From Mediaite:
Now Palin is unwilling to go "full birther" here as she proclaims that personally SHE believes Obama was born in Hawaii, apparently because of the birth announcements in the newspapers, but that she STILL thinks it is a good idea for The Donald to try and get to the bottom of any potential conspiracies.
Really?
So Sister Sarah believes it is perfectly fine for people with the resources to investigate possible cover-ups when it comes to birth certificates? Well that is new information.
Especially since everybody from the McCain campaign, to Andrew Sullivan, to a professor in Kentucky, to yours truly have been asking to see Trig's birth certificate for over two years now. And so far NOTHING.
Oh sure Palin once CLAIMED to have presented it, but in fact that was yet another lie.
But hey now that we know how reasonable the Grizzled Mama thinks it is to ask to see birth certificates, we will have to ratchet up OUR investigation into the ever elusive certificate of live birth for one Trig Paxson Van Palin now won't we?
Thank you for re-energizing our investigation Sarah. As usual you are a valuable asset in keeping this story relevant.
Update: Joe McGinniss has some questions about Trig's birth certificate as well.
She is so out of her mind.
ReplyDeleteCompletely desperate.
Hah! When I tried to play the clip in this post an Ace Hardward ad rolled across the screen with the message "Get fertilizing!" Another appropriate irony!
ReplyDeleteJust found this, don't know if anyone else has posted it, but it made my evening.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/sarah-palins-tipping-point/2011/04/07/AFQAoa0C_blog.html
go for it with gusto gryph!. $arah sounds like a wind-up doll. starts slowly like her grey stuff has to wake up, rips into high speed and back down again. sheesh - i want some of what she's having.
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure it's worth pushing for the birth certificate. First, I don't know about Alaska, but some states issue birth certificates with the adoptive parents' names as the birth parents (or so I've heard). Second, with enough money, anybody can get a forgery of anything. Third, if she presents a birth certificate from either of these scenarios, we will have no credibility in persuing it further.
ReplyDeleteShe's come undone.
ReplyDeleteTodd's out of town at the Arctic Man race in Paxon and she's found the hidden Baileys bottle and pills also too. ubetcha! Can we say WACKO!
ReplyDeleteSarah is now backing off of Obama's birth certificate rhetoric. Could it be that the retard is starting to learn her lesson about accusing people of crap just to make her self look good and to deter questions about her family issues?
ReplyDeleteMaybe Fuck head does not want people to look into her family birth certificate issues like:
1) Who actually provided sperm to create Track?
2) Who provided sperm and who was the recipient of said sperm to create Trigg?
3) Then there is questions on how many kids did Bristol spit out of her money maker?
4) Is Willow with child?
5) Then there are questions about Tawd's love child and was it a secret to the love child’s half brother and sisters (the Palins)?
I would like to see Sarah's birth certificate. Some comments on this very blog have said she was really born in Canada. She's the TransCanadian candidate. I wonder, are the Koch Bros. in bed w/ TransCanada?
ReplyDeleteWhere is Trig's original BC?
ReplyDeleteAnon 9:05
ReplyDeleteKeep that handy, It is getting hard for me to keep up with the sex/births/whiteouts etc!
Who knew.....so many sex related escandalos in one family.
They are busy little beavers, make that rabbits.
This woman is a train wreck and WTF is with her eyes? Is she stoned?
ReplyDeleteObama spent $2 mil to hide it according to both The Dumpster Combover and Snowshoe Snooki and I'm Queen Elizabeth!!!
ReplyDeleteShe did say she thinks he was born in Hawaii, but there is something on his birth certificate that he wants to hide... Didn't he provide a copy of his birth certificate a long time ago?
ReplyDeleteI think she was drugged, drunk or something tonight. I am not sure she fully realizes the implications of her words. She has opened a door that she has tried so hard to keep closed or hidden?
