Monday, June 13, 2011

Another Palin-bot sees the light. John Ziegler TRASHES the the Grizzled Mama in Daily Caller article.

Here are some of the highlights in the Ziegler piece.

On his fear that what Palin is currently doing is destructive to her cause and to the country.

I say this as the guy who risked $300,000 of his life savings to produce the very first pro-Sarah documentary back in 2009 (and the only one with her participation), while putting everything on the line to fight countless battles on her behalf—such as demonstrating outside David Letterman’s studios in New York after the late night talk show host made a joke about 14-year-old Willow Palin getting “knocked up,” being dragged away in handcuffs from a laughable awards ceremony for the liberal ‘news’ anchor Katie Couric, getting regularly attacked as a guest by liberal hosts on MSNBC, and responding with $100,000 offers to charity to debate them on her behalf.

I’ve fought so hard for Sarah, I’m almost unemployable.

On Todd admitting to being a kept man:

Todd called me later to ask if I was okay, which I thought was nice of him. He’s clearly a tough guy, someone you’d definitely want with you if you got lost in the Alaskan wilderness, but underneath that, he seems like a gentle soul and a great husband. In fact, when we last spoke, he was asking me how I was paying the bills while going out to bat for Sarah, and I told him that I was lucky to have a wife who worked as a school teacher. “So… you’re just like me,” he said. He was joking—I think. Whatever, it takes balls to admit you’re a kept man.On his impressions of Wasilla, and Sarah Palin without her makeup:




The entire Palin property was practically a block of ice. First thing I see: moose antlers hanging from a tree, with a sign nailed to the trunk saying, ‘The Palins.’ I felt like I’d walked into a Norman Rockwell painting. Bristol opens the door wearing sweatpants and a T-shirt, looking totally uninterested in what I’m doing there, as one would expect from an 18-year-old with a newborn. Little Trip is crying. The ‘First Dude’, Todd—a man of very few words, but a good guy, even though he looks like he could kick your ass—was in another room somewhere, looking after Trig, who famously suffers from Down Syndrome.Then Sarah walks in to welcome us, like she’s late for a date—boots, jacket, black skirt, no make-up yet. She’s a beautiful woman, but frankly, I almost didn’t recognize her. Maybe it was the nerves.




On RAM's agreement that Sarah quitting her job as Governor doomed her politically.

If she hadn’t resigned, the state would have practically ground to a halt. Plus, thanks to having to defend herself legally against largely bogus ethics complaints, she needed money, which meant it was essential to take advantage of her limited window of celebrity. So she did her best with a really bad hand of cards. But there was no denying the consequences. In fact, not long after she made the announcement, while I was on my way to Yosemite National Park for an annual family get-away, I received an e-mail from Rebecca.

“Shit, it’s over,” is all it said.

When I caught up with Rebecca on the phone later that day, we agreed that if you resigned after two years of a governorship, you were a ‘quitter’ in voters’ eyes. Your protests to the contrary would be futile.

Of course Ziegler is not ready to admit that Palin was a fraud all the way through, he does have a movie to sell after all, but he does reveal some rather interesting and damning things in the rest of the article.

I don't usually urge anybody to read the Daily Caller, but go ahead and click the link, I think you will find most of it more than palatable.

84 comments:

  1. Anonymous2:23 AM

    He still has the hits for her. He just thinks she is being misadvised.

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  2. Anonymous2:44 AM

    I read this last night. I would recommend that you read it only if you want to read A LOT of defense of Sarah Palin and attacks on Democrats and the media. For example, here is why Ziegler claims Katie Couric won an award for her interview of Palin: For asking her what newspapers she reads.

    Wrong! I guess he's being glib, but if there was any one moment in that interview (and there were many "moments") that screwed Palin, it was her answer to the bailout question. And what screwed her? He own, stupid, nonsensical words. But no, according to Ziegler, Couric is just part of the dreaded MSM, who waged an unprecedentedly vicious campaign against the sweetheart from Wasilla.

    Ziegler is an unmitigated ass, but if you want to sift through that long article to find that he thinks she's unelectable because she quit as Gov. of Alaska (no matter how understandable that was, according to him, due to all the meanie ethics complaints and the horrible media!), have at it. By the way, he thinks she did it for her family. Hilarious.

    To me, the one interesting tidbit was that Ziegler corresponded with RAM shortly after the Quitter quit. RAM's reaction: Shit, it's over.

    Well, we all know that she went on to work with the Quitter, so I guess she either changed her mind that "it's over", or was convinced that, hell, she might as well ride that gravy train, too!

    The other funny aspect of the article is that Ziegler seems to have more of a crush on Todd than on Sarah. He thinks he is a super tough guy, but - also too - comfortable enough in his masculinity that he doesn't mind being "a kept man". LMAO.

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  3. Dis Gusted3:04 AM

    such as demonstrating outside David Letterman’s studios in New York after the late night talk show host made a joke about 14-year-old Willow Palin getting “knocked up,”


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    at first I was bullshit that SP changed Letterman's words and suggested he was joking about Willow instead of Bristol.

    In retrospect, wondering if SP went ballistic because Willow actually was pregnant at some point.

