Friday, September 23, 2011

Joe McGinniss responds to leaked e-mail.

It looks like Joe responded to Mediaite concerning the e-mail:

My email to Jesse Griffin was an effort to secure Alaskan help in obtaining further corroboration of allegations about Sarah Palin that came to my attention during my research. My reporting continued beyond the date of the email, and only information that checked out to my satisfaction and that of my publisher was included in the book. Ultimately, I published only those allegations which I found to be credible. Other allegations that could not be sufficiently verified, including some of those referenced in my email, are not in my book.

Yes that is precisely correct.

As I mentioned earlier Joe had contacted me after leaving Alaska and asked me try and convince some more sources to go on the record.  This is what I wrote about that exchange:

Even after Joe left Alaska he said "Jesse I need something more than what I found up there." So I tried some more, and essentially ran off people who had once claimed repeatedly to be willing to talk to "the right journalist or author." (If freaking Joe McGinniss was not "the right author" who in the hell were they waiting to interview them?)

I think I was only able to help him with one or two of his questions, but the point was that he was asking if anybody could verify these stories, NOT that he wanted to hear more rumors. (Some like the Brad Hanson affair, I knew less than he did about. Though I DID speak to the reporter that broke the story. And at least three people in Wasilla that also knew of it. Joe knows them as well.)

However the majority of Joe's book is from eyewitness sources that saw the things reported happen just as he describes them. And I certainly did not connect him with Glen Rice, who has substantiated his tryst with Sister Sarah and has no problem with how it is described in the book.

For those taken aback by Joe's style in the e-mail all I have to say is THAT is how Joe talks. There is no patience for bullshit, and he does not beat around the bush.

And do you know what? I was not offended or bothered one little bit, because I knew that the standards for writing a book (And the legal scrutiny that it is subjected to), were MUCH different for a book than they are for my blog.  Which is obviously quite an understatement.

Yes the Right Wing will use this, and every thing else they can find, in a desperate attempt to discredit this book.  But hey if it keeps selling than they fail don't they?

And let's face it, WHO among the viewers of Fox News, and the visitors to Breitbat's blog, were going to buy it anyhow?

The MUCH more important question in my mind is HOW did Breitbart get that e-mail?

I don't share my private e-mails with ANYBODY! At least on my end, the only two people who should have seen it are Joe and I.  And really WHY would Joe send it to anybody else?

So is it possible that we now have an American case of News Corp phone hacking techniques being used by a well known contributor to Fox News? That is the question that I want to see answered!

88 comments:

  1. grammy972:31 AM

    Bingo, Jesse! David Kernell went to jail for guessing $arah's juvenile password. Who will go to jail for Breitbart's cyber crime?

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  2. Anonymous2:32 AM

    I think it's hacking, too. Who knows what else they have.

    Britefart is a devious, dishonest POS and everyone knows it. Amazing, though, how the rightwing and even some of the MSM gives him a pass, though.

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  3. Anonymous2:38 AM

    Wow. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out how Breitbart got that email.

    You have a man with a history of leaking things who is currently promoting a book.

    Duh!

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  4. Anonymous2:40 AM

    Phone hacking?? How does that relate to email?
    Have they been accused of hacking into emails too!

    Breitbart is making a huge deal out of nothing.
    I never liked him but I thought he had some brains. I guess not because all he is doing is proving what Joe says about Sarahs fans. Sarah never learns! They are just illustrating what Bailey wrote about as well.

    According to " our insider" Sarah is asking/practically insisting that people write negative reviews of Joes book.
    Looking for ways to smear Joe is the same thing!

    Get a grip Sarah and call off your thugs!!! Are you stupid??

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  5. Anonymous2:47 AM

    I hope this makes all of you idiots who said that this didn't sound like Joes' writing take a step back.

    Lately the comments on this blog have turned into complete crap. Take a look at some of the comments and think long and hard about the tone.

    I hate Sarah Palin. But some of the comments on this blog make me hate some of you as well. How many of you would like the comments on this blog posted on a mainstream media site. It would make Gryphen look just as bad as the Sea of pee.

    Grow up.

