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Now take note, I am about to do something I will likely NEVER do again. And that is to give Michele Bachmann a compliment.
The fact that she took in twenty three foster children is exceedingly admirable in my opinion, since that is one of the most difficult jobs in the world.
My only caveat to this is if she did such a thing to indoctrinate these children into her religious belief, then I take it all back. I have seen PLENTY of Evangelical types take foster children into their homes and then swiftly impose their own stringent moral demands on them until the kids either run away, and end up back in the system, or buckle under and learn to suppress their individuality in exchange for a warm place to sleep and clothes on their backs.
Now I have no evidence that Bachmann was this kind of foster parent, but from what I know of her, I would not be terribly surprised. (By the way, I am in NO way suggesting that all religious people who become foster parents force their beliefs on the children they bring into their homes. In fact the majority of them take great pains to respect the religious customs that the children they take in already observe. I am speaking of a very small, but very aggressive, group of foster parents who feel that they are called by God to bring new souls to Jesus, and have found foster care a very useful tool for achieving that end.)
But leaving the possibility that there is something admirable about Michele Bachmann aside, I have to say that EVERYTHING else about her should scare the hell out of anybody who thinks she might have a real shot of making it to the White House.
Which she doesn't by the way.
Bachmann does resemble Palin in some ways.
ReplyDeleteHer degree is shady....she's changed that story a couple of times.
The 23 pregnant and disabled foster girls in 3 years does not sound like good parenting to me. It sounds like good income from the state. Plus the feds fund the family farm. Not a bad deal.
Add to that, her knowledge of history - there is none.
She's a good rep for the T-party, but the republicans don't want her as the nominee. I absolutely don't want her as president.
Michele Bachmann is psychotic (I'm not necessarily using that in the clinical sense). Her husband is a little too into the "pray away the gay" technique of ministering. I would like to believe the two of them took in foster children purely out of the goodness of their hearts and without ulterior motives, but I'm not 100% convinced.
ReplyDeleteHi Gryphen,
ReplyDeleteThis is from the Minneapolis City Pages- a local publication and was written in 2006 when Bachmann was running for Congress. Not so flattering: www.citypages.com/2006-10-04/news/the-chosen-one/
She's another religious dominionist
Bachmann will not talk as she did at the debate for long. She won't be able to 'cage' her 'stupid' forever!!
ReplyDeleteShe was totally prepped for the debate -- but the day in day out grind -- all the crazy will come pouring out of her mouth. We know her stunned and stupid lying comments that are her history for all to see and hear will be used against her in ads etc. and she will fall off the cliff defending it all!!
I have heard those foster kids were teen girls, some pregnant and it was suggested they were used as free babysitters for the other kids. I have not researched this myself yet, but she is a nutter.
ReplyDeleteAnd her husband prays away teh gay for a living and he is a closet case himself...google Marcus Bachmann.
I certainly hope she doesn't have a chance of getting either the Presidential or Vice-Presidential slot.
ReplyDeleteIn fact, I'd be thrilled if she lost her next election and got to stay home and contemplate her navel.
Michele is her own brand of scary crazy. Sarah has dibs on her crazy. That these two women have risen to the top ranks of the GOP says so much about how the GOP has pandered to the right and how seriously the GOP has declined.
As one of Bachmann's constituents (sigh....), I can only say that there seem to be a number of similarities between Bachmann & Palin. (It's a very gerry-mandered district, and the folks in my area are largely not stoopid or crazy!)
ReplyDeleteThe big difference, from what I can tell, is that Palin seems to be much more narcissistic and self-driven, whereas Michele is a true believer. And I don't necessarily mean that in a good way. =)
The other difference is that Michele has gotten better at keeping her cuh-razy hidden. But if she stays on this presidential path for any amount of time, she won't be able to keep a lid on it.
For those who are interested in learning more, there's a great local blog that delves into the truth about Bachmann...
http://www.dumpbachmann.com/
As for the question about foster children. Without evidence of her motivation and actions, I'm reserving judgment.
However, it's worth pointing out that the central issue of Bachmann's state senate career has been full-on anti-gay. She has actively and loudly spearheaded efforts to limit civil rights for gays. And her husband, Marcus, works as some sort of mental health counselor, reportedly focusing on helping people get "cured" of their gayness.
As I said, she's gotten better at acting like she mostly cares about deficits and government overreach, but her past priorities and verbal "slips" demonstrate another agenda completely.
I don't admire Michelle Bachmann. I think the money the state gives to foster families for taking children into their homes was one motivator, but I also feel her need to indoctrinate and, in effect proselytize, to as large an "audience" as she and her husband can reach, is her main goal.....and it scares the crap out of me.
