Thursday, January 20, 2011

I might owe Levi Johnston an apology.

E Online:

And this rumor has traction. It was seemingly started by none other than Bristol herself, when she reportedly posted a message on her private Facebook page, simply reading, "Tripp Easton Mitchell Palin…PALIN!!!" No Johnston in sight.

Then, a supposed source close to the couple weighed in, alleging that Johnston had agreed to the name change on the condition that it would excuse him from paying any more child support. Class act, if true. But is it? Press pause on that blood libel video, this rumor is...

So false!

At least, for now.

A source close to the political fam denied the report to E! News, and indeed the message seems to have been removed from Bristol's Facebook page (if that even was Bristol's Facebook page...fakes abound on the social network).

"It's false," the source said. And for now, at least, the court records bearing Tripp's name—that's Tripp Johnston's name—bear that out.

A court official in Palmer, Alaska, confirms to E! News that no legal petition to change the 2-year-old's name has been filed. And while Bristol has an open custody action in the state, she has not filed a civil action to request the name change.

I don't know who this source is that is "close" to the family but I finally received a text back from Mercede that says she asked Levi and that he has no idea what is going on and he did not sign , or agree, to anything.

So as of right now Tripp is still a "Johnston" and it sounds like if Levi has anything to say about it, and he does, that is the way it will stay.

However I also did some checking and it sounds like Bristol has been saying this to people as if it is a fact, which is why I fell for it.

When I contacted Sadie yesterday she was surprised and pissed, but had not yet talked to Levi so did not know if he had actually done this. 

But what is also confusing is that there has been no legal change to Bristol and Levi's custody agreement either, yet from what I keep hearing Bristol is in Arizona playing house with Gino and Tripp.  Since Levi has not raised a stink about that I guess you can see why I thought perhaps he had laid down and let them walk over him this time as well.

But anyhow, I was wrong, and I apologize to you Levi.

And by the way buddy, don't let ANYBODY tell you that you can't beat the Palins in court.  Because yes you can!

Seriously if you are not sure, just reach out to Sadie and have her contact me and I PROMISE you we will keep your son in Alaska and that your time with Tripp will be enforced.  I went through the same battle when my ex-wife tried to take my little girl away and I know exactly what the courts want from you and how to prove that you are an important part of Tripp's life.

P.S. Did anybody else notice that Bristol's Facebook page is down after Mercede's smackdown yesterday?

Like I said the Palins CAN be beaten.

144 comments:

  1. Anonymous2:25 PM

    This is good news.

    You are a good man, Gryphen, to admit a mistake and to set the record straight.

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  2. Anonymous2:27 PM

    So if the NE got this wrong, why would the story on Todd have any more credibility? I think they blew it if they expect to be taken seriously on the rest of their "series" about Todd's indiscretions.

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  3. Anonymous2:28 PM

    Uh shocker...the NE printed something that was not true. have to say i told ya so. please unleash the real burg(s), with proof!

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  4. Facebook Lurker2:29 PM

    Ha! You're right, she must have been told to take it down in light of all the "scandals". I noticed that Bristol has not even updated or posted on her official page since Christmas. Too busy playing house with Gino in Arizona, is right.

    You see folks, each of these things that is happening now has all been foreshadowed on this blog (and a select few others) about the Palin implosion. Sarah did more damage to herself with her blood libel video than we could ever do, but these subsequent problems will just keep chipping away at the phony facade.

    Oh what a tangled web they weave....

    Sarah, you're best bet now is to sit down

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  5. Anonymous2:30 PM

    If he gave up his rights, it would save him time and aggravation. Its not as if his world revolves around a child he rarely sees, and he's barely hit majority. Frankly, moving on with his life, absent any legal connection to the Palins, would be the best thing he could do.

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  6. Anonymous2:30 PM

    Anonymous 2:27 PM. I don't think that is necessarily true. When Levi had the chance to set the record straight, he did. Sarah has Facebook, Hell, even Twitter, at her fingertips. She could have tweeted, "Lies," if she wanted to. Nada. The silence says it all.

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  7. Anonymous2:31 PM

    Disinformation is a key component of the Palin PR strategy. It seems that Bristol has taken up the strategy as well. This is a very disturbed bunch.

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  8. Yeah I knew when I wrote this that somebody would compare it to the Todd Palin hooker story in order to challenge its validity.

    However in THAT case I have already confirmed much of it on my own, so I KNOW it is accurate.

    The reason that NE has it first is because they have deep pockets and can pay handsomely for a story. Once they have their exclusive and their contract runs out there will be other media that will have access to the principals involved.

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  9. Anonymous2:34 PM

    Please have Levi get a DNA test. Bristol has "been around the block" with so many guys, who knows WHO the father might be? Tripp looks SO MUCH like Chuck, it is erie.

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  10. Anonymous2:34 PM

    Good on you, Mr. Gryphen, for being a decent, kind-hearted man, and father, and for looking out for Levi and Sadie, as if they were your own. They're lucky to have you.

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  11. womanwithsardinecan2:36 PM

    Sounds like the "spokesperson" and "role model" needs to go on some meds. I don't normally pick on 20 year olds (before the Palins stomped into my life), since I was a complete moron at that age, but Bristle is really getting on my nerves. She's got mama's me me me thing down pat, not to mention the hickbitch from hell routine. She's an adult. She has money, power, and brai...oh wait, forget that last one. Flippin' fame whore.

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  12. Anonymous2:38 PM

    Methinks they noticed everyone saying
    it is because Tripp isn't Levi's.

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  13. Anonymous2:39 PM

    Good for you, Gryphen.

    As to NE being wrong, this was a setup by $arah & co. to attempt to discount the other story.

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  14. Anonymous2:41 PM

    "You are a good man, Gryphen, to admit a mistake and to set the record straight."

    I feel the same. No wonder I love this blog so much.

    Things could work out for Tripp and the Johnstons.

    Yes, I noticed that Bristol's Facebook page is down after Mercede's smackdown yesterday. I hope Dr. Laura's friends don't get rid of it like what they did for Deryk Schlessinger.

    It is not the first time Bristol's internet behavior crossed a line. Remember Sarah supported what Bristol and Willow did to the boy from Wasilla.

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  15. Anonymous2:42 PM

    I'm glad to see this Gryphen. I wrote yesterday because I was upset at the negative directed at Levi and mentioned that we are not walking in his shoes!

    Glad to see you offered him your help too....

    Both of you are good people!

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  16. Anonymous2:43 PM

    For Sarah Palin, the Bad News Just Keeps Coming

    Now, though, Palin is facing a situation that may prove to be the most damaging yet.

    A national news magazine, the National Enquirer, is reporting that Palin's husband Todd, has been having an affair with Anchorage area massage therapist... a therapist who was arrested in 2010 for prostitution. While the National Enquirer still carries a bit of a stigma in terms of reliability, it has made in recent years been the first to report other sex scandal stories before the rest of the media does. It reported, for example, on both the John Edwards and Tiger Woods stories first, and is no longer dismissed out of hand.

    In fact, the Enquirer says it has discovered official documents confirming the arrest of the masseuse, and that police have evidence that could tie Todd Palin to the alleged extramarital affair.

    While an extramarital affair is no longer considered to be fatal to a presidential campaign the way it was, for example, in 1984 when Gary Hart was proven to be having an affair, if the story takes off, it could prove to be a devastating blow to Palin's chances.

    Just as Palin begins putting out feelers in Iowa, which is one of the first stops in a presidential campaign, she is going to struggle to be taken seriously on a national stage. Palin, after all, runs on a very conservative platform that preaches family and faith. Shortly after being selected as John McCain's running mate in 2008, Palin announced that her daughter, Bristol, was pregnant out of wedlock. While her base stood by her through that, the seemingly endless controversies surrounding the Palin family, if not stopped, would seem to eventually present a problem for Palin that will be too difficult to overcome.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20110120/pl_ac/7659238_for_sarah_palin_the_bad_news_just_keeps_coming

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  17. Anonymous2:45 PM

    Anon @2:27.

    Well gee. Maybe the name change story was planted by someone so they could say, "why would the story on Todd have any more credibility?" It's called muddying the waters, trying to throw off the scent, etc. etc.

    Ohiovoter

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  18. London Bridges2:47 PM

    Perhaps Bristol's Facebook page was removed by Facebook for contract (civility)violations???

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  19. Anonymous2:48 PM

    This website is the definition of a clusterfuck.

    It's impossible to figure out who is more stupid, you or the dipshit yahoos who cling to your every word.

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  20. Anonymous2:48 PM

    http://www.hotmommagossip.com/2011/01/20/tabloids-claim-that-sarah-palins-husband-in-illicit-affair-seems-thin-so-far/sarah-palin-and-todd-palin/

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  21. Anonymous2:54 PM

    So someone knew the Todd Scandal was coming out and they planted a baby story about Levi on the N.E. also. The story about the name change was to make sure someone verified it and when it came out false well then it would appear that the Todd story was false also.

    Someone is doing a dirty job of smearing Levi and a little boy in order to cover up the Todd Palin story. Well someone came on here yesterday and said they worked in P.R. and that they would do this in order to make it more important than Todd's scandal.

