Thursday, January 13, 2011
Joe Scarborough takes on Glenn Beck. I predict some sobbing in little Glenn's future.
I have a lot of family members that listen to him and watch him and are frightened by the things that he says every night with his chalkboard...my mom and a lot of other people like her that watch him every day start to believe if they hear every day, every day, that there's this guy in Washington D.C., this black guy that hates all white people and he wants to take your money . . . and he wants to destroy the country you grew up in. You feed that vile message to Americans every day, it's going to have an impact." (Courtesy of the Huffington Post)
Damn! First Scarborough dares the Republicans to put a stop to Sarah Palin (Which actually sort of worked out.), and now he decides to give Beck a much deserved verbal wedgie.
I don't believe that Joey is going to be invited to join in on any Republican reindeer games anytime soon.
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O/T but in light of the Blood Libel comments, remember this gem..
ReplyDelete"Sarah comes in with all this ideological stuff, and I was like, 'Whoa,'" said Stein, who lost the election. "But that got her elected: abortion, gun rights, term limits and the religious born-again thing. I'm not a church-going guy and that was another issue: 'We will have our first Christian mayor.'"
"I thought: 'Holy cow, what's happening here? Does that mean she thinks I'm Jewish or Islamic?'" recalled Stein, who was raised Lutheran. "The point was that she was a born-again Christian."
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20080903/ARTICLE/809030376/-1/newssitemap
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/compost/2011/01/is_miss_america_to_blame_for_s.html
ReplyDeleteI had to laugh at Sarah talking about vigorous debate is part of the american tradition.....LOL!!!
ReplyDeleteWhat would she know about debate?
Debate is not one way messaging behind twitter and facebook.
In the span of a single news cycle, Republicans got a jarring reminder of two forces that could prevent them from retaking the presidency next year.
ReplyDeleteAt sunrise in the east on Wednesday, Sarah Palin demonstrated that she has little interest—or capacity—in moving beyond her brand of grievance-based politics. And at sundown in the west, Barack Obama reminded even his critics of his ability to rally disparate Americans around a message of reconciliation.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47543.html
Good Job Joe!
ReplyDeleteThis whole episode has caused me a great deal of stress and I need to walk away for a couple of days before I loose my teeth from grinding them so hard, but I want to warn of something that I fear might happen. In our culture we tend to build someone up, celebrate them, then viciously tear them down. Michael Jackson, Brittany Spears, Lindsey Lohan, etc. I was concerned yesterday that scara would somehow sway us to suddenly love her and she would rise from the ashes and become human, (I know impossible). I still think it might happen as we like to also, cheer for the underdog and give people a second chance. Brittany Spears is just a harmless, untalented girl, scara has shown she is a dangerous. It cannot, however, and we must continue to keep the magnifying glass sharply focused until this freak of nature dissolves back into dust. BTW, listening to faux news working really hard explaining how inappropriate it was for the applause at the speech last night and how horrible it was for Obama to shake hands with Sheriff D. What a bunch of cry babies and what an insult to their listeners no matter how ignorant they are. Looks like they don't listen to the boss.
He is exactly right! My parents, who are both retired and educated, listen to him EVERY day and they have become brainwashed by him and Fox. They don't listen to anyone else because Glenn and his buddies tell them that they shouldn't because they will only tell lies. It is very hard to even be in the same room with them as they parrot back everything they hear from Glenn and Co. and anything I try to correct they insist that I am wrong. It's very sad because these are not the people who raised me and I wish I could have them back!
ReplyDeleteThis day started out on a discordant note with a tin-ear video from Sarah Palin. An eight-minute defensive message that pointed fingers while demanding that fingers not be pointed at her. Her tone was wrong. Her words were ill-chosen. Her message ill-timed for a nation in need of healing. Thankfully, hers was not the last voice to be heard.
ReplyDeletehttp://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2011/01/heroes_humility_and_healing_in.html
Sarah Palin is no Ronald Reagan
ReplyDeleteWhat is one to make of Sarah Palin's defensive, bitter, self-centered speech in response to the mass killings in Arizona?
