Gee, no wonder these guys have a problem with women.
I first heard this term "Incel" when somebody used it to label me.
I quite literally had no idea what they were talking about, but I looked it up:
Incel: aka "involuntarily celibate", a person (usually male) who has a horrible personality and treats women like sexual objects and thinks his lack of a sex life comes from being "ugly" when its really just his blatant sexism and terrible attitude. incels have little to no self awareness; even when they see other "ugly" men with girlfriends, they consider these men to be tricksters who have somehow beat the system and can get women despite being cursed with unattractiveness (in other words, theyre respectful to women and women are attracted to their personalities, but incels cant comprehend such a phenomenon). they believe that women owe them sex, and many of the more extreme incels like to spend time in incel communities on the internet coming up with ways to make women have sex with them (often involving genocide of people of color, genocide of "Chads" (men who have sex), taking rights away from women, raping them, having sex with women's dead bodies, and other horrid, disgusting things. they cant understand that that is PRECISELY why women want nothing to do with them).
Okay, well there are plenty of derogatory things I could be called, that might actually reflect my character in some way, but this ain't it.
Apparently that recent attack in Canada is being blamed on one of these losers.
Men hating on women is certainly nothing new, and this does nothing more than put a new label on an age old problem.
For the record nobody owes anybody sex, or even affection.
Those are things you earn.
And relationships, no matter how awesome they may begin, often end with hurt feelings and even outright anger.
I have certainly been there myself.
But to hate on an entire gender just because you are unlucky at love, is certainly never going to convince that gender that you are worthy of their time or affection.
You have to try to be a better you, before you can expect others to be a better them.
"Women owe them sex."
ReplyDeleteThey are basically too cheap to pay for a hooker if they don't have the personality to woo a woman outright. Too cheap to pay for dinner and a movie and bite their tongue and behave in a socially acceptable manner. And too cheap to pay a prostitute when they fail.
These men make women voluntary celibates. We should have a whole reddit for "volcels." Women who would rather be celibate than sleep with an incel loser.
I'll bet they luuuuuve the Handmaid's Tale and hate that Ofred and the other handmaids are fighting such a wonderful system and are rooting for the oppressors. They want to live in that world and have their very own handmaid.
These are the ammosexuals that grow beards and live off the grid in the woods, kidnapping joggers and making them sex slaves.
I'll also bet they thought Cosby was shafted and didn't deserve the verdict he got. "Those women were all lying!"
These haters are wicked scary losers. They are serial rapists in the making. I'll bet in some cases they've already achieved it.
You mean like Dumbkota's buddy?
DeleteThat word sounds more like a brand of margarine, if anything.
ReplyDeleteThere actually is a brand of primer I've been using lately called INSL-X: the official paint of the involuntarily celibate, lol. BTW, lest there be any doubt, I am most emphatically NOT the idiot LOL troll!
DeleteIs that primer that also has some sort of insulating properties? Or just formulated to prevent any bleed through whatsoever?
DeleteIncel?
ReplyDeleteRather than studying words and concepts in existence, some moron thinks he's on to something so previously unknown that it requires creation of a new vocabulary. Get off the internet and open a book, douchebag word maker.
She could have made a helluva lot more as a spokesperson for Bartyles and James.
DeleteYeah, I thought it was a batteryAAAAAAAA.
DeleteHis time would be better spent taking a shower, shaving and using some deodorant. A shampoo and haircut wouldn't hurt either.
DeleteGet some decent clothes rather than shopping at the thrift store or army surplus.
Too bad they don't have "charm school" for men. They could all probably use lessons in deportment and polite conversation in social situations.
Oh, I get it.
ReplyDeleteAs in, Bristol was incel before the $262500 Candie's check cleared her account. Then she became her usual uncel (uncelibate).
She should be on schedule to 💩 out some random man's crotchfruit soon. Family values my ass.
DeleteFunny the whole tirade about makeup - it never donned on them to up their game by properly grooming, exercising, eating healthier and dressing sharply? Dont bitch, incels, ip your game losers
ReplyDeleteNo. Because the think they have a divine to get laid.
DeleteNotice the point system? Once they've used a woman, she gets passed down to the next level.
I imagine most of these guys wouldn't accept being labeled a 1/10 on their system.
BTW scientists have done studies and most people do date and marry someone who is their "attractive equal". There are outliers (like Julia Roberts and Lyle Lovett) but for the most part, couples are pretty equal.
Women are more concerned about the inner man that appearance. They like intelligence and a good sense of humor.
