Saturday, July 23, 2011

Right Wing extremist murders at least 80 people in Norway.

Anders Behring Breivik, the face of terror
Courtesy of the New York Times:

Norway suffered a pair of devastating attacks on Friday when powerful explosions shook the government center here, killing seven people, and shortly after a gunman stalked youths at an island summer camp for young members of the governing Labor Party, killing at least 80.

The explosions in Oslo, from one or more bombs, turned the tidy Scandinavian capital into a scene reminiscent of terrorist attacks in Baghdad or Oklahoma City, panicking people and blowing out windows of several government buildings, including one housing the office of the Norwegian prime minister, Jens Stoltenberg, who was unharmed.

The state television broadcaster, citing the police, said seven people had been killed and at least 15 wounded in the explosions, which they said appeared to be an act of domestic terrorism.

Even as the police locked down a large area of the city after the blasts, a man dressed as a police officer entered the youth camp on the island of Utoya, about 19 miles northwest of Oslo, a Norwegian security official said, and opened fire. “He said it was a routine check in connection with the terror attack in Oslo,” one witness told VG Nett, the Web site of a national newspaper.

Of the at least 80 people killed on the island, some were as young as 16, the police said on national television early Saturday.

Terrified youths jumped into the water to escape. “Kids have started to swim in a panic, and Utoya is far from the mainland,” said Bjorn Jarle Roberg-Larsen, a Labor Party member who spoke by phone with teenagers on the island, which has no bridge to the mainland. “Others are hiding. Those I spoke with don’t want to talk more. They’re scared to death.”

Many could not flee in time.

After the shooting the police seized a 32-year-old Norwegian man on the island, according to the police and Justice Minister Knut Storberget. He was later identified as Anders Behring Breivik and characterized by officials as a right-wing extremist, citing previous writings including on his Facebook page.

I was watching this unfold yesterday on Twitter and via news updates, starting with the bombings in Oslo and culminating with the shootings at the youth camp, and I just kept thinking "Jesus, is it over yet?"

All of those poor children doing nothing but enjoying their day at camp and suddenly they are screaming in terror running for their lives.

Is this guy Norway's Jared Loughner?  Another politically motivated madman, taking out his anger and frustration through terrorist acts directed at innocent bystanders and children? And will Norway respond the same way Arizona did, by refusing to implement more gun control laws to protect their citizens?

So much senseless violence for such petty reasons.


37 comments:

  1. LoveAndKnishesFromBrooklyn1:50 AM

    Late last night, some Faux-minded dimwit commenters on other sites were trying to convince others that the photo was a fake. After all, the Face of Terror is swarthy--ya know, one of them there foreign-lookin' people, the ones that'll scare the crap out of you if you're sittin' next to 'em on a plane.

    I wonder how Faux will spin this one? Ultra-Conservative, Christian, Islamophobe, blue eyes, blond hair. My bet is that they'll ignore this tragedy from here on, since the main player contradicts their RWNJ agenda.

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  2. Anonymous2:57 AM

    I believe his FB page described him as a "conservative Christian." If I am correct, it certainly should give all of us pause to think of the number of violent "conservative Christians" there appear to be. What form of Christianity condones senseless violence like this?

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  3. Anonymous3:15 AM

    You might not like guns, but they'd come in handy should a person have to protect his/her family from crazed, right-wing extremist-type, militia-wannabes. You know, fellow Alaskans like Schaeffer Cox who's accused of plotting to murder a federal judge. Cox is currently trying to get his case dismissed to be free among us once again. They've all got arsenals.

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  4. Anonymous3:35 AM

    Papers in Europe write:
    'The suspect was, according to police, someone with christian-fundamentalist, extreme-right beliefs. On July 17th he wrote on his Twitter-account: 'One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests.'

    Fundamentalists, whatever religion or ideology fuels them, are really scary.

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  5. Barney3:39 AM

    Billo the clown (Fox Snooze) and Laura Ingraham pretended the shooter was a muslim and then went on to talk about an islamic center.


    Fox Snooze is a JOKE and never reports anything correctly, no wonder their viewers are brain dead.


    Fox reporters lying should be arrested and tried for treason, they are just like Sarah Palin stirring up hate and violence and lying all the way to the bank. They will keep destroying this country daily.

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  6. Anonymous3:39 AM

    A real poster boy for white supremacy, eh?