    I now wonder if the person who said they worked in PR is none other than the creature ram.

    The PR comment was made yesterday on the story about the name change, I think.

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  22. Anonymous2:58 PM

    Sarah Palin's Enforcer

    The right's favorite lightning rod doesn't bother defending herself against critics. That job falls to Rebecca Mansour, an ex-Hollywood screenwriter with sharp teeth.

    A Lebanese American who grew up in Michigan, Mansour, who is in her mid-thirties, is a former Hollywood screenwriter who felt so strongly about Palin-whom she'd never met-that she founded the website Conservatives4Palin. Originally hired to help with Palin's famous Facebook page, Mansour says on her Twitter feed that she is speaking only for herself. But she whacks Palin's detractors with such thumb-in-the-eye passion as to make her boss seem downright diplomatic.

    There are the "puppy-kickers" and "porn producers" at Politico. The "liar" at the Associated Press who said Palin provided no press access on her visit to Haiti except for Fox News. The "semi-literate buffoons at MSNBC." The "mouth-breathing loon" Aaron Sorkin. The Maureen Dowd column that chided Palin for shooting a caribou on her TLC show that was "so stupid I thought it came from The Onion."

    There is more, plenty more: The "ridiculous HuffPo piece" on Palin's Alaska record. The "false assumptions" by a Mediaite blogger "in your latest Palin rant." The "goofy" Alaska blogger who suffers from "Palin derangement." A mildly positive Time cover story, which included an email interview with Palin, drew this retort: "Every other line in this Time piece gibberish."

    Mansour accused The Daily Beast's Shushanna Walshe, co-author of a book about Palin, of "complete and utter nonsense" and "taking passages totally out of context" after excerpts of Palin's latest book were leaked-charges that Walshe disputed in a Twitter dialogue with Mansour.

    http://bltwy.msnbc.msn.com/politics/sarah-palins-enforcer-1672024.story

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  23. Anonymous3:00 PM

    A source close to the political fam denied the report to E! News, and indeed the message seems to have been removed from Bristol's Facebook page.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::

    The story on Todd getting his jollies some where else must be true. The Palins are not on Enews denying that story? Methinks that Todd is still in hiding because of the scandal.

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  24. Anonymous3:02 PM

    Sarah Palin's Worst Poll Yet, Unfavorable With 56% Of Americans

    http://www.neontommy.com/news/2011/01/sarah-palins-worst-poll-yet-unfavorable-56-americans

    FOX claims that due to the volume of news topics their booker mistakenly canceled Joan's appearance, but they are in the process of booking her on an upcoming show. Today, a spokesperson told the Daily News if "Joan doesn't want to come on the morning program where she was invited to push her next project that's no problem. We have plenty of people begging for a spot."

    "This is called damage control and they are out-and-out liars," says Joan. "I would like to take a lie detector test. I think it would make great reality television. I wish our show, which is coming on the air now, I wish this was one of the episodes. Let's get them in and on FOX let's take a lie detector test."

    "I'm not a huge fan, but it's not something I really spend most of my day thinking about," says Melissa of Palin. As for whether or not she believes the crosshairs on Palin's site can be linked to the Tucson shooting, she says, "You just have to be careful. Words do incite emotions. It's like yelling 'Fire!' in a crowded theater. You're not supposed to do it."

    Joan adds, "As Howard Stern said today so brilliantly, 'If they took Bristol Palin's face and put it on the Internet with crosshairs and gave her address, I think Sarah Palin would have had something to say about that.' The hypocrisy gets me crazy on every level."

    http://www.etonline.com/tv/106680_Joan_Rivers_vs_Sarah_Palin_The_New_War_of_Words/

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  25. Anonymous3:03 PM

    Drag Queen Lady Bunny Puts a Bouffant-Sized Target on Sarah Palin's Head

    http://www.observer.com/2011/culture/drag-queen-lady-bunny-puts-bouffant-sized-target-sarah-palins-head-watch

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  26. Anonymous3:04 PM

    Is ther any proof that Tripp is in Arizona with the Brisket?

    It is a lot more fun playing house without a toddler running around let alone all of the nannies need to care for the child.

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  27. In most states, to include this one, a custodial parent cannot move a child out of state without either the permission of the non custodial parent, or by court order. I really hope Levi decides to be a dad (anyone can father a child, but only a real man can be a dad), and start insisting on his visitations, and have Bristol charged with contempt for each denial of visitation. Levi needs to start keeping track of any and all deviations from the court order on Bristol's part. Tripp deserves to have contact with all of his family, not just his mother's (and some might argue that in itself is child abuse).

    My husband went through a nightmare of trying to be a dad to his daughter (what is it with some of these women alienating their children from their dads?), and he did not give up. It's expensive and heart wrenching, but entirely worth it, as any dad who has been able to obtain a relationship with a child he loves will tell you.

    I'm so glad this report is wrong.

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  28. O/T but related:

    http://www.ajc.com/news/ga-man-awarded-404-809868.html

    The anonymous poster went on a community website for Blairsville, where Cooley lived at the time, and accused him of being a pedophile with a criminal record and a drug addict. None of it was true.

    A Union County jury last week said the damage those postings did to Cooley was worth $404,000, the largest award ever handed down in this North Georgia county. The poster was identified through her computer's numeric IP address.

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  29. Anonymous3:10 PM

    She complains the media won't tell her side of the story, yet she firmly declines most requests for interviews. She argues that her political foes are trying to silence her. Even though that's not only not true, I'm not sure that it is even possible. She dismisses anyone in the "lamestream" media at the same time that she is apparently making 90% of her income from being in the mainstream media.

    If she feels as if she is beginning to lost the public debate, she'll pop up on some conservative radio show to renew her complaints. If things are really going badly, she'll appear on Fox News, where she'll face tough questions along the lines of "How does it feel to face such criticism?"

    In other words, Palin is the Internet troll of today's mass media world. She is not interested in having a serious intellectual discussion. She runs away from questions about her beliefs and has managed to turn every criticism into more proof that she is somehow being persecuted. And when things get too tough, she falls silent again until she senses interest in her is beginning to wane. Then she puts on her troll persona and starts it all again.

    http://www.allyourtv.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2433&catid=2433

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  30. Molly3:10 PM

    As I posted on your last Levi post, I ALWAYS side with Levi over any Palins, and I wasn't buying the story until I saw proof.

    So thanks, on behalf of Levi, for apologizing.

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  31. Anonymous3:13 PM

    Gryph,

    The comment about working for a PR firm is made on the story

    Levi is an Idiot - comment is at 6:08 p.m.

    Strange that someone made that comment and then the name change is not right.

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  32. Anonymous3:13 PM

    2:27 PM

    The Bristol NE story comes from Bristol's Facebook, the personal one with a Gino and Tripp profile picture. SCREEN GRAB Bristol wrote: “Tripp Easton Mitchell Palin… PALIN!!!”

    BRISTOL PALIN NAME GAME

    "A source told The ENQUIRER" and "stated an insider" ( NO NAMES )went on to say vicious libelous things about Levi. The NE reported from Bristol's words and those of her friends that are too cowardly to give their names. You would have to ask the Enquirer if they pursued the story or if they got a tip. It could very well be someone with a motive that was setting this story up to get at Levi.

    Levi will roll over and not pursue a libel, vicious intent or whatever case against the cowards that told the Enquirer tose lies to go along with Bristol's Facebook.

    Palin's DO NOT RETREAT. There is no way that Bristol just volunteered to close down her Facebook that she had been building up for months. I doubt if it was Sarah Pac that convinced her to turn it off. Facebook is probably looking into her on-line activity.

    To have a post about Tripp's name at the same time friends back up a story to print is pretty obvious she is misusing Facebook and other media to do great harm to someone.

    Todd's revelations are a very different matter.

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  33. Anonymous3:13 PM

    Bristol's FB page

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bristol-Palin/109696302423164?v=wall#!/pages/Bristol-Palin/109696302423164?v=wall

    46,000+ followers

    How many do you have?

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  34. Anonymous3:21 PM

    YEAH GRYPH! You are the best! I did think this was a distraction for what was about to come, but have to comment that you're an absolute gentleman!

    T

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  35. Anonymous3:22 PM

    Anon 2:48, my, don't you sound intelligent and articulate too!! Did you pass the 6th grade?
    Would you marry me? There's nothing more believable and impressive than a well-spoken intellectual like you

    Kisses, xoxoxo

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  36. Anonymous3:22 PM

    Yes they can, Gryphen! And it's probably going to get ugly, lurid, all of that and more. Folks who wish we could bring Sarah down in a courtroom may possibly have to let go of that notion, for it is in the court of public opinion that her destiny mostly awaits. (If they charge her with federal crimes someday, well, call me wrong.)

    You are a good guy to correct the record re Levi, and it's good also to clarify things for people. I think it's easy to get mixed up about where things were first published: NE vs. E! News vs. Bristol Palin's Twitter or Facebook or whatever else. Difficult to know what sources are trustworthy.

    You da man, Gryphen, with the real connections. No scholarly (not that you couldn't) essays on obliquely related topics for you - just what matters, when it matters. No point is too humble for your consideration, and that, my friend, is how we will stop her.