I suspect the reason these guys aren't getting laid has more to do with the poison inside than their appearance, social skills or lack of grooming, which I am sure is also a factor. Very few women want to be with a man that considers them some sort of object to be used and discarded. If that's what they want, they need to cough up money for a hooker. Which they are obviously too cheap to do. They want it for free.
What the hell happened to society?
ReplyDeleteThe election of a serial sexual assaulter to the White House and the ugly divide in our politics with the GOP cheating to gain control of state and federal offices has created a government which officially sanctions blatant misogyny.
DeleteThe lifetime of disgusting behavior of our Liar in Chief is dismissed as being insignificant, while legislation from Republicans that strives to turn women into commodities to be controlled and used as men see fit is being implemented all over the country.
White men know that they are rapidly losing their power because of changes in demographics and the refusal of women to return to the kitchen and put on pumps and pearls for their husbands. They are desperately holding on to their historic supremacy, and demeaning woman and minorities makes them feel as if they are still 'better'.
Incells were around before Trump. But he has certainly exacerbated their mental problems while emboldening them at the same time.
DeleteTo summarize; even though most of them make zero effort to be attractive (physically and also mentally) to women, they believe they are owed sex from women who are "10s"...not any of those horrible average women, and especially not any women who use good grooming and cosmetics to try to meet the ridiculous standards men place on them!
ReplyDeleteWhen their horrible personalities and terrible grooming habits don't impress women, they fly into a rage and go out and murder random women they don't even know.
They are terrorists.
They forgot to say outright "No fatties."
DeleteI thought the comments on single Mothers was also of note. You can bet theses guys would not wear a condom and would deny paternity. These are the guys that don't pay child support because they think it's the woman's problem she got pregnant and raising children is her job. Beside, she can't prove it's his. And on and on.
Where do you even start in critiquing this?
ReplyDeleteWow. Just WOW.
I'm a bit old fashion and believe there is always somebody for somebody. Compatibility, eyes for you, courtship etc. I feel respect for the opposite sex has declined due to changes in society. "The Homemaker" women were slowly degraded because they stayed at home to raise the children, to clean the home, to fix the meals. Then due to economics they went to work outside the home, chores were shared, womens lib. The attitude that I don't need you, want you. The lack of respect for the opposite sex. Men can learn a lot from a woman and Women can learn a lot from a man. Not to insult anyone but the gay revolution has similar problems in relationships. Incel is BS. Maybe caused by a personality disorder. There is nothing wrong with saving yourself for the right person. Free love and sex had its problems too. In the meantime do the things you love to do and when you least expect it, it happens. Sometimes people don't recognize the right person, the one that will be the right fit.
ReplyDeletePressure from bad economics, wages, attitude. The pressure to be famous, beautiful, wealthy and popular. Reality is none of that matters. Being a reasonable good human to your fellow humans does. Living within your means does, respecting all livings things does. Enjoy the simple things in life.
People like trump is the problem, the current republican party is the problem. Both have attempted to harm the American family.
You are history illiterate 3:48. Women have always worked, aprticualrly women of the ...WORKING class. Your Ozzie and Harriet view needs updating. Homemaker women were indeed degraded when running a home became a part time job due to technology and some even resorted to valium to cope with the boredom. And chores are not shared even today (again, read a decent sociology article with some peer reviewed research.)
DeleteNo, saving yourself for Ms./ Mr. Right isn't a good idea. Not since birth control came on the market. Imagine telling a kid, don't ride a bicycle until you find the perfect one, or a car or...good sex takes experimentation and practice. Tying it up with religious bullshit is just that, bullshit. Learn what you like, what you can tolerate, etc. Sex isn't the end all be-all though, it is just part of the relationship once you are out of the raging hormone phase.
Wow, 3:48, that was all over the place. Women have always worked, usually outside the home--it was only the brief post-WWII era in the USA that women spent all day at home (usually drugged out of their minds on "mother's little helpers" in order to tolerate the lifestyle). Women started attending college in the 1800s (Laura Ingalls Wilder's older sister went to blind college). It was men who wanted the women locked in the homes and not using their brains, so they wouldn't be able to compete with men. If you look at the harmful patriarchies on TLC (Quiverfull, Mormons, right-wing families of all kinds), they run on subjugated, uneducated women forced to be slaves in the household.
DeleteYou crucify those you cannot forget. Living like a LEECH.