    Now as time moves forward, it will be fascinating what name falls from this sick individual's mouth...Glenn? Sarah? Rush? or any of the hate monger, pot stirring deviants that inhabit that twisted corner of the universe...or Norway's own doppelgangers for the RW mouthbreathers.

    But to target the CHILDREN is such a cold-blooded fashion is truly evil <>.

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  7. Anonymous3:45 AM

    Joe has a word for us...

    IT’S NOT ONLY IN AMERICA

    Guns, Guns, Guns: They kill more people than nuclear weapons

    Crazed gunman kills at least 80 teenagers at summer camp on island near Oslo.

    Why is a deranged person able to assemble his own arsenal, anywhere in the world?

    I’ll leave it to the Norwegian government to answer that question in their own terms, after they bury their innocents.

    But I’ll tell you why it happens in the USA: because our politicians are cowed by the gun lobby and the GOP, and any
    crazy person who wants one can have himself or herself a gun almost overnight. And that’s legally.

    Every time an innocent person is gunned down by a lunatic with a gun, spatters from the blood fall on the hands of U.S. political figures who blindly shout about “the right to bear arms,” as if this was 1776, not 2011.

    Naming names? Who has been more outspoken about this than Sarah Palin?

    Is she directly to blame for the catastrophe in Norway? Of course not. No more than she was directly to blame for the near-assassination of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson.

    But do she and her followers, who preach the virtues of private citizens owning firearms, have at least metaphorical blood on their hands every time a new madman shoots innocent people, whether children or adults?

    You bet they do.

    Will the Norwegian catastrophe change attitudes in the USA?

    Might it move Sarah to say that maybe private citizens should not be allowed to build their own arsenals?

    You bet it won’t.

    Sure, people kill people. But crazed people armed with guns are killing more and more, every day, every month, every year.

    Who’ll stop the rain?

    http://www.joemcginniss.net/guns-guns-guns-they-kill-more-people-than-nuclear-weapons/
    Joe%20McGinniss

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  8. Anonymous3:52 AM

    The children at the camp were aged 14 – 18years, he hunted them down around the island, shooting many as they tried to swim away. This man is a monster, who doesn’t seem to be showing any remorse.

    http://freethinker.co.uk/2011/07/23/right-wing-christian-fundamentalist-charged-following-norway-terror-attack/

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  9. Anonymous4:04 AM

    'Paradise turned into hell': Death toll rises to 91 after twin terror attacks in Norway

    (Lots of images and detail)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017938/Paradise
    -turned-hell-Death-toll-rises
    -91-twin-terror-attacks-
    Norway.html

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  10. Anonymous4:12 AM

    'I could hear his boots and feel his breath' - Survivor tells how he played dead before gunman shot him in the back


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017969/Survivor-tells-played-dead-gunman-Anders-Behring-Breivik-shot-back.html#ixzz1Svhyn9E8

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  11. Anonymous4:50 AM

    'Christianity' has definitively been hijacked if this wad is calling himself 'Christian'. Looks to me like he's parading his bigotry and hatred around under that banner, when in fact he's an anathema to anything one would deem divine or sacred.

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  12. "Is this guy Norway's Jared Loughner? Another politically motivated madman"

    NO. most very likely NO.

    this guy appears to be much more SANE. and therefore much more evil in his disregard for human life.

    jared loughner seems to be -based on any and all publicly available info in total- a genuinely mentally ill person suffering from untreated/untreatable paranoid schizophrenia who did his shooting in [or in the wake of] a full fledged psychotic break.

    whereas Anders Behring Breivik appears to be a perfectly "sane person" -in the legal view that he fully understood his actions. this is a 32 year old guy who has been linked to "radical christian conservative", "anti-multicultural", and "anti-islam and anti-immigrant" political factions in norwegian society. he had no criminal record of note before the day of the bombs and shooting massacre.

    he has been linked to these hard-right ideologies by way of his own web postings prior to the 7.22.2011 attacks he is suspected of...

    essentially, this guy looks like a norwegian racist christian dominionist, more or less a radial "tea partier" of the norwegian political scene.... most likely with explicit "true norwegian" racist and religious ideas. he has already been linked by local police to "anti-muslim, 'anti-multiculturalism' [AKA pro-nordic-white racist] web postings.

    and then he dressed up as a police officer, said he had important info on the oslo bombings (which he is suspected of causing) and gathered people -mostly young teenagers- around him to learn about those bombing. then just started shooting them, point blank.... on an island without a mainland bridge, with literally nowhere to run aside from the cold, cold northern sea far from the mainland, literally the day before the current prime minister was due to arrive and give a speech (thus assuring the island camp would be full of politically interested young people, just ones who the shooter happened to have a political grudge against.....)

