1. Anonymous5:51 AM

      From his appearance, just take away his Jim Beam and take-out junk food and make him shave. That ought to kill him.

  36. Anonymous7:34 PM

    What a pathetic, lame excuse, “BAD dudes are out there”.

    Still doesn’t explain why they couldn’t let the GOOD dudes in on it, the people in the government enforcement agencies, or are they also BAD dudes!!!
    Confusion over Trump's travel ban deepens

    ......... The roll out of Trump's order “was as chaotic on the inside as it looked on the outside," one career official at the Department of Homeland Security told POLITICO, adding that “nobody knew anything” before the White House announced the policy Friday night.

    The official blamed much of the confusion on the order's vague and imprecise language. “They just don’t seem to even know how to write a government policy,” said the official, adding that “even 12 hours worth of legal review” would have cleared up many of the problems.

    .... The Trump administration acknowledged the hurried timeline but said it was a strategic decision. “If the ban were announced with a one week notice, the ‘bad’ would rush into our country during that week,” Trump tweeted Monday. “A lot of bad ‘dudes’ out there!”


Don't feed the trolls!
It just goes directly to their thighs.