    Whatever it takes, Gryphen, whatever it takes.

    She came along on a wave of stupid crap (Bill Kristol jumped off his cruise ship to have a brunch and drool over her), why not go out that way as well? This is Sarah Palin. She's not truly great, she has done nothing of worth, she deserves no special treatment. Just run her out of town, that's all I care about!

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  37. Anonymous3:22 PM

    Anonymous said...
    Anon @2:27.

    Well gee. Maybe the name change story was planted by someone so they could say, "why would the story on Todd have any more credibility?" It's called muddying the waters, trying to throw off the scent, etc. etc.

    Ohiovoter

    2:45 PM

    The scent remains on Todd. Sarah Palin is so paranoid that if Todd steps outside to take out the trash, when he comes back into the house Sarahs sniffs his johnson for foreign pootang.

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  38. Anonymous3:23 PM

    People have different states of maturity. Levi is a dumbass. He got pulled in with the Palins and then dumped. His best bet is to go to vocational school and head up north. The Palins kind of ruined him. He didnt start out with a whole lot either. He just doesnt have the sophistication necessary to take care of himself yet.

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  39. Can she apply for the baby's name change in a different state, like Arizona?

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  40. Anonymous3:24 PM

    When proof comes out about Todd and the hookers, I hope Levi shouts out a big "See...I wasn't lying" about the Palins marital situation. Separate bedrooms, fights, spending little family time together...it all falls into place with the breaking story.

    Levi, now that you have your credibility back, why not tell EVERYTHING you know about the Palins?

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  41. Anonymous3:27 PM

    Perhaps Bristol's Facebook page was removed by Facebook for contract (civility)violations???

    London Bridges

    I am certain that was it. No way would Bristol give that up that fast.

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  42. Anonymous3:33 PM

    As a way to explain how the baby name story got around so fast:
    Some media outlets, like certain gossip sites, will publish something with very shallow sourcing. Example: starlet wants publicity; lets paparazzi know she'll be at an event with her hot new man; gets snapped with him; pics go around; contact at site calls starlet; she confirms relationship, gives nice quote about how he's into her and bam, story and picture goes on site. "Starlet X is seeing Hotboy - and an insider says it's serious!"
    So someone in the biz who gets paid to monitor FB and Twitter accounts of celebs minor and major caught this on BP's page, called around and got someone "close" (how close? your guess!) to BP to say Levi was too cheap to pay child support. Of course no 'real' journalistic source ran with this story because it's obviously fake (ie you can't trade a last name for cash).
    NYTC

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  43. Anonymous3:34 PM

    The illiteracy of some people is amusing.

    The FB page you linked is her public Facebook page/not her private one.

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  44. Anonymous3:38 PM

    My money's on 'Bristol deleted her facebook' like Willow deleted hers. To avoid bullshit drama and people who stalk

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  45. Anonymous3:39 PM

    When are you going to apologize for spreading the BRistol pregnancy rumor

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  46. Anonymous3:40 PM

    I will comment that one of the last things Bristol did on facebook was comment on her aunts page about the "sarah palin hymn" video that you posted here. her family thinks it's pretty funny and spot on

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  47. Anonymous3:44 PM

    where are you getting that SArah supported bristol and willow's facebook fight? the only time she mentioned it was on greta and she actually took responsibility for it. I think willow having to delete her page showed sarah did not approve

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  48. Anonymous3:46 PM

    putting crosshairs over faces is COMPLETELY different from putting them over target districts.

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  49. Anonymous3:48 PM

    To 3:13P.M.
    so Bristol has some 43,000 so called friends.( doesn't she think just a little, they may be just looking, to see just how stupid she can be?( sometime friends are not really friends Bristol dear!)
    Then i forget, you have a TITLE! You are so important and special, all others must bow before your presence.

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  50. Anonymous3:49 PM

    Palin for President? Forget It

    No one with a 59 percent unfavorability rating among independents has the chance of a snowball in Hell of being elected President. 2012 will be a vitally important election year; it is no time for a kamikaze Presidential campaign or for a cult of personality. Republicans (and conservatives) need a candidate who has a chance to win against an incumbent who, despite everything, is not particularly unpopular and who won't be able to do much visible damage between now and then.

    http://powerlineblog.com/archives/2011/01/028170.php

    Why America is growing tired of Palin

    ...Now, something is changing. Her staunch supporters are still there, to be sure, but Republicans are getting antsy, even nervous. In GOP circles, she's beginning to be seen as toxic in any presidential race. The whispers (which have always been there among the establishment) are starting to become public.

    The editorial page editor of The Washington Examiner -- which defended Palin in the 2008 campaign -- opines about the "public exhaustion" with Palin. Mark Tapscott notes how Palin "has been here, there and everywhere for several months" and how "too much of a good thing becomes a bad thing when there is no escaping the good thing." Exactly.

    Even the politicians, ever the lagging indicator, are starting see some benefit in chipping away at the Palin veneer. After all, there's now a sense that she's maxed out. There's nothing she can say anymore to woo new people who are not already in her corner.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/01/20/borger.palin.fatigue/

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  51. Anonymous3:53 PM

    3:13. that logic makes NO sense

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  52. Anonymous3:55 PM

    Sarah Palin bottom lines it:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D33l9KJAUY&feature=player_embedded#at=16

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  53. Anonymous3:57 PM

    MY friend has two kids with a former wife who lives 3 states away. Because she's an utter bitch, she dropped child support on him like 6 yrs after they divorced. He currently has 3 kids under 4, a shitty sous chef job, andhas to pay like 1000 bucks to this bitch ever month.

    so yes, child support occurs even if the kid isn't in the same state as the father and the mother can conitnue to move

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  54. Anonymous3:59 PM

    Todd is super busy with the iron dog right now. I think it's good he's busy, away from all this

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  55. Anonymous4:00 PM

    A swing and a miss for Sarah Palin

    Still, the Arizona shootings and their aftermath will probably be remembered as the end of Palin's chances of being taken seriously as a Republican presidential candidate. She had an opportunity to rise to an occasion, and she whiffed.

    Palin's viability as a presidential candidate had already been diminishing. The decline started with her abrupt resignation from her day job as governor of Alaska in 2009. Last year, one of massive success for conservative Republicans almost everywhere, she had the almost unique distinction among major GOP figures of seeing her standing plummet.

    That was true long before the tragedy in Arizona revived a once minor controversy over Palin's rhetoric in last year's campaign, when she urged her followers to "reload'' and produced a map of select Democratic congressional districts, including Giffords', marked by cross-hairs.

    http://www.herald-review.com/news/opinion/article_5fbe919e-2000-11e0-a454-001cc4c002e0.html

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  56. Anonymous4:01 PM

    bristol hates drama. she also didnt live on facebook. this summer she hardly posted except to reply to people and posted a couple random pics

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  57. Anonymous4:02 PM

    Palin turns tragedy into an `All About Sarah' show

    In the spirit of civil discourse, I'd like to humbly suggest that Sarah Palin please consider being quiet for a while.

    Perhaps a great while.

    At the risk of being bold, I might observe that her faux-presidential address about the Tucson massacre seemed to fall somewhat flat, drawing comparisons to the least attractive public moments of such figures as Richard Nixon and Spiro Agnew. I could go so far as to observe that Palin almost seemed to portray herself as a collateral victim. Surely a former governor of Alaska - who served the better part of an entire term - would never seek to give the impression that she views any conceivable event, no matter how distant or tragic, as being All About Sarah.

    Yet this is the unfortunate impression that Palin's videotaped peroration seems to have left. I am at a loss to recommend any course of corrective action other than an extended period of abstinence from Facebook, Twitter and other social networking sites.

    http://www.dailybreeze.com/ci_17120683

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  58. Anonymous4:04 PM

    Why are people so rude to strangers? Be civil

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  59. Anonymous4:04 PM

    Sarah Palin proves -- again -- that she is a terrible politician

    Sarah Palin didn't retreat. She reloaded. And she proved, again, that she is a ruinously incompetent politician.

    Over the weekend, liberal pundits overeagerly speculated that she may have inspired the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.). After learning more about alleged shooter Jared Loughner, many of those same commentators restrained their criticism of the former Alaska governor, and polls showed that Americans are skeptical of any connection. People recognized Palin had been unfairly implicated in the Arizona massacre. She didn't even have to mention it in her response to the tragedy and the resulting debate. Everyone would have been thinking it. Even her critics would have had some sympathy.

    This was political T-ball. All she needed to do was acknowledge the tragedy, condemn violence and praise unity in times of national crisis. If she really had to, she could gently warn Americans not to let partisanship color their reactions to public tragedy. She would be praised for her restraint, and with reason; for once, she would have been the more adult party in the debate.

    Instead, she decided to appear partisan and opportunistic. As Greg Sargent notes, she accused her enemies of acting in bad faith. Not only that, she, somehow, raised the rhetorical stakes by charging her opponents with manufacturing a "blood libel," language associated with centuries of anti-Semitic murder. I bet she didn't know the historical genesis of the phrase. Which merely makes her recklessly careless in a time of national mourning. And she rejected any notion that her overheated rhetoric was ever overheated -- by using yet more overheated rhetoric about her opponents, who "mock" America by "muzzling" her First Amendment rights. Most of America is willing to let you say what you want, Ms. Palin, but we don't have to like it.