It may well work, in that dog-whistle way the former Alaska governor has, with some ultra-conservatives. But the speech is one more piece of evidence (as if we needed one) that Palin, even at a time when Americans are crying out for healing and unity, is a strikingly polarizing figure.
When she first burst on the national scene, I watched her convention speech and could not imagine Ronald Reagan delivering it. She was sarcastic and caustic and harsh -- everything Reagan was not. I felt the same thing watching her post-Arizona video presentation. The Gipper was a tough partisan and a strong conservative, but he had a sunny, optimistic worldview and a resilient, Teflon manner that slipped punches, drawing in even those who disagreed with him, and driving Democrats to distraction.
Reagan understood the biblical wisdom that "A soft answer turneth away wrath, but grievous words stir up anger." Palin seems hell-bent on using the most grievous words (including the calumny "blood libel") to stir up still more anger: the one thing we already have a surplus of.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/01/13/begala.palin.reagan/
Joe Scarborough is the one of the few rational Conservative voice's of the Republican Party. Although, I rarely agree with everything he say's, He always has a panel comprised of of various opinions and Political persuasions. Fox could learn from example that Morning Joe is "Fair and Balanced"
ReplyDeleteHer comments were angry, defensive, unfocused and lacking in compassion. In more than 1,400 words, she was unable to utter the names of the fallen victims, despite releasing the statement on the same day of the massive memorial ceremony for them. Beyond her superficial “condolences,” she attacked the media and protested her innocence belligerently and childishly.
ReplyDeleteFor days, Palin hid in her personal underground bunker — the television studio she had built in her home (anyone know how many other “mama grizzlies” have their own personal television studios in their homes?) — working on her statement, carefully choosing the words (“blood libel,” really?). And this was the best she could do?
What the speech lacked in leadership she made up for with hubris. She purposely timed the release of her statement to attempt to pre-empt President Obama’s remarks at the ceremony in Tucson. She took the opportunity to attack the media in an attempt to draw more attention to herself. And there is no doubt in my mind that she carefully chose the words “blood libel” fully knowing it would create even more controversy. Where were the passages on unity? Where was the call for America to overcome this controversy? Where was the emotional connection or the inspiring rhetoric for Americans?
American leaders are supposed to rise above these controversies and bring us together. By every measure, Sarah Palin failed miserably at her first test of presidential mettle.
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/137687-sarah-palin-proves-shes-not-presidential
Sarah Palin has a reputation for being an aggressive editor of comments on her Facebook page - a reputation that has always seemed likely accurate to me, given the tedious consistency with which all comments on the page are along the lines of "I love you SARAH!"
ReplyDeleteBut in the wake of the terrible events in Arizona, with many commentators pointing out the obvious fact that Gabrielle Giffords had been targetted by Palin in the November election on a map that used a chilling gun site graphic, I thought it would be worth watching her page for a little while to see if her team were indeed deleting negative comments routinely. But I had no idea how incredibly, almost comically, efficient her people would turn out to be in deleting comments that were even slightly critical of the former Governor. And then I came across... well, what I guess you'd have to politely call an appalling example of editorial misjudgement at best.
http://obamalondon.blogspot.com/2011/01/inexplicable-edits-on-sarah-palins.html
The sorry episode confirmed the suspicion that Palin is addicted to getting attention, while her boosters are addicted to defending every thoughtless utterance she releases. And even her boosters know what most Republicans know: Palin is not a serious thinker.
ReplyDeleteRead more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/01/12/EDPG1H7BPN.DTL#ixzz1AvNFcxlJ
Great! Word clouds of the two. Click and compare.
ReplyDeleteArizona shooting: Obama speech and Palin's statement compared
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/13/arizona-shooting-obama-speech-palin-statement
as with STEPH, my dad spent his last time here listening to these boobs on the radio. he was blind so we set him up with headphones.
ReplyDeleteand he too would believe everything these clowns said, i don't care what it was.
for fun i would play games with him,, asking why rush has not left the country yet as obamacare has passed?
why does GB cry so much? things like that.
but the best zinger i got in was when i found out obama's birthday was the same as dads!
HE WAS PISSED!!
bill in belize.