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  4. Dis Gusted3:06 AM

    Plus, thanks to having to defend herself legally against largely bogus ethics complaints,


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    the biggest complaint was the ethics case she filed AGAINST HERSELF. It cost more than all the other complaints combined. Way to spend the money, SP!

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  5. FloridaDem3:08 AM

    This guy is amazing. It's never Sarah's fault. It's her staff's fault, it's the media's fault, etc. My advice to him is look no further than the source.

    The reason his relationship with Sarah Inc. was rocky and unpredictable even with his abounding love for her, is because Sarah DOES run things. And she clearly uses people.

    I found it funny that he thought RAM didn't know she was resigning, or that resigning was a decision for her family, not her. Wow, talk about drinking the koolaid.

    If Sarah was solid, she could have easily completed her term as gov, used her likability to keep her poll numbers up, learn the hard stuff, and re-emerge as a mature leader. But if she's a scam from day one, this isn't really an option, right? So she got out onto the money train.

    It's also amazing he portrays a Mother Teresa moderate-type politician (That meme seems to be coming up lately), who was only "forced" to embrace the tea party radicals because media destroyed her credibility with the middle. Excuse me...isn't this the woman who went on a radical rampage DURING McCain's campaign? Didn't she embarrass him more than once?

    He needs to put some eye drops in his eyes and unplug his ears.

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  6. Very interesting article. He's still smitten with the Wasilla fraud but episodes in his relationship with her have pried his eyes open just a little. The mere fact that he has read "Blind Allegiance" was telling. Hang on to your hats as the Palin crew will now attempt to destroy him.

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  7. It never seems to have occurred to them that Palin could have solved all of her problems through the simple expedience of acting ethically.

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  8. Barns/yarns3:34 AM

    Looks like Zeigler left his balls hanging with the moose antlers at the Palin compound. He sure had a hard on for her.


    He also is stupid as hell; he thinks Sarah is so smart and that she was smarter than Reagan. He whines on about the media gushing over Obama and the media trashing Sarah.


    Personally, I think he just wanted to have a happy happy boom boom with the twitter quitter.


    He sure was drooling over the idiot woman known as Sarah Palin.

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  9. Anonymous3:40 AM

    Trashes?? Where does he "trash" her? All I read is a whole lot of panty sniffing and accolades for how great she still is. He just blames others for her downfall.

    Am I missing something?

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  10. DebinWI3:50 AM

    Great article -- not nitpicking, but you have a typo in the sentence starting with "On RAM's agreement..."

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  11. Anonymous3:54 AM

    On Joe McGinniss' blog today:
    Of Sarah, "She has the intellectual engagement of a bored seventh-grader, the attention span of a five-year old, and the impulse control of a toddler suffering from the terrible twos."

    http://www.joemcginniss.net/palin-suckup-has-hurt-feelings-whines/Joe%20McGinniss#comments

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  12. This is just the beginning of the turnarounds, jumping ship before She sinks.

    Off topic, but what happened to the advert (a big square) on your blog and every other site that said SHOULD SARAH PALIN RUN?

    Was it a Google advert?

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  13. A J Billings3:56 AM

    Ziegler has some good points, but notice he still perpetrates the myth that " Alaska would have ground to a halt " with all the ethics complaints.

    That is utter tripe. He also doesn't mention troopergate and PAYlin's obvious violation of the ethics code, for which she was cited by the state.

    He also just glosses over the obvious and glaring deficiencies she has in knowledge about economics, history, etc.

    And for me, the final nail in $paylin's career is that everything is "G_d's will", and shes chosen. and anointed by the christian dominionists who want theocracy by force of law.

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  14. Anonymous4:10 AM

    Ziegler seems sincere and forthright he was motivated to seek justice for what he was convinced was unfair media treatment.

    I picked up on frequent chaos of receiving mixed and conflicting messages from Palin and her staff. That is typical with a personality disordered person. It is also typical for them to say yes to one side, no to the other then dump blame onto someone else. It goes undetected the disordered person flips from one extreme to another.

    It is also classic behavior to slam or make a helpful person the object of humiliation discrediting them as Ziegler also experienced.

    Bailey's book and clarity away from the chaos will benefit others like Ziegler comprehend what happened.

    I am finding it sick and pathetic Todd and others go along with irrational delusions eg the family vacation/teach history tour or DWTS is paving a road to the oval office.

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  15. Anonymous4:10 AM

    Mediate has a good post up about Ziegler's feeling of alienation from Palin: "My relationship with Sarah hit another pothole early in 2010 when I advised her via e-mail that her upcoming speech to the Tea Party Convention in Nashville was creating controversy because the event was both expensive and for-profit. She forwarded my message to her team, apparently forgetting to delete my address, with the comment, “If I have to suffer thru Ziegler’s e-mails, we ALL have to suffer thru.” Wow, that was a punch in the gut. Less than four minutes later, a panicked follow-up pinged into my Blackberry’s inbox: “John—pls [sic] know that was a joke! . . . you’re [sic] advice is very good, we have announced I will not be financially gaining from the speech, we need to get that word out there.”
    http://www.mediaite.com/online/john-ziegler-expose´-reveals-todd-palin-approached-him-to-work-on-sarah-palin-2012-campaign/

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  16. Virginia Voter4:14 AM

    Yikes, Zeigler = Frank Bailey 2.0.