ReplyDeleteI've heard a lot of people wish that either SP or MB would win the nomination and run against President Obama in 2012. They say it would be funny as hell. IMHO, this would be a nightmare! Yes, it would be fun to see them try to debate our extremely intelligent President but the thought that one of these women would go down in history as the FIRST woman to win a major party nomination gives me the chills. I'm sorry, but neither of these women deserves the historical significance of being first. Hilary Clinton - absolutely! Kay Bailey Hutchinson, Christine Whitman? You betcha! Michelle Obama? I would be first in line to cast that vote.
ReplyDeleteIf you check Wikileaks for a list of female presidential candidates you would find a long list of independent candidates - my favorite is Gracie Allen of the Surprise Party - but no major party has "manned up" and nominated a woman for the top job, even though I think it's way past time to put a woman in charge. Saying that though, if our only choices are these two bimbos, I vote to wait until 2016 and see what Hilary decides to do.
Did she actually foster them and nurture them or use them as babysitters etc for the younger fosters, as workers, etc? It seems exploitive to me on some level as well as financially lucrative for her.
ReplyDeleteNO NO NO, Gryph!
ReplyDeleteThere is NOTHING admirable about Michelle Bachmann.
We can't prove her religious indoctrination of these kids BUT we DO know that she accepted FEDERAL FUNDS to take in these kids. She is a millionaire. Her family is rich.
Oh yeah. And they take FEDERAL FARM SUBSIDIES to NOT GROW food on their farm...to the tune of HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS!
But this is another MOUTH talking about the EVILS of BIG GOVT!
Please, please, PLEASE- DO NOT give in to their (truncated) talking points.
When we begin to believe them, all is lost.
Given the release of Shailey's bombshell I suggest two important books: "Family of Secrets" by Russ Baker and "American Taliban" by Markos Moulitsas.
ReplyDeleteIt's high time to blow the lid off an apparent attempt to hijack our country. What should we call our movement? Gryphen, you might want to start the discussion.
Many of the foster kids were placed with her for a short period of time - it is very misleading to suggest that she had meaningful foster relationships with most of them. She leaves that detail out when she suggests that she was a foster parent in the conventional sense for all these kids.
ReplyDeleteI don't call them, "23 Foster Children."
ReplyDeleteBecause for one, they weren't "children" but ALL girls, no boys included as far as how Bachmann tells it.
Pregnant teen girls. Why not foster infants or really needy toddlers? Why only pregnant girls?
No, I refer to them as "The Mysterious 23" for the simple point that we only KEEP hearing about these mysterious 23 from Bachmann only.
Not a one of the 23 have come forward to either ID themselves as being 1 of the 23.
Nor has any of the mysterious 23 come forward in support of Bachmann.
But what's really odd is that none of them have come out against Bachmann.
And in this day & age with the Internet, surely something would come out with regards to either.
Just WHO are these Mysterious 23?
WHERE are any of these Mysterious 23?
--GypsyGirl
Lived in her district. Never heard any trouble regarding her foster children, unlike members of the Palin family. In fact, many speak fondly of her. That being said, most foster children will go with the foster family to church. Not certain what the person is saying about the 23 pregnant and disabled foster girls. We were aware of boys. Is there evidence of this?
ReplyDeleteDespite this, she scares the hell out of me. She is smarter, will take council, was a tax attorney, won't self-destruct due to all the family skeletons, is attractive, and doesn't sound like an idiot all the time. She has eclipsed Palin as the person who most scares me in politics. She is just as vicious and conniving as Palin.
If you want a funny story about Bachmann, google Bachmann hides in bushes.
The only entertainment I get out of Bachman is seeing how much the Baggers are drooling over her. That article in The Daily Beast yesterday outlining how she came to be what she is made me wonder how anyone could stand her but I'm no Bagger. Knowing Granny Lou wants to be Queen of the Baggers and seeing Bachman toss her off the platform like trash is entertaining though.
ReplyDeleteThe foster kids weren't kids she raised, they were kids who were put into her home temporarily and then moved on. She was well compensated for this and I think it is nearly comparable to the Trig situation in that it gives her cred with a certain part of the population.
ReplyDeleteI do not like Michelle Bachmann, BUT when compared to Sarah Palin she manages to look not only reasonable, but almost likable. oy vey!
ReplyDeleteI would love to hear from some of these 23 foster children today about what their home lives were like with nutty Mickey B.
ReplyDeletePerhaps some enterprising journo will track a few of them down as the election season progresses.
Look for Marcus on youtube and tell me he's strait. He supposedly counsels in MN although he has no license although the folks working for him are licensed. His PhD from an online school that costs mega bucks.
ReplyDeleteIn their official campaign photo from 2010, she sits on his lap. Methinks she protests too much.
