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| Hi my name is Greg Gianforte and I believe in fairy tales. |
In a 2015 talk at the Montana Bible College, Gianforte said the idea of retirement doesn’t exactly match his religious beliefs.
“There’s nothing in the Bible that talks about retirement. And yet it’s been an accepted concept in our culture today,” he said at the time, according to a report in HuffPost. “Nowhere does it say, ‘Well, he was a good and faithful servant, so he went to the beach.’ It doesn’t say that anywhere.”
“How old was Noah when he built the ark? 600,” he said. “He wasn’t like, cashing Social Security checks, he wasn’t hanging out, he was working. So, I think we have an obligation to work. The role we have in work may change over time, but the concept of retirement is not biblical.”
Oh dear god that I don't believe in, what fresh hell, which I also don't believe in, has Montana subjected itself to?
Noah is a character in a children's tale of morality, NOT an actual person whose life should be taken literally!
I swear the next person who tries to convince me that religion does not destroy rational thinking, I am going to body slam.
My husband is ready to cut all the Montana relatives out of his life. I urged restraint.
ReplyDeleteYes restraint - until you find out who they voted for. And no visiting until then.
DeleteWe haven't been to fundie Ohio since the election. Although as this clusters*** implodes, I would like to be there when they see Fox News shuttered, and Trump and Jared and Princess and Pence in cuffs.
DeleteMcTurtle and Lyin' Ryan also, too!!
DeleteThere's on big hole in his theory. We have thousands of college grads every spring. If none of the engineers, teachers, profs, tech guys, etc ever retire, just where will all those educated young people find jobs? And if he thinks people cashing the checks they earned for four decades of work is not Biblical, wait until he sees the hordes of unemployed 25 year olds who need to eat and live. with no employment to be had.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, I noticed that Trump's big infrastructure plan is DOA. Hillary would have had that as JOB ONE, and we'd be fixing all the stuff that is falling apart, AND adding revenue because of the new taxpayers.
Way to go, Montana. You sure can pick 'em.
Besides, no one knows if Noah really lived or how old he lived to be. I doubt very much that he built an ark that included two of every species of creature as well as members of his family. One of the reasons the founding fathers insisted on separation of church and state was to keep such fictions (as Noah building the ark at any advanced age) from interfering with good governance. Someone needs to read the Constitution to this Mafia-type from Montana and that person better explain it to him too. In simple words.
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But Beaglemom, they don't believe in the Constitution. Everything they need is in the Bible. Oh, and in Trump's case, "Mein Kampf."
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6:14 AM - they don't even follow the Bible. Just copy down a few verses for reference to appease the ignorant and they're good to go.
Delete"Way to go, Montana. You sure can pick 'em."
DeleteGianforte has to really work now to get seated in Congress and once his ass is in that chair; he needs to campaign for 2018!
Looks like the rookie will have to "slug" it out,because Montana came close enough for government work this past week to turn blue. By that time all the Russian connections et al will be out and the door will hit him in the ass.
First of all, hundreds of years ago, life expectancy was much shorter so they died before they had a chance to retire. I suppose he'd like to go back to the days when the most advanced medical care for the peasants consisted of applying leeches and hoping for the best.
ReplyDeleteIn addition, he's a computer geek who has sold 2 companies for billions of dollars and is living off the profits so he has no right to talk about people not retiring. I'd like to see him try and work in a job like construction, commercial fishing, garbage collection, roadwork, lumberjacking, or mining until he's 85.
Of course, the bible never mentions anything about computer software, so perhaps he should resign his new Congressional seat, give away all of his money and become a shepherd.
(And I'm pretty confident I see some mixed fabrics in that photo, and that is a big no-no according to his favorite book!)
Exactly, and usury - laoing money for interest which is what he does with his $$$ is specifiically forbidden in his buybullshit. FUnny how these fundergelicals always ignore that.
DeleteSo, he IS retiring, since being a politician in DC means NOT DOING ANYTHING if you are an (R) Going along with his mythical thinking, Noah had no Social Security, Medicare or any safety net so he HAD to keep working. Even with those "benefits" many seniors struggle to survive. He will fit in nicely with the other ignorant gop in DC.
DeleteGianforte is a rich idiot and a religious hypocrite. If he had spent thirty years working in a factory and had arthritis and foot problems his crazy violent ass would want to go to the beach to retire too. Instead he is worth a few hundred million and thinks going into his home office is hard work.
ReplyDeleteBut he's going to enjoy all those perks that members of Congress get!
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Why DUH is trying to get his foot in the door, Beaglemom. All that $$ and perks with aides to do any "work" for him.