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  13. Anonymous5:12 AM

    And not a twit or a twat from BigBoss Quittypants offering condolences to the families who sent their teenagers off to camp on a sunny day...

    And the children who did survive, the utter horror and fear they experienced, and the emotional trauma they will face...

    nope, not a peep. not a facebook statement, not a media comment.

    nada, zip, crickets.

    She has ZERO credibility as a leader.

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  14. from: NPR:norway-rescuers-search-waters-after-island-attack


    "Survivors described a scene there of terror. Several people fled into the water to escape the rampage, and police said they were still searching the lake for bodies.

    A 15-year-old camper named Elise said she heard gunshots, but then saw a police officer and thought she was safe. Then he started shooting people right before her eyes.

    "I saw many dead people," said Elise, whose father didn't want her to disclose her last name. "He first shot people on the island. Afterward he started shooting people in the water."

    Elise said she hid behind the same rock that the killer was standing on. "I could hear his breathing from the top of the rock," she said.

    She said it was impossible to say how many minutes passed while she was waiting for him to stop.

    At a hotel in the village of Sundvollen, where survivors of the shooting were taken, 21-year-old Dana Berzingi wore pants stained with blood. He said the fake police officer ordered people to come closer, then pulled weapons and ammunition from a bag and started shooting.

    Several victims "had pretended they were dead to survive," Berzingi said. But after shooting the victims with one gun, the gunman shot them again in the head with a shotgun
    , he said.

    "I lost several friends," said Berzingi, who used the cell phone of one of those friends to call police."


    -currently is it believed that at least 90 people have been killed in the combined oslo bombings and island shootings. at least 80 of the deceased were teenagers/the adults minding them in the island shooting massacre.

    death tolls are expected to rise as those in hospital pass away and more bodies are recovered on and around the island.


    so, i guess this guy is more like norway's timothy mcveigh. not jared loughner. maybe the virginia tech shooter, the fort hood shooter, the colobine shooters..... but not loughner.

    but the direct gut-shot and then second-shot-to-the-head killings make him seem more horrific to me........... than "just" a bomber who never looked a victim in the eyes and pulled the trigger.

    my heart and thoughts go out to norway right now.

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  15. Anonymous5:48 AM

    Uh Gryph, two corrections. Norway's firearms laws already seem pretty strict (much better than ours, anyway.

    And "children" is not the term for the victims of Utoya - teens would be better - the youngest was 16.

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  16. Anonymous5:50 AM

    And over on the late, great HP the commentors had a field day blaming it on Muslims, railing once more for limits to the murdering loonies, calling for the elimination of any protections for Muslims. Blah, blah, blah. Naturally once it was clear the man is right wing extremist they went into "nevermind" mode and no one seems to be looking to attach Christianity in general. Lone crazy man is once again the explanation. It couldn't possibly be Christianity could have some finger in this guys pie, could it?

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  17. This is far more insidious that Jared Loughner. Loughner is clearly in the throes of a major mental illness. We might conjecture that right wing rhetoric pushed him to do what he did, but we can't be sure. The Norwegian is a Christian fundamentalist, right wing adherent, much like what America has in its far right, Tea Party membership. As soon as the coverage came on screen, I thought of Oklahoma City and knew that it was not extremist Muslims, like some were already reporting. It was homegrown and coming from the right. This is what the right wing ideologues promote, whether that's their intention or not. A very peaceful, progressive country has been violated in the cruelest of ways. Innocent children taken down by a coward with guns; buildings blown up with fertilizer-based bombs and an angry right-wing, so-called Christian gets his picture in the papers - and a starring role in infamy.

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  18. My heart goes out to the families of those that were killed. Just horrific. I cannot even imagine. Norway, my heart is with you.

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  19. Anonymous6:44 AM

    @3:45 a.m.I'm not a gun-nutter by any means. But remember, this guy also set off bombs - and do you know what he made the bombs from? fertilizer. And do you know why he was able to get such large amounts of fertilizer? He was a vegetable farmer.

    So I'd say we stop the heated rhetoric - start fining or jailing people for language that incites violence, and for lying about others.

    That would put both Sarah Palin and FAUX NOISE be hand bars, where they belong for their lies and their fearmongering which have lead to violence.

