Tuesday, July 11, 2017

Donald Trump Jr. releases emails leading up to meeting with Russian attorney, because apparently there was not yet enough evidence of collusion. Update!

Courtesy of Reuters:

Presidential candidate Donald Trump's eldest son eagerly agreed last year to meet a woman he was told was a Russian government lawyer who might have information incriminating Democratic rival Hillary Clinton as part of Russian government support for his father, according to an email chain released on Tuesday. 

The email chain was between Donald Trump Jr., who posted it on Twitter, and Rob Goldstone, a publicist who helped to arrange the June 9, 2016 meeting with Natalia Veselnitskaya, who says she is a private lawyer and denies having Kremlin ties. 

The disclosures in the email chain could provide ammunition for U.S. investigators probing whether there was collusion between the Kremlin and Trump’s Republican presidential campaign following a U.S. intelligence conclusion that Moscow sought to hurt Clinton and help Trump in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. 

"The Crown prosecutor of Russia ... offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father," said the June 3, 2016, email to Trump Jr. from publicist Rob Goldstone. 

"This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump," according to the email posted by Trump Jr. on Twitter. 

"If it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer," Trump Jr. partly replied in the exchange, which he said represented the entire chain of his emails about the meeting.

On the top subject line of this first email says quite clearly, "Russia-Clinton-private and confidential."

That alone would have given just about anybody with half a brain pause. But not Junior!

"If it's what you say I love it!"

And by the time he got to the part about the "Crown prosecutor of Russia...to provide Trump campaign with information that would incriminate Hillary," followed quickly by, "This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump -- helped along by Aras and Emin," he should have pushed himself away from the keyboard and called the Trump IT guys to scrub his computer clean of any mention of the emails and have this Goldstone dude removed from his list of addresses.

The fact that he didn't backs up that lawyer's assertion that: 

“It is quite possible that maybe they were longing for such an information. They wanted it so badly that they could only hear the thought that they wanted.”

In other words what are illegal and unethical behaviors if you can possibly get your hands on dirt to use against your enemies?

Okay agreeing to meet with a Russian agent, with the promise of receiving Russian government attained information on your father's political opponent, during a presidential campaign.

Is there any way that this is NOT considered collusion?

Update: Here was a statement released by Donald Trump Jr. after he released these emails:  

To everyone, in order to be totally transparent, I am releasing the entire email chain of my emails with Rob Goldstone about the meeting on June 9, 2016. The first email on June 3, 2016 was from Rob, who was relating a request from Emin, a person I knew from the 2013 Ms. Universe Pageant near Moscow. Emin and his father have a very highly respected company in Moscow. The information they suggested they had about Hillary Clinton I thought was Political Opposition Research. I first wanted to just have a phone call but when that didn't work out, they said the woman would be in New York and asked if I would meet. I decided to take the meeting. The woman, as she has said publicly, was not a government official. And, as we have said, she had no information to provide and wanted to talk about adoption policy and the Magnitsky Act. To put this in context, this occurred before the current Russian fever was in vogue. As Rob Goldstone said just today in the press, the entire meeting was “the most inane nonsense l ever heard. And I was actually agitated by it.”

As crazy as it sounds I really think that Junior thinks this is helping him.

By the way today Sarah Sanders-Huckabee answered questions, off camera of course, and to questions about this meeting and these emails she said they needed to contact Junior's attorney.

I think they might finally have started to realize what a huge deal this is turning out to be.


  1. I just heard that the New York Times was about to release these emails so actually Junior was forced into a corner.

    He had no choice but to try and get ahead of the story.

    Fucking New York Times deserves Pulitzer for all of this.

    1. "He had no choice but to try and get ahead of the story."
      Or, "He had no choice but to try and get out on the tracks ahead of the train."

      It's one thing to get ahead of the story, especially if there is a perfectly innocent, plausible, legal interpretation to be put on it.

      But just grabbing a flaming bag of poo before someone else does still leaves you holding a flaming bag of poo.

    2. Anonymous12:11 PM

      Seems to be a fetish with them. Being forced and all.