Obama has shown his. It's time for Palin to show Trig's. Everyone needs to call the national media and let them know they cannot continue to give time to, and report on, the birthers without reporting the facts about Palin's last pregnancy and why many people believe she has pulled off a hoax.
ReplyDeleteA birth certificate for Trig is NOT important. One does in fact exist but it proves NOTHING at all. Adoptive parents get a birth certificate that looks just like any other birth certificate from that state. I have no doubt Palin adopted Trig but asking for or accepting a birth certificate as proof of her being the birth mother is pointless.
ReplyDeleteIn most U.S. jurisdictions, at the time the adoption is finalized, the child's name is legally changed, and the court orders the issuance of a new, amended birth certificate for the adopted child. This amended birth certificate:
• replaces the name(s) of the biological parent(s) with the names of the adoptive parent(s), and
• replaces the child's birth name with his/her new name.
The original birth certificate and other documents relating to the adoption are sealed, and are generally not available to parties to the adoption, as detailed in state law in the U.S.
If an older child was adopted the year filed would be a dead giveaway, but Trig was adopted at birth so there would be no tell –tell signs. Some” states do show “as if born to” rather than “born to” but Alaska is not one of them. Also, because adoptions are private this type of court case never appears in a database like court view.
The reason this is SO IMPORTANT to note is that one day she will use that birth certificate to try and prove she is the birth mother and then people will think she’s been telling the truth all along. Don’t aid her in that.
The ONLY way to prove Trig isn’t her birth child is to
1. get your hands on the adoption records – which will never happen,
2. get a DNA test
3. Have the birth mother come forward – which again I doubt will ever happen because chances are the birth mother doesn’t have a clue who adopted their child. The only way they would is if it was a private behind closed doors adoption and that alone would prevent them from coming forward since the agreement would contain a confidentiality clause or because it was an illegal adoption. Or
4. see if Sarah’s medical records list 5 “live births” but all things considered I’m not sure that would be enough proof because it seems Palin has CBJ by the short and curly’s so who knows if she would falsify medical records or not.
In the words of Keith Olberman, "This woman is an idiot!"
ReplyDeleteMy conclusion is...she has now come up with a fake birth certificate for Trig.
ReplyDeleteSarah has probably finally gotten Trig's fake Birth certificate ready, so she's willing to discuss this topic. Then she'll present Trig's and dare the President to show his.
ReplyDeleteTo SME: When we were reading Palin's Deceptions, Audrey suggested that the name of the adoptive child would match the adoptive parents. There were some things that could not be changed on an adoptive birth certificate, namely time and place of birth.
ReplyDeleteThe reason that this is important is because most of the time, Sarah claimed that Trig was born on April 18 at MatSu. People began to question how a small facility with no neonatal facilities could handle a high risk, premature birth, delivery by a doctor (not an OB) who had delivered on a couple of babies that year. Then Sarah remembered that Trig was born at 7 1/2 months in Anchorage.
Many of us thing that he arrived earlier than April 18, 2008, and that would be shown on the birth certificate. The date of birth can't be changed.
The reason that Sarah is suddenly agreeing with Donald Trump might be because she would love to run for VP on the Trump Ticket. The two would be a ratings hit and a political disaster. Trump is stealing all of the headlines, and I think that the Republicans want someone grandstanding like that. It's unlikely that Trump will really run. He won't want to make a financial disclosure. Still, you have to admit that they would be a ratings magnet.
ReplyDeleteWatch that whole segment, the chick's definitely on something. her eyes are almost closed the entire time! She has some serious problem IMO
ReplyDeleteit's wonderful. hardly anyone gives a rip what palin thinks anymore. happy happy joy joy.
ReplyDeleteI agree that her producing the BC at this point would do little to persuade me that she actually did give birth, but she is NOT producing it. Why? Maybe she didn't officially adopt the child. Maybe the date she said he was born is not correct and would then be substituting one lie for another. Something about the BC is causing her not to reveal it. Maybe her reach has its limits and she cannot pay someone enough to go along with making her a fake one. Who the hell knows. At some point, she'll trip herself up, or someone will ask her outright when she least expects it, or someone who knows the facts will come forward.