    What is it with these conservative freaks who get hard ons for both Sarah and Todd? Ziegler sounds like a jilted lover, gross.

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  17. Anonymous4:23 AM

    According to John, Sarah was "... essentially sequestered from the national media in Alaska..."

    In my opinion, she still is, by her own doing. And this is because every time she tries to venture out from behind the protection of FAUX media and one-way social networking she flounders.

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  18. angela4:27 AM

    But he doesn't really trash Palin. He sure as hell whines a lot though. He trashes her unnamed advisors, the media, Fox, President Obama and absolutely everyone else in the world he thinks has hurt Sarah.

    This most assuredly is a man in love who won't admit he found his true love butchering puppies. It can't be her-- he moans. She's smart, sensitive, fearless and perfectly fabulous and those puppy parts on her shirt were thrown there by someone else.

    So what does Zeigler believe? Does he believe a smart woman would make the stupid decisions Palin has made? Does he believe Bailey or not? Because if he does---he'd have to believe his Queen is lazy, cruel, careless and vindictive. So this piece of crap he has written is the biggest piece of shit outside of a sewage processing plant, and so is Ziegler.

    I do not feel sorry for him yet because Sarah has only rolled over part of his torso with her big assed bus.

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  19. CharlotteB4:32 AM

    Hopefully that is the first in a long line of people who want to stop enabling her! The cover of World magazine (premiere Christianist mag, home of Sarah Palin's ghostwriter) has a cartoon on their latest cover of all the candidates; the depiction of Palin is EXTREMELY telling...she's in heels and miniskirt while all the other candidates are riding away on bikes :-)

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  20. Anonymous4:43 AM

    This is a VERY interesting article, on many levels. In particular, there is this:

    "...I can assure you that the number of ardent Palin supporters, while very significant, is largely overstated..."

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  21. Anonymous4:52 AM

    Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy (of course, I am being sarcastic). Ziegler is a right wing hack and chief Palin pantysniffer never in charge, much to his obvious chagrin. Poor John. He'll get no sympathy on the left and they are decimating him in the comment section of the Daily Caller. I am glad he woke up to the real Sarah Palin though.

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  22. Anonymous4:55 AM

    After reading this, I nominate this guy as the King of the Dipshits. Or maybe he could make up with Sarah and be Idiot King to her Queen?

    He writes that Palin is "clearly brilliant" (ha ha ha ha ha), yet he states time and again that he (attempted) to feed her talking points, answers, etc., and she either ignored him or "butchered" them and ended up looking dumb. Also, she is so goddamn stupid that she replied all to an email from him, mocking him to her staff! And this is the genius that he thinks could win the Presidency in 2012..... if it weren't for the big, bad "liberal media"!

    Typical, excuses, excuses, delusion, delusion.

    He still wants us to believe this: "After all, contrary to popular belief, she is incredibly smart."

    Yeah, sure she is, John.

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  23. This guy is the worst panty sniffer I've ever seen. However, he is also as dumb as a bag of rocks. He throws everyone, including Queen Sarah under the bus, in this whiny ode to himself. I think he has also driven the final nail into RAM's coffin here.

    "When after the 2008 election all hopes of being the Republican bridge builder (not the kind to “nowhere”) were destroyed by the unfair media coverage."

    No, John. Destroyed by her gleeful acceptance of the role of "attack pitbull" for the McCain campaign.

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  24. Anonymous4:59 AM

    This is interesting, Gryphen...

    Remember when he initially wrote about meeting them? He'd said Bristol was in another ROOM tending to Tripp. When pressed, he admitted that he had not actually SEEN any babies that day.

    Just another example of how narratives NEVER stay the same where the babies are concerned.


    I also normally would not promote the DC. But ever since they published tweets resulting in The Silence Of The RAM...I have to love them a tiny, teensy bit.

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  25. Anonymous5:03 AM

    "....her office put out one of it’s by now familiar statements, essentially blaming the Simi Valley women for what happened. They were left fuming, and wanted to go to the press, so it was up to me to extinguish the brush fire before it evolved into yet another excuse for the Palin-hating news networks to once again pile on."

    So let me see if I have this right, she screwed up but if it got reported it would be because the LSM is biased?

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  26. Anonymous5:12 AM

    That was barf worthy. He thinks she has been badly treated, she's a victim of the press, blah, blah. Of course she is still "brilliant"in Ziegler's estimation. That shows you how stupid he is. He also mentions her giving birth to Trig, which we all know is not true. I think Ziegler is a tool.

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  27. Anonymous5:14 AM

    Another interesting tidbit from the article regarding the leaked tweets from Rebecca Mansour published at the Daily Caller:

    "...Tucker Carlson, the co-founder the site, ... said he’d actually had to redact many of Rebecca’s other remarks to protect the Palin family."

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  28. Anonymous5:16 AM

    All Palin has to do is 'wink' at him and he'll be sniffin' her panties again.