Barack Obama's Tucson speech rose to the moment and transcended it
ReplyDelete...This was meant to be the Republicans' week, as they took control of the House of Representatives and its legislative agenda. Instead they look small – as well as defensive, fending off accusations that it was the violent rhetoric of the right that fuelled the current toxic political environment. None smaller than the de facto leader of today's Republican party, Sarah Palin, who preceded the Tucson address with an aggressive, self-regarding and petty-minded videotaped message that claimed she had been the victim of a "blood libel". The contrast between the two performances could not have been sharper.
Obama looks the bigger person, calling for a discourse that heals not wounds. That puts him in the place all presidents covet: above the fray, beyond mere Democrat or Republican. Ronald Reagan got there, but few others manage it. The challenge will be to maintain that position into the re-election year of 2012.
But such thoughts are for later. What will be remembered today are moments like those when he told his audience that Gabrielle Giffords had opened her eyes for the first time – moments when only the most cold-hearted would not have felt a tear. What we saw from Obama in Tucson will be a defining, even cherished moment in his presidency.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/13/obama-tucson-speech-pastor-politician
I fully agree with Scarborough.This is what our older population is hearing over and over since Fox is in all basic cable packages and played in most public places. Some simply like Beck because they feel he's a "good boy"--guess the crying toddler meme works with them. Think of it as your elderly next door neighbor being taken by a sketchy contractor, which is all too common (not to bash all contractors here!) That, with the pre-Civil Rights bigotry that some have grown up with and never grown past, and no wonder they're bitter, frightened and look to Saint Sarah and "Professor" Beck to mirror and feed their fears. It's really becoming our national shame that this demographic identifies with extreme RW ideology and won't even try to listen to our eloquent, intelligent President.
ReplyDeleteAnd now these Faux idiots are criticizing the cheering at that wonderful, uplifting memorial service last night? Sure--that's all they've got!
Sarah Palin has bought it this time. I was still quite concerned for our nation, even after the tragedy of last Saturday, but the latest video presentation from the Wicked Witch of Wasilla has left me breathing a sigh of relief. Remember Rick Sanchez? He used to work for CNN. Sarah' s going to make a lot of powerful people with big money mad with her latest anti-Semitic comment. You can get away with bad-mouthing liberals, hippies, Communists, atheists, African-Americans, and Hispanics, up to some relative point, in this country, but don't mess around with that concept called anti-Semitism. If you dare to do that publicly, Ruh-roh! Somebody with a very big stick is going to whup up on yo ass!
ReplyDeletehttp://palinbabygate.blogspot.com/2011/01/wasilla-duck-goes-splat.html
I was listening to Morning Joe on Sirius this a.m. and everyone was praising Obama's speech in Tucson. Even Pat Buchanan called it "splendid". I know he's an ass (Buchanan), but hearing him say was pretty great. Finally the President gets some credit.
ReplyDelete"So I can tell you she knows we are here she knows we love her and she knows we are rooting for her," he said.
ReplyDeletehttp://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/01/obama-gabby-opened-her-eyes-for-the-first-time-video.php?ref=fpa
It is when there is a human element to his presidency that Barack Obama tends to stand the tallest. And on Wednesday evening, as he spoke to 14,000-plus at a memorial service at the University of Arizona, there was, if nothing else, an emotional honesty to what he had to say.
ReplyDeleteTo a nation looking for clarity, Obama didn't pretend to have all the answers. There is, he noted, a tendency to demand "order" from "chaos," to try and "make sense out of that which seems senseless." Life doesn't always comply.
To a political culture looking for scapegoats, he asked for maturity. A lack of civility hadn't caused the shooting of 20 in Tucson, nor would it provide relief. "What we cannot do is use this tragedy as one more occasion to turn on each other," said Obama. "That we cannot do. That we cannot do."
And for a community mourning, the president assumed only the role of fellow griever, trying to draw threads of optimism from the wreckage. "If this tragedy prompts reflection and debate as it should, let's make sure it's worthy of those we have lost," Obama declared, in a speech that his own aides insisted was one of his best.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sam-stein/obama-reintroduces-the-hu_b_808366.html
I have renewed respect for Joe. Seems like he is the only Republican with a set of balls. As an Independent, I would consider his ideas.
