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"The Tea Party has become a very legitimate grass roots movement in this country."When the hell did THAT happen?
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"The Tea Party has become a very legitimate grass roots movement in this country."
I think we are very close to mob rule & civil war in this country for a number of reasons. The Bush Admin cynically used the religious right for votes & not much else. McCain tried unsucessfully to do the same. It would seem that the used have now gained control & won't let go. What do they want...god only knows. Their principles & morals are scary & I'm noticing people who hold religious views are becoming more aggressive on pushing them on others.
ReplyDeleteIn regards to the last post, one thing that occured to me with those telling photos....guess who is following the Palins around......the paparzzi. She may have just created a monster. The paparazzi are dogged & ruthless & she may be worth money to them. How ironic the grifter gets grifted. With as many skeletons as she has in the closet she'd best beware. Sarah....remember John Edwards???
While, the left is sooooo fascinated with the splinter in the republican's eye, it can't even see it's in far danger trouble with a 2 X 4 in it's own:
ReplyDelete"When Massachusetts Democrat Michael Capuano, fresh from a second-place finish in the primary for Edward Kennedy's Senate seat, was asked to tell the Democratic caucus what he had learned on the campaign trail, he replied in two words: "You're screwed."'
And, for what it's worth, Palin's a big girl with Roger Ailes calling the shots now. I think I'd be concerned more if I were you with exactly WHY Capuano believes the left is going over the cliff.
Palin has so many skeletons in her closet they apparently the doors are jammed and no one can even open them. That must be the reason no one has found one yet.
ReplyDeleteThen, off course, the skeletons could be the equivalent of Bigfoot.
Zane:
ReplyDeleteYou are absolutely right about the Palin and the paps. They are going to ruthlessly pursue her every move and she is going to get screwed big time in the end. I'm looking forward to it.
I agree that the republicans have outsmarted themselves and have let loose a rabble that are determined to impose a religious agenda on the country. These people are full of hate and meanness and are very bigoted against anyone who is not "like them". This is a worry some thing for the future of our country which has managed to maintain freedom for over 200 years by having more reasoned leaders and parties who were willing to compromise and let other ideas exist. The tea party is partially led by religious right people and other fundamentalist idea groupies who each believe that they are the only way. If you are not saved you are not worthy of listening to or having rights. God has decreed. It in the bible is the answer to everything. Or they have a distorted view of the constitution and bill of rights There is no room for other religious ideas or reasoned expressions in their world. Our country was founded by people fleeing the old world to escape such tyranny that we may come to feel here if they gain control. GOD HELP THE COUNTRY. They will kill it to save it for jesus or kill it to rewrite the constitution they way they interpret it for them only.
ReplyDeleteThe GOP has become a Whack-Job Party. The inherent bi-partisan check and balance is lost. This is desperate and pathetic but oh so dangerous.
ReplyDeleteIf the religious majority were to become, say, Islamic - don't these Christians realize the majority could employ similar tactics of mandating their faith in social policy and public events? It's fine to insert religious values on society as long as it's Christian? OMFG you short-sighted fools. Keep your faith out of all this!
Keep your mind-boggling biblical interpretations of superfluous, archaic and abject fears about individual and family structure out of our lives.
You all are hopelessly disfunctional and social terrorists and we are all certain your $hit stinks as much as the ones you are trying to micro-manage for wholesomeness, patriotism and Americanness. . .
Constitution, the Bill of Rights and a reasoned Supreme Court don't fail us now!
For those of you who may not frequently read Oz Mudflats, go read the post from yesterday .."No Wonder You Can't Fly ... Your Right Wing is Broken." It is an eloquent statement regarding what you are discussing here this morning. And good morning all. My mood is improved over yesterday, because maybe the paparazzi will help uncover Palin truths.
ReplyDeleteAnon 6:26
ReplyDeleteYou stated so well what many of us are thinking.
Did he say Rick Santorum? Oy.
ReplyDeleteHas anyone else noticed a growing trend by the wingnuts to characterize "libruls" as stupid, illogical, and--if female--ugly and fat? You see it all the time on their blogs and wingnut sites, but I went to a Christmas party over the weekend where several acquaintances kept making "Jokes" along those lines, too. And think about the Palinbots' comments that maybe now liberal women will like Sarah since they all have cellulite, too. Huh?