DeleteMost of you here were not born when one household income was enough to have the American dream. That one income provided for the household, the new car, college, vacations, toys, healthcare without insurance and yes a savings account, retirement etc. Homemaker is not a bad word then or now. A true homemaker, male or female is a valuable person and gifted. You cannot pay someone to create your homelife. Why have kids if you must pay someone else to raise them, teach them, love them. Maybe wait till you have time and money to do it yourself.
DeleteSounds like the old old man is dictating words again.
DeleteGo home if you want changes!
Can't hideout anymore. Trace. Digital. Will. Find. You. ;)
11:35; one income to support a household was only a thing for white, middle-class women in the USA in a brief (30-year) period right after WWII. For the rest of human history and for women of color and non-middle-class women, other people (often the oldest girlchild) "raised" their children because the women were working their asses off in the fields or doing in-home businesses. Rich families always had other people taking care of their children.
DeleteMen should behave like gentlemen and women like ladies. Incels seem to be whiney confused creeps that need a lesson in manners and social issues. Another Russian KGB ploy out of the handbook to destroy society.
ReplyDeletehahahahahah. How about we all behave like decent human beings and you can return to the stoneage, 3:56? And how should non-cis people behave?
Delete^ yeah. Let's "drop" 356 in the Middle of nowhere zone?
DeleteSo how's ol Toad doing today?
Some people believe it is important to raise your own children instead of hiring someone or sending to daycare. Although you do get a tax break. Many fathers and mothers would love to be at home with their children. It is a luxury not a burden. Some people should not have children if it is such a terrible experience and burden. I think you missed the point of 348 and just made the case of degrading someone that choses the luxury and financial ability to be at home. At home careers are great. It is the trend today. Sounds like a few inbred incels are in the house.
DeleteIs there something wrong with a man behaving like a gentleman? A woman like a lady? A society without manners nor respect is trumps world not America.
Delete^ the "roaring 20'$" were raunchy. Give me a break.
Delete11:08, you were no more convincing in the previous comment. Women toiled at in-home businesses or on farms and someone else (usually the oldest girlchild) raised the children, or if there were no girlchildren, the children raised themselves.
DeleteSo, the "Golden State Killer" appears to have been an incel; the woman he wanted didn't want him because he was physically and emotionally abusive, so he raped and murdered dozens of women in retaliation: https://theslot.jezebel.com/report-the-golden-state-killer-may-have-been-retaliati-1825625506
ReplyDeleteThey aren't hating on an entire gender, they hate everyone (misanthropes). My guess is other than the incel part, they don't have any guy friends either.
ReplyDeleteSpot on.
DeleteThey hate women for not sleeping with them and they hate men that are able to sleep with women.
They hate lesbians for preferring women and gays for preferring men, plus they probably consider them a threat of being gay raped or something.
They basically hate everyone.
Probably also kick their dogs. If they can find a dog that is stupid enough not to run off and find a decent home.
Trump is the face of incel terrorist.
ReplyDeleteYou think the internet Incels are bad; just wait until the 70,000,000 horny Chinese guys get tired of waiting for the right girl to come along.
ReplyDeleteThis is courtesy of the Chinese Government's One Child policy.
I know a bunch of guys like this, Alaska is absolutely FULL of them. In fact, we just had one of these losers run over a mother of 4 outside a bar here in town, then he put his truck in reverse and ran over her AGAIN which killed her. He didn't know this young woman, all he knew was he hated ALL women because they didn't like his uber right wing bullshit!
ReplyDeleteInteresting that Gryphen was labeled an incel. Would like to know more of the circumstances of that interaction.
ReplyDeleteThere were no "circumstances," it was just a comment left on the blog by a troll.
DeleteThere is an almost constant attempt to apply labels such as misogynist, racist,homophobe, etc. to me in order to undermine what I write.
It is a rather transparent tactic that has been going on for over ten years now.
Yeah, well, I’ve been on this blog ten years, Gryph, and you are none of that. I disagree with some things you say on subjects but respect the double hockeys out of you.
DeleteTen years ago was “you want to know who $arah Palin is? I’ll tell you who she is,” with first hand knowledge. The wimpies couldn’t handle it. I was more than appreciative.
Control freaks cannot control themselves. Ignore all the critics. They whine all the time. Get them a diaper. ;)
DeleteG has always been fair in his articles 10yrs reading them.
DeleteFunny, Gryphen seems like a "gentleman" to me. While I can't speak to his personal grooming habits over the internet, he seems well-educated, well-spoken and in possession of good manners and the knowledge of when and how to apply them. He isn't a recluse or anti-social and can even hold down a steady job.
