Palin bears no direct responsibility for this, in my view, and has done nothing wrong. But this story does reveal some of the virulence and anger and violence that lies beneath what has become a political cult. And her public statements that someone like Joe McGinnis may be a sexual threat to her children or is a "freak" and her constant invocation of victimhood are not helpful in this kind of incendiary context.
This woman commands forces out there that are truly terrifying and violent. If you want to know why so much about her is still unknown, you do not understand the fear her followers and acolytes command in her native Alaska. That fear is real; and it is not without reason.
I am a big fan of Andrew Sullivan but I am going to have to respectfully disagree with his assessment that Sarah "bears no direct responsibility" for these threats.
As I pointed out in my follow up post about this restraining order, Sarah CHOSE to make public statements through her lawyer painting this very sick young man as somebody who makes her fear for her life. ("Bottom line is, he is crazy and could kill me," Palin said, according to the court transcript. "He wants me dead.")
Plain knew FULL well that once her Palin-bots heard that they would start frothing at the mouth and go on the attack. She has stoked the fires of this vicious hatred many times before.
Sarah Jones, from Politicususa, closely matches my opinion of Palin's responsibility for this incredible aggression from her fans:
The Right’s argument will be that anyone who dares to point out facts in this case hates Sarah Palin and deserves to die a death only fit for liberal. They’ve gotten the entire Right wing blogosphere crazy enough to be threatening to kill someone and using their IP addresses to do so. Apparently, they don’t understand why it matters that neither President Obama or John McCain have vigilantes out to take “justice” into their own disturbed hands. And of course Ms Palin herself has not bothered to set the record straight or throw water on the her fan’s flames of unmitigated and unregulated rage. She is an exceptionally irresponsible “leader”. The entire nation needs a civil restraining order from Palin fans, and I dare say, from Palin rhetoric.
It is time to stop giving Palin a pass for the vicious responses coming from her supporters, the people we call Palin-bots. She uses her Facebook and Twitter account to herd them around like sheep, so she is ultimately responsible for when they get out of control and threaten others with bodily harm or fill their e-mail in-boxes with hate speech.
As the Frontiersman pointed out, the people who threatened Christy were not threatening him on behalf of John McCain or President Obama, they threatened to kill him on Sarah Palin's behalf. And they did so to protect her from a threat that law enforcement officials, and even the Secret Service, deemed too inconsequential to require that he be charged with a crime.
I call on Sarah Palin to take that constantly present Blackberry of hers and tweet out a message telling her followers to stand down, after all she felt she had the power to tell the entire Islamic religion to stand down, so surely she can tell the idiots that follow her to do the same.
We are waiting Ms. Palin. When will you finally take responsibility for the violence you inspire?
I wrote asbout his yesterday, after your earlier post. In the comments, a woman notes how she lost her job in Wasilla yesterday, just for giggling about a flower arrangement for the Palin/Miller 9/11 sleaze fest. Took 'em a few weeks, but they got her.
ReplyDeleteYou're right - Sullivan backs off from the core of the truth on this.
She is not going to Gryph. Too much money in it for her.
ReplyDeleteEXCELLENT post, Gryphen!
ReplyDeleteHer promotion of lies and violence started during the '08 campaign. No one in the MSM called her on it or made her responsible and it has just escalated from there.
ReplyDeleteI still believe that she is a smoke screen for something or someone else and as long as we keep focused on every little thing she does, the plan is working. Instead, I wish someone would mount a series of ads with ONE issue at a time: such as the conservative viewpoint pushed over and over that she is such a fiscal conservative. Did she not leave both Wasilla and Alaska in debt? I think an ad or tweet that says Palin spent three thousand dollars on Spanks in six weeks might be a hoot!!!
I think the ads should be short, simple and hard hitting_much like Grayson's. Fight fire with fire.
"...Sarah CHOSE to make public statements through her lawyer painting this very sick young man as somebody who makes her fear for her life."
