Courtesy of Law and Crime:
A student in Bradenton, Florida says she was forced to put band-aids on her nipples because she wasn’t wearing a bra, according to a WPTV report. The school district admits the situation shouldn’t have been handled that way.
17-year-old Lizzy Martin told the outlet she went to class in a grey Calvin Klein shirt Monday morning at Braden River High School. A dean said she was violating dress code and distracting male classmates. Martin was made to put on a second t-shirt under the other one. It wasn’t enough. The dean told her to stand up and move around for her, Martin said, but the official wasn’t pleased.
“So we went to the clinic and she gave me band-aids in there, and told me to X out my nipples,” Martin said. She followed the command, saying she felt she had no options.
Her mother told the outlet the school dean made a big deal about nothing: “This was a shirt that was unisex, that was too big, that was not form fitting.” She said there is a double standard, and that a male with “excessive breast tissue” wouldn’t be asked to “confine the movement” of his chest.
Lizzy Martin asked rhetorically that if the problem was that the male classmates were distracted, then why weren’t the boys “educated about the situation” as opposed to her being taken out of class?
Look I understand that we live in country founded by Puritans, but damn it is 2018!
If young men, or even older men, are distracted by a nipple covered by clothing that is their fucking problem, not the owner of the nipple.
Not to be too crude here, but I had a perpetual erection from middle school, all through high school, and partway through my twenties.
I saw a nice rear end, schwing!
I saw some cleavage, schwing!
I saw nipples poking through a shirt, schwing!
I saw a female flip her hair behind her ear....well you get the drift.
But that was MY problem, and I handled it without staring and making the young women uncomfortable, saying crude things to them, or blaming them for distracting me from my school work.
This young women did nothing wrong, and to humiliate her in this way is simply ridiculous.
Ummmm, 2018 ............even though it does feel like we are living in a time-worp these days.
ReplyDeleteYes I realize that I originally types 2016 instead of 2018.
ReplyDeleteI am not sure why that happened, though it was late last night, and I HAVE been thinking about the election quite a bit.
"Election"....or "erection"? :-)
ReplyDeleteShould've put the band-aids on the outside of her shirt as a "fashion statement".
ReplyDeleteSchools have dress codes,if the dress code says she has to wear a bra,she should have been sent home to put one on,not run through some test to see if her nipples showed with an extra tshirt.If it doesn't say that,she should have been left alone.
ReplyDeleteI recall having to send an employee home years ago because she was coming to work braless that created havoc among the men! I'm laughing as I type this and think back to the 1960's/70's!
DeleteThe issue is, why are grown (even young) men and women staring at her breasts. She could very well have been wearing a bra, and still have her nipples show. If two layers of fabric weren't sufficient, would they alter the dress code to specify a padded bra be worn at all times?
DeleteThe behavior of those sexualizing her should have been addressed. This is just more putting the blame on females for the misbehavior of others. Even women required to wear burqas are blamed for the actions of men around them. It obviously isn't the clothes. We'd do well to accept that before we reach the same level of oppression.
Actually, when I was younger, I volunatarily put bandaids on mine because the bras they had then didn't provide enough coverage, AND I DIDN'T WANT THE EXTRA ATTENTION. I don't agree with her being forced to put on the bandaids, but I do agree that schools get to have their dress codes. Actions have reactions. Not all good. Not all fair. Women need to pick their battles, and generally hiding your nipples in public will eliminate a lot of them.
ReplyDeleteSo by that logic teen boys should duct tape their peni down because their constant erections throughout the day can be distracting.
DeleteI thought about sloppy fat teachers to take care of the random erections. It always did the trick to distract
Delete7:13 I was raised to not show off erect nipples too. I can’t recall male peers at any age wearing tee shirt weight pants or shorts to have their penis flaccid or erect prominently displayed. I disagree that protruding nipples or obvious hard on be any student’s entitlement. If either sex wants that attention or does not give a shit quit school and be a stripper.
Delete'This young women did nothing wrong, and to humiliate her in this way is simply' un·prin·ci·pled.
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ReplyDeletehttps://www.chronicle.com/article/How-Scholars-Sustained-White/243053?cid=trend_right_a
"“One text even began with the capitalized title: ‘The White Man’s History.'”
The books, which were used in schools between about 1800 until the 1980s, presented black Americans exclusively as “ignorant negroes,” slaves or “anonymous abstractions that only posed ‘problems’ for … white people of European descent.”