ReplyDeleteHowever, back to the first comment re: Stein and Wasilla's born again mayor---If Jews were surprised by this hit on Giffords, they were not paying attention. She wants us back to Jeruselum (cannot spell) and it will be the first program she promotes as president "Sending Jews to Jeruselum." Or, the cross hairs.
This is how it starts folks. While the majority of the country probably doesnt agree with her, it only took one man to kill one Jewish woman.
She wants what she thinks we have, but once satisfied or in power, we have something to be fearful for she will come after us, just like Giffords. Because, in her church and in those lonely snowy nights, she was told that Jews controlled the world and possibly responsible for everything that stopped her father from succeeding.
Do you remember her first act as governor? Does anyone? She wanted to take state benefits away from Gay couples. It didnt succeed.
Please understand that this woman takes hatred to a new level.
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me!
"I think the president prepared this speech in the expectation that this would be indeed a memorial service," he said. "I think it ended up being nothing of the kind. This was much more of a pep rally and perhaps that's precisely what the people of Tuscon and the people of this region needed...and wanted."
ReplyDeletehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/13/brit-hume-tone-arizona-shooting-memorial_n_808432.html
At a time when we seem at greatest peril of ripping ourselves irreparably asunder, Barack Obama's deft rhetorical genius pulled us together yesterday in a way that perfectly symbolizes what the promise of America is all about.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/eddie-reeves/president-obama-in-tucson_b_808403.html
What is it about Americans that so many of them can be sucked into listening to and believing in the vile messages spewed from the mouths of scum like Beck? What makes a 'sane' person sit through such garbage, day after day, month after month, year after year, without questioning the validity of what they are hearing?
ReplyDeleteWhat has happened to the reasoning abilities of these folks, anyway?
Seeing the current state of affairs in the U.S. makes those of us on the outside grieve for y'all.
...But as of today, there has been one political ramification of note -- Sarah Palin is done as a presidential candidate. After her video disparaging critics as guilty of a "blood libel," she should be shunned and will be shunned. As John Kenneth Galbraith said of Black Monday in 1929, "the end had come but was not yet in sight."
ReplyDeleteEveryone in public life, given enough time, will misspeak, stumble, say something foolish. But the public and peers will hold it against them only if it betrays a larger unpleasant reality.
...Now comes Sarah Palin who has lived by the sword. Her weapon is the nasty, snide attack -- on Obama for "paling around with terrorists," on all liberals as un-American, on critics as "limp, impotent [members of] of the old boys club" who lack "cajones."
Her brand was all about being an Annie Oakley to the hard right via all her Tweets and Facebook pages and bird whistle. And a chunk of the Republican base who think Obama's a Marsian went for it. Even goofs like "refudiate" or writing on her hand were dismissed as proof of a conspiracy of elitists out to get "a hockey Mom from Wasilla."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-green/her-candidacy-is-over_b_808371.html
Beck will just e-mail the twitter queen and she will e-mail him back and then Greta will read the e-mails on her show and put the ugly on Joe.
ReplyDeleteThe 3 stoogies on Fox - Beck, Greta and Palin.
Gillibrand said she was holding Giffords' left hand when she started to feel it move. Giffords squeezed the senator's hand, then rubbed her hand with her thumb.
ReplyDeleteThen Giffords' right eye started to flicker. (Her left eye, damaged in the shooting, is bandaged.) For about 30 seconds, Giffords struggled, before finally opening her eye wide and straining to focus on her friends, husband, parents and doctor.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/13/giffords-eye-opens-pelosi_n_808454.html
Anon @3:24 (also O/T) My 90 year old aunt (an "independent" Catholic, if there is such a thing) learned to deflect that born-again jive: I don't need to be born again, I was born right the first time.