ReplyDeleteOMG Palin is either drugged or drunk in this interview and her 'friend' acts like she's on speed screeching out her 4th grade questions. What a couple of Airheads!
ReplyDeletehttp://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2011/04/sarah-palin-on-donald-trumps-attempts.html
ReplyDeleteSME@9:52, wouldn't the alaska birth certificate show the date of birth? It is believed Trig was born earlier than 4/18/08.
ReplyDeleteWakeupamerica@8:19, have the state of alaska certify the birth certificate, a did hawaii for obama.
With SO many Swords of Damocles hanging over Palin's empty head, there are many, many subjects which could prove to be her undoing. However, I have a gut feeling that the whole Trig saga will figure most prominently in her ultimate demise.
ReplyDeleteI can't believe that she is so fucking stupid as to back Trump's quest for a BIRTH CERTIFICATE for President Obama. What am I saying? Of COURSE she's that fucking stupid! She reflexively backs anything that is anti-Obama, even if it opens her up to all sorts of scrutiny. I wonder if she'll ever realize this might not be such a good thing for her?
OK, MSM. You've just been given the green light to start badgering the Ignorant Bitch about producing Trig's birth certificate. She put that card in play: it's now fair game.
@9:52 - I also have this feeling that as she starts to support the birther theory, she is feeling pretty comfortable in her own space. It would not surprise me one bit that she will at some point produce a birth certificate for Trig - a forged one. She has made enough money to make it happen...
ReplyDeletePalin has jumped all in in full birther mode before but now sees her chance to hold on to the coattails of The Dumpster and let him take the media heat. She still hopped on board the birther train for the ride as evidenced by her saying there is something on it and that Obama has paid $2 million to keep it hidden. Her saying she thinks he was born in Hawaii because of the newspaper - that's new for her to say as she was 'all in' before.
ReplyDeleteEveryone should read the Kentucky Professor's paper. 26 double-spaced scholarly pages.
ReplyDeleteIt's hard to argue with Dr. Scharlotte's conclusion, that the fake pregnancy rumors are likely true and the Media fell down in not investigating.
Palin's Savior is the MSM; Jeezus would send her straight to hell.
+++ She did say she thinks he was born in Hawaii, but there is something on his birth certificate that he wants to hide... Didn't he provide a copy of his birth certificate a long time ago? +++
ReplyDeleteNo, he showed a reproduction that was created in 1995. Hawaii Governor Abercrombie said he was going to release the original but gave up, couldn't find it.
She acts like she is drunk all the time now.
ReplyDelete8:09, last time I tried to view an SP clip, my laptop shut down. I tried 2 more times, same thing. The laptop has spoken; no more SP video for me!
ReplyDeletewhat is she supposed to say about DONALD "I could have you secretly killed" TRUMP?to knock it off? It's not like she herself supports the movement. All she said was Trump is searching and more power to him.
ReplyDeleteWhat a dumb fucking clod.
ReplyDeleteFrankly—I don't think Sarah legally adopted the kid. Being Sarah, she would not have followed the rules and did what was legal. Too much of a paper trail. She told on herself when she said she showed the birth certificate. BIG LIE—easily proven.
ReplyDeleteHer insurance company had to keep requesting the birth certificate for Trig. Maybe part of her quit was he couldn't be put on her state issued insurance. She needed money to pay for those medical bills he would surely incur. When she quit she kept babbling about him in her speech—very strange. I think she was about to be outed.
Trig will be home schooled his whole life. When Sarah is not using her kids as props she sure can disappear them.
Time to pay off the county records people Sarah.
I'm sure there are some tea baggers working up there who'd like some shopping money.
The stupidest thing about all the birther weirdos is that it doesn't matter if he was born in another country (like McCain). His mom was an American citizen and so is he. Period. Trump is just trying to do what Palin has done, keep his weird hair in the news cycle. I think he's just playing with the media and the GOP, myself.