    We need to win this battle by rising above the way that Sarah and her minions act... not by acting the way that they do.

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  6. Anonymous2:50 AM

    What is wrong with those people? (Actually I could name a few things.) They cannot read! The email shows Joe in a very good light. He is being a responsible journalist working to confirm the rumors. What he could not confirm he did not put in his book! Those people make me sick, sick, sick.

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  7. Anonymous2:59 AM

    Time to call in the law!

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  8. FloridaDem2:59 AM

    Well, either Briebart hacked Joe's computer or cell phone, or Joe sent the email to someone. I would think you would have already asked him. What was his response?

    Yesterday you didn't want to put up any links, and today you put up a link that's broken. I had to google it and it was a waste of my time. Would have been easier if you just provided it so we know what the h*ll you're talking about.

    As far as the email, they have a point because a lot of what was in the email ended up in the book from what I understand.

    I think investigating Sarah's life can paint a portrait, and that's legitimate to me, because you can't live in a town and have 90 percent of people say stuff and it not be relevant. You don't necessarily need photographic proof or written documents for every little thing. You can investigate anyone this way, and determine for example if someone is well liked or not, or is a partier, or is studious, or is religous, or whatever. A portrait emerges and you can't hide from your community. That's fair game to me. But I don't think McGinnis was wise to include some rumors, because they people will look at the book and dismiss it as all rumor, when it's clearly not.

    And again, I would ask your buddy what he did with those emails, because I wouldn't be shocked to learn he didn't keep them protected. Besides, why would you guys email something like that back and forth, anyway? Why would you put your discussions in print? Ridiculous.

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  9. Anonymous3:15 AM

    I say you've been hacked, Gryph. Breitbart is just the low-life scum (a la Murdoch) to do such a thing.

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  10. dominicastar3:19 AM

    After reading the leaked email, I was further reassured how well Joe's book was .fact checked and I cam trust his reporting.

    Breitbart actually done himself a disservice in my opinion.

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  11. Anonymous3:21 AM

    Link to Mediaite in first line leads to a 404

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  12. So you think Big Brother has your email hacked. Surprise surprise.
    Time to get some experts in there or change internet providers. Maybe Shailey has some tips for you.

    Time to check the house for listening devices....

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  13. Anonymous3:57 AM

    Just had a thought. Would Joe have leaked the email? It might get him more publicity and there is nothing really damning in it anyway.

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  14. Possibly the email in question was obtained illegally - but is it not also possible that it was intentionally "leaked"? Publicity for the book has been characterized as a "wild rumpus". This could be another incident in the rumpusing, something characterized by the RWNJs as indicating that McGinniss's book is full of lies, while actually showing, to the intended audience, that the reverse is true. If so, it constitutes yet another example of guerilla marketing. As Jesus told his disciples, be as gentle as doves, but as sneaky as snakes.

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  15. Breitbart is scum. He is part of the right wing fringe editing gang. Reality doesn't get them what they want. So they change it or spin it. Since Breitbart has already been shown to have a preference for selective editing, anybody who pays attention to him is an idiot. Oh, wait...we already knew that.
    As for HOW he got the email, I too would like to know. That's the real story here.

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  16. fromthediagonal4:15 AM

    Oh, it would be poetic justice if this were to disclose NewsCorp hacking on this side of the Atlantic.

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  17. Anonymous4:15 AM

    the link in the first sentence doesn't work for me...

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  18. Anonymous4:17 AM

    I think Joe leaked it, with the idea that "any publicity is good publicity". Frankly, though, I wouldn't have known about this unless I had read about it on IM yesterday. Not a big deal, IMO.

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  19. Breitbart's journalism said your blog was defunct. They wish!

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  20. Calli Pygian4:22 AM

    Regarding your last paragraph, Gryphen... Nail on head.

    You should aggressively pursue this potential allegation. This scandal has to be so much bigger than we realize.


    Where there's smoke, there's fire, my dear.

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  21. Anonymous4:35 AM

    I guess some folks think Joe McGinniss can't back up his book even though it received legal scrutiny before being published. Well then, game on. More entertainment surely coming. More publicity for McGinniss' book. And, more critical assessment of the facts of Sarah's past.