    Any sympathy she built up outside of the 30 percent of the country automatically loyal to her disappeared. She looked vindictive, lacking the maturity to restrain the nastiness and innuendo that typically punctuates her rhetoric.

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2011/01/sarah_palin_proves_again_what.html?wprss=postpartisan

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  60. I'm glad to hear the 'little Tripp name-change' rumor is false. It's just crazy illogical for anyone to conclude that one false rumor proves another one is false. But the Palinbots will sure try their best.

    I'm looking forward to NE or other outlet taking the Todd story completely out of the rumor category and reporting on it as unequivocal fact.

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  61. Anonymous4:06 PM

    3:13 PM

    Rebecca Mansour is "very new-media-oriented."
    Read what Rebecca Mansour does
    "— she founded the website Conservatives4Palin. Originally hired to help with Palin’s famous Facebook page, Mansour says on her Twitter feed that she is speaking only for herself."

    Matthew Continetti, a Weekly Standard reporter and the author of The Persecution of Sarah Palin, calls Mansour “a new model of spokesperson—very new-media-oriented and much more combative than any typical spokesperson. That world has become something of a black box—every so often it releases a particle of information.”

    "very new-media-oriented"
    Mansour has learned from the best techs
    http://techrepublican.com/
    http://davidallgroup.com

    This is the help that Bristol has going for her like when they teamed with the Tea Party to get her those high numbers for DWTS. I know they told you it was that everybody liked her for being a hard worker. Not exactly, she had a lot of help from the "very new-media-oriented" and Ivy Frye Valley Tea Party types.

    It is the same with her very corporate and commercial Facebook nonsense. The number of followers don't mean that much when you think of how she got them.

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  62. Anonymous4:08 PM

    The conversation about Sarah Palin's official post-Arizona statement: She really messed this one up

    http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla/2011/01/sarah-palin-blood-libel-remarks-tucson-arizona-.html?cid=6a00d8341c7de353ef0147e1851e69970b

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  63. London Bridges4:11 PM

    putting crosshairs over faces is COMPLETELY different from putting them over target districts.

    3:46 PM

    Sorry Trolly, but Sarah's graphic ha Congresswoman Gifford's name listed.

    How is it different?

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  64. Anon@ 2:48:
    Like you dipshits who cling to every stupid sermon that comes out of $arah's mouth?
    And I agree with the poster that suggested that the Levi story was a plant to discredit the Toad's story.
    BTW trolls. IF the story isn't true, let's see the Palin's take NE to court. Wanna bet that they won't? Something about telling the truth is unknownst to the Palins.

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  65. Anonymous4:16 PM

    what's interesting is, Todd's garage is now at home. he doesn't have to travel to work on his irondog stuff. and kids' friends are always over at the house. Things must not be too bad or true

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  66. Anonymous4:21 PM

    Booooooooyaw Bristol, Sarah and Todd. Your little plan to ruin Levi and distract everyone else from the REAL NEWS on your family.

    Thanks for this post Gryphen. I'm one of those that said you might be coming down too hard on Levi if he knew he wasn't Tripp's father.

    The Palins are a disgusting bunch. So now there's actual proof for poor little Tripp to have thrown in his face someday that his Mother repeatedly tried disparaging his father in front of the entire world with planted stories and lies all created by her and her very sick Mother.

    Very, very, very sad. Hope Levi save proof of this and takes it back to court. This is proof full time placement with his Mother might be detrimental to his mental health and happiness.

    Sick people those Palins are. Babies are obviously just objects to them. Wonder if Bristol realizes her Mother used her the same way she's using Tripp.

    Sick to do this to a child. Just sick!

    DootDid

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  67. Anonymous4:22 PM

    Him 2:48 and 3:13 - is that you Bristol? or Willow? or Sarah?

    The language you use has a familiar ring to it and the tone a familiar feel - ah yes, even a familiar fragrance - eau de trailer trash.

    If you are simply protecting people you believe in, you would attract more sympathy if you used a civil approach.

    If you are attacking people because you are offended by them, at least don't be offensive yourself.

    Just saying.

    Oh, and for the person asking G why he hasn't apologized about the Bristol pregnancy rumor - well, he didn't start it and most everyone with eyes and experience drew their own (and same) conclusion. G has nothing to apologize for on that score because Bristol has apparently secluded herself. Everyone is speculating. Sorry.

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  68. Anonymous4:23 PM

    Bristol is an adult. Have you ever known anyone with Social Media problems? It is like an alcoholic. They don't think they have a problem. They don't just give something up. If Bristol is on her own in Arizona with Gino, she didn't instantly give it up. If she is in Alaska, possibly they took it from her. More like Facebook has to look at what she has done. She and Willow should have been treated like other people children when they were doing the hate speech and stalking.

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  69. Anonymous4:24 PM

    Anonymous said...

    "putting crosshairs over faces is COMPLETELY different from putting them over target districts."

    3:46 PM

    I believe the argument is that people cannot be incited to violence, so why would it matter what the crosshairs are on? BTW- The districts are represented by PEOPLE, with faces!

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  70. Anonymous4:28 PM

    Thank you Gryphen.
    I am once again amused...
    especially by the trolls!

    Please continue to have Levi's back, no matter what. He really could use the support you could give him. Whether or not he acknowledges it.

    Too bad for the bots that everyone is siding with Levi over Bristle. I see a new trend coming in that area. Bristle has screwed up whatever goodwill people had for her.

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  71. Anonymous4:29 PM

    I found this on Bristol's public facebook page. I read many here asking if Bristol is in AZ.

    This lady and her daughters say she is.

    ******************

    Kate Riessbeck Fannin

    Welcome to Maricopa Bristol :)
    My girls and I walked past you tonight in the bread Aisle. My 10 year old was begging me to turn around so we could say hi, but you were on the phone. Have a great rest of the week!
    January 11 at 10:09pm ·

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  72. Bristol's facebook is up Bristol Sheeran http://www.facebook.com/people/Bristol-Sheeran/100001909603067

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  73. Anonymous4:35 PM

    >>>I will comment that one of the last things Bristol did on facebook was comment on her aunts page about the "sarah palin hymn" video that you posted here. her family thinks it's pretty funny and spot on

    3:40 PM


    Is this really true?
    Where can this be seen?

    Did someone save it?

    A number of people commented that there were racist meanings to the
    words Sarah is going to Washington to hunt some skunks.

    It obviously is not about shooting food for the table.

    The phrase seemed inappropriate after the recent shootings whether it was racist or not.

    This might have been really embarrassing if the MSM had picked up on it. Maybe it is not too late yet!

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  74. Anonymous4:36 PM

    OK, I may be (VERY) old school, but if I was a single gal and became pregnant by a guy who didn't bother to marry me, I'll be damned if that child would have HIS last name. (And yes, I'd see to it that he contributed child support.)

    JMHO.

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  75. Anonymous4:36 PM

    The bots visiting here today are so ugly. You have to wonder if their own
    spouses have recently been caught
    exiting a 'massage' parlor or perhaps
    one of their 'exceptional' offspring has been nabbed vandalizing homes. Must be something making them so snarky. ;>)

    Sharon TN

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  76. Janet Carter4:39 PM

    I still think that Tripp is NOT Levi's baby. Maybe Bristol knows this truth is getting ready to be told and therefore she is starting the rumor that it is SHE who wants Tripp's name changed to Palin.

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  77. Anonymous4:52 PM

    GOOD! Thanks Gryphen.

    Levi, GROW A PAIR and do what is right! The Palins are falling fast, help it go even faster for them.

    The trolls are starting to implode just like their quitter queen HA HA HA!!

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  78. Anonymous4:57 PM

    C4P responds to NE story

    terri says:
    January 20, 2011 at 3:02 PM
    groan….

    http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/70033?cid=RSS

    palinsupporter says:
    January 20, 2011 at 3:05 PM
    they ran this exact story with al gore months ago. Can’t they at least come up with original smears on governor palin and her family.

    blerch says:
    January 20, 2011 at 3:08 PM
    I guarantee you their “sources” are those left-wing nutjob bloggers in Alaska.

    Dan C says:
    January 20, 2011 at 3:22 PM
    Typical trash.

    TheTotalConservative says:
    January 20, 2011 at 6:53 PM
    They do this because Sarah Palin is a name that sell magazines.

    Penny says:
    January 20, 2011 at 3:28 PM
    Is it OK to laugh?

    What a bunch of goobers.

    hrh40 says:
    January 20, 2011 at 3:46 PM
    What are the odds that his made-up masseuse actually has the same last name as the Palins’ grandson’s first name?

    Tripp?

    Oh. brother.