    Seriously, I think he wrote this to get attention. The talk is about Palin's movie and not Ziegler's. He's jealous and pissed he wasn't asked.

    Give him a minute and he'll be slobbering all over himself again. He's still carrying water for Palin as the writing is more BS lies than any truth. Ziegler is out to get attention for himself - not much diff than Palin.

    I don't buy a word of it.

    3, 2, 1....He'll be apologizing and drinking her koolaid

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  29. Anonymous5:18 AM

    I found the article creepy, funny, and sad. He's like a little puppy who would still come crawling back after being kicked. This man is starting to see the light, but one smile and lick of the lips from Sarah, and he'd heel.
    What is with people being so infatuated with celebrities??

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  30. Anonymous5:24 AM

    Ziegler still making excuses for Sarah. My grandma always said "What you don't deal with, deals with you". Guess Sarah never learned that.

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  31. Anonymous5:25 AM

    The same Bot BS - the Dems filed all the ethics charges.

    Evidence he's never read a thing about Palin. He smoked her wacky tobaccy - hook, line and sinker - AND STILL DOES.

    We won't see or hear about it, but as soon as the article was posted -- you can be guaranteed an apology was sent that he 'doesn't mean it'.

    Too many clues - He spoke to RAM about the quitting and she was finished. NOT. RAM would not have trusted for her to say that as it easily would have got back to Palin and RAM would be toast as it was still early in the Palin/RAM relationship.

    Sorry -- nothing he said is believable. He's attention seeking - he's job hunting. He's an idiot

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  32. Anonymous5:26 AM

    After complaining about the media being to blame for Sarah's poor image, he says:

    "...the real enabler (in the ultimate irony) is the media..."

    then later,

    "...the conservative media is largely afraid to tell the truth about the dangers of a Palin campaign..."

    Which is it? The media is bad or the media is good? There's no pleasing this guy. He really seems rather pathetic but this is the type of person Sarah attracts and he does give a good behind the scenes view of Sarah's operation that reinforces what we've been hearing from others that have worked with her (and Todd).

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  33. Olivia5:31 AM

    I wonder how many times Sarah has to kick this guy in the crotch before he falls out of love with her. He has almost as many excuses for her idiocy as she does. It's always someone else's fault. What a putz!

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  34. Anonymous5:36 AM

    "...put yourself in her shoes ... You are surely questioning what you did to deserve all this as you survey your life suddenly in disarray." (pre-VP pick) "Then the phone rings, and instantly you’re being asked to run for Vice President of the United States! In an instant, everything makes sense: this is your destiny"

    How on earth does that make sense?

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  35. Anonymous5:36 AM

    O/T

    Just watched the Today Show where Al Roker with their 'Lend A Hand' segments daily this week, presented donations of goods and $$ totalling 1.9 million to AK Pride, a charity organization in Anchorage that helps kids.

    It looks/sounds like the organization does some great work.

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  36. Anonymous5:46 AM

    For those who didn't care to read the whole thing, I'll summarize:

    The first 3/4ths is:
    Sarah Palin is the bestest, most beautiful, smartest, most awesome wife and mother in the whole world, but she has a lousy staff who doesn't advise her very well.

    Also, too, the ebil liberal media hates her and has turned the whole world against her because they hate the fact that she's the bestest, most beautiful, smartest, most awesome wife and mother in the whole world. She quit because of the ebil liberal media being all mean and stuff to her. She and McCain would be in the White House if not for the ebil liberal media.

    Any criticism of her from big name Republicans is because they have been listening to the ebil liberal media who hates her because she's the bestest, most beautiful, smartest, most awesome wife and mother in the whole world.


    The last 1/4 is:
    He gets his feelings hurt after being shut out by the Palins. He also reads Blind Allegiance and believes Bailey's behind the scenes account.

    The media is still ebil and he comes to the conclusion that if Sarah Palin truly is the bestest, most beautiful, smartest, most awesome wife and mother in the whole world, then she won't run for POTUS in 2012.

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  37. Anonymous5:51 AM

    I disagree with most of these comments. I think Zeigler wrote a piece that hinted to a conclusion in the end, that it was not the staff's fault, but Sarah's. I think he carefully tried to not criticize Sarah, butcame to the realization that this woman doesn't have it together.

    Though I was frustrated that he still claims she's intelligent, yet he did not present any evidence. He himself used to send her scripts to defend herself. Why? Obviously he knew she couldn't compose a lucid thought.

    The take away..... even a die hard fan can see thru the beer goggles up close.

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  38. Anonymous5:59 AM

    She's a Quitter. For all the nicknames and titles peopl give for her, she's still just a Quitter.
    And I love that that is the one thing her handlers hate, and know is true.

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  39. Anonymous $:59 said... He'd said Bristol was in another ROOM tending to Tripp. When pressed, he admitted that he had not actually SEEN any babies that day.

    Particularly since there's been discussion about whether or when Bristol had Tripp, and since I think Tripp was born around the end of January 2009, I immediately wondered how this article (which I haven't yet read) jibed with his January 2009 statements where he claimed to have seen Bristol and he did not say she was still pregnant.