She did not do it for free.
ReplyDeleteShe is just as annoying and crazy as palin and trump and newt.
ReplyDeleteI don't know about Bachmann's kids, but I can assure you the religious right does take indoctrinating at a very young age very seriously. They deliberately target the young and the needy. That's why they're always doing mission work because they know it's easier to convert people when they are in desperate circumstances. And yes they do go after foster children as they are young, and impressionable. They have all sorts of literature in some churches on how to do this.
ReplyDeleteRepeating myself from another post, at the debate Bachmann said she gave birth to five children. I wondered if she was distinguishing her biological kids from her foster kids, or if she was distinguishing herself from Sarah Palin and firing a warning shot.
ReplyDeleteAnother difference b/t Bachmann and Palin is that Bachmann has worked a day in her life. Her law degree is questionable (Oral Roberts) but her masters in tax law is from a real school, and then she practiced it.
I have fostered 28, and adopted 8 of those fosters. Now, can she shut up about it? We get it. You've got mommy creds.
ReplyDeleteRe Marcus.
ReplyDelete1. There was a famous story about when she first won her House seat, that he picked out her outfit for the victory party.
2. This post includes a radio interview with Marcus. Interesting to listen to him talk about his Christian(ist) counseling practive. Interesting just to listen to him.
http://www.dumpbachmann.com/2011/06/study-homophobic-men-most-aroused-by.html
I think it's really weird and possibly sick that she took in 23 children...how could two parents POSSIBLY give each child what they need? Couldn't do it for a family of 8 very well (as kids from big families if they felt neglected by their parents)....the sheer numbers here speak of being driven by other motives...maybe I'm wrong but this seems very wrong to me.
ReplyDeleteShe's a dominionist. She is bizarre ( maybe not quite as bizarre outwardly as Sarah, but worse underneath,
ReplyDeleteI really have to question the number of foster kiddos in and out of her care--unless they were short term madically fragile foster kiddos( which I doubt Michelle qualifies as ---I was and know how strict Minnesota is on the qualificattions) that just seems like a huge number of NOT medically fragile foster kiddos. She may have just done "emergency placements" which are a few nights. I would really l;ike someone to investigate her claims on the number.
As for her husband, he is a self--loathing closeted gay manthat runs a clinic that accepts federal $$$ to "get the gay out" of clients. While he , himself roams gay bars on the weekend.
I do think that Bachmann IS MORE dangerous than Sarah, because she has some intelligence, but she is nothing but a religious zealot.
I am disappointed that you chose to place this article on your blog--5 min of google searches would have shown you who Bachmann really is.
23 foster kids in 3 years or so -- that includes kids pulled out of a home in an emergency removal and placed for a day of two in order that they can be placed in a longer term setting after a Court hearing.
ReplyDeleteIt would therefore allow her to put out a BS message to say 23 -- when truefully, probably the majority of the 23 were with the family under a week.
Yes it good she opened her home but NO it's not good in 'using' them in a somewhat similar way as Palin. They're the 'invisible' Props as she's not being true in the message she's putting out.
Michelle loses me on her gay conversion theory. I don't disrespect her for having convictions but that notion is so outdated it's frightening to think people like that are in positions of power.
ReplyDeleteI think Sarah and Michelle have more in common. They both live for their families. I still find it bizarre Michelle was allowed to take in 23 foster kids. My roommate's foster mom started taking foster kids in when she was 26 and now is 52. I believe there were 5 total - living in a dirty cabin in the middle of no where. She's a good mother to them and continues the relationships but it puts Michelle into perspective.
Also remember - her bio son went to volunteer/work with AmeriCorps - something she was totally against being it was in her eyes a 'Dem' organization -- it burned her ass when he joined.
ReplyDeleteWhy didn't he join one of her 'religious'/'church' groups???
Things that make you go Hmmmmm!!!!
But not too smart! She's got that GOP ditsy thing down.
ReplyDeleteAs someone else mentioned go to:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.dumpbachmann.com/
I especially liked the videos with Marcus, her pray away the gay husband, who could out-gay Truman Capote.
I agree with a lot of others here. 23 foster children? she wasn't home to take care of them. What low paid person was in charge? I think this is one of the biggest rackets going. People get paid big for kids nowadays. They get paid to take them in, then get all kinds of entitlements, medical and all. If they were pregnant what kind of entitlement did they get? who was in charge of them. No single mother, can take care of 23 children, without help of somekind, She was too busy so she didn't. I'd like to know how much she took in from the state and government while she took in these foster children. I heard of someone around here, who adopted from a different country, got help the adoption costs, and now still pull in 2,400 a month for 2 children. Mutiply this by thousands. We just don't realize how children are a check for lots of people in this country. If your a hard working middle class person with your own fammily you are penilized. You make too much money and shouldn't have benefits.