“The assumptions of white priority, white domination, and white importance underlie every chapter and every theme of the thousands of textbooks that blanketed the country,” Yacovone wrote. “This is the vast tectonic plate that underlies American culture. And while the worst features of our textbook legacy may have ended, the themes, facts, and attitudes of supremacist ideologies are deeply embedded in what we teach and how we teach it.” “Indeed, descriptions of the Reconstruction era in history textbooks published from about 1900 to the mid-1960s provide a stunning immersion in white arrogance, black incapacity, and nostalgia for the sweet days of slavery and Southern white racial domination,” In the end, the book took a reconciliationist approach to slavery and the Civil War, asserting that everyone was brave, everyone fought for principle, and Robert E. Lee represented all that is noble and heroic in American society.”
“While I never forgot the book, its lessons, fortunately, made few lasting impressions upon me,” Yacovone added. “Given the national outburst of race hate that has erupted, however, I have to wonder exactly what we are now teaching our children.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/heres-history-textbooks-helped-perpetuate-white-supremacy-well-1980s/
I cracked up reading your comment, IM! I've always felt sorry for teenagers having to learn how to control their erections.
ReplyDeleteThose things have a mind of your own. Especially when you are a teenager.
DeleteHave to go against the tide here. My daughter was singled out in middle school and told she couldn't wear tank tops because she was too big-busted, while her flat friends could wear them. I realize now-- after she's suffered a life time of crude comments, stares, and grief-- that they were trying to save her and make her safe at school. School is hard enough without complicating it with slobby or inappropriate dressing. Why can't school be a place where young people learn to be on time, dress "professionally," and behave as they will have to in the work place? There are always consequences to your actions, and no one can be fully protected by the law. Especially women.
ReplyDeleteFYI "Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.) delivered her second daughter on Monday — making history as the first U.S. senator to give birth while in office." {KUDOS!}
ReplyDeleteDuckworth named her daughter Maile Pearl Bowlsbey, after her husband Bryan Bowlsbey’s great aunt, who was an army officer and a nurse who served during World War II, the senator said in a statement."
"Prior to being elected to the Senate in 2016, Duckworth served two terms in the House of Representatives.
Duckworth, 50, served in the Illinois and U.S. Departments of Veterans Affairs, and retired from the Army in 2014 as a lieutenant colonel. While serving in Iraq in 2004 as a helicopter pilot, she lost both of her legs and partial use of her right arm when her aircraft was hit by a rocket-propelled grenade."
"“Parenthood isn’t just a women’s issue, it’s an economic issue and one that affects all parents — men and women alike,” she said in the statement. “As tough as juggling the demands of motherhood and being a Senator can be, I’m hardly alone or unique as a working parent, and my children only make me more committed to doing my job and standing up for hardworking families everywhere.”"
'“Hooah,” also spelled “huah,” is ubiquitous in the conventional Army. Some say it stands for
“Heard, Understood, Acknowledged,”
but it is often shouted to express determination and Army spirit.'
Uniforms. Wore them for 12 years. Nothing sexual got through that fabric (grade school) or blazer (high school). HS boys wore jackets which, combined with a notebook, covered a multitude of pop-ups. They save time, you always know what you're going to wear. Money (we were in the "one to wear, one to wash" category of poor. And nobody not a student stood out from the crowd.
ReplyDeleteI see my local HS kids walking home and the girls look like hookers in training and the boys look homeless.
I don't give two hoots about a student getting away with some of the outfits I've seen on the ground of freedom to express themselves. Express themselves in studying or community service or mentoring and save the Calvin Kleins for Hallowe'en. What ever happened to "you're not leaving MY house dressed like that".
Schools have dress codes for good common sense reasons. Uniforms are even better. Students who wear uniforms usually score higher academically. For instance Catholics and students in Asian countries where uniforms are required. Uniforms show discipline and help level the playing field. They are also practical, as somebody pointed out here.
ReplyDeleteAnd anybody who thinks the United States was founded by Puritans wasn't paying attention in history class. https://madeinamericathebook.wordpress.com/2010/11/22/pilgrims-puritans-americans/
If you think it was the uniforms, you are naive. Because the Catholic schoolgirl fantasy was a thing. What actually may have helped was they usually separated students by sexes, so there were less distractions. But there was nothing better than a college girl who was a former Catholic school girl. They wanted to make up for lost time.
DeleteHonestly, to a teenage boy, even a nun can be sexy. That's just the way it is.
Twodux, I didn't say anything about sex, but I will now, having once been a teen-aged boy myself. Stop sexually stereotyping Catholic schoolgirls.
DeleteBrilliant two-fer, insulting nuns also, writing that "even" a nun can be sexy. As if taking vows makes a person unattractive.