    There is one crying baby somewhere in the Palin house--could be Trig. But Bristol in a Tshirt would have to look either not pregnant, albeit postpartum, or 8-ish mos. pregnant.

    If Ziegler is being truthful, Tripp had been born by then or Bristol never was pregnant with him. Or it was Willow who answered the door. Or the cousin. Or Ziegler is in on a Tripp hoax.

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  40. Anonymous6:06 AM

    Ziegler is like Frank, they think with their johnson first. I really don't understand the allure of her. All that bar-fly jingo and her sexual innuendo's must work with a certain demographic. I just don't get it. Still, I read the article in its entirety and it was really sick. Funny though he told her the truth about being electable. I tend to agree that she will flounder the closer she gets to announcing and once she announces the gloves will come off in the RNC.

    His comments about RAM were interesting as well.

    And his defense of her quitting because she didn't want to bankrupt Alaska and bring government to a standstill over her ethics violations is interesting.

    One - she seems to have done very little governing, and her staff seems to have followed suit

    Two - where are the emails about the ethics violations? Did I miss them somewhere? If they were consuming the government then why aren't they all over the emails?

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  41. Anonymous6:16 AM

    If anything shows you what a hypocrite Tucker Carlson is, it is the fact that--as Ziegler claims--he "redacted" many of RAM's Tweets to "protect the Palin family."

    He had no such compunction about protecting Anthony Weiner, and we can bet money he would not have redacted similar comments about the Obama family.

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  42. Anonymous6:17 AM

    OK

    Slam me if you must - what is Sara's hold on these people? Why do I have an image of her sexually coming on to men she wants to use. I don't mean they get to goodies - or whatever they are - but she makes it clear that's a possibility? A little leg? an open blouse? You know, the classic moves of a tease? I don't understand how she manages otherwise.

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  43. Anonymous6:22 AM

    Anon 5:46 Great summary!
    I can't believe he got arrested for her and picketed Letterman.

    He came across as a 'rescuer' to me.

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  44. Anonymous6:33 AM

    O/T
    Sarah Palin's Emails Written At 8th Grade Level -- Better Than Some CEOs
    http://weirdnews.aol.com/2011/06/13/sarah-palin-writing-level_n_874790.html

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  45. Anonymous6:34 AM

    Ziegler is a notorious misogynist and a real jerk, if you've followed his career. When he started supporting her (read: salivating after) I predicted he would have his moment of disillusionment and turn on her.

    No doubt it's happened, and in this case I can almost sympathize with Sarah. Ziegler is a real creep - in the end, his fetishization of must have been so intense that even the prime narcissist she is was creeped out.

    More than likely, she didn't return his affection in some way - I don't mean sexually, I mean by not paying him enough attention, or by only using him when he was useful to her. So now he's turned on her. Note the subtle personal digs against her appearance. It's his MO.

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  46. Anonymous6:42 AM

    I think Ziegler is pissed that he has not been invited to ride the Palin gravy train.

    Specifically, he feels he sacrificed much more than Rebecca Mansour, yet he was rebuffed, and she is "in".

    He is STILL in denial about Granny Bendy-Straws personality disorder.

    My g-d, all she had to do was make a clear "Yes" or "No" decision to speak at the Simi Valley fund raiser and stick with that decision.

    The article was full of excuses for her ignorance and bad behavior; if Granny calls him up and sweet talks him, he'll be kneeling before her so she can kick him again.

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  47. Anonymous6:44 AM

    Ziegler says..., Ziegler writes..., Ziegler thinks...

    HA

    The Ziegler we are hearing from is his little head, there is no brain involved. He has no information, no opinions, no insight of value because the man is still unaware that Sarah Palin is a sociopath.

    Ziegler needs a cult de-programmer and a decent political education before what Ziegler "says, thinks, writes" has any value.

    One would think the guy's friends would stop him from embarassing himself further. The Ziegler article is practically sexting Sarah Palin.

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  48. Anonymous6:50 AM

    4:59 AM
    resulting in The Silence Of The RAM...


    LIKE

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  49. Anonymous6:56 AM

    I read this before I went to bed last night and slept pretty well. But JZ is such a god-awful puss-head, you just know he'd eat Palin's dirt again if she played nice. Doesn't matter how much shit she made him eat. He's also useless on babygate, like Bailey. Too bad.

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  50. Anonymous7:01 AM

    Ziegler's prepared rebuttal to the flying monkeys:

    http://www.thesarahpaliniknow.com/

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  51. After reading the Ziegler article, I'm convinced that John Ziegler thought by being Palin's defender it meant he had the VIP pass into her inner circle and when it didn't, he was STUNNED.

    It's funny that someone who was never formally hired to work for Palin IN ANY CAPACITY willingly spent money to maintain a tenuous connection to Palin. And disturbing.

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  52. Anonymous7:11 AM

    When the ship goes down, the rats look for a paycheck anywhere they can find it.

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  53. angela7:19 AM

    Anon 6:34

    Really? Almost sympathize with Sarah? This is her MO.
    She uses the infatuated then kicks the crap out of them. Suddenly Ziegler is different from Bill Kristol, Sean Hannity and the rest--huh?