ReplyDelete"...she felt she had the power to tell the entire Islamic religion to stand down, so surely she can tell the idiots that follow her to do the same."
Excellent post, Gryphen!
That picture of her is really scary - I mean REALLY scary.
ReplyDeleteHas anyone ever checked behind her ear to see if there is a 666 there?
Well, the Imam at the ground zero mosque has been getting worse threats to himself and his family. Has she acknowledged that or still just crying about her own safety?
ReplyDeleteSarah has accute, selective hearing. She doesn't hear "Kill him" at her rallies when she's snarking on the front-runner of the opposition party - but she 'hears' some kids yelling (We can't hear you!) at an outdoor event and she decides to take them out (cause they must be haters if they aren't just applauding her every word) by saying that troops are dying to protect their right to protest her.
ReplyDeleteShe doesn't come to the aid of the mentally challenged woman executed in Virginia, she calls this pathetic little boy 'crazy' and doesn't offer the very obvious help he needs but labels him in a way that will sic her bots on him and his Christian homeschooling family.
She is a morally reprehensible, agitating and caustic bitch who is a danger to herself and others.
I feel so badly for the family & friends of Mr. Christy.
ReplyDeleteI have a friend who got in trouble for making similar threats to Bush, Cheney & a foreign dignitary. He was mentally ill. As long as he's in treatment he's no threat, and he's a very, very sweet man. Not someone who should go around with a bulls-eye on his back.
I agree with the other posters. Palin connects with the mob mentality of her fans. I'm sure she secretly enjoys that many want to hunt down this guy like an animal. The kid needs mental help and due process of the law.
ReplyDeleteI give the Frontiersman credit for trying to set the record straight. As for Sullivan, I say everyone has a right to their opinion. However I know the crazy element she stirred up here in Ohio. The woman is vile.
JMO
Ohiovoter
I suspect most of Sarah's online lynch mobs are not old enough to drive. Or vote.
ReplyDeleteSarah, (and this should scare you) remember:
ReplyDeleteCharles Manson never killed anybody.
As I've said before - they need to go after Palin as has been done w/Ms. O'Donnell - one step at a time with proof sources. This will have to occur should she actually run for President of the U.S. (heaven forbid!).
ReplyDeleteThe President, VP, etc. receive threats every day. We rarely hear about them because appropriate action is taken (usually they receive help and go back on their meds). We never learn their names and their privacy is respected. It is so disgusting what Palin did to this young man and his family.
ReplyDeleteLike you, I also disagree with Sullivan on this one. Sarah holds the full responsibility as far as I am concerned. She knows damn well she was never in danger. Yet can't stand sharing the spotlight with Bristol so she drums up all this bullshit to get the sympathy again.
ReplyDelete"Sarah CHOSE to make public statements through her lawyer painting this very sick young man as somebody who makes her fear for her life."
ReplyDeleteYes she did when it didn't need to be made public. Why would she step up and tell her cult to stand down? What would SHE get out of that? To her, what's someone else's life worth in comparison to a few days attention for her?
OWN YOUR HATE SARAH
ReplyDeleteIt is October 2010 and it is pretty obvious you got lots of hate. Besides that whole professional victim mantra really doesn't make the team anymore.
"We are waiting Ms. Palin. When will you finally take responsibility for the violence you inspire?"
ReplyDeleteYou really have to ask this?
When the devil ice skates to work, is when.
She and her crosshairs, reload, attack and warriors. Nope, she's not gonna see a thing wrong with any of it.
9:47, Great idea about single-issue ads. Take her on one issue at a time, and people will listen. Hit her with a lot, and people turn it off.
ReplyDeleteI hope someone with clout listens to your idea!
Anon. 9:56AM.... When a person operates in angers and hates, they open themselves to demonic power. They become very evil and violent to anyone who cross them, even their own children. Look into her eyes and any of the tea partiers eyes, you'll see there is something in them that is scary. You don't have to be a Christian to see it. They hide behind the title Christian to deceive those who are blind. I wonder how her church caught on fire. Why so many people afraid of her.