ReplyDeleteThe new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll has some bad news for Sarah Palin. Thanks to Paul Revere, her orchestrated publicity tour over Memorial Day weekend managed to lower her approval rating to 24%.
ReplyDeleteSarah Palin overall favorable rating is 24%. Her unfavorable rating is 54%. When the NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll was last conducted in April, 9% of those surveyed had a very positive view of Palin. After Paul Revere that number is 7%. Her publicity blitz did cause people that have a very unfavorable view of her to drop from 41% to 38%, but this was offset by an increase in those who had a somewhat unfavorable view of her from 12% to 16%.
In a January 2011 CNN poll, Sarah Palin had a 38% approval rating. By March, a Bloomberg poll had her sinking to 28%. In an April Washington Post poll, Palin’s approval with tea partiers fell to 60%, and her disapproval rating overall shot up to 55%. Later that same month, the NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll measured her approval rating at 25%.
To summarize, Sarah Palin’s approval rating when we began 2011 was 38%. It is now 24%. If the point of the bus tour was to make Palin more popular, then it was a gigantic fail on wheels. She may have been able to get something positive out of the bus tour until she was asked that gotcha question what did you do today? As soon as Palin answered with her revised history of Paul Revere’s ride, any shot at positive publicity was down the drain.
http://www.politicususa.com/
en/sarah-palin-revere-revenge
Shouldn't the title have been -
ReplyDeleteMichele Bachmann: the living embodiment of everything Sarah Palin pretends to be..?
How many of the foster kids keep in touch? How much time could she have spent with them individually? Did the kids ASK to be removed from her home? Lots of questions about so many in a short time. How much money did she make doing this?
ReplyDeleteThe fact that she took in twenty three foster children is exceedingly admirable in my opinion, since that is one of the most difficult jobs in the world.
ReplyDeleteNever mind just the religious motivations she may have had in taking in these kids, her husband "counsels" people to not be gay - I'm sure they stifle any indication of alternative lifestyles also too.
And though their motivation were probably not financial (they are well off and weren't milking a system for $$$) but not all Foster Parents are hero's either.
Why did they do this? I'm sorry I'm so cynical that their motivations are suspect.
At least it brings awareness to Foster Care, more people including myself should do it.
Other than that, just because Michele is trying to come off a measured and sane - she's just as dangerous to our country's secular status and our civil liberties as Sarah Palin. It'll be interesting to watch these two whack-job fundies vie for the same base.
Michele Bachmann's First Dude
ReplyDeleteMichele Bachmann’s growing 2012 buzz won’t just put her positions under a microscope—her husband, Marcus, a Christian counselor, believes in a “homosexual agenda” and has referred to gays as “barbarians.”
“Barbarians need to be educated, they need to be disciplined, and just because someone feels it or thinks it, doesn’t mean we need to go down that road,” he said while discussing homosexuality during the radio interview. “We have a responsibility as parents and authority figures not to encourage such thoughts and feelings.”
Such views are becoming rare in the U.S.; a recent Gallup poll found that for the first time ever, a majority of Americans support same-sex marriage.
With her stellar performance in the GOP presidential debate on June 13, Michele Bachmann’s reputation is quickly transforming from oddball outsider to formidable campaigner. That will certainly bring a new focus on her family, including her husband and his past statements
http://www.thedailybeast.com
/articles/2011/06/16/michele-bachmann-s-first-dude-husband-marcus-bachmann.html
I hope any of em, all of em Foster Kids speak up about their experience under a Bachmann roof.
ReplyDeleteOK, a little more Michele fun.
ReplyDeleteFrom the Twin Cities' alt weekly, Bachmann's 10 biggest "Oh no she didn't" moments. Heh.
As I said earlier, there is NO WAY she'll be able to keep a lid on her innate crazy.
http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2009/12/michele_bachmanns_worst_moments.php
Bachmann want's us to prove our faith and patriotism just as much as Sarah Palin.
ReplyDeleteGoodbye Bill of Rights under any of these GOP regimes.
Where is Palin?
ReplyDeleteThe thought that anyone, anywhere, would consider this nutcase presidential material is scary. No matter how prepped she might be, the fact remains that she is a wacko.
ReplyDeleteThe Chosen One
ReplyDeleteMichele Bachmann's recipe for success: Christian piety and not-so-Christian opportunism
http://www.citypages.com/
content/printVersion/17190/
Bachmann's Unrivaled Extremism
ReplyDelete...In the statehouse, Bachmann made opposition to gay marriage her signature issue. Both she and her husband, by all accounts her most trusted political adviser, believe that homosexuality can be cured. Speaking to a Christian radio station about gay teenagers last year, Marcus, who treats gay people in his counseling practice, said, "Barbarians need to be educated. They need to be disciplined, and just because someone feels this or thinks this, doesn't mean that we're supposed to go down that road."