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  54. Anonymous7:33 AM

    Yeah Mr. Zeigler, and I'll bet you think strippers in the club fall in love with you too.

    I feel no sympathy for this jerk at all. He's the one who took it upon himself to take up the role of Stupid Sarah's savior -- the one who had to go out and clean up the messes this dumb woman made, and for what? I wonder how his wife felt about him blowing $300K in an effort to get Stupid to pay him some attention. You hitch your wagon to a dying, idiot star, that's on you Z.

    He really comes across as that guy that buys a woman a drink and goes on to act like they're in a serious relationship.

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  55. Anonymous7:36 AM

    He was in love with her. But this is yet another example of how $arah can't hire a good staff and can't manage the staff she has. And she would bring those poor management skills to the oval office, much to the detriment of our country.

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  56. Anonymous8:13 AM

    This article is a bunch of BS. Ziegler had me up until he said Sarah is incredibly smart and the MSM was out to get her. Give me a break!! The media promoted Palin.

    Like Bailey, Ziegler sounds like a jaded lover. I wonder about the wives of these men who have the hots for the Alaskan Dingbat, including Governor Parnell. Seriously, these men have dedicated a lot of their time and gave up their integrity for Palin. If I was married to one of them, I wouldn't be too happy about my man slobbering over the nincompoop.

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  57. Anonymous8:21 AM

    It's the starbursts, folks (via Andrew Sullivan).

    "I’m sure I'm not the only male in America who, when Palin dropped her first wink, sat up a little straighter on the couch and said, "Hey, I think she just winked at me." And her smile. By the end, when she clearly knew she was doing well, it was so sparkling it was almost mesmerizing. It sent little starbursts through the screen and ricocheting around the living rooms of America."
    -Rich Lowry, NRO

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  58. Anonymous8:38 AM

    She likes to throw her supporters off by appearing either without clothes (her first meeting with the senior campaign aides at the hotel only in her towel) or to Ziegler without make-up.

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  59. Enjay in E MT8:52 AM

    I came away with a couple things from the Ziegler article:

    1) An obscure governor drops on the national stage without any real national name recognition to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency - instead of being "open and forthcoming" with access/disclosure/record.... was NOT vetted then hides behind the campaign curtains - brought out only to rally the base. And they STILL don't understand WHY the media picked her apart?

    Running the country is a serious business - you don't pick a name out of a hat.

    2) For all those people who keep saying $P is smart.... if she is unable to "articulate" her thoughts & ideas in an intelligent manner - how do you know? She may have good "gut instincts" - but without excellent communication skills - how can she represent this country globally?

    3) The shine is wearing off the Palin star even to those close to her.

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  60. Anonymous8:59 AM

    I'm reading through the comments on this article, and most call Ziegler out (correctly) as being a whiner.

    I had a good laugh at the following:

    "Palin/Palin 2012 because she is so awesome she can be her own running mate."

    I'm sure this comment was tongue in cheek, as the last line was "I thought we were supposed to question all people who seek power over us."

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  61. Look at their photo. Sarah's smile is a typical posing for the press smile - it doesn't reach her eyes.

    Ziegler is practically giggling.

    What a tool.

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  62. Anonymous9:10 AM

    Ziegler clearly still has a hard-on for Palin. He sounds just like Bailey (I'm reading Blind Allegiance right now). Ziegler continues to believe that The Queen is "really intelligent" while the media has been crucifying her. That the media is the only problem.
    Pathetic Palin-bot.

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  63. Anonymous9:13 AM

    Palin, according to Ziegler, is "clearly brilliant". So much so that she can't figure our what her stance is on anything or how to articulate it. So he tried to give her those talking points, etc. but she either wouldn't take them or she "butchered" them.

    Sorry, sounds like she is the moron I thought she was. Not brilliant. Clearly or otherwise.

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  64. ibwilliamsi10:16 AM

    I really didn't see this as "trashing" Palin. He says she can't win and is too divisive. HE knows that will cost him any chance of future access to her. He regrets having gone back to her after having once been tossed aside, and sees the demand for her signed release as a problematic.

    He also says she's smarter than President Obama and as smart as Reagan - an oxymoron if every I heard one - and that all of her troubles were caused by the press.

    Look, it doesn't take a genius to know that when you run as the first Republican VP nominee there is going to be public scrutiny. She couldn't handle it. End of story. You don't lay that at the feet of the press, you lay that blame at the one who is ill prepared to deal with the inevitable press coverage. Sarah Palin.

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  65. Anonymous10:28 AM

    Does Ziegler believe that by firing this impassioned shot across the bow, he'll be able to attract Sarah's erstwhile attention long enough to finally pierce her hard heart and make her love him and appreciate his courageously conrary-to-what-she-wants-to-hear-but-for-her-own-good opinion about not running for the Republican nomination?

    My guess would be yes. And good luck with that, buddy.

    Seriously if I were Sarah Palin, I'd be very wary of this guy and what he might do for attention next. Because the longer Palin ignores him, the more Ziegler will be compelled to up the stakes of his obsession in order to get her attention, and we all know where that could lead.

    Even more seriously, Ziegler mentions having a wife. Gawd, I feel sorry for her!