DeleteOT?"“While we can expect to see the continued spread of the anti-DAPL diaspora … aggressive intelligence preparation of the battlefield and active coordination between intelligence and security elements are now a proven method of defeating pipeline insurgencies,” the TigerSwan reports revealed."
ReplyDeletehttps://theintercept.com/2017/05/27/leaked-documents-reveal-security-firms-counterterrorism-tactics-at-standing-rock-to-defeat-pipeline-insurgencies/
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/revealed-counterterrorism-contractor-compared-standing-rock-protesters-to-jihadists-and-infiltrated-camps/
That pipeline is leaking already. They've admitted to 3 detected leaks. That's just the ones they've ADMITTED to.
Delete'Religion', specifically Dominionism is destroying our country.
ReplyDeleteI used to feel sorry for those whose whole life focus was fairy tales. Now I realize that a majority of them are pushing for the US to become a theocracy - something they readily admit.
Thankfully, with the R's version of healthcare, I won't live long enuff to see that happen
Religion has always been the main ingredient in the recipe for the dumbing-down of a society.
DeleteWell, we already knew this man was an idiot.
ReplyDeleteGryphen makes a mistake in this post though. Religion does not destroy critical thinking. His sweeping generality itself shows a lack of logic. Obviously there are many very bright and highly educated people who understand and embrace religion.
Angela Merkel is profoundly religious. She has a doctorate in one of the hard sciences. Consider Hillary Clinton, Elizabeth Warren, the Obamas, Joe Biden, Melinda Gates, Mayim Bialik, Dr. John Polkinghorne, Dr. Martin Nowak (Harvard professor of evolutionary biology), et al. All deeply religious, and all of superior intelligence and education.
Gryphen doesn't actually say much of substance about either belief or nonbelief. He caricatures the former. He declares that the latter worldview is correct. But he states his conclusion without any compelling supporting argument, as if his opinion is self-ratifying and impervious to criticism. This is a lot like what Gianforte is doing when he talks about the Bible from his unschooled, noncritical fundamentalist perspective.
People who are afraid of dying embrace religion. Regardless of their intelligence it is a symptom of a weak mind and an even weaker constitution.
DeleteGryphen is not wrong at all; religious beliefs say a lot about a person and none of it is good. Grow a spine folks and stop relying on fairy tales to take away the fear of no longer taking breath, having a heart beat and flat line brain waves.
When you die you are exactly where you were before you were born. Being gone isn't any different than before you were here.
All of the OCD ritualistic behavior and tithing to an imaginary god isn't going to change that one bit. Live in the moment and forget all this god crap, it makes you look stupid and you end up supporting some of the worst people on the planet that do nothing but harm.
Anonymous 2:57, I can see you haven't spent much time studying logic, sociology, philosophy, religion, or for that matter, behavior disorders. Instead, you think you can read people's minds and somehow analyze their behavior that way.
DeleteIn your third paragraph, you breezily dismiss one of the most significant questions that has puzzled great minds for centuries. Did you read that in a fortune cookie? Or consult a crystal ball? Tell us how you know what happens when we die.
The answer is that you don't know. You're stating your beliefs as facts, just as some religious people do.
Your underlying problem is that your mind is closed to existential thinking. Otherwise you could advance well-founded arguments, instead of unsupported assumptions. Unless you're very young, there's no excuse for such sophomoric thinking.
Sounds like @2:57 scared @4:26 a little bit there, heh heh.
DeletePerhaps go back to church, @4:26. I'll bet they're impressed there with your very intensive study of "logic, sociology, philosophy,...".
I'm not. You do not even know the meaning of "existential thinking" and merely wish to slam @2:57 for daring to define whatever they think about an 'afterlife', which apparently contradicts yours.
NOBODY knows what happens after death, babe. No one.
It's your right to say what you think will happen to you then, as it is with @2:57. And THAT, @4:26, IS a tenet of existential thinking. Individual existence, freedom and choice. I suggest you look up existentialism, and from a non-religious source. In fact, I suggest you put down your buybull and read ANYTHING other.
That last paragraph of yours, did you intend it to sound as insulting and bitchy as it reads?
12:42, existential thinking is defined as engaging deeply with transcendental questions such as the meaning of life.
ReplyDeleteYou're confusing it with existential philosophy. Although there are some intersections between the two, they are not the same.
There's a scale psychologists use to gauge existential thinking. It has 11 questions designed to measure such topics as a person's curiosity about the "big questions" of life; openness to experience; spiritual intelligence; and intrinsic religiosity.
You would have a low score. And you're still making assumptions without evidence, jumping to the unwarranted conclusion that I'm religious.
So far you're batting zero. Try to up your game if you want me to keep playing.