In 2004, Bachmann gave a speech warning that gay marriage would lead to schoolchildren being indoctrinated into homosexuality. She wanted everyone to know, though, that she doesn't hate gay people. "Any of you who have members of your family in the lifestyle, we have a member of our family that is," she said. "This is not funny. It's a very sad life. It's part of Satan, I think, to say that this is gay."
http://www.thedailybeast.com/
articles/2011/06/14/michele-bachmanns-unrivaled-extremism
-gay-rights-to-religion.html
read that her eldest son is gay and she disowned him because of it.
ReplyDeleteShe also ran a church school, but would not let her 'foster' girls attend. Only paying clients allowed.
I also read that some boys were taken in to work the farm, but that has been denied by the Bachmanns.
Gryphen,
ReplyDeleteDid you forget about Bachmann telling US citizens to be "armed and dangerous" for the 2010 elections?
Did you forget that she went on a rampage about the census and that it would be used to put white people in "fema camps"?
as a tax attorney for the IRS, Michele Bachmann only ever had ONE case.
ReplyDeleteShe sued a Native American who worked for a non-profit and made less than $10K per year and was sued for $3K.
The institution from which she earned her law degree no longer exists. Also, the college of William and Mary does not offer LLM degrees unless you are a foreigner. She no longer lists her law degree or her "stay" in Williamsburg on her official government website, so something was up. Sounds like hyperbole.
23 foster children, and 5 of her own. Answer me this - how is a "working" mother able to give each of her 28 children the individual attention they deserve? And foster children usually come with some extra care needs.
ReplyDeleteThat's a lot of foster child care credit money. Bachmann has been accused of using her political campaign donations to live of off, as well as misuse of other types of benefits, what's to not say she's been milking the foster system too?
I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but if it smells like a fish, it just might be a fish.
Or maybe I'm being extra cynical this a.m. as I've had to get up 2 hours earlier than usual.
methinks she is a big, fat liar:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/01/25/938752/-Michele-BachmannLying-about-Her-Law-Degree
also her recent statements about 75% tax rate indicate she has a very poor understanding of tax law. The real number is closer to 25%. She fails the pinnochio test.
Gryphen, check this out--
ReplyDeletehttp://www.crivellawest.net/palin2011/pdf/13493.pdf
Why, pray tell, would Sarah have needed to CHANGE the weight/length info for Trig on the birth announcement?
And who has so many 'drafts' of a birth announcement anyway?!
I think the "Trig's weight should be CHANGED to 6.3 lbs" part is very, VERY interesting.
Wow---so a congresswoman who takes in foster children--how can you beat that-----having and caring for a disabled child.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if Bachmann was suppose to be the Female Republican until the cruise in 2007. After which Sarah went to Kwiat to visit the troops, her son signed up and she had a child with DS.
Bachman encouraged everyone in her district to commit an illegal act, i.e., not cooperate with the census. That alone should disqualify her from holding any public office. And just another thought -- I wonder how her five biological children felt about the time and attention given to the foster children.
ReplyDeleteShelly is just the 2011 model of Anita Bryant. She's easy on the eyes, can string a couple of coherent sentences together and is a super mother (according to her) but she is off the rails crazy.
ReplyDeleteAs a lifelong republican, I can say without a doubt that this woman would have been shunned in the party years ago just as Palin would have been. Today, the only thing one needs to become a party hope is to be pretty and nuts. That's because most republican men are not thinking with their big head.
Someday I hope that these fools will understand that one can not "pray away the gay" anymore than one might pray away the straight. Hateful, hateful souls!
ReplyDeleteAgain, I ask the anti-gay goofs -- What ever happened to "live and let live"?
I took the advice of a commenter and looked Marcus up on youtube. Um, yeah, I think he's gay. Wouldn't matter except that's his and Michelle's whole anti-gay platform. This one is sort of weird and funny:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADMgWXBzPwQ
I've read many gossip blinds about the gay spouse of a presidential wannabe and I think I've found the answer.
Don't know where Palin is...maybe Arizona???
ReplyDeleteIsn't Arizona known for spas, plastic surgery, and expensive rehab centers?
Just sayin'....
The true Michelle Bachmann story in comicbook form:
ReplyDeletehttp://biasedliberalmedia.com/wordpress/
I have them and they're simultaneously hilarious and terrifying!