    Tony4Palin says:
    January 20, 2011 at 3:54 PM
    I thought the same thing hrh..lol

    TheTotalConservative says:
    January 20, 2011 at 6:52 PM
    The National Enquirer has one lie after another practically every week. Endless garbage how many fake affair stories for Todd and her, the bogus Willow Pregnancy story, and Palin’s Lebsian Secret. The National Enquirer is either pushing garbage or the Canadian Psychic is right. I think I will go with the pushing garbage line given the Enquirer’s Terrible History and the fact they can do this no consequences. After all Obama is Gay and having an Affair with a Woman as well. Seriously the National Enquirer is just gross. It is stupid and gross. Everybody is gay and having affairs in the National Enquirer’s World.

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  79. I have to say I always go with my gut and as I said commented to the first post, I couldn't even imagine Levi doing that. Of course I don't know him and I can only imagine what he goes through dealing with THAT family but I think down, he's a good kid that has been thrown in the bus, behind the bus and under the bus. He's doing the best he can to survive the Alaskan White Trash and people just need to give guidance and support when they can. I think and hope he will always do the right thing by that little boy.

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  80. Anonymous5:05 PM

    Thanks for correcting, apologizing, offering to help.

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  81. Anonymous5:14 PM

    UGH! Just imagine the soaring tag-team rhetoric that would come from that dynamic duo:

    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2011/1/20/937599/-Dream-ticket-Palin,-Bachmann-eyeing-Iowa

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  82. Anonymous5:18 PM

    O/T but Alaska related:

    Murkowski to GOP: Focus on jobs, not health care messaging

    'The real question is how much time do we as a Congress spend on this messaging? We’ve got a situation where our economy continues to be in the tank, the longest extended period of high unemployment since World War II….As important as making sure that we’re reigning in our health care costs — spending a lot of time on the messaging vote? I don’t think that’s what the American public wants us to do. …I don’t think what people want is kind of the messaging that’s going on.'

    Voters agree. According to the latest CBS/NYT poll, job creation is the public's top priority -- well over twice as many Americans want Congress to focus on job creation as want them to focus on relitigating the health care battle.

    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2011/1/20/937745/-Murkowski-to-GOP:-Focus-on-jobs,-not-health-care-messaging

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  83. Anonymous5:22 PM

    I love how you call bots ugly when you have all said NASTY things out of hate on here

    hypocritical

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  84. Anonymous5:27 PM

    Does Piper look like Brad Hansen, the guy Palin had the affair with or does Willow look like Brad?

    My gay friends and I are hoping that Tawd finally comes out of the chilly closet. I mean, did we ever hear of Tawd dating anyone other than Sarah? And, he does have that high voice.

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  85. Anonymous5:32 PM

    Man, palin haters are nasty today.

    I agree that it is smart to hold off a story when a natl media outlet has it. Blogs are fringe and not considered hard news. And Gryphen doesn't have the fanbase provide details that will be taken seriously by sane, mainstream america

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  86. Anonymous5:36 PM

    Would Levi just get a better custody attorney - finally?!

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  87. Facebook Lurker5:39 PM

    Mboucher- that is a poser, not the real Bristol (this person put Bristol Ballas next to their name)

    Check out the friend list- they are all high schoo kids from Illinois...

    Only the public Facebook is up with no postings since Christmas

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  88. Anonymous5:41 PM

    Gryphen,

    That other "BS" Facebook is a trick. Yes, it says "Bristol Sheeran" but it is not the same one. Not the same friends, may be some. That bogus Facebook is to trick people. When you go to the bogus one click "Bristol Sheeran" it says 196 friends. You can also read the wall on the bogus one.

    Facebook Lurker would know about how many friends the original Bristol Sheeran had and can explain this better
    .
    The original Bristol Sheeran Facebook is the one on Mercede's "Love, Lies, and the Drama of Facebook"
    That is the correct Facebook.
    http://www.facebook.com/bristolsmpalin

    We are talking about two Bristol Sheeran Facebooks

    1. ORIGINAL on Mercede's "Love, Lies, and the Drama of Facebook" It had the picture of Gino and Tripp

    2. BOGUS it had 196 friends on Thursday, January 20, 2011

    This is how they manage to confuse people.

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  89. Facebook Lurker5:49 PM

    Update your post again Gryphen , that page is not Bristols, y'all need to get a little more Facebook savvy before you go and post stuff

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  90. Anonymous5:56 PM

    The public Facebook is a high tech project. It is the one with the last posting around Christmas (as of 1/20/11)

    Bristol Palin WALL December 24, 2010 at 10:10pm

    "very new-media-oriented"

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  91. SME1316:08 PM

    Why does Bristol page list her name as....

    Bristol Sheeran (Bristol Ballas)

    Then down her page there's a note that says no, she isn't married to ballas. So why did she add his name on her page?

    BTW this is a new page for her since the oldest post is from 11/2010

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  92. Anonymous6:11 PM

    I feel sad for Tripp if he is in Arizona. I do wish Levi well and to restore his strength. He may know where Tripp actually is. I would think he would be worried sick about him being far away and in an area that has so many problems. He knows Gino. Gino has his good side but he is also sex toy number 3 or 4 since Ben Barber.

    I don't know how a naive kid like Levi can understand the wicked games that are going on to destroy him. He wants to forget it all and just enjoy his new girl. Mercede said she can see Tripp 5 times a year. Levi might see him 6 or more. As long as Tripp is alright that may be what is best for him. That is what the courts would want for Tripp, what is best. I hope that Bristol is not the only one that speaks for Tripp in the custody matters.

    If that National Enquirer story was not mean intended and a disgusting smear, I don't know what is. Poor Tripp.

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  93. Anonymous6:17 PM

    Stephen Colbert, apparently a regular watcher of Morning Joe, advises Mika Brzezinski on her 'Palin fatigue.' SUCK IT UP.

    Mika, you need to buck up. I know you think this story has no purpose other than keeping Sarah Palin's name in the headlines for another news cycle. I know you think she has nothing to offer the national dialogue and that her speeches are just coded talking points mixed in with words picked up at random from a thesaurus.

    I know you think Sarah Palin is at best a self-promoting ignoramus and at worst a shameless media troll who will abuse any platform to deliver dog-whistle encouragement to a far right base that may include possible insurrectionists. I know you think her reality show was pathetically unstatesmanlike and at the same time I know you believe it also represents the pinnacle of her potential. And that her transparent desperation to be a celebrity so completely eclipsed her interest in public service so long ago that there would be more journalistic integrity in reporting on one of the lesser Kardashian's ass implants."

    I know that when you arrive at the office each day you say a silent prayer that maybe, just maybe, Sarah Palin will at long last shut up for ten [bleep] minutes. I know because I can see it in your eyes. Well, guess what, Mika. That's the gig.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/colbert-on-sarah-palin-more-journalistic-integrity-in-reporting-on-a-kardashianss-ass-implants-2011-1

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  94. Update removed since that was a fake Bristol Facebook page.

    Thanks for the heads up gang.

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  95. Anonymous6:22 PM

    The Lamestream Media Might Be Nicer To Sarah Palin If She Actually Spoke To Them

    ...Mansour does all this from behind the curtain. She tweets as RAMansour and doesn’t share a photo; her profile picture is of an ancient coin.

    A word of warning, though: Don’t get too familiar with the SarahPAC staffer. Mansour insists on Twitter etiquette: “If you're a batsnot crazy Trig Truther loon, don't call me by my 1st name as if we're on a 1st name basis.”

    http://www.businessinsider.com/the-lamestream-media-might-be-nicer-to-sarah-palin-if-she-actually-spoke-to-them-2011-1

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  96. Anonymous @3:13
    Bristol's FB page
    46,000+ followers
    How many do you have?


    President Barak Obama 17,867,340+ FB followers. Just sayin'!

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  97. Anonymous6:39 PM

    You know, just because these are public figures, it doesn't mean the stalking isn't still immoral. I'm glad Bristol deleted her fb page. The fewer ways people can creep on her the better. I, along with all her friends, was shocked she signed up on facebook.

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  98. Ex Cat6:44 PM

    Anon at 4:00 pm. Wge's viabilityas a candidate ended the first time she opened her mouth.

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  99. Anonymous6:46 PM

    Thank you Gryphen for giving Levi the benefit of a doubt. I'm sure Sadie appreciates it as well.

    It is an un-refudiated fact that Shailey Tripp of Wasilla who was arrested for prostitution in March 2010 did make a NON-MONETARY contribution in the amount of $900 to Palin's campaign according to the State of Alaska Public Offices Commission website.

    http://tinyurl.com/6jzcvmk

    The Enquirer was right about John Edwards and right about Todd and Sarah too. They know if this story was made up that Sarah would have all Murdoch's $$$ backing her up to sue the pants off NE. In fact I would consider them more "fair and balanced" than any lies and propaganda Faux News feeds their followers.

    Having said that OMG have you seen the picture of this Tripp prostitute? Seems the first dewd prefers whale blubber over a screeching fishwife with a serpent's heart. Can't say I blame him!

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  100. Anonymous6:59 PM

    I don't doubt that the Palins want all the distractions they can get for Todd's shady business.
    I know Sarah has always said he never sleeps. That means he has more hours than most of us to be doing stuff. That means he has more hours of after dark he needs to keep busy. Now we have an idea what that means to him.