ReplyDeleteI call her Jezebel, because the Biblical character was evil like Sarah. She was out to kill and destroy all of God servant. Todd is so much like Ahad, he allow his wife to do his dirty work. Jezebel had an innocent man killed for not giving his property to Ahad. I see Jezebel in Sarah... Jezebel had a seduction spirit, like Sarah using her push up bra. Todd like Ahad, sit back while Sarah do all the talking. Some people wonder if Todd knew how to talk.
Levi and his family is walking on thin ice. He not fighting back because it can cost him & his family life. Bristol didn't leave her condo on her own... I believe got shaken up by her mother. I know she didn't plan to wear that miss piggy dress at DWTS... You can tell it was a last minute outfit. The top was pinned on the shoulder and bottom was added.... You are right, she do look scary...
Does Sarah Palin have a problem with teen boys? Levi, David Kernell, now this one? Again, Mr. Christy may be dangerous and she should have protection, but why always young teen boys? Coincidence?
ReplyDeleteWhy would Sarah's lawyer allow this to leak out, or this one event to be revealed to the public? How many others who may have posed any danger, but why this teenager?
It strikes me that this was some kind of political move - for what reason I don't know. Maybe she was angry at the booing last week, and in her infantile mind, she needed a dose of adoration and pity. So she preys on one lone teenager. It sounds like this kid comes from a low-income family and wouldn't have funds to travel or be any great threat.
Sounds very fishy to me. And, yes, Sarah's words are harsh. She doesn't care if they affect others, but as soon as they start to affect her, she screams "victim!".
If Sarah wants to be known as a Christian, she needs to finally start acting like one.
ReplyDeleteWords are not sufficient. Actions speak louder than words, and her actions are not those of a true Christian.
She needs to demonstrate true compassion, true empathy, true forgiveness, and true humility.
Sure, Christians are just human, flawed like the rest of us, but she claims to be an uber-Christian and her followers see no flaws in her. However, you'd expect some demonstration of these traits, some sincere, quiet and non-ego-bound response.
Sarah apparently lacks the ability to be a humble servant, and that's just tragically sad - for her, her family and for those who blindly follow her. She has never used her public position to be an example of a follower for Christ,and probably never will because she is not one who understands how to live a humble, grateful life.
Perhaps it is this that is her lesson in life. If she fails to embrace it, she will have failed her faith.
Sarah doesn't understand the concept of responsibility. If she did, she would not have quit halfway through her commitment as Governor. If she did, she would not abandon her children to follow and feed her ego. If she did, Native Alaskans might not have suffered so under her tenure.
ReplyDeleteIf she understood responsibility, she would not have left Wasilla in deep debt. If she understood, she would have paid for her own clothing rather than have that protracted farce with the RNC. By the time the campaign was over, she knew she was going to be earning big money and could have quietly worked out a payment plan with the RNC.
Sarah and the concept of responsibility are strangers to one another.
She doesn't care about anyone else. If she did, she would indeed accept responsibility for the heinous threats and acts of her followers - telling them she was ashamed of their misplaced passion and she would not use language so carelessly that merely whips up hate and unrest. No, Sarah does not care so she does not understand responsibility.
She needs to grow up and accept responsibility for the consequences of the words she says and the responsible things she fails to do.
well gryphen people who live according to the 'ends-justifies-the-means' philosophy don't care about violence. they will not apologize for it. this is why I am sure palin and her bots would scoff at your question.
ReplyDelete1. Could Sarah be sued for her statement if it is proven to be slanderous?
ReplyDelete2. The only reason why I have read all these Palin posts since August 2006, is that my opinion was that she had the potential to be the most dangerous person in history to walk the face of the earth, bar none!