Michele Bachmann Moves Out Of Sarah Palin's Shadow
ReplyDeletehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/15/michele-bachmann-
sarah-palin_n_877639.html
6:38 Palin is reading up on Civil War history before she restarts the bus tour. She failed American Revolutionary history. Can't wait for her to explain Sherman's March to the Pacific Ocean.
ReplyDeletelet no one forget her position on abortion. she and her minions made life hell for people who worked at planned parenthood or who were clients there for any reason, not just abortion which was a minor part of the medical services provided. i'm sure if she progresses those old stories will come back front an center. she's just as crazy as palin, make no mistake about that.
ReplyDeleteWell Gryph just know for each of those foster kids, Michelle received Government Benefits. It's a requirement. She's a hypocrite because she opposes Government benefits for others. She also receives Farm subsidies for her farm.
ReplyDeleteBachmann is every bit as scary as Sarah, but in a different way. She would be every bit as dangerous to the country if she were to become President.
ReplyDeleteSarah isn't going to stand for Bachmann attempting to take something the she feels is hers, so expect Sarah to do something soon to get some headlines
While I disagree with her politics, I do admire Bachmann for her genuine accomplishments as a mother, foster mother, wife, student, and legislator. I also respect that she is genuine in her faith. I would never call her a fraud. Michelle Bachmann is the real deal..
ReplyDeleteSarah Palin only pretends. Simply everything about her is made up or highly exaggerated. It's as if she was too lazy to actually accomplish anything once she figured out how easy it was to mesmerize fools with her looks and lies. She uses Motherhood and Apple Pie to fool the trusting. She is a sick woman with an enabling family.
Michele Bachmann is a batshit crazy loon. How the hell anybody can be as fucking stupid as she is and still manage to get a law degree is beyond me.
ReplyDeleteShe is vain, stupid, arrogant, stupid, deluded, and STUPID.
REMIND you of anyone?
I think at some point Palin will bare her claws and fangs and go after Bachmann. The campaign stage ain't big enough for TWO batshit crazy loons, so one of 'em has got to go. They both are posturing to be the pinup girl for the brainless teabagger fundagelical set. Sooner or later, one of them must be tossed aside. Who will remain standing?
Of course, Palin has the advantage of being part of a tribe of amoral, lying, and plain mean assholes who would say, do, eat, or kiss anyone or anything for personal or monetary gain. Who knows what kind of smack Pimp Daddy Toad alone could bring to the match? He might bring a posse of 'hoes who would cut Bachmann. Add that to the snotty progeny of the Palins AND the flying monkeys and I'd have to give the edge to Palin.
You better watch your back, Bachmann.
A brainless bimbo death cage match! What fun!
Why, pray tell, would Sarah have needed to CHANGE the weight/length info for Trig on the birth announcement?
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happens - my DD's baby weighed less than her reported birth weight and the record was changed at the last minute. The length stayed the same.
Emails underscore Parnell's loyalty to Palin
ReplyDeletehttp://community.adn.com/node/157342
Has Michele Bachmann Eclipsed Sarah Palin?
ReplyDeleteAnd when it comes to lame-stream media attention, Bachmann has a habit of absorbing the spotlight when Palin fades. When Palin laid low after what many called her narcissistic response to the tragic shooting at Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Gifford’s “Congress on Your Corner” event in January, Bachmann entered center stage with her Tea Party response to President Obama’s State of the Union speech. After the media din subsided from Palin’s to-campaign-or-not-to-campaign New England bus tour, Bachmann came on strong and articulate in Monday's GOP debate and had the media cycle saying, Sarah who? [See a slide show of GOP 2012 contenders.]
What do you think? Has Michele Bachmann eclipsed Sarah Palin?
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/
articles/2011/06/15/has-michele-bachmann-eclipsed-sarah-palin?s_cid=rss:has-michele-bachmann-eclipsed-sarah-palin
Michele Bachmann Isn’t Stupid, She’s Dangerous
ReplyDeleteIf you’re wondering why Michele Bachmann doesn’t seem to get history, economics, science or facts, it’s not because she’s stupid or gaffe prone. These are not mistakes; these are Bachmann’s real beliefs.
Goldberg explains, “She’s a perfect product of the religious right…” In detailing Bachmann’s biblical world view that stemmed from Francis Schaeffer, “All reality is determined by theological starting point, and so basically very single aspect of public life, science, history, economics, everything is determined by your religious beliefs and only those with the correct religious beliefs can correctly perceive any sort of reality, and it’s a way in which you can dismiss huge swaths of history, evolution, you can basically say that anything that doesn’t fit with your ideology is the product of mistaken theological premise.”