    McVeigh
    Lauffner
    Roeder

    are examples.

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  20. Anonymous6:57 AM

    How come if the murderer is blonde, blue-eyed and christian fundamentalist, he's a "lone mad man". If he's a brown skinned, dark-eyed muslim, he's a terrorist?

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  21. Olivia7:09 AM

    I am just waiting to see it in print because I know some asshole is thinking it... "See what you liberals made this guy do? If you all weren't trying to turn the world into some commie paradise, this Christian guy wouldn't have needed to go out and shoot a bunch of kids"

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  22. Anonymous7:18 AM

    If he was Muslim, Muslims around the world would be condemned & Mosque would be set on fire in the US. If he was Muslim, it would be nonstop coverage on Fixed News and they would have blamed President Obama.

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  23. Anonymous7:32 AM

    Whenever I hear about mass shootings, after the immediate shock and disbelief and deep sadness, I always wonder how the innocent victims deal with the cost of medical bills.

    When an innocent person not only has to deal with the trauma of the event should they live through it, but the enormous expense of medical care, rehabilitation and loss of their own wages etc. Crime Victims Reparation does not even come close to paying for the financial damages incurred by simply being a victim of a crime.

    At least in Norway, the people who survived this horrific attack do not have to worry about if their health insurance covering the cost for their health needs.

    My condolenses to the people, their family and friends who lost their lives. Best wishes to the survivors for a full and speedy recovery.

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  24. From what I know of Norway, they don't have a "right wing" like we do. Pretty much all politics there (like most of Europe) revolves around providing a good life for their citizens, good education, great health care, and so on.

    The shooter's version goes back further and darker: neo-Nazis have a history there, albeit small and certainly not involved in actual politics. His ideology is most likely an offshoot of that, and to change it into a Christianity based, xenophobic movement probably didn't take much. Most likely he's never heard of Dominionism, but what he believes in is not that much different.

    Evil no matter how you slice it.

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  25. Oh. My. God.

    Eighty people, and counting?

    Kids at camp?

    What has sunk in after reading a few comments is that he was very much going after the children because they were children.

    They were children of "the enemy" who were not yet old enough to vote and effect the negative change he foresaw. But obviously they were being "indoctrinated" already, as the daycamp was Liberal.

    So he murdered the children before they could be adults, old enough to be a real threat.

    He was trying to Force Extinction of a perceived enemy...

    like Hitler, Saddam, etc.

    just on a much smaller scale. But as people have pointed out, there are MANY HEADS to this animal.

    That nutso right now in Alaska is being SUPPORTED and FUNDED by like-minded psychos!! He was trying to KILL JUDGES and TROOPERS!!

    This is indicative of a HUGE spiderweb lying just under the surface of our "civilized" societies.

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  26. Anonymous7:51 AM

    Apparently he's posted multiple times on 'Atlas Shrugs' blog, has ties to the EDL and Norway's neo-Nazi movement.

    more here:

    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/07/norwegian-killer-linked-to-tea-party-and-edl/

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  27. Anonymous8:13 AM

    And where are the religious leaders, like Franklin Grahams (Sarah Palin)who coddle the haters, racists, bigots all in the name of Christ

    The cowards like Palin who hide behind facebook rants and their enablers like Grete and Fox must be held accountable. We have to take our society back from those who strive to take us down to the gutter.

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  28. this story has been haunting me, not only because of all the children and adults murdered and injured, but because much of it happened at a camp, and in norway of all places - a country i have always felt safe in. my husband is the ranger and site manager of the camp we live at - our past incidents, which seemed so troubling at the time, are nothing in comparison. i have learned in living here at a camp that no matter how secure you think it is, if someone wants to act out or commit a crime, it can be done. kids are vulnerable at a summer camp, and this sick person in norway knew that.
    i have read that norway has no death penalty and possibly does not allow life imprisonment, and has lax prison laws. i am not a death penalty proponent, but i would hope that someone like this would be locked up forever.
    i also wish the media would issue an apology where applicable for jumping to the conclusion that the bombing was possibly due to islamic terrorists. this time it was a christian extremist terrorist.

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  29. Anonymous8:49 AM

    Lets see if the right wing lunatic fringe, who called on Muslims to be outraged by what their people did, say ONE STINKING WORD about this, done by one of their own.