    Do you suppose Sarah won't even blink to sue McGinniss or will she just threaten to sue with her standard dither-tease-grift routine? I'm going with the latter.

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  22. Anonymous4:38 AM

    As far as I can tell, the email only proves that Joe wasn't willing to publish anything he couldn't verify. Oh, and that this email was almost a year old, giving him PLENTY of time to get that verification. At any rate, the damn fools are just giving more publicity to his book, so I hope they keep it up.

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  23. Anonymous4:44 AM

    I wouldn't be at all surprised if they've hacked your computers. You might want to start storing all communications to a separate back up drive that is not connected to the internet.

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  24. Okay the first link is fixed.

    Weird, the URL looked fine but did not go anywhere.

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  25. One thing that has bothered me about the "Wild Ride" is why did she think it was amniotic fluid leaking? My first thought would be leaking urine. That happens frequently in pregnant woman. How would she know it was amniotic fluid unless a doctor told her it was...and she didn't go to a doctor. Did God tell her?

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  26. Anonymous5:05 AM

    @ FloridaDem
    "As far as the email, they have a point because a lot of what was in the email ended up in the book from what I understand."

    You don't know they have a point and you don't know anything but your opinion. Shut up and read the book, then come back and discus this.

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  27. Anonymous5:11 AM

    So in other words, Not-So-Bright-Barf pushed the Shailey Tripp story even farther than Joe did.

    Hmmmm.....You know, if I were a *real* conspiracy theorist (tip o' the hat to Coast to Coast), I might think that Joe himself saw to it that BBarf "obtained" the email, knowing he couldn't resist spreading it all over.

    Sometimes it's soooo easy....

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  28. Anonymous5:12 AM

    I read the email and don't understand what the big deal is. Joe was trying to confirm some stories for his book with an Alaskan blogger. This is what writers and journalists do. They confirm stories using multiple sources. They research. So Joe was doing his job and Breitbart doesn't understand that? You must be very close to the truth and must have pissed sarah off quite a bit for her to call in her big dogs rush and breitbart. You should wear it as a badge of honor Gryphen!

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  29. Anonymous5:26 AM

    From here on in I am going to consider all of you rude sacks of crap palinbots. Just here to make the blog look bad. You drove away 'Wendy Waitress'... and continue to drive away others.

    This site should be about coming together to stop Gove palin from every having a voice in politics(or anything else) again.

    Please stop!!!

    Gryphen need us to unite... not to divide!

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  30. Anonymous5:31 AM

    I am assuming the defunct Gryphen blog that Briebart referred to was AWF-"Alaska What the Fuck". It hasn't actually ever been proven who runs that site, no?

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  31. Anonymous5:34 AM

    Not to make you paranoid, Gryphen, and I know you are one brave fella, but it would not at all surprise me if you have been spied upon - and continue to be.

    This is the GOP and Co we are talking about. These are the people who went up to AK and intimidated people in order to keep them quiet about all of Sarah's "foibles". This is the group responsible for the mysterious scrubbing of the web at the time of the VP announcement. They don't mess.

    I agree, you need separate back-up, and I actually think you need to be ready with a satellite site should they hack and bring your site down at any point. If they feel threatened enough, they sure as hell will try. I suppose you could pop up as a guest on one of your allies' sites, but maybe have a plan B in place, all your own.

    We all know you are the farthest thing from defunct, funny they even put that in there, but do make sure they can't keep you from posting for even one day, ok?

    Thanks for all you do, Gryphen. A true patriot, you are.

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  32. Anonymous5:39 AM

    Gryphen, the defunct-y-ness of your blog was greatly exaggerated. (To twist some of Mark Twain's words).

    Releasing that email - no matter where or how Breitbart got it - just pointed out the careful efforts of Joe McGinniss before he published the book. It didn't hurt him or you. So as usual, Breitbart shot himself in the foot. Even Sarah should be happy that Joe McGinniss only published what could be verified. And Gryphen, we already knew that you wouldn't yak about stuff until you could prove it.