As author Frank Schaeffer (son of Francis Schaeffer) explains, “Michele Bachmann says certain things that sound crazy to the general public. But to anybody raised in the environment of the evangelical right wing, what she says makes perfect sense.”
http://www.politicususa.com
/en/michele-bachmann-dangerous
Found this searching Palin emails. The email is dated March 2008. What do you think Karen means by "And congratulations on your newest arrival"?
ReplyDelete-----Original Message-----
From: "Rehfeld, Karen J (GOV)" < karen . rehfeld@alaska.gov>
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:25:24
To:gov.sarah@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Your child!
Wow governor - thanks for this email! I was sitting with the mikes and Russ when we got
the news they had won this game. My husband is down there and I am so glad he got to go.
Anyway they will have their work cut out for them in the championship game tomorrow.
And congratulations on your newest arrival! I don't know how you manage but I tell
people you have more energy than anyone I know!
Thanks for this. It means a lot! KJR
The last election my daughter stood in line for almost 2 hours with her 2small children at dinner time to vote AGAINST Michelle Bachmann, her only reason for going to vote. Unfortunately, it didn't do any good.
ReplyDeleteI agree with other Minnesota commenters that Bachmann is a certified nutcase and that she should not be running for President or any other public office for that matter. Let her go back to being a "tax attorney" and "running her business"
I think they need to include a mandatory psych evaluation as a requirement to run for office. The results should be public information.
5:11, thanks for that link. That was a fabulous article and I highly recommend it.
ReplyDeleteI still contend that Bachmann is the real deal in that she is more substantive than Palin--and more genuine in her faith--but now I recognize how insane and unfit for higher office she is. She and Palin do share a ferocious determination and a disdain for the truth when a lie will serve better.
I have no problem exploring her constituents' grievances with regard to public education, but it seems to me that there is no negotiation--they simply want to twist the Three Rs into a biblical lesson.
I'm also shocked that the churches backing her have not lost their tax exempt status. They should.
Right wing religious fundamentalists simply do not understand the Constitution, nor this Country. They are just as bad as the Muslims who want to impose Sharia Law.
It also seems to me that it's been some time since Bachmann has been a practicing federal tax attorney. If ever. What she was, is an IRS agent with a 3rd rate law degree. Otherwise she'd have been snapped up by a big firm.
Gryph: Read Michelle Goldberg's piece in the Daily Beast and just maybe, only maybe, you'll re-visit your thoughts about complimenting BTO for ANYTHING - EVER...
ReplyDeleteMs. Bachmann would do well by herself, her family and probably the rest of humanity to have herself committed to a remedial, high-concentration medical drug treatment facility where she could spend the rest of her days...
Here's a link:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/06/14/michele-bachmanns-unrivaled-extremism-gay-rights-to-religion.html
I have always admired the fact that she fostered so many children since I first learned of it. That, of course, being the ONLY thing I have admired about her. But 23 special needs children (pregnant teens, disabled) in three years? This sounds more like another farm than a nurturing environment to help bridge these children's futures.
ReplyDeleteBut I guess a farm is better than a brothel.
Anon @ 8:12,
ReplyDeleteAu contraire, mon frere, Bachmann is both stupid AND dangerous.
That she buys into the Christian Domionist bullshit and believes it whole heartedly not only doesn't mean that she isn't fucking stupid, it is confirmation that she IS fucking stupid.
To buy into that asinine tripe you have to exceedingly arrogant and you must be highly credulous and willing to accept the febrile delusions of those who like nothing more than to make up their own additions and amendments to 1st century superstitions.
I also don't admire her foster parenting. That many kids in that short a time? That is not for their benefit, it's for the cash from the state. I've also heard her bitch about how the state won't let her home school the foster kids. Thank God for that. THAT is the one thing they still have going for them.
Bachmann is most definitely stupid AND dangerous. Co-mingling arrogance and ignorance in fairly equal proportions is never a good thing.
Fortunately, she is SO fucking stupid that she won't get the GOP nomination. Her own party will see to that.
Marcus Bachmann= Cam from Modern Family
ReplyDeletePray the Gay away indeed. Didn't really work that well for Dr. Marcus .
Bachmann will implode like she always does..and Kristin Wiig has down cold on SNL. Good times if Bachmann's still in the race come fall
O/T Looks like Santorum may have some "choice" baggage. I will not fault him, nor his family for making an informed personal choice - but I will fault him for his / their hypocracy to deny others from having the same option when a wife/mother/woman risks death for a pregnancy.
ReplyDeleteHow many women have ectopic pregnancies? With their moral laws, those women will die, as well as the fetus / zygot.
http://early-onset-of-night.tumblr.com/post/6502308112/our-abortion-was-different-when-the-anti-choice
My first thought on hearing that Bachmann had foster kids was, "where ARE these kids? Why have none come forward to praise her during her campaigns?"