ReplyDeleteIts all about DNA. She can run but she can't hide from that, and sooner or later someone is going to be able to show us her and Trig's DNA.
ReplyDeleteWhat a sordid group the Palin family have revealed themselves to be. They're first class troublemakers who parade around as celebrities (royalty) while treating everyone else with disdain.
Hell, jet-setting rock stars don't have as many riders on their contracts as Sarah has for her speaking engagements.
Expose the truth, Gryph. It's sickening to see lies given creedence.
SME...I agree with your main point about Trig's birth certificate showing that Todd and Sarah are his parents, but disagree on two main issues :
ReplyDeleteDate of birth - this cannot be changed . I do not believe Trig was born on April 18, 2008.
Place of birth- Mat-su Valley Hospital does not even birth twins, much less premature Downs Sydrome infants with known heart defects.
Also, I believe that Trig is blood family, not some random DS kid pulled out of a hat for the sole purpose of securing a VP nod. The truth of his parentage must be much worse than the consequences of revealing that a sitting governor faked a pregnancy (and not very well I might add). And, no I do not think Bristol is the only bio mom possibility.
Anyway, if Sarah could show Trig's birth certificate and medical records she would, but she can't, and never will.
sarah, dear, never wear the yellow.
ReplyDeleteThe yellow makes you look like a wheel of cheese.
You need to lose 40lbs of fat.
Lose the weight and be awesome again.
Drop the cellulite.
Watch your ratings soar! Little girls will want to dress up like you again.
I promise.
It bothers me that people who are reportedly "intelligent" can even ask her a question relating to ANYTHING. She loves the sound of her own screeching voice. So much for actually thinking the judge was smart, savvy, streetwise. I already know $carah is an idiot. When is her Faux contract up, because surely they will not renew it?
ReplyDeleteI still think that the tubal ligation is more of a clincher than a birth cert. for reasons that commenters have already given. Of course, even tubals aren't 100% effective but that would make the fake pregnancy so much more unbelievable than it already is. Someone that knows what really happened would be the best, but I don't see that happening, soon at least.
ReplyDeleteSarah makes Bristol look skinny. Her eyelids are so fat she can barely keep her eyes open.
ReplyDeleteHey Sarah, you fat ass, back away from the Crisco.
Someone must have concocted a nice fake cert or commandeered a real state cert and filled it out fraudulently. There is no other reason for her hubris in pushing a cert issue.
ReplyDeleteWell, she is deranged..there is that.
Anyway, the cat is out of the bag. No cert will be good enough anymore. WAY too late.
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ReplyDeleteSME said...
A birth certificate for Trig is NOT important. One does in fact exist but it proves NOTHING at all. Adoptive parents get a birth certificate that looks just like any other birth certificate from that state. I have no doubt Palin adopted Trig but asking for or accepting a birth certificate as proof of her being the birth mother is pointless.
In most U.S. jurisdictions, at the time the adoption is finalized, the child's name is legally changed, and the court orders the issuance of a new, amended birth certificate for the adopted child. This amended birth certificate:
• replaces the name(s) of the biological parent(s) with the names of the adoptive parent(s), and
• replaces the child's birth name with his/her new name.
The original birth certificate and other documents relating to the adoption are sealed, and are generally not available to parties to the adoption, as detailed in state law in the U.S.
If an older child was adopted the year filed would be a dead giveaway, but Trig was adopted at birth so there would be no tell –tell signs. Some” states do show “as if born to” rather than “born to” but Alaska is not one of them. Also, because adoptions are private this type of court case never appears in a database like court view.
The reason this is SO IMPORTANT to note is that one day she will use that birth certificate to try and prove she is the birth mother and then people will think she’s been telling the truth all along. Don’t aid her in that.