I just want her to thank tax payers of Wasilla for her free house
ReplyDeleteSarah's speeches have been based on the Mean Girl from High School Model. She is very good at issuing the kind of slurs that make people want to stick with her so that they aren't on the receiving end of the insults. George W. Bush was another person who was good at mean spirited remarks.
ReplyDeleteMean girls (and boys) have become much more dangerous, thanks to the lightening speed that gossip can be spread on the internet. A kid asks for the dorm room and privacy, and then is filmed by his roommate having a homosexual encounter. It drove the poor young man to suicide. In good old days there may have been whispers, even a gossip campaign. Today, the results are much more dangerous. And, there have been many examples of cyber-bullying with tragic consequences.
When Sarah "unleashed the Hounds of Hell," according to Joe McGinniss, she is tapping into a very powerful for of hatred. Their campaigns are well organized and provoked. Gryphen knows all too well what a well orchestrated hate campaign can do. Sarah must be silently applauding her "fans," but she takes not personal responsibility of the consequences of her words. And, Sarah was the first to say, when it was someone else who crossed the line, that there must be consequence. The problem is that there never are any consequences for Sarah.
Striking contrast between the Palin reaction to this recent threat and the reaction to threat of rape to her daughters documented in "Going Rogue". School officials have stated they were never informed about the threat to the daughters.
ReplyDeleteSee how this works? We've all forgotten about Bristol. And about that cute little O'Donnell chick who really needs to self-destruct her own self [wasn't that just palinacious].
ReplyDeletePalin sails her little boat of hate, jealousy, and victimhood, and leaves in her wake hate and anger multiplied by a factor of thousands.
ReplyDeleteWhen she looks back over her shoulder at that multiplied hate, she says "That's not my fault."
A leader is defined by her followers -- and Palin's nasty followers speak volumes about her: fear and hate-monger of the lowest order.
She will never take responsibility for her followers because they are doing exactly what she wants them to do.
Slightly off topic:
ReplyDeleteSarah Palin Speaking engagement in Miami was cancelled/(postponed?)
Another event sponsored by "Liberty and Freedom Foundation"
(one last March in Midland TX, and there's another one scheduled in California this month)
http://cbs4.com/politics/sarah.palin.miami.2.1945559.html
And Miami Times Herald as well.
Another Sarah article about her obsession with Rouse, by Geoffrey Dunn on Huff. Post. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-dunn/pete-rouse-and-the-lies-o_b_749600.html His book now not released until Feb. 2011.
ReplyDeleteAs others have said, Sarah could very easily ask the bots to tone down the threats and rhetoric, but she chooses NOT to do it. She knows damn well it is happening but simply ignores it. I wonder how she will react when one of her "crazies" actually hurt someone. I think it is only a matter of time before it happens.
ReplyDeleteMaybe she is mad about betting booed on DWTS and needs to bask in the admiration of some of her sick followers.
It saddens me to say that the MSM is not giving this any attention and that they seem to give Sarah a pass on virtually everything that she does. Are they afraid of her, also?
I like how he threatened the president first, got to the White House, and was appropriately investigated by the Secret Service, who took no action. But Sarah's the one who's threatened.
ReplyDeleteIt reminds me of all those nutballs showing up at town hall meetings in the summer of 2009 -- death panel summer -- where the president was speaking with machine guns. Remember that? Didn't some conservatives try to make hay about these people being pulled from such meetings?
Isn't it time for someone to make an announcement?
ReplyDeleteSarah Palin likes to play the victim, and this instance is no exception. Her lemmings fall for it every time. On one forum, one of her bozo fans likes to accuse me, a black woman, of hating her because she is supposed to be the epitome of American womanhood. He is from Alaska and he posts under different monikers. This vitriol is in direct response to the justified criticism she gets from those who see her exactly for who and what she is. But he is very typical of her lemmings who have shouted out at the 2008 rallies where she stirred up hate. He is typical also of those who directed death threats against Joe McGinnis, and now, Christy. I can only wonder what these fools would do if she runs for president and loses.