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  66. Gasman10:32 AM

    Ziegler is a major league asshole. That even the panty sniffers like Ziegler are no longer starry eyed zealous sycophants is bad news for Palin.

    If a moron like Ziegler thinks the bloom is off this rose, who exactly is going to vote for Palin? Seriously, if even the zombie ass kissers are jumping ship, how exactly does Palin see this playing out with her ending up in the White House?

    Ziegler still basically has his nose jammed up Palin's ass, but at least he admits that her quitting doomed any chance she ever had of moving up to the political big leagues.

    She couldn't handle the stress of being governor of THE SMALLEST state government, so how the hell is she going to handle the EXPONENTIALLY GREATER stress of being POTUS? Even brain dead teabaggers can register the cognitive dissonance of THAT one.

    Oh, Palin will still run, but she is going to be humiliated on a grand scale before she crawls back under her rock.

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  67. Anonymous10:34 AM

    Ziegler’s on the road to enlightenment, just like former Palinbot, Frank Bailey. These people know Sarah and are trying their best to warn other conservatives about her.

    Polls of Alaskans residents show our increasing disenchantment as we get to know the real Sarah more and more. Growing pains. People from other states should take heed.

    It's difficult for Palinbots to come to grips with the fact they they've been wasting their time, energy, and money supporting an idealized brand, not a really flawed person.

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  68. Anonymous10:49 AM

    "Look, it doesn't take a genius to know that when you run as the first Republican VP nominee there is going to be public scrutiny. She couldn't handle it. End of story. You don't lay that at the feet of the press, you lay that blame at the one who is ill prepared to deal with the inevitable press coverage. Sarah Palin."

    From 10:16, who is right on!

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  69. Anonymous11:00 AM

    Ziegler is a moron and has real issues with women. Remember this footage of Ziegler on a dating show? http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/2009
    /02/political-carnival-exclusive-video.html

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  70. Anonymous11:06 AM

    What a booklicker. And amazingly, still one even though the boots have kicked him in the face.

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  71. Anonymous11:36 AM

    I just slogged through this article and wanted to list a few things that jumped out at me:

    1. This Ziegler dude failed to grasp the one thing that is obvious to most of us: that Palin is the cause of her own political downfall due to her sheer stupidity and ignorance.

    2. He's not that bright of a person himself as he had to be kicked to the curb many times before being used by greatest con artist of this century. Although he claims to have 'seen the light' I bet if Palin tossed him a cookie he be back feeding from her hand in no time at all.

    3. He is jilted that he spent all this time and money defending and building an altar to his Queen yet I see no mention anywhere of him being assigned in any official capacity to any of the Paylin front organizations. In other words, he acts like he had to do these things when in fact no one ever asked him.

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  72. Anonymous11:41 AM

    If Sara is so brilliant then how did she mangle so many pieces of history during the VACATION?

    What's the use? Bots think with their johnson's and that's about all. The women who adore her? I don't know, envy? Lust? Walter Mitty complex?

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  73. Gasman11:59 AM

    I think that Ziegler is still hopin' for a ménage à trois with Sarah and Todd.

    He is also still dumb enough to claim that NOTHING is Palin's fault. I find this absolutely hilarious, since that he and his fellow travelers blame President Obama for everything done by anybody else, from the words of Rev. Jeremiah Wright (how can they claim Obama is a Muslim AND hold him responsible for the words of his Christian minister; as a Muslim how can he HAVE a CHRISTIAN minister?) and the financial debacle caused by Bush. However, Palin isn't even responsible for the things which come out of her own liehole.

    Ziegler is still a moron.

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  74. Anonymous12:16 PM

    - This broad leaves bodies everywhere she touches down. Big shocker that you got caught in the swill, Ziggy.

    - Ziggy comes across as a typical spurned zealot who, no matter how much his face is smeared in the dreck, still needs to find the "good" qualities in his former Dom in order to justify the large waste in time, money, and energy. Sure they may be completely incorrect, but it gives them comfort. Thus we get lines telling us that Palin is smart, Todd is a gem, and the kids are only a product of boredom. Go back and read those post-defeat Twits that got deleted, Zig. That is not a smart woman.

    - Ziggy imabraggadoccio belies his constant failure. "Undefeated" indeed.

    -Ziggy bizarre and completely errant view of the "media" is beyond laughable. She's a boob who can't function without notes written on her hand. Nothing else.

    - Go away now, Ziggy.

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  75. Anonymous2:29 PM

    Just shows how immature Palin is. If you read the whole article, it mentions that Ziegler caught Palin making fun of him behind his back. She forwarded one of his emails to her ENTIRE staff, and said "If I have to suffer through his emails, so do all of u!"

    Sarah forgot to delete his address from her team addresses, hence her accidentally forwarding it to him as well.

    She quickly tried to cover for herself, but it was too late.

    Anyway, I'm bringing this up because it shows you Sarah's mindset. How many of you send out mass emails making fun of someone? If you're irritated, you might mention it to one friend. Who feels the need to email it to EVERYONE?

    She's such a thoughtless piece of...

    Don't understand how her fans defend this crap. They should be embarrassed.