The ONLY way to prove Trig isn’t her birth child is to
1. get your hands on the adoption records – which will never happen,
2. get a DNA test
3. Have the birth mother come forward – which again I doubt will ever happen because chances are the birth mother doesn’t have a clue who adopted their child. The only way they would is if it was a private behind closed doors adoption and that alone would prevent them from coming forward since the agreement would contain a confidentiality clause or because it was an illegal adoption. Or
4. see if Sarah’s medical records list 5 “live births” but all things considered I’m not sure that would be enough proof because it seems Palin has CBJ by the short and curly’s so who knows if she would falsify medical records or not.
9:52 PM
blah blah blah
The birthdate will not be April 18th that is why a BC IS Important
Have the birth mother come forward – which again I doubt will ever happen because chances are the birth mother doesn’t have a clue who adopted their child. The only way they would is if it was a private behind closed doors adoption and that alone would prevent them from coming forward since the agreement would contain a confidentiality clause or because it was an illegal adoption
ReplyDeleteConveniently burned in a church fire. OOOPPS. What are the chances??
Does she ever comb her hair, why does she do interviews in raincoats or slickers?
ReplyDeleteShe looked like she was drunk. Fox Snooze is horrible, and Scarah is a dumbazz.
So in a matter of weeks, questioning Obama's citizenship is no longer a "distraction" as she previously said. Well, she knows what side her bread is buttered. The very same fools that donate to her PAC are now enthralled with Trump...and rallying to his side will help keep the money flowing in from these gullible idiots.
ReplyDeleteWonder who Trig is living with now? I don't believe he is with Sarah anymore unless he is a child of Bristol or Track.
ReplyDeleteMaybe he is Sarah's sister's child.
To add to my last post, it was a "distraction" to question Obama's citizenship when non-famous rank and file tea partiers did. But now that a celebrity rich person is doing so, it's a-ok in Sarah's book! (Let's not forget she was also enthralled enough with his ex-wife to lie to her husband about going to gawk at her at a mall.)
ReplyDeleteYeah, she's all about the regular Joe, isn't she?
If I remember all of the discussion of Trig's birth certificate correctly, then yes, as some have pointed out,it could be a revised birth certificate because of adoption. But as far as I know, they don't change the birth DATE on the adoptive version. You can't just say the kid was born the day somebody adopted him. It has to have his correct birth DATE. And that is part of the issue. Just as nobody has been able to confirm that Trig is or is not Sarah's biological child, we also have not been able to confirm the birth date of Trig. That is really the only piece of information that we can gain from the certificate itself.
ReplyDeleteAnd no, I didn't watch her. Can't. Makes me want to smack her.
ReplyDeleteAnd the only irony they understand in Wasilla is the giant pile of clothes on the ironing board at Sarah's house. Piper has gotten behind while trying to write her memoirs.
ReplyDeleteSarah... what newspaper published Trig's birth announcement?
ReplyDeleteor Tripp's for that matter?
Sarah .. how big of an idiot are you?
First, I don't know about Alaska, but some states issue birth certificates with the adoptive parents' names as the birth parents (or so I've heard).
ReplyDeleteyes they do. However, they don't fudge the birth date - and I don't think any of the babies were born on 4/18/08. ;<
Is this dumb idiot on drugs or drink? She is a mess and looks horrible.
ReplyDeleteAnything to get talked about. $$ gets paid to say nothing but lies.
ReplyDeleteYou know somethings wrong.
ReplyDeleteTodd is starting to ask Sarah to see Track's and Trigg's birth certificate.
He wants to know how does she get pregnant?
womanwithsardinecan said...
ReplyDeleteAnd the only irony they understand in Wasilla is the giant pile of clothes on the ironing board at Sarah's house. Piper has gotten behind while trying to write her memoirs.
5:23 AM
Piper has gotten behind on her memoirs because she just learned her A, B and Cs. Next week she starts on her D, E and Fs.
Whooper she can spew all the talking points! It's so funny now she can only use retreat, she has had to drop reload.