ReplyDelete"I believe we can be better," Obama said to a capacity crowd in the university's basketball arena – and to countless others watching around the country. "Those who died here, those who saved lives here – they help me believe. We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
ReplyDeletehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/12/obama-arizona-speech-pres_1_n_808315.html
Sarah Palin tried so hard yesterday with her seven minute-long video response to the Arizona shooting, but she just had to slip the antiquated, anti-Semitic term "blood libel" into her statement. Can we all agree that this latest gaffe is the final nail in the coffin of her downward spiral of a political career?
ReplyDeleteBelow are five of her biggest FAILS over the past couple of years.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matt-wilstein/the-top-10-biggest-sarah-_b_808166.html#s222939&title=Using_the_Term
Tonight in Tucson the president's strength, compassion and wisdom reminded us all of what we first saw in him, what can get lost in the day-to-day legislative sausage-making. More gray-haired and somber, he brilliantly and so presidentially rose above the clutter, the chatter. I keep thinking about his oft-repeated line, "our better angels," and today he inspired us all, on all sides, to really hear those words.
ReplyDeleteHe preached tonight, a lay Christian minister. I can't but hope that the vast reasonable middle of the electorate, after his speech, is more with him than before. I would guess that tonight was the first time that they sat down and really listened to an entire speech of his in months. It was a helluva of a way to get reacquainted.
Sarah Palin's upload from her bunker this morning couldn't provide a starker example of the differences in the content of their characters.
For all her whining that it's actually her that has been wronged, for all Fox News' post-speech takeaway that the president's speech absolved them from any culpability in the dangerous turn in public political discourse, I can't help but hope that the deaths in Tucson will chasten them, just a little.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/trey-ellis/the-president-has-come-of_b_808361.html
Gryphen, you should post Anonymous 3:24, on your main website. This is very important information. It needs to be Front and Center.
ReplyDeleteAnd, thank you 3:24 for posting this. It was my understanding that Palin et al spread rumors that Stein was Jewish.
It is so important to understand that the nut will not move far from the tree.
I am in much the same position as STEPH.
ReplyDeleteMy elderly parents are Mormon, and believe every nutty thing Beck says. They are frightened and angry that Obama is "destroying our country".
They feel "the world will end soon" and there is no way to reason them out of this FEELING.
My heart just breaks that their sunset years are spent trembling under the shadow of that hateful loon.
Being as palin has brought up the subject of dueling I think maybe Scarborough and beck can settle their differences the old fashioned way,pistols at 50 paces.My money's on Scarborough as beck is supposedly going blind,Excessive masturbation?Should be a ratings winner.
ReplyDeletePalin love means almost never having to say you're sorry...
ReplyDeleteAs she has shown in so many ways, Sarah Palin is not a normal person. But for the record, she can and has actually used the word it seemed so hard for her to use this week. By our (pretty damn thorough*) count, she did so at least seven times in the past year:
• "Well, he says he's sorry." (1/12/10, The O'Reilly Factor, after Bill O'Reilly asked her whether Harry Reid's apology for controversial remarks on Obama as being "light-skinned" and speaking with "no Negro dialect" was sufficient.)
• "Well, fire me, then, Roger. Sorry. I already failed." (2/7/10, Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace. After Palin refused to make predictions for the 2012 GOP presidential race, Wallace joked, "Well, you're not a very good analyst." "Roger" is Fox News chief Roger Ailes.)
• "Well, I'm sorry I'm late." (9/11/10, Wasilla, Alaska; opening remark at her 9/11 rally.)
• "Or saying, sorry, oops, after the 3 million jobs were lost after your forced-through stimulus package came through the pipe." (10/16/10, Republican National Committee rally in Anaheim, California; giving advice to Obama.)
• "'I want to help clean up the state that is so sorry today of journalism." (11/22/10, Hannity, on not granting interviews to members of the "lamestream media.")
• "Very sorry for Elizabeth Edwards family."(12/7/10, Twitter, after Edwards's death.)
• "I'm sorry that I'm not so hoity-toity." (12/16/10, The O'Reilly Factor, comparing herself to Kate Gosselin.)
*Based on a Nexis-Lexis search of all worldwide news sources, January 12, 2010 to January 12, 2011, with all appearances of the word "sorry" within six matches for "Palin." And we checked around for more. Nothin'.
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/sarah-palin-sorry-011311