    Levi has a new girlfriend, he is moving on, he hasn't been talking against Bristol. Why is Bristol coming unglued over him ?
    She is only proving that she is not happy with Gino. Gino will probably turn out to be more shady business like his family. Old school Vegas mafia mixed with the new corporations. They make Todd's shade look small potatoes.

    Why is she having her people sound so emotional and going out for his jugular? How much do they get paid to do that for her? This is just flat out cruel and malicious Why did they need to go this far over the line to destroy Levi?
    A source told The ENQUIRER that Levi agreed to the name change if he didn’t have to pay child support.
    “Levi is so cheap and will do anything to get out of paying any money for Tripp,” stated an insider.
    “He doesn’t care about spending much time with Tripp—Bristol does everything and her boyfriend Gino has been more of a father figure to Tripp over the past couple of months than Levi.
    “Bristol wants to fully eliminate Levi from her life and Levi is making it easier than ever for her.

    She sounds batsitcrazy alright. If your friends said that unknown to, when you found out it would be corrected. Bristol allowing it to stand. She knows that Levi is muzzled.

    Suddenly Bristol no longer has her Facebook. That does look like trouble for her. She has to be freaking out. She will use a friends Facebook, but it must mess with her to not have her own. If Tripp is anywhere near her I hope he is alright. She must be on a bad emotional ride.

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  101. Gryphen,

    I would just like to say that one of the main reasons I follow your blog is because you work to make sure your information is correct. I also appreciate that if you find out that something you posted is not correct, you address it right away.

    Thank you for this and your integrity.

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  102. Anonymous7:19 PM

    6:39 PM

    You don't know that Bristol deleted her page. Decent people would say something to their friends if they were going to delete months of Face-book. When it happens as fast as it did, you can count on it being because Face-book had to shut it down. From their point of view she is possibly engaging in illegal activity. She is very immoral. When you break the law or violate others ignorance is no excuse.

    There is evidence that she was doing some creeping on others. People who are not celebrity don't have it happen as often and they aren't really prepared for it, like Bristol should have been. Too bad her parents don't school her in anything about life. Her friends seem to be losers when it comes to cluing her in about things. You can almost feel sorry for her because she will be eaten alive if someone doesn't care to school her and tell her the facts of life.

    Bristol was stalking and bullying. That is why her Face-book went down so fast. The only thing she has going for her is the same as Dr. Laura's son. He committed disgusting crimes and the Pentagon shuddered the evidence. People need to know about that because a similar thing might just happen for Bristol. When in fact if she wasn't Sarah Palin's daughter she would have to face the consequences of her crimes like others.

    She signed up on Face-book as she did because she is not that bright and no one cares to help her learn anything. She doesn't have real friends, just people in awe of some glitter.

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  103. Anonymous7:47 PM

    6:46 P.M.

    What you said is not correct.

    You said:

    "It is an un-refudiated fact that Shailey Tripp of Wasilla who was arrested for prostitution in March 2010 did make a NON-MONETARY contribution in the amount of $900 to Palin's campaign according to the State of Alaska Public Offices Commission "

    The charge that shows on the online record is:

    3AN-10-02448CR Municipality of Anchorage vs. Tripp, Shailey M

    "AMC8.65.060: Maintaining Place Of Prostitution"

    The link to that is-
    http://www.courtrecords.alaska.gov/pa/pa.urd/pamw2000.o_charge_sum?57732319|2|1


    At that link

    the disposition date :06/15/2010

    The disposition code: CR: Guilty Conviction After No Contest Plea

    It important to get facts like this correct.

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  104. Anonymous7:57 PM

    The reason I think it was Bristol who deleted it was because the bots have been trying to get the fake bristol pages shut down as violations (which most are) as well as the kill sarah palin groups. It took a week for that group to be pulled.

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  105. Anonymous8:00 PM

    What evidence is there that Bristol was creeping on other?

    We obviously cannot talk without hypocrisy because NOT ONE PERSON spoke out against facebook lurker who under false pretenses friended Willow. Yes people learn over time that one must be careful who one friends on fb but it was still immoral to creep on a girl she doesn't know and report things publicly.

    Like I said, Sadie is the only evidence that exists and we don't know if Sadie was/wasnt creeping on Bristol.

    Stop speculating

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  106. Anonymous8:03 PM

    Was looking at AlaskaWTF. I said back in 2008 that when the national media (no wonder Sarah has a thing about the LSM) like the Enquirer hit Wasilla and started passing out some big bucks that the Palin mythos would start to crumble.

    It has taken longer than I thought but things look like they are beginning to disintegrate.

    The Palins of Payton Place Alaska, they are just like your family.

    Conservative Christians can be amazingly unforgiving when they set their minds to it, and every one of these scandals shave a few more % points from her approval

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  107. Anonymous8:07 PM

    What are you talking about? Bristol has lots of friends. I was her facebook friend. She is not a cruel bully. She said like 2 unflattering things to that student who called her fat. Willow was a bit more bullyish out of defense. I've said way worse things when someone has insulted someone close to me. Bristol's fb activity consisted mainly of commenting on friends baby pics (many "i love her' and "i want her" and "tripp is gonna marry her". she tried to talk some friends out of having babies as childrearing is hard.

    All her family is on facebook and she was friends with many known palinbots. Once the willow fb fight occurred, Bristol got smart and purged a lot of fb friends out of privacy.

    These are not stupid people. They are sick of the lies spread and unnecessary gossip and will defend their family at the drop of a hat. They are young and make mistakes as Sarah has said.

    None of you incl Gryph know the real reasons the Palins dont associate with the Johnstons and lash out at Sadie. If you did, you certainly wouldn't blindly take her side.

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  108. Anonymous8:11 PM

    Bristol continues to show herself off as common trash.
    If she had an agent, they probably told her to scrub the libels and trashy language toot sweet.

    Like momma's 2 PR flops in two weeks, an object lesson in how to make a bad appearance worse, with a cherry on top supplied by RAM, Bristol's doubling down on trash talk after her evening of trench mouthed bulling shared with Willow is not going to help her carrier.
    Unless she is planing to going into wrestling or roller derby.

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  109. Anonymous8:13 PM

    3:46 You are absolutely right! It is completely different.

    That is why these words & symbols and the hate and ugliness they represent should never have been brought into our public discourse by Sarah-she who spreads hate every time she opens her mouth- Palin.

    As far as I can see the gun-play is being done predominantly on the right and predominantly by the half governor.

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  110. Anonymous8:14 PM

    I don't know the specifics of the NAME CHANGE article but I would speculate that Bristol was pissed Levi started trying to destroy her family JUST because she dumped him. She mentioned on facebook in the summer when Sadie started her blog that it made her unhappy that she was lying to "the people who want to see my family destroyed"

    Im sure this has much to do with her animosity toward Levi and her awkwardness in those usweekly engagement interview clips

    2009 was hard for Bristol but her family stayed tight and strong, very supportive. It hurts when something attempts to fuck with that

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  111. Anonymous8:51 PM

    Anon 2:27, because it was not reported in the National Enquire.

    And if you think they are not 'creditble' I have 4 words for you:
    Bill Clinton
    John Edwards.

    They got it right, and they got it right when they reported Brad Hanson affair with $arah.

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  112. AKRNC8:52 PM

    This is one of the reasons why I always like to read this blog. If Gryphen makes a mistake, he doesn't hesitate to admit it or apologize. You set a great example for Levi to follow. I hope he'll remain a part of his son's life. He might be intimidated by the Palin's at this point in his life and is figuring that he will get to see his son later in life when he's able to make his own decisions. This would be the worst thing he could do. Not only would it set Tripp up for a decade or more of non-stop Johnston bashing, it would also have Tripp feeling as if his father didn't care enough to fight for him. I really hope he takes Gryphen's advice. They are young for such a short time and you have to enjoy every minute of it. I'm looking at my children at the ages of 19, 22 and 25 and wondering where the time has gone. I know one of them was in kindergarten last year or at least it seems that way.

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  113. Anonymous8:52 PM

    Slightly OT but in the context of things disappearing from places like FB.

    Remember how the Brown shirts showed up in Wasilla after Sarah's nomination and Sadie's photos disappeared from her computer and people stopped talking about the Palins to the press.

    The Secret Service, in addition to all the other people they protect also protect the people nominated by the parties for POTUS and VP and their families and sometimes even protect people in the primaries.

    Since Sarah was a VP candidate the SS might begin to start cleaning her act up and shutting peoples mouths and scrubbing records from people's computers.

    In other words the Alaska progressive bloggers and many others might need to look a making sure hey have secure backup systems form any documents, research and downloads elated to the Palins.
    She will run if she does not selfdestruct so she could be looking at "professional protection" soon as February.

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  114. Anonymous8:52 PM

    It is quite likely that the media will pick up on Levi Johnston's reaction to Bristol Palin changing their son's name before too long. At that point the proverbial you-know-what will hit the fan, and then the public will learn whether or not Bristol was acting legally when doing so.
    Can Bristol Palin Legally Change Baby Tripp's Name?

    Do you think Bristol has the legal right to change Tripp's name or do you think she is simply doing so out of spite for Levi Johnston? What do you think the repercussions might be?