ReplyDeleteOf all the weeks available in a year to have a broken computer! I'm posting from my iPhone ( and it is a PITA) but I wanted to join in the discussion.
ReplyDeleteI agree with anon @ 4:33am... The tubal ligation would be a better avenue, short of DNA .... If only the ladies would come foreward with that information, the timing of it would be excellent.
I remember Audrey saying a BC would have the real birth date but I do not trust her appointed friends in every level of government there .... They've done all her bidding thus far, why wouldn't they produce a BC to her specifications?
Ladies-of-Wasilla-who-know-about- the-tubal PLEASE come forward now and help our country rid itself of this grifting bitch from hell !
The only birth certificate that will tell the true story is the original copy. Where are the original copies kept? In my state, the original copy (long form) is kept in the office of Board of Health in the town where the birth took place. In the case of adoption, there are two birth certificates, one that has the birth mother's name and sealed over this is the birth certificate with the adoptive parents names.
ReplyDeleteGiven Palin's penchant for corruption, am sure that she managed to have someone "lose" the originals and she is now in possession of a manufactured copy with the correct date.
It is unfortunate that one cannot search for the original hospital records for a live birth and also a previous tubal ligation.
eeeeuw - green and yellow in those shades? ONly place those ever look even marginally good is on the cute butts of those Wisconsin football players - the uhh Backers? Smackers? oh yeah PACKERS.
ReplyDeleteLOL, overdoit Sarah at it again, from within her home studio she is wearing a raincoat? Why doesn't she hold an umbrella and walk around saying "Tut tut, it looks like rain" while the host is asking the contributor for her views?
ReplyDeleteWhy didn't she wear her Arctic Cat gear during Iron Dog cause it was cold and snowy outside? Or better yet, a fur ruff parka?
Or a sweaty tshirt and say she just got done running a half marathon while carrying Trig on her back.
What a dolt.
++No, he showed a reproduction that was created in 1995. Hawaii Governor Abercrombie said he was going to release the original but gave up, couldn't find it.
ReplyDelete11:55 PM++
This is bullshit, ignorant birther nonsense. For one thing, you can't just access someone's birth certificate. Even the governor has no right to get the birth certificate of someone other than himself. Get your head out of your own ass and stop being such a racist.
This woman is vile! She doesn't want anyone to attack her or her family, but she has no qualms about attacking President Obama or his wife.
ReplyDeleteWhere are her so called Christian Values or Family Values? I guess she sold them a long time ago to the GOP, the Tea Party and anyone else who will wave a shiny nickel at this clown.
Hypocritical bitch....but that's normal for flying monkeys....
ReplyDeleteSeem to me if she was Governor at the time that there would have been a big announcement in the papers.
ReplyDeleteSeveral have debunked my premise that a birth certificate doesn't matter because you feel the birth date won't match. I do understand your concern, however, let me assure you a copy of the BC was requested for Trig's PFD and one was submitted. Regardless of the fact she was Governor at the time she did have to submit a BC for him to get a PFD.
ReplyDeleteIt is quite possible she submitted a very well done forgery or he really was born on 4.18 but the date is correct on his BC.
Someone I know works in PFD and they confirmed a BC was submitted. I think Palin was well prepared for all of this and the reason she flew back when she did was to tie it all in to his actual birth.
The real problem here is that if and when she submits a BC to the public it will work in her favor because that is what all of you are asking her to do. BUT... it still doesn't prove anything. When no one is happy with that as proof she will play victim again and say they asked for it and still don't believe it.
Concrete proof is required, that means getting DNA.
I believe you, SME... I mentioned above I don't trust any BC produced by her as she has many friends appointed in the govt and they would fake, forge, whatever she needs. I also believe you because she seems unconcerned ( altered or fake BC already procured). That's why DNA or appeal to the people who know about her tubal may be the better avenues to pursue IMHO.
ReplyDeleteWhen will this nightmare end?
I really don't get what Trump's end game here is...he will never financially disclose his assets, so its highly doubtful he will actually run for president.
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