DeleteBasically everything an Incell is not.
Geez, more “small government” - I.e., controlling women and their sexuality. Sorry, bud. Women are not going back to being good little housewives under their husband’s thumb. I’m 61 and my parents wanted me to go to college and get an education so I would always be able to support myself and have CHOICES.
ReplyDeleteThat is a wise choice. You are only controlled if you want to be. Good little house husbands love to be home too.
DeleteSame here.
DeleteI'm 63. I grew up in a household where my Dad worked and my Mom stayed home. That was fine until I hit high school and my sister was out of elementary school. At that time it was decided we could take care of ourselves after school and my Mom could pursue other interests. She went to community college and eventually got a job as a secretary for the Navy. (She had worked as a secretary before marriage. In fact, so did her mother so it runs in the family.) The second income helped a lot. My Dad stepped up and took on some of the household chores. The occasional dinner (always on the grill outside and either steak, burgers or hot dogs) and I even caught him vacuuming the carpet. When she was out of state at a funeral, he stripped and rewaxed the kitchen floor.
When I graduated high school I floated the idea of a year off before college. They were having none of it. They didn't care what I majored in but I was to go to college and get a degree because I needed the ability to support myself and there was no guarantee I would get married. (Turns out I didn't and have supported myself just fine. I'm retired now and living comfortably.) They used the same argument in 8th grade to make me take a summer class in typing. That has stood me well my entire life. I got summer temp work as a clerk typist and typed my own master's papers. If I wanted to work in my retirement, I could probably still get temp work as a clerk typist.
The only choice I wasn't given was whether I would go to college or not. Because once I had that degree, I had all of the choices in the world and the freedom and independence to made my own.
Remember the guy in So Cal that opened fire, I believe it was at a university, because he also couldn't get a date? That was the first time I believe I heard the moniker 'incel'.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.refinery29.com/2018/04/197446/what-is-incel-reddit-meaning-hate-women?bucketed=true&bucketing_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
Delete"The word "incel" was, however, originally created more than two decades ago by a Canadian woman named Alana, who intended it to refer to a community of lonely people unable to find sexual partners. She has since said the term has been hijacked "as a weapon of war" by men."
" "Chads" is used to refer to men who are successful with women, while "Stacys" refers to the women who reject incels.
Other terms used by incels include "truecel", referring to someone who has never had sex or been in a relationships despite trying; "mentalcel", someone whose mental health or insecurities has contributed to their inability to have sex or a relationship; "volcel", someone who is voluntarily abstinent for whatever reason; and "fakecel", someone who falsely claims to be an incel but has had sex or been in a relationship."
All goes back to how the individual was raised. I won't go into that. But people like that started in their early childhood. Lots and lots of therapy will help but who has that kind of money, and most people with problems don't see it as problems..
ReplyDeleteThe first time i ever heard the word 'incel' was reading reports of the Toronto murders.
ReplyDeleteMy boys, Matt and Trey, will hopefully put the 'label' in perspective for us — the same way they did cisgender.
OT?"Arrested were Landrum, a Private First Class, who is charged with third-degree rape; Lance Corporal Jared Anderson, 18, booked on first-degree rape; and Lance Corporal Alexander Davenport, 20, booked on two counts of first-degree rape- Police said Saturday that an arrest warrant has been issued for a fourth suspect, identified as Matthew Farrell, 22, who remains at large on a charge of aggravated rape.-It was not immediately known whether the fourth suspect was also a Marine."
ReplyDeletehttps://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/fourth-suspect-sought-new-orleans-rape-probe-three-us-marines-arrested/
Pretty sure that most of these incel guys also have narcissistic personality disorder. Most narcissists have a natural tendency to objectify and hold the opposite sex in contempt, and narcissism is more common in males than females. I imagine that if Trump hadn't conned people into believing he was a billionaire, he wouldn't have gotten very far at all with the models, playboy bunnies and porn star crowd. In fact, he may very well have become an "incel" himself.
ReplyDeleteAll I can say is that I hope that our government is infiltrating this group.......they seem like a breeding ground for serial killers and rapists.
Pretty sure most of these guys grew up like other men in America, being taught only their wants mattered and that women are here to cater to their every whim.
DeleteI'd like to get my hands on that writer even tho I know he can't be serious. Does he imagine that women are getting acid painted on their faces and their breasts sliced open for a bag of silicone to be inserted for the fun of it or because women are no longer acceptable in their natural state to men like him?
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