ReplyDeleteAs far as taking responsibility for her actions is concerned, I wouldn't hold my breath. She still hasn't admitted that she was a big factor in why John McCain lost his second bid for the presidency, nor has she taken responsibility for the role she played in her incendiary rallies during the 2008 campaign. Heck, she doesn't even take responsibility for the shenanigans of her 3 older kids.
I can only hope that not only wholesale rejection of the candidates she has endorsed, but being soundly defeated should she run for president, will finally get it through her thick skull that most people don't like her or what she stands for.
I had never heard of Sarah Palin before August 08, but I have to assume she's always been this kind of thug with a plenty of henchmen and goons and bullies to carry the dirty water.
ReplyDeletethis type of personality does not just happen overnight.
the best hope is for one of her children to rebel and break free and speak out. don't see that happening any time soon, but it could happen.
- kellygrrrl
Sarah Palin is a martyr. She thinks that she is a good person and that she is misunderstood for her "good deeds." She does not see beyond herself, nor is she sympathetic of others. She is one of those people where it is "me, me, me" all the time. That kid hurt HER. Not that she INCITED him.
ReplyDeleteShe is playing with fire. Once her core followers realize that she is a fraud and that Trig is not her baby, I am afraid that one of them will really become unhinged.
I truly believe that the sheer weight of the lies is getting to her. She is very screechy and manic. I don't even doubt that she does drugs to numb out those pesky thoughts like fear, insecurity or if you can believe it guilt. Yea, I know, it was hard for me to write that too. This restraining order is the one thing that is somewhat "true." Something she can stand behind and not like the multiple other LIES she tells on a daily basis.
You hear of all these judgmental, horrible people all the time. They fight for their blind cause, yet in the background, they lead very destructive lives. It's the weight of the fraud, cruelty and lies that does them in.
When's the big announcement, Gryphen??
ReplyDeleteOne thing that can be done is exposing those who wield these torches of hate. I've had one of these Palin drones contact me directly on Facebook, calling me a "nigger lover", "fag" etc for writing less than flattering, but truthful accounting of Palin and her ways on her FB page. I've got screenshots of the entire conversation, and his "friends" list. Wouldn't his friends and family love to know who he really is? How about the entire blogosphere? I think so.
ReplyDeleteWhen they reveal themselves, expose them.
@12:18 p.m.:
ReplyDeleteI have been accused of being an America-hating communist in addition to being called a Muslim lover, a welfare recipient, a hater of Caucasians, a Kumbya granny for believing that different races can and should live in peaceful co-existence.
I have also been called a black nationalist. This nonsense has all come from the same nutbag I cited in my earlier post, and it's a good indicator of the intelligence level of the typical Palinbot. People like that are truly unstable and mentally disturbed, which makes them a clear danger. There is no reasoning with them, and it will probably take the harshest kind of a reality check to wake them up.
"Twitler",
ReplyDeleteYour Histrionic Personality Disorder is showing itself again......
I was up at the crack of dawn looking for your big announcement. I've just about worn my laptop out checking to see if it's there and each time I've been disappointed!!!Please don't let us down, Gryphen....
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone think the leader of courageous, commonsense, constitution-luvin' Americans thinks there is anything to apologize for? Heck no, they are on a mission.
ReplyDeleteExample. I live in a suburban community where there is a group (now loyal to Sarah) who used to show up to demonstrate against union activities or anything they thought might be related to ACORN. Local high school kids took advantange and left a pile of acorns at a flagpole and notified the group who scrambled a demo team. We adults kept our snickers to dull roar.
Same group now shows up to defend Sarah (weirdly off topic) at union activities and anthing that might have been claimed by ACORN. I can see them CB'ing each other (oh, yes) and giving the GPS coordinates of this addled stalker. She has unleashed the worst kind. They only think they have common sense.