    Isn't it ironic that Sarah spent so much energy targeting and smearing her "enemies" while leaving herself open to the worst sort of criticism - so much of which could be verified.

    Sharon1943

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  33. Anonymous5:42 AM

    Thank you anon 2:47.

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  34. Anonymous5:51 AM

    Besides, why would you guys email something like that back and forth, anyway? Why would you put your discussions in print? Ridiculous

    Because "something like that" is conducting business for Joe's book. It's absolutely not ridiculous. It's a standard way of communicating and doing business. Joe was researching his book and looking for sources as he was deciding what to include in his book. There's nothing incriminating there.

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  35. Anonymous5:51 AM

    Jesse-

    A lot of times emails get passed on because of "forwards" when all the previous info is also included. Could have easily happened in the rush of the moment. I could see that email being forwardrd to S Tripp as a way to impart to her the urgency of her story NOT being included in the book. I have read that AB next move is an interview with her. I think that would strongly suggest where the info came from, if that's what happens. She was trashed pretty bad in the email and AB would prob be willing to pony up cash for it right? Just thinkin here...

    Susan in MD

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  36. @mistah charley.

    Guerilla marketing is entirely possible. For those who think as they read, the email supports Joe's book, while for the not-so-Brightbarts they believe it is an expose'. Hehehe.

    Reminded me of Rachel last night, showing part of the wonderful Elizabeth Warren video and saying that right wingers were circulating it too, believing that it made Prof. Warren look bad. Hehehe.

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  37. Anonymous5:56 AM

    JG - Why does Mediaite...

    1. Call your blog defunct?

    and

    2. Refer to you as a woman? (she)

    They come across as complete idiots themselves when they are way off on some very basic reporting.

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  38. Persephone6:00 AM

    If Joe himself didn't leak the email, the question of hacking should certainly be pursued.

    However, the email is exactly what I would expect from a journalist trying to confirm his sources. It also shows the Palin clan, et. al. that Joe was not trying to publish mere rumors, as evinced by the fact that he left the Shailey piece out of the book. It cracks me up that Breitbart furthered the rumor all on his own!

    Furthermore, it shows that Joe, Jesse, etc. are not in lockstep and can criticize each other while trying to get at the truth. Some may characterize this as in-fighting, but I characterize this as an appropriate challenge to rumor-mongering and hearsay. Haven't trolls and loyal fans alike questioned Jesse about his sources and teasing hints? And clearly, Jesse isn't offended by it, so no one else should be on his behalf.

    Lastly, I find it absolutely hilarious that Breitbart doesn't check out Jesse to find that his blog is still up and running. The man apparently doesn't believe in checking information, unlike the subject of his article!

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  39. @Sharon1943. "Isn't it ironic that Sarah spent so much energy targeting and smearing her "enemies" while leaving herself open to the worst sort of criticism - so much of which could be verified."

    As Me Again said, Sarah would have had more privacy if she had stuck to her state email, etc. rather than trying to circumvent it with personal "no expectation of privacy" accounts. Her loss, our gain.

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  40. Gryphen, I know your plate is full, but someone needs to look into this snippet from Me Again:

    She really thought spending a few thousand and getting a couple of reporters to say they [s]aw her "fabric covered bump" would close this chapter.

    Did those guys who call themselves "journalists" accept money to lie?

    Did journlists like O'Malley rely on the word of friends who accepted money to lie?

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  41. Joe's email could have been hacked, or he gave it to someone. No one knows which, right now (well, just a few probably do). If Joe was hacked, I hope that email is the only one which was taken. Otherwise anyone that emailed Joe anonymously their identity has been compromised. That is very unnerving.

    So, I'm going to try to be positive here. That's the only email Breitbart has, and by posting it, he has now exposed others to Joe's book and Gryphen's blog, and hopefully there will be some out there that buy the book, see the blog, and are open-minded enough to begin to question Sarah's motivations.

    And maybe the media will take a harder look at Palin.

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  42. Anonymous6:18 AM

    Glad Bright-barth got more people to hear of Todd paying a hooker.

    Todd... with friends like this, you will do ok.

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  43. LoveAndKnishesFromBrooklyn