ReplyDeleteI don't remember this from the past. It's ironic, since surveys repeatedly show that liberals tend to be far better educated than conservatives and red states are on average much fatter than blue states, But it's also disturbing, since it shows a tendency to demonize the opposition, to paint them as "the other." It's as if anyone who doesn't support them must be an atheist (not that there's anything wrong with that!), wants to abort all babies, and does incantations to bring on the antichrist.
This kind of polarization is not healthy, and yes the blame does lie with Beck and Palin and the rest of Murdoch's band of incendiaries.
@6:01 concern troll - you can worry about that, if you want to, but for me, I'll not take your deflection reflection suggestion. Instead, I'm going to respond to the subject of Gryphen's post:
ReplyDeleteThe GOP wants the Teabaggers and Crazy Christians because without them, there is no GOP left - the moderates have left in droves. But it was a short-sighted goal to want their donation money; it has ruined the GOP brand. In terms of its legitimacy, Maddow has well-profiled how it is funded by Koch, Freedom Works, and Fox.
Gryphen, for some reason your embedded videos no longer show up in my browser. Can you tell us in the text what you're linking to, so we can find it? Thanks.
ReplyDeleteI didn't see any white hoods in the picture.
ReplyDeletePerhaps its laundry day?
Because that is what we will all get if they get one little taste of power. Look at Palin. An she is only one lunatic.
the first thing I thought when I saw this post was that these people want to live by mob rule.
ReplyDeletethen I click on the comments and zane, first commenter, brings up mob rule. funny that.
the 30%-ers know not what they wish for.
I truly love this blog and all the commenters that I am familiar with. The trolls...not so much. I don't get them....are they all dumb?
ReplyDeleteThe GOP has destroyed itself from the inside out. The dems are worrying because from where I sit, they are still pandering to the neanderthals. That will get you nowhere fast.
Please Mr. President...get angry. Get healthcare and all that good stuff. If it cannot be done, then please please come to live with us in Canada. You will not have to worry about your rights to your own body...you will have good health care....your children will all get good educations, (we value it highly) and your reproductive rights belong to you.
We will welcome you will all.
as you ask yourselves how we got to this point, just remember - it all comes back to our priorties. almost a century of the wrong priorities has brought us where we are today. fully 1/3 of the country are ignorant flat-earthers, and the other 2/3 has enabled it to happen because they spent their time being consumed with "getting theirs" and didn't really care what was going on elsewhere. now we know, this is where our priority roads lead.
ReplyDeleteand if you're not out contributing to america by BUYING TONS OF SHIT for jesus's birthday, then you're not a real american. priorities. get yer ass to walmart.
Maybe TMZ will take them down. They have a photo of Todd in Hawaii in the "love it or get the hell out" tshirt (nice). Can you imagine the ex first dude of Alaska in the White House. Jesus. I noticed the comments were all in support of the Palins so the bots are all over TMZ since yesterday. The Palins may have met their match with TMZ....equally sleazy & out for money.
ReplyDeletePeople have been telling us about this movement for about thirty years and we did not listen because we thought it was crazy to think they could get any power. They did get power and it is tied to those who have most of the money in this country as well as the military-industrial-CIA complex(They used to focus us on communists and now it's terorists). It is about money as ususual. It is about the haves wanting to take everything from the have nots. We have been causing these situations in 3rd world countries for the last 50 years and now they did it to us. It is about diverting our attention from the real story of what is happening. Look at Tiger, look at Sarah Palin. This gives the news media something to focus on and they follow along like sheep. This is why people have been trying to tell the country this is a dangerous movement, because it is very dangerous. We have been propagandized into being polarized and allowed the worst thing that can happen in a democracy, lack of education.
ReplyDeleteSarah Palin doesn't scare me but her followers sure do.
ReplyDeleteOur country has become so polarised since the Republicans started attacking Clinton endlessly in his administration. It lessened slightly during the Bush/Cheney years, but has come back in full force in the Obama administration. Her followers - "real Americans" according to them - are some of the scariest, dimmest, and dumbest people I've ever seen. Gotta be almost 100% white, these people are afraid of the future, which heavily portends an end - finally - to white, protestant dominance in the US.
These scared, ignorant people are dangerous. You better believe that the hate in this country is racially motivated. Where were these dullards the last eight years, when Bush/Cheney did more to make their lives miserable than Obama could possibly do? All of a sudden you're worried about "deficits"? Hey, look at the Bush/Cheney years. Why weren't you protesting then? Oh, that's right, the "white" people were in charge and you just knew they had your best interests in mind. Sure they did.