There are situations when a public figure and or elebrity has no responsiblity if a fan/follower completely independently commits some heinious act or threat.
ReplyDeleteSomeone including Sarah Palin who intentionally lies to smear a person to foster hate and fear in baseless false allegations to recruit people to her side and turn them against her target is responsible for their predatory words.
When I called the FBI (yup, I sure did) in 2008 to file a complaint against Palin and McCain the FBI officer said they can do nothing until there is physical violence.
It is going to take a bashed head and not bashed windows by a Palinbot. The brainwasher is as guilty as the person engaged in the lies who act out destructively.
It is the truth a person can't even give correct information e.g. Palin did not get the pipeline she boasted of built without being labled a "hater".
It appears Palin suffers from 'depraved indifference' and only cares if she "wins" even if other people lives, families are destroyed or even they are murdered. People like Palin get off on pitting people against one another feeling powerful gaining sadistic pleasure.
Palin won't tell anyone to stand down for no one else matters but her.
When this woman runs for president I hope Alaskans of good conscience will find the courage to tell their stories.
ReplyDeleteWow! That feather lift that she had was a bad choice. Awful picture.
ReplyDeleteSo, the 'bots respond to a few vaguely disturbing comments by one poor delusional SP fanboy - by issuing death threats against him themselves? That's some moral high ground!
ReplyDeleteHypocritical morons.
That picture of her is really scary - I mean REALLY scary.
ReplyDeleteHas anyone ever checked behind her ear to see if there is a 666 there?
I have a picture of Sarah that looks like she has a chip implanted in her neck.
I no no longer have an internet site for the picture, but if Gryphen requests, I can email it to him.
Palin takes the hatred and threats of violence coming from her supporters as an example of their devotion to her. She basks in it and will do nothing to tone it down. She's just stupid enough to think that any publicity/attention, even if it's negative, is good PR. I remember how Beck tried to distance himself from the guy in CA who was headed to the Tides Foundation with enough guns to supply a small army. Had the police officers not stopped him, he'd have killed some innocent people. Beck acted as if he'd had nothing to do with firing up this man to take action against the organization, even though he spent weeks maligning the Tides Foundation. He started attacking the Tides Foundation again last week by telling his viewers that the organization wants to "indoctrinate your children."
ReplyDeleteI do wish people like Andrew Sullivan would be courageous enough to tell the truth. This is the only way that Palin will be stopped. Gryphen, you are performing a much-needed public service in your work to expose the real Palin to the world, and I'm very thankful for the work you do.
OT: Hey, any word on why Queen Esther never went to England to meet Margaret Thatcher? What happened with that?
ReplyDeleteFYI This isn't an angry Palin pic. It is Sarah engaged in a sexual seduction. I believe this was taken during the 2008 election when she was on her whirlwind tour to meet foreign dignitaries. Note how sexually suggestive her eyes and lips are. This is how she fakes her way through situations where she is out of her depth.
ReplyDeleteI notice that Hammerofthor a.k.a. RAM, is still out from under her rock and continues to post the ongoing lies defending her 'dream lust' on Huffington (Geoffrey Dunn article)
ReplyDeleteI would love to know how many hits your blog had today Gryphen! You're killing us here man!
ReplyDeleteAnd yes, she's a pathetic non-Christian. Another poster nailed it - Bristol who? COD who?
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Ref:"It is time for Sarah Palin to take responsibilty for the hatred and threats of violence coming from her supporters!"
ReplyDeleteGryphen, She can't take responsibility. If she did, then that would be the same as admitting she is at the root of all the hate and violence. She doesn't believe she is doing anything wrong. She is always right.
Sarah taking responsibility is an oxymoron isn't it?
ReplyDelete"We are waiting Ms. Palin. When will you finally take responsibility for the violence you inspire?"
ReplyDeleteSorry Gryph, she doesn't "do" responsibility.
Hatred is the Tundra Turd's life blood.
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