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  115. Earlier:
    Kate Riessbeck Fannin

    Welcome to Maricopa Bristol :)
    My girls and I walked past you tonight in the bread Aisle. My 10 year old was begging me to turn around so we could say hi, but you were on the phone. Have a great rest of the week!


    Does this sound really phony to you? Does to me. This is another attempt to make everyone believe that Bristol is in Maricopa. Why didn't this "fan" take a picture of her idol? If I was in a store and someone I was a big fan of was there, I'd at least go up or wave to them. Does not pass the sniff test.

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  116. Anonymous9:03 PM

    I'll take the bait - I think Levi's dad, or mom, did something to somehow harm the Palin family, or change their lives permanently.

    I have always felt sorry for Levi's mother, but who knows? There were rumors at one time that she had somehow been involved with Track.

    And that dad is certainly a mysterious figure. What's up with him? Did he used to hang out at the Palins? I think I had heard that at one point. There is only one picture of him and Levi and whichever baby it is, supposedly Tripp?

    Whatever the case, if the Palins have something against Levi's parents it should not be blamed on Mercede. That's the problem with these weird feuding families, it just continues on and on, generation to generation.

    What makes people think Gryphen doesn't know about that stuff, anyway?

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  117. Anonymous9:07 PM

    8:00 PM

    It is not really speculation. Facebook has the evidence.

    Bristol contacted Tripp's aunt's boyfriend. I wish I had the screen capture. It looks like you will have to wait. She did other things as well.

    Before that Bristol and 2 others pulled some thuggish moves on another boy from Wasilla. They are doing things that others get in deep trouble for. It would be wrong to have another Dr. Laura's son. They can't commit these acts and have them covered up again. Cyber crimes are just as criminal as any other and they should take responsibility and face consequences.

    The Palin girls have used racial and hate speech to intimidate. They are accusing men of being the lowest form of human one can be and more. No matter how much anyone makes excuses it has happened and people can see it. I hope Facebook doesn't cover this up like the Pentagon did for Dr. Laura's son.

    That is a pattern that must end. It is not only about this one time or only about Bristol Palin. It happened with Dr. Laura's son and it should never happen again. It is not American. There is a serious problem to be examined here.

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  118. Anonymous9:07 PM

    Anon 4:35 PM

    "Skunk" is slang for mixed race Blacks, as in Obama.

    There is not reason to kill skunks, unless they are getting to your chicken eggs or peepers, except for the fun of killing something.

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  119. Anonymous9:08 PM

    ANON AT 7:47
    You have no idea apparently what the other blogger was talking about. The $900 has nothing to do with a criminal case ( at least not yet).
    The $900 was paid to Shailey for "services rendered" to the (cough cough) Palin's and paid out of SarahPac, Sarah Palin's political PAC to to Tripp's namesake. Get a clue, whoever donated to SarahPac paid so Tawd could get laid! LOL!

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  120. Anonymous9:13 PM

    Someone said:
    Levi has a new girlfriend, he is moving on, he hasn't been talking against Bristol. Why is Bristol coming unglued over him ?


    I think you just answered your own question. She has her mama's pathological need for attention. She can date other people now, but how dare he?!

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  121. Anonymous9:30 PM

    7:57 PM

    When Deryk Schlessinger's social media was closed down we were on line. People were viewing it one minute, the next it was gone.

    It went down so fast because the Pentagon got it done. Deryk had alerted his college friends to a photo of himself with a gun in his mouth and some other alarming things. He also did these cartoons and humor that people knew of him. These were actually criminal because it is illegal to torture and murder children even in cartoons. He was in the Army and his mother was a cheerleader. The Pentagon destroyed the evidence for him and it was covered up. That may have already happened with Facebook.

    When people take down their own pages it is rarely that fast and without adieu.

    Bristol is acting out. She did it with Mercede and her friends and when that wasn't enough she had friends that went to do the attack on Levi. No, she did not take down her Facebook.

    Her mother spoke out about the homophobic incident and proved she was not admitting she knew the wrong her children do. Willow is a minor and they could over power her and get her Facebook down. There is no way that happened with Bristol.

    This has all the indications of it not being Bristol who closed it down. Don't tell me she wasn't that into Facebook. We know she was. All the friends she had and the ones deleted are all in the cache with every other thing she did on Facebook. Not only her pages. Others have screen shots because it is legal to do that. It is very important to do that when you are dealing with bullies and criminal behaviors.

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  122. Anonymous9:32 PM

    It's interesting to see the defenders of the Palin clan trying to sing their praises (are they the Palins themselves?) when we've already seen the emails where they accuse people of the worst things as casually as one says hello.

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  123. Anonymous10:17 PM

    We do know that Sadie wasn't creeping on Bristol because Bristol would have put it in the Enquirer or a favorite media outlet of hers. If Bristol uses the media for every thing EXCEPT that one thing we are certain that Sadie wasn't creeping on Bristol. It would have been published.

    We are just as certain that Bristol was creeping on Sadie and others. Also, I saw friends of Bristol's on Facebook, they would go to a friend of Levi or Sadie and say the ugly things about Levi. If there is a courtcase one day I can probably find where it was. Even if it gets erased it can still be accessed. The FBI can do amazing things also. I doubt that Bristol has friends that just volenteer to go do nasty things to Levi. She no doubt pays them off in some way. I would like to see Bristol and all who conspire and do these vile disgusting things against others to get their consequences real soon. It is gangster and you all need to stop. Thankfully, the internet is what it is, even if you try to erase your sins away you are wasting your time.

    Why does Bristol and her apologists act like they know nothing about Facebook and the internet? How can she not know or hear about all the warnings about Facebook? She was on MySpace and she knows how that went. It's social media, you put it up and it is there for life. STOP PLAYING DUMB. If her mother didn't neglect her education she would act like she had two brain cells or she would find one friend with a couple that could help her out. You apologists are riduculous. You are not making the Palins look good at all. When are you going to tell her she is a celebrity and she needs to know how to conduct herself on-line and in the press or she is doing herself in. No one is doing it to her.

    All you can do is go deeper into denial. No wonder she seems so frustrated and constipated.

    The sick, sick, sick people that imply the whole Johnston family did some horrible untold deeds to the poor Palins and that is why the Palins are entitled to committ horrendous acts against Sherry, Levi and Sadie can rethink how that makes you and the Palin's sound. To say it nice that is chicken shit. Get it out or STFU about that one. All our IP addresses are available. If you are piling on the lies with implications to ruin others reputations you deserve to reap what you are sowing. Either say it or don't use that kind of shit again.

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  124. Anonymous10:32 PM

    I'm the anon at 7:47P.M. and I'm back to correct another error.

    Anon at 9:08P.M. has posted

    "ANON AT 7:47
    You have no idea apparently what the other blogger was talking about. The $900 has nothing to do with a criminal case ( at least not yet).
    The $900 was paid to Shailey for "services rendered" to the (cough cough) Palin's and paid out of SarahPac, Sarah Palin's political PAC to to Tripp's namesake. Get a clue, whoever donated to SarahPac paid so Tawd could get laid! LOL!

    9:08 PM"



    Go back and read what 6:46 posted.

    The part about the contribution was correct.

    " It is an un-refudiated fact that Shailey Tripp of Wasilla ..... did make a NON-MONETARY contribution in the amount of $900 to Palin's campaign according to the State of Alaska Public Offices Commission website.

    The link to the particular donation by Shailey Tripp at the APOC website is

    https://webapp.state.ak.us/apoc/contributions.jsp?name=TRIPP%2C+SHAILEY&pagesize=20

    As far as all you posted- when I went to your link- there was no link.

    Shailey Tripp is the APOC records as having made a non monetary donation valued at $900.00 to Palin -Parnell 2006 campaign.

    Most of what you posted at 9:08 P.M. is either speculation or just plain wrong.

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  125. Anonymous11:44 PM

    "I would speculate that Bristol was pissed Levi started trying to destroy her family JUST because she dumped him." 8:14 PM

    You might want to do more back ground check on that... Levi started trying to destroy her family JUST because she dumped him? That isn't how I remember it went at all. Also, read the NAME CHANGE ARTICLE. IT COULD BE A GAME CHANGER.

    Because a person is pissed for any reason that is not a license to do things that are clearly cruel and uncaring of a child, in this situation it is Tripp Easton Mitchell Johnston. Bristol put a weird post on her Facebook in regard to Tripp's name. There is a screen grab. She may be having some kind of break from reality, it was pretty other worldly and highly negative for a mother, although the tone was goofy airhead. Tripp is too young to get it now but it will live forever in the tubes. It was not enough for Bristol to say only that one Facebook comment, soon other media was hearing from some of the most awful disturbed sounding Bristol "insiders." Bristol or Sarah had the most odious Becky Mansour type people talking to media. They had to pile on Levi. None of Bristol's behaviors are a sign of good mental health. For Tripp's sake, she needs an intervention. A mature person that wants to change a child's name just takes care of it in a business fashion. If it doesn't work out, you handle it like a loving mature mother. The whole Facebook thing is virtual and too much crazy fantasy. Tripp needs a solid identity and flipping about on Facebook over her obcsession with Levi is sick. She should just talk to Levi or concerned parties and handle it in a respectful manner. It is obvious Bristol and her family are not that tight and strong if they are all supportive of the way she treats Tripp. Or they are tight and strong like a band of devils.