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  30. Anonymous9:44 AM

    What a horrifying thing, an extremist is just that, Weather they are islamic or christian, thats exactly why I avoid places with congregations. I'm not interested in their koolaid.
    I will be curious to see how Norway deals with this psycho?

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  31. Breathtakingly-stunning-horrible news from Norway. This event will ripple throughout Norway, with so many friends and family devastatingly affected. I hope this will spur a global movement against automatic weapons (I don’t know what type of weapon(s) were used, but as a staunch 2nd amendment defender I wholeheartedly support the restriction of automatic weapons and ammoclip capacity; automatic weapons’ purpose is not for self-defense or hunting; their only purpose is to slaughter people.) However, when I flipped on CNN at 6:30 am PDT this morning, there was NO coverage of event; they were airing some business money management show.

    The murderer is anti-immigration rightwing madman who was allegedly influenced by at least one American rightwing nutjob:

    http://twitter.com/rezaaslan/status/94799727249457152
    Jul 23 2011 2:08 am PDT
    #Oslo terrorist was apparently big fan of radical Islamophobe Pamela Geller. I expect Jihad Watch will be condemning her anytime now? Ha! via Twitter for iPhone Retweeted by 5 people

    Murderer faces a maximum of 21 years in prison http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article4181076.ece#xtor=RSS-3 (written in Norwegian).

    Here’s some more background on this from Graeme Wood, contributing editor at The Atlantic:
    http://twitter.com/gcaw/status/94695266153795585
    Jul 23 2011 2:08 am PDT
    "Punishment up to 21 years" (!) for Oslo murderer: aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/… (Norsk) about 8 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone from here Retweeted by 1 person
    Jul 23 2011 2:08 am PDT
    http://twitter.com/jarzuli/status/94698225969283072
    Jul 23 2011 2:03 am PDT
    @gcaw Yeah, 21 is the max. nr. of years one can be put to prison for in Norway. They have no life sentence. In Finland it's around 14. via web in reply to gcaw Retweeted by 4 people

    Finally, an insight from a Norwegian here, which supports theory of anti-immigration devotee:
    http://twitter.com/JamesFallows/status/94774487559581696
    Jul 23 2011 7:22 am PDT
    A Norwegian writes: we're seeing mutation of 'jihad' mentality to racist/ anti-immigrant groups http://bit.ly/pwZvBt via TweetDeck Retweeted by 13 people

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  32. Anonymous10:20 AM

    A new article from Frank Schaeffer

    http://frank-schaeffer.blogspot.com/2011/07/christian-terror-in-norway-i-predicted.html

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  33. Has he accepted the invite to be a guest on any Cluster-Fox program that can book him? OR, is he going with Beeeeck...??

    Ya gotta ask yourself... Could he win the GOP nomination here??

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  34. Anonymous10:48 AM

    6:44am said: "So I'd say we stop the heated rhetoric - start fining or jailing people for language that incites violence, and for lying about others"

    Really? You want to jail people for lying about others?
    Half the population would be incarcerated overnight. You must be a private prison stockholder.

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  35. Martha somebody was standing in for Greta last night. She had John Bolton on to "discuss" these horrible attacks.

    No surprise, this genius had nothing helpful to contribute. He warned that we shouldn't dismiss the idea that there could be "other involvement", by which he meant a major terrorist organization or at least their influence. He tried vaguely to suggest a parallel with Maj. Abu Nidal Hassan, the Ft. Hood shooter, who had initially been considered an isolated malcontent, unconnected to Islamic extremism.

    So that's the tidbit of spin from On the Record, courtesy of former ambassador John Bolton, terrorism analyst extraordinaire.

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  36. One last comment.

    According to the NYTimes, this is a Twitter photo of the alleged Norwegian murderer. I have zero medical training, but why would his pupils be so dilated in a photo where his face is so clearly illuminated? LSD causes dilated pupils; what else?

    http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2011/07/22/world/europe/20110723-norway-13.html

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  37. Anonymous8:17 PM

    Sarah we're praying for you to make yourself the victim in this tragedy. Take advantage of it to put the media spotlight back on you. Can't you see you're losing momentum? So, come on! Quit dithering and type out a nice self-pitying tweet. If it's inspiring enough, I could be persuaded to make another donation to SarahPAC.

    You know, Sarah, we may be your adoring public but I have to say we're getting tired of waiting for you to do something.... anything. As devoted as we are, even we have our limits. Bachmann and Perry are starting to look better. Just sayin'.

    Fan of Sarah In Christ

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