    3. abbafan7:25 PM

      Totally agree Gryphen; however, the question begs to be asked. If the NYT published the trump e-mails, but sonny-boy gets ahead of them by releasing them himself, how did they obtain them (aka who leaked the e-mails to the NYT)??

      Don't get me wrong; loving the karma here. The old man threw sonny-boy under the bus; sonny-boy knows this, but will turn on him to save his ass! Old trump will sacrifice his kid to protect Ivanka's pet!

      Remember, there is NO honour amongst these fuckin' thieves!!

  2. Anonymous11:21 AM

    This trump Klan is showing to be every bit treacherous!
    They are not only extremely ignorant and arrogant,and dangerous. They are in fact all traitors to our Country.
    We need to quit forgiving and excusing their evil behaviors. Our lives are at stake regardless of political affiliation.
    Thumps administration and most family members belong in prison.

  3. Anonymous11:24 AM

    So when are we gonna kick the whole lot of these cheating lying thieves out? These assholes are doing immeasurable damage to the country.And not a peep out of the republicans.

    1. Anonymous12:03 PM

      My complaint exactly. I guess as the "people" we put the pressure on these asshats. The only way.

    2. Anonymous12:11 PM

      Trump needs to go as do the majority of the Republicans in the U.S.Congress when (and if) they come up for reelection. Especially Ryan and no chin McConnell! Total lying jerks!!!

  4. "Emin and his father have a very highly respected company in Moscow."
    So what, you dim-witted greedy putz. Foreign is foreign.

    1. Anonymous12:22 PM

      Azerbaijani pop star joke, Emin Agalarov, son of Aras Agalarov, are happy with pal Donald Trump and his family. The Miss Universe show, where Trump forged a bond between the Agalarovs and Trumps. Trump’s relationship with the Agalarovs led to the successful show and has been a key component of Trump’s association with Russia. Perhaps the Azerbaijan Oligarchs are the nearest and dearest oligarchs to the Trump family. The Agalarovs are definently in the top 5.

      How Did an Alleged Russian Mobster End Up on Trump’s Red Carpet? And here’s a coincidence: The guy was indicted for being part of a global gambling ring run out of Trump Tower.


      How a Music Publicist Connected Trump’s Inner Circle to a Russian Lawyer Peddling Clinton Dirt... Rob Goldstone had a good in: he had set up the mogul’s most successful venture in Russia.

      Family affairs
      The President helped build a hotel in Azerbaijan that appears to be a corrupt operation engineered by oligarchs tied to Iran’s Revolutionary Guard.


      Ivanka Trump visited the Baku construction site and posted photos and videos of her trip to Instagram.


  5. Anonymous12:05 PM

    There is a group in Russia called Pussy Riot and they stand up against Putin regardless of their personal safety. I admire them, and fear for them.
    That mean eyed lil tyrant in Russia is at the bottom of all this and must go. He's behind Assad. We know that. He's behind killing his critics, we know that.
    I pull for those that want him out.
    Right now he has infiltrated the dumbest party in our country, and we either suffer the consequence or remove the party from power.

  6. Anonymous12:09 PM

    This man is a bigger idiot than even his father. My God. No wonder Donnie punched him in his dorm when he wore a Yankees jersey instead of a suit for a baseball game.

  7. Anonymous12:12 PM

    Rawstory story comments, atyorneys to rep. These fools. You don't think the lawyers want to get at the billions too? Make themselves rich.

  8. Anonymous12:22 PM

    This is what happens when you put a know-nothing, ask-nothing, ego-maniac dunce in a position previously held by people with experience in the government -- how it is run, what the rules are, what will be OK and what will get you in real trouble.

    His inexperience was bad, but when his attitude of being smarter than anyone else in the room is added to that lack of experience there could not be any outcome other than disaster. Just hope the GOP is paying attention and never again puts someone so out of his element in this role.

    And, most of all, I hope the voters will be smarter next time.

    1. Anonymous1:43 PM

      "I hope the voters will be smarter next time."