    What is really telling is that just days before (January 16) she was deviously going after Levi's sister and her boyfriend. Trying to manipulate their relationship through Facebook of all things. She has no bounds and there is no one close to Bristol that can see how disturbed she is.

    Her apologists claim she doesn't like drama. Yet she looks like a drama queen when her friends are dramatically spewing garbage anonymously for her to major publications. Those people do not even have a clue how ill they all are to enable her. None of them should be unsupervised and near any child. Bristol and all her friends are out there in lala land. I am even disgusted with the media that enables them. It is good to have it reported how sick they really are but it is time something is done to save Tripp from that awful group of people. You know they are poisoning his mind 24/7. All of them. He will grow up hearing this awful unknown thing the Johnstons did and therefore mistreat them all like Bristol and Sarah have their friends do for them.

    This is there a member of this family that you would vote for to be a dog catcher?

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  126. Anonymous11:53 PM

    After reading all this crap about Bristol, Sarah and Todd, it is amazing they have teeth. You expect to see rotten chewing tobacco stained teeth. It is a real dysfunctional family we have in Wasilla. I think they are so pissed they can’t see straight now because Sarah is done when it comes to any political ambitions and the family is a total wreck. Sarah must be close to having a stoke because of what’s going on with Todd’s prostitutes and the emails that will be coming out shortly. I don’t think anybody can name one family in the world that is hated more than the Palins. It is so sad, but at the same time it is kinda funny. Not hating on Bristol, but I can’t imagine any body marrying her, she is going to have to find somebody like her submissive dad and we all seen what happened to Sarah and Todd’s marriage. Even though nobody is saying much about Willow, we all know she has big issues as a matter of fact they all have major issues and like I said it is so sad, but at the same time it is funny to watch them implode. It is going to be something watching Willow blossom into a Bristol and Sarah, just reaking of hate for their fellow man.

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  127. the NE only reported what the palin PR team deliberately put out there about tripp in an attempt to distract from the todd story.

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  128. 2:48p, and yet here you are, clinging to our every word.

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  129. Anonymous1:42 AM

    How about the fact that Bristol's child (?) is named after his father's hooker? Nice legacy you got there, Barstool.

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  130. 3:44, are you seriously still pushing the meme that sarah took responsibility for her daughters' facebook foulness? She did no such thing. sarah only paid lip service to"responsibility, while whining that her kids were only defending their mama.

    the facebook came down because sarah knows willow will only do more of the same and THAT would not be good for mama.

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  131. Anonymous2:47 AM

    It's interesting to reread Levi's comments in Vanity Fair's article "Me and Mrs. Palin."

    In all the time Bristol and I were together, I’ve never seen them sleep in the same bedroom. (I don’t know how she got pregnant.) Even during the Republican National Convention they slept in different bedrooms at opposite ends of her suite. Todd slept in the living room, on his little black recliner, with the TV going in the background—usually with the news or an Ultimate Fighting Championship match on—wearing clothes he wore that same day. (Since I used to sleep on the couch until Bristol got pregnant, I know he doesn’t snore, so that’s not why he wasn’t in bed.) At four a.m., he was gone, off doing something. Sarah would wake up around five, then go to Kaladi Brothers Coffee soon after.

    http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/
    10/levi-johnston200910?currentPage=all

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  132. Anonymous3:40 AM

    I think the most damaging aspect to this whole fiasco are the written words that Bristol posted on her facebook about changing Tripp's name. The court ordered both parties from refraining from saying negative things about the other parents or their families. Bristol is like her mom; can't help but fall back into bitch mode. I hope the judge will take a look into this and tell Bristol to get that kid back to Alaska if she cannot behave like an adult.

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  133. Anonymous5:11 AM

    What's funny is, we don't know Bristol at all, nor do we know Sadie, Levi, and anyone else who butts in.

    We do know from facebook that the compound has frequent visits from WIllow's friends, Todd's buddies, family friends. No one ever looks unhappy in that house in pictures. PIcs show fun and excitement. When that dance group celebrated Mark and BRistol's visit to Wasilla, a huge host of people gathered in the big red barn and made shirts and celebrated.

    Palin haters are always going to find something they hate

    Palin supporters and friends (because a lot of palinbots have met and hung out with the palins) all always going to defend them

    Thats a pretty good way to look at it.

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  134. Anonymous8:18 AM

    This isn't about going to a friends house to have some fun. I've known some real creeps that were also fun at times. So? I have family members that supported Nixon no matter what. That is a part of life.

    You can chose to ignore the Palins display of their cruelty to others. You can support them when they break the law. They are going to need friends more than ever. Real friends help them deal with their transgressions. The enablers are also pretty creepy.

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  135. lwtjb9:25 AM

    "I believe the argument is that people cannot be incited to violence, so why would it matter what the crosshairs are on? BTW- The districts are represented by PEOPLE, with faces!"

    I sure do agree with you here. Besides that, now the right is complaining that Beck and Limbaugh et al are in danger because of remarks being made by the left.

    I have whiplash. It's perfectly OK to put those crosshairs on the map but when the left complains about the crosshairs that puts the right in physical danger??? OK, so crosshairs on the map are totally innocuous because other people cannot thereby be pushed into violent action. BUT to object is inflammatory and will result in violent action? Something like that?

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  136. I will ignore the trolls. They don't taste good at all even with hot sauce. I will say they are coming out more to defend their Queen. I hope they get their checks from the SarahPac. Just like they blame the left for being paid by Soro's. Has everyone gotten their check this week from Soro's? I keep checking but no darn check. LOL

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  137. Bristol Palin on Bob and Mark
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdEu8_7FY70

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  138. Anonymous1:47 PM

    8:00 PM

    I don't know anything about facebook lurker and I can hardly speak out against something I don't know. I hope I won't be labeled a hypocrite for that. Where is a link to where you are getting that information?

    The name change story was false and I believe it has been corrected. Levi was trashed and that stands as good for Bristol?

    All that is getting aired out here is but a small part of a larger picture. I need to hear both sides. Social Media does keep all the records. As soon as it gets into a court room we will be able to see those sides. Meanwhile, anyone that has an opinion or can add facts or documents to put a light on the Hatfield vs McCoy of Wasilla please do. It is getting interesting and more people will be tuning in. Thanks.

    Ruth

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  139. Anonymous3:28 PM

    4:36, it was bristles choice.

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  140. Anonymous3:58 PM

    There are people who do know Sadie, Levi and Bristol.
    There are those that know the company she keeps.
    Bristol Palin on Bob and Mark

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  141. Anonymous4:07 PM

    8:14, you are so full of crap. Levi hasn't been trying to destroy bristles pathetic life.he has moved on.

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  142. Anonymous4:59 PM

    What a tawdry publicity hog. I can't believe anyone would stoop so low. First the head line grabbing NAME CHANGE.

    "Tripp Easton Mitchell Palin…PALIN!!!"

    Next she has her friends viciously attack Johnston [ in the Enquirer and others ]:
    And a "source" says that Levi agreed to the name change on one condition: That he doesn't have to pay child support.
    The source says, quote, "Levi is so cheap and will do anything to get out of paying any money for Tripp. He doesn't care about spending much time with Tripp.
    "Bristol wants to fully eliminate Levi from her life and Levi is making it easier than ever for her."

    She will do anything to distract from Todd Palin news and to take the opportunity to bring back up her little moment of glory when she was on DWTS Doesn't she know that more people only see her as Miss Piggy gone bad?

    Bristol was given privileges to make money and be called a spokesperson because of a name, not through her own hard work. SHE ABUSED THOSE GIFTS AND THE POWER THEY GAVE HER. Now she is repeatedly attacking others and not being called out when she does it.

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  143. DON'T TAKE IT ANYMORE5:15 PM

    Bristol and Willow's November 2010 Facebook flame wars was not "defending the family."

    THAT LIE CAN STOP.

    These girls are real bullies, they learned it at home. They deserve to be kept away from the internet for life. The problem is they will cheat. BTW, Tre was right about his opinion of the show. Had they been able to take some constructive criticism they may have reached the editor and she could have made improvements.

    Read the following. They sound like crack addicts. They get off being cyber-bullies as they show the world here. It is not the only time, it is the only time they were caught. Thanks to some very alert citizens.
    Analyzing their Facebook flame war.
    Warning: This article contains profanity as quoted from Willow and Bristol Palin's Facebook posts. Also in Slate, read the rest of Emily Bazelon's series on cyberbullying.
    ...shameful, especially in light of the recent cluster of suicides by gay kids.
    ...It's not bad luck that their adolescent misfires went viral—it's inevitable.

    I don't know when Bristol Palin was appearing in a suicide awareness walk with Mark Ballas but I find that highly hypocritical after reading what she participates in. It disgusts me as much as when you hear about all the men she has sex with and then goes off to make money from abstinence speeches.

    The way the parents lied and failed to handle this in a proper manner needs much more scrutiny. They need to stop playing as if they have leadership qualities.

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