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  76. It is clear from Ziegler's article that just like Bailey the effects of the kool-aid will never wear off. It was his non-factual way of looking at everything that lead him to worship SP in the first place.

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  77. Anonymous3:39 PM

    1. Sarah Palin 1.0 was gone before I ever knew her. Her first appearance at the RNC convention where she was called the "attack dog" were purely combative. I never saw anything that looked like a "bridge builder". Ziegler is delusional.

    2. Sarah Palin's hate rallies is where I grew to detest her with the fire of a thousand suns. Watching the ugliness she incited in those racists was stunning and I've never seen anything like that before or since. It was like she gave them permission to show a side that had clearly always been there and now they were proud. After that, there is nothing Sarah Palin could have done to change my opinion.

    3. If Ziegler thinks woman are jealous of Sarah Palin, he is even more deluded. Reading her email missives is just embarrassing. She writes like a third grader. Her family is sprinkled across the country, her children seem to have given up on school and her husband ditched her while on vacation. She seems obsessed with purple robes that look like something that old show with Mrs. Roper would wear. The whole vision her handlers have created of her is a Monet.

    But the hate rallies. There's no coming back from them ever.

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  78. Anonymous4:01 PM

    This was funny:

    "Ziggy comes across as a typical spurned zealot who, no matter how much his face is smeared in the dreck, still needs to find the "good" qualities in his former Dom.."

    As in, Dominatrix?

    Hah! He looks like a submissive. And it's obvious he was obsessed with her. But he's got a sort of gay vibe too, so I don't think he'd mind if Todd was in the room.

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  79. The quote below from the article corroborates Bailey's contention that Sarah regularly had email mishaps, copying people she was slamming in replies:

    "My relationship with Sarah hit another pothole early in 2010 when I advised her via e-mail that her upcoming speech to the Tea Party Convention in Nashville was creating controversy because the event was both expensive and for-profit.

    She forwarded my message to her team, apparently forgetting to delete my address, with the comment, “If I have to suffer thru Ziegler’s e-mails, we ALL have to suffer thru.” Wow, that was a punch in the gut. Less than four minutes later, a panicked follow-up pinged into my Blackberry’s inbox: “John—pls [sic] know that was a joke! . . . you’re [sic] advice is very good, we have announced I will not be financially gaining from the speech, we need to get that word out there.” In other words, she’d acted on the message, but also made sure to take a pot shot at the messenger of bad news."

    Palin is an idiot and as more people like Ziegler,and Bailey (the discarded) come forward with their experiences, it will lead to her demise.

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  80. I would like to ask John Z about his proof that she knows policy? Does he have proof of that? That she actually KNOWS something? It's one thing to say someone is smart (smarter than Reagan? Me thinks not), but where is the proof? Wily is not smart/intelligent. I don't get it.

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  81. Anonymous4:37 PM

    Obviously, this guy is stil enamored of this dingbat. Either that, or he fears reprisals from her and her "camp."

    "Not since Reagan has there been as gifted a politician as her and, because she is an attractive woman with a powerful personal story, you could easily argue she exceeded even the Gipper in overall political potential. I also believe her to be smarter than Reagan."

    That sounds like PURE "PR" speak, (in other words bee ess) like something written on a book jacket about her to sell the book. Who cares whether HE actually believes that or not--that statement is bunk. (If she's so smart, why is it she sticks her foot in her mouth everytime she opens it?) And, just what IS her "powerful personal story" according to this guy? The usual canned family and religious tripe? Is that ever a laugh!

    These people who market her simply cannot keep from comparing her Reagan, and she clearly is not anywhere on a par with even him.

    Maybe he is a tad disenchanted, but he is still out there doing PR for her. This article makes her appear like some darling the press has destroyed and martyred, when in actuality, the press has basically provided her with a free pass to denigrate and "diss" anyone she chooses, rarely ever challenging her on her constant false statements.

    ANYONE who believes that she is (or was) qualified to run this country has to be blind, gullible, naive and in la-la land. While many (non-Alaskans) knew little or nothing about her (especially when she was governor), the first time she stepped out on the national stage,(as McCain's running mate), it was pretty glaring she was mostly a substanceless empty shiny gimmick. Whatever this guy wants to claim about her, so be it. He's a PR guy, and that's WHY she had him working for her in the first place--all about presenting and selling an image!!!!

    Matthews said, she is "an empty vessel." This guy's job was to prove that false. He failed.

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  82. Anonymous6:25 PM

    She absolutely attracts the weirdest people into her life. I read the whole article. He sounds like a scorned suitor/stalker. I've always thought the people Palin should really be afraid of her are her deranged fans.

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  83. Beldar Soto Voce Conehead6:45 PM

    Gryphen, are you aware that the comments link on the Perry post brings up a tmz page with a bare chested Wiener? Disturbing on multiple levels...

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  84. Anonymous7:51 PM

    Poor Ziegler,
    Tossed under the bus, just like the rest of her staff. She's a "one friend at a time" type of gal, once you've done your duty, you're services are no longer needed.

    Poor Ziegler, nothing hurts more than unrequited love, but I doubt he'll spill the beans, he's still got a jones for her.

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