      Fat chance

    2. As if we're getting a "next time".

  9. Anonymous12:24 PM

    The saddest thing I observe is when you read the New York Time and Washington Post and the comments regarding the Trumps and Putin, the "Americans" that are backing Trump totally go into denial mode.
    Everyone of them say this latest thing is nothing. They call it a nothing burger.
    I am wondering, are these people behind the comments real Americans, or Russia still at work with their Trolls? Seems like a naive questions but it just seems that these "Americans" are letting Trump and Co. go places they would not have allowed Hillary and the Democrats. Or are the comments really from American people, and they are just practicing that typical old look the other way when their party does wrong.
    No wonder Putin loves them.

    1. Anonymous1:19 PM

      Nope it is not your imagination. The trolls and bots are still working. It has slowed down some but they are still working hard to spin it and sway it. And sadly some are just plain ignorant americans or plain hateful souls that want the world in total chaos and division. The rapture driven insane are pushing nonsense.

    2. Anonymous4:20 PM

      Sometimes RT is on the idiot tube at work, and about a week ago they called it a nothing burger.

    3. Anonymous4:21 AM

      I wish there was a fucking rapture and soon. Get these idiots out of here.

  10. Anonymous12:26 PM

    Congressional Democrats tear into Trump Jr.’s “damning” emails


  11. Anonymous12:29 PM

    Hahaha! "High quality person" ...haha fatty orange turd could not even say it face to face, someone read it. Haha
    Just like melatitsa first porno woman. High quality, rump knows high quality. Hahaha
    Idk that statement is so ridiculous, so funny!

  12. Anonymous12:36 PM

    I hope this makes the congressional intelligence committee take this stuff a little more seriously.

    With all of the rich people involved on each side I doubt anyone will be charged with anything but I do hope that it is revealed that a lot of oligarchs are trying to influence America, even POTUS and his family.

    Nothing will change, but at least we'll know that our Democracy and Republic truly were sold to the highest bidder.

    1. Anonymous3:07 PM

      I still say congressional intelligence is an oxymoron.

  13. Anonymous12:38 PM

    In case anyone is interested, the Washington Post has an article on Donnie Junior's attorney - he has a reputation as a Mafia defense attorney!


  14. Anonymous12:53 PM

    We must remember that almost all of the Drumpf administration are short on gray matter and ethics. Cleaning them all out will be a necessity if we are to reclaim our country.

    Did Drumpf and Jared get those millions in loans and investment from Qatar they have been working on for a couple years and is that why the Drumpf admin is now supporting Qatar against Saudi and the other countries in the area?

    The people in this administration operate like folks who have shit their pants and walk around acting like they can neither smell it or feel the squish as their legs move. Ugh!

    1. Anonymous1:32 PM

      Lol, brilliant analogy. Their supporters are the same way too.

  15. Anonymous1:13 PM

    "The Devil's Footprint" Ipswich, MA., 1740. George Whitefield preached so hard he scared the Devil so bad that he left a footprint on the mountain running away.

  16. Anonymous1:14 PM

    Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit Are we really going to take Junior's word on that meeting, are we really going to believe a confirmed Russian Government Attorney about what was discussed?? I don't think so, not the son of a habitual liar and an operative of Putin's.

  17. Anonymous1:35 PM

    "Before the current Russian fever was in vogue?" WTF does he think this is, a fashion show?

    1. Anonymous6:41 PM

      That also set off the bells in my head. Such a cavalier, arrogant attitude.

    2. Anonymous8:13 PM


  18. Anonymous1:41 PM

    (The following message is to be read ONLY by loyal Drumpf supporters. Seriously, Gryphen, not even you.)

    Meh... sounds like something Barack HUSSEIN Obama probably cooked up, according to absolutely no one.

    But, c'mon, Drumpfsters, admit it: you're at least open to the possibility that the entire Russian collusion and election meddling fiasco is Obama's fault. Right? C'mon... Don't be assholes. Admit it. It's Obama's fault. Right?

    There... That wasn't so hard, was it?

    You're still assholes, tho.