ReplyDeleteWhen I learned that she'd had 23 in 3 years and that most were pregnant, that made more sense.
Those kids come in on an emergency basis, often late at night, usually possessing only the clothes on their back. The social worker picks them back up in the morning, or in a day or two.
My sister kept tons of teenage style clothes in varying sizes for emergency placements like that.
It's doubtful that Bachmann's emergency placements even learned, or remembered her full name, let alone knew her well enough to praise or denigrate her.
They're often too shell shocked from being suddenly thrown out or removed from an abusive home to remember some woman they knew for a day.
Nice work, Bachmann, but ya don't get to take credit for FOSTERING kids to whom you simply gave brief shelter.
Besides, with Bachmann's religious nuttery, in her eyes, those unwed mothers were SINNERS.
Glad their stay in Saint Bachmann's house was brief.
VHTG
23 foster kids makes sense, when you realize foster parents get PAID BY THE STATE to house them....kinda like the US Govt checks the Bachmanns got for bein,' you know, farmers or whatever.
ReplyDeleteBoy I'll say one thing for Palin at least her husband isn't running around stating that he has changed gays to straights. The Bachmann's are sick, sick, people.
ReplyDeleteSeveral DumpBachmann links posted already. Here is another one. Michele had a "BathroomGate". The sheriff's report that Bachmann filed used to be online, maybe someone has a good link for it.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.dumpbachmann.com/search/label/bathroomgate
Also Bachmann's paraniod statement on Americorp:
"Bachmann said that Americorps is really “re-education camps for young people – and get trained in a philosophy that the government puts forward.” She continued, “It is a dream come true for people who want to transform our country from a free-market economy to a centralized government planned economy." The crazy goes on and on.
http://www.politicususa.com/en/Bachmann-Americorps-Reeducation-Camps
Foster kids?
ReplyDeleteNot to mention, hubby does "Christian" counseling.
Client funnel?
Don't forget, her husband is a "christian counselor" who heads his own clinic. For a number of reasons, including his seemingly undue focus on the "homosexual agenda," I believe he will be a liability for his wife as a candidate.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDelete"Boy I'll say one thing for Palin at least her husband isn't running around stating that he has changed gays to straights."
Why would he? Todd has no problem with gayness. ;-)
Off topic
ReplyDeletehttp://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/06/sheila-jackson-lee-asks-about-christian-militants-during-anti-muslim-hearing/
"When Rep. Peter King (R-NY) called a hearing on Muslim radicalism, he probably didn’t expect Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) to turn the spotlight on “Christian militants.”
But that’s exactly what she did Wednesday.
Jackson Lee noted that one witness who wrote a letter to the committee about the dangers of radical Islam in prisons had been arrested for bombing an abortion clinic. "
Well, do you know how we know she took in 23 foster children? Because she never lets us forget it. She's constantly bringing it up. And I never trust people who incessantly talk about what good deeds they do. Truly good people rarely trumpet their own horn.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know if these "foster children" were from the State or where they part of one of those Christian organizations that gets hold of pregnant girls and "helps" them so they can brag that they prevented the girl from aborting. Many areas have groups like that and the girls either stay with a family until they deliver, or go to another facility. In the meantime, they get lots of prayer and counseling about the evil of their ways.
ReplyDeleteMy husband and I were foster parents for quite a few years..had a lot of kids..and like someone mentioned..they would often arrive in the middle of the night with nothing. I feel sure that most of them have no memory of our names or where we live. We had some great experiences...loved when I got a little newborns to love and cuddle and then knew they were going to a couple who had been waiting forever for a baby. Hated when they brought abused, filthy kids, and after a couple of weeks, put them right back into the same situation. We were licensed for birth through 6 year olds..most of the kids we got were much older..many teens in fact.
But..I want to tell you...you do NOT make money being foster parents. The pay is not that much and after you buy them clothing, food, etc. there really is not much left over. We quit because we got burned out.
@anon 8:23. Since the email is soon after Palin announced she was 7 mos. pregnant, I think "arrival" just refers to the baby to arrive in two months.
ReplyDeleteGreat Post. I'd swap out Rosie O'Donnel for Ellen Degeneres only because I think that would make Bachman's head spin as she hurls pea soup.
ReplyDeleteI'd like to give her the benefit of the doubt on the foster kids, but something tells me she was in it for reasons other than actually caring for these kids. There's money to be made, free labor for the home and farm, and boosts her creds with the Conservative Christian Radicalized variety voters.
She makes my skin crawl almost as much as Sarah.
This woman is so cray-cray it's scary.
ReplyDeleteMichele Bachmann is to progressivism what Sharia law is to progressivism - yep, my state (Oklahoma) is gonna love her LOL.