Bush had his base - the "have's and the have more's" and if you weren't a part of that base, you're shit outa luck. Palin-supporters, why weren't you out "Tea Partying" then?
These Palin supporters amaze me with their political ignorance and their vacuousness in supporting a dim-wit like Palin. I don't think anything will change their minds about her.
Zane,
ReplyDeleteI think you are correct. Now that the tabloids( which Sarahs fans read and cheered when they brought down John Edwards) are dogging her I think it is Sarahs end. They don't care about not "hurting Sarahs feelings" they'll now write what sells their papers. She thinks it won't affect her fan base, but it will. They are the ones that buy the tabloids weekly.
The GOP in done and their undoing has been the teabagger, but their numbers are very small and I bet most don't even vote. They are the undereducated and bigotted members of our society, but I am glad they are out in "societies face", they are exposed for what they are and no legit candidate wants to align with them because they will lose the educated intelligent base. S'error will go down in history as bringing down the GOP.
As for S'error she will never be anything but a runnerup at anything she tries to do in life.
Go Tea Party!! Run third party candidates! make Miss Wasilla your queen!!
ReplyDeleteall good for us
Laurie-Ann, do not ever think you are safe from what has taken over the GOP. It could easily happen up your way as it has in other countries where the fundies have sent missionaries, money, and guns (think Uganda). If they take over the USA, you are a sort skip over the border and don't think they won't try to take over your country and MExico.
ReplyDeleteThey want the whoel world, and getting the USA is the biggest (not the first) step to that goal.
CR46, they vote. All of them. They get bussed to the polls by their churches, I've seen it here in Indiana and it scared the crap out of me.
ReplyDeleteThis KOS is for you Laurie- Ann:
ReplyDeleteWill Obamacare Be Killed by Kos? [Robert Costa]
"Markos Moulitsas, the founder of Daily Kos, one of the Left’s leading blogs, is fuming. For months, he has been leading the charge on Obamacare, drumming up support amongst Democrats while keeping the Left’s many camps united behind one goal: passing a health-care bill. Now, with Senate majority leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.) caving to one senator after another, Moulitsas sees his cause being destroyed by his own side. And he’s fighting back."
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Still think the democrats are all on the same page and not rotting from the inside? I'm not saying republicans aren't just that the left has as big or bigger problems because they have obtained power in an unprecedented manner and have been about as savvy using it as a kid 10-year-old placed in the cockpit of an F-16.
Yep, they took over the Texas Repub party from the local level up. Watch your school boards and local councils. They are determined to get political power any way they can to force their "social" agenda upon the rest of us.
ReplyDeleteBTW, TMZ.com has a new poll at 12:17. You lie? or You don't lie? Let's not let the bots win this one.
Ragin' Cajun:
ReplyDeleteI suppose it was Beck, Palin and Murdoch who conceived the "9-11" was an inside job" conspiracy; Beck, Palin, and Murdoch, who likened the Bush presidency and its offenses to the genocide of the Jews in World War Il.
Let's go back a bit further. Was it the left or the right that conceived the Tuskegee Syphilis experiments? The mass incarceration of tens of thousands of Japanese in stables and the desert during World War II?
You guys have awful short memories. It wasn't under the right's watch that the nuclear genie was let out of the bottle, was it?
And how was it that Lincoln was elected? Guys on your side of the aisle couldn't do what had to be done to put a stake in the heart of slavery.
Spare us, please, your historic amnesia and the periods when the left (or democrats) displayed ghastly indifference to the principles over which you would have us all believe it stands guard.
Americans in barns during
I just wish the progressives could exert as much influence on the Democratic Party as the teabaggers do on the Republicans. At this point, as the Democratic party drifts further and further to the right, we on the left have no voice. While Republicans are bending over backward to accommodate their far right fringe, the Democrats in control (including the president) are busy demonizing Howard Dean and others who oppose giant bailouts of the insurance industry, big Pharma, banks, the war machine, etc. I'm sick and tired of it. I'm really glad I never bought into Obama's "Hope and Change" schtick because I suspected he was just more of the same. I feel sad for my friends who really believed he would make a difference.
ReplyDeleteTo Daisydem:
ReplyDeleteI just read OzMudflats' "No wonder you can't fly" post. You're so right. It's quite fitting to this thread. If yall haven't read it yet, please do. It makes perfect sense.