  19. Anonymous1:48 PM

    But to 30% of Americans which includes the likes of Sarah Palin, Obama is the weak, foreign, inept leader who made America weak , a traitor. Sad.

    1. Anonymous3:03 PM

      Screw Sarah Palin. She's all excited to head up her little Mama Grizzly march in September, of which she's not one, likewise politician and x-tian.

  20. Anonymous2:15 PM

    Fascinating that you have a direct line of contact handy for DTJ when POTUS constantly denies anyone is connected to you or your org.


    Don Jr. meeting scandal order of events.


    Don Jr. Meeting Scandal Sequential Order of Events

    As this story continues to unfold events have transpired quickly, at an almost dizzying speed. Context is sometimes hidden in the details of when and why. Many are enthralled by the raw information that is coming out, while some portions of the media will be quick capitalize on that interest while stoking drawn out fixation on individual details, which has a way of causing confusion while missing the finer points entirely. As new information comes out it is important to understand the actions and reactions of the President and his proxies in light of their individual moments, because this is perhaps one of the finest ways to sift out truth among an avalanche of unabashed lies.

    1 - The New York Times reports that Donald Trump Jr. accepted a meeting with Kremlin agent Natalia V. through an intermediary.

    2 - Donald Trump Jr. confirms the meeting and explains its purpose was to simply discuss adoption laws.

    3 - Rob Goldstone confirms he was the intermediary who set up the meeting, and the pretense he'd been given for the request.

    4 - Natalia V. provides false statements (reported Tuesday morning) claiming that the Trump campaign requested the meeting and desperately asked her for damaging information about Hillary Clinton. This appears to be an attempt by Russian intelligence to inflict mild damage against President Trump as a power maneuver.

    5 - Immediately after Natalia V's statements are aired, President Trump summons a family business meeting.

    6 - Later that morning, attempting to counter-maneuver the Kremlin for positioning, Donald Trump Jr. (seemingly under his father's instructions or at least with his consent) proves Natalia V. is lying by releasing the full email exchange between himself and Goldstone. In the process he unobservantly reveals incontrovertible evidence that the Trump campaign willingly met with an agent of the Russian government for assistance in the election.

    We will update this timeline of events as appropriate in hopes of preserving important nuanced details.



  21. Anonymous2:30 PM

    Trump c*nt tries to spin.

    By Kayleigh McEnany

    OPINION | Forget Don Jr.'s email — it's Hillary Clinton who 'colluded' with Russia


    Why am I not surprised that absolute idiot and septic tank dweller, KAYLEIGH MCENANY puked out this swill?

  22. Anonymous2:33 PM

    Rep. Adam Schiff (Calif.), the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, said the committee has much more information about the ongoing investigations into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election than what has been reported publicly.

    "There's an awful lot more [intelligence] than that's even in the public domain," Schiff said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."


  23. Anonymous2:34 PM

    I have the answer:

    Cut out the middleman, go straight to the source . . . impeach Trump, install Putin as President.

    After all, Putin is now running US foreign policy. Let him take a stab at domestic policy -- he couldn't be worse than the Republicans!!!!

  24. Anonymous2:37 PM

    ‘I’m not sure this administration lasts’: Fox News guest blows the lid off Don Jr’s evidence of ‘collusion’


    BUSTED: Fox reported on Trump Jr.’s emails — after they scrubbed any mention of Russian government


  25. Anonymous2:45 PM

    Trump Aides Freaking Out Over Don Jr.'s Russia Email: The 'Sum Of All Fears'
    The president’s eldest son is in some serious trouble and practically nobody in a position of power—including his dad—is rushing to his defense.


    The 7 Most Important Things About The Trump-Russia Emails Donald Jr. Just Released
    This looks an awful lot like collusion.


  26. Anonymous2:46 PM

    Stephen Colbert Brutally Dissects The Donald Trump Jr.-Russia Collusion Claims
    “It’s not a smoking gun, but it is a gun meeting with a Russian bullet about their mutual desire to smoke.”


    1. He also pointed out that Junior is lying (again) when he says Manafort and Kushner didn't know what the meeting was about.

      They were sent copies of the e-mails BEFORE the meeting took place.

      Junior has totally screwed everyone. I hope that mob lawyer can protect him from the hitmen his Dad is probably hiring right now.

  27. Anonymous2:49 PM

    ‘Unlike anything I could have imagined’: Dan Rather laments ‘grotesque’ revelation of Don Jr.’s emails



  28. Anonymous2:55 PM

    Meghan McCain: Mike Pence’s Denial About Russia Communication Was ‘A Lie’

    “How they have let this spin so completely out of control is beyond my comprehension,” she said.


    1. Anonymous3:32 PM

      FUCK YOU MEGHAN MC$HAME! fuck you!
      It is your daddy dearest who started this $hi'T"!
      FUCK YOU. PI$$ on 666pence too!

  29. Anonymous3:00 PM

    Republicans Downplay Donald Trump Jr. Email Scandal

    Republican lawmakers downplayed revelations on Tuesday that Donald Trump Jr. received an email last year referencing an effort on behalf of the Russian government to aid his father’s campaign for president, describing the story as “overblown” or irrelevant.


  30. Anonymous3:59 PM

    About those off camera press conferences: Someone suggested that the audio be played on all networks while unflattering photos of POTUS are shown. Like the one in the tennis shorts. Eeewwww.

  31. Anonymous6:37 PM

    To put this in context, this occurred before the current Russian fever was in vogue.
    What a pathetic moron, St. Ronnie is turning in his grave. I guess he thinks the Cold war was about climate change.

    This family is running the country like an episode of Celebrity Apprentice and we know donnie jr ran to daddy right after the meeting and told him all about it. In fact if the meeting was in trump tower, little donnie could have attended and no one would have known.

    If his defense is nothing came of the meeting, he is in for a bigly surprise. The casual attitude is astounding. I find it hard to believe he is that stupid.

    I have never seen a family with no moral or ethical compass like the trumps.

    Now I want to know what Ivanka and putin’s girlfriend discussed during their vacation.

  32. Anonymous8:18 PM

    I wonder what Hillary Clinton thinks about this?

    Also Rachel Maddow raised the question of could Russia exercise coercion over Trump administration?

    I am hopeful that Mueller and his team build an air tight case.

  33. Anonymous8:20 PM

    If President Trump resigns his presidency and returns the presidency to the rightful person Hillary Clinton, removes his family from Washington DC, returns the Trump International Hotel in Washington DC to the government, give up lifetime presidential Secret Service, not only give up all pay but return all pay, Trump family stay under house arrest for 10 years... will America overlook all the Trump family political crimes?

    Fuck na!


  34. Anonymous8:22 PM

    Jr: Daddy, daddy... help me. Please don't let me take the wrap by myself.

  35. Anonymous9:03 PM

    Trump and co. knew of this when they all lawyered up. Then they had (advisers maybe Russians) forecast about where this could go and how the public could receive. If they had help from the Russians on this that would explain the Trolls saying Que Sera.
    I suspect that all of this espionage was planned years ago. When Putin was sitting at the round table with Micheal Flynn and Jill Stein.
    I found it interesting on how last summer Bernie Sanders came into play and seeded discontent in the democratic party.
    Either the discontent was seething before or Putin plants seeded it. Would be interesting to know. But Putin has a way of being secretive, and staying secretive.
    World dominion is a big undertaking.
    I think all this stuff against America began long ago in the Soviet Union, and Putin is about to realize his grandiose plan because of discontent Americans. Never thought I'd see that.

  36. Anonymous4:16 AM

    Trump thinks he can just pardon everyone and it ain't no big deal...til We the People have had enough.

  37. Randall4:39 AM

    Junior admits, "yeah, I colluded with our enemy - but she didn't have any good information so it doesn't count."


  38. Anonymous5:25 AM

    Wasn’t there something a few months ago about activity between russian servers and trump towers, maybe donnie jr was doing a lot of emailing to russians.

    Also makes you question what little donnie and putin were talking about on the phone when they turned off the recording and during the 2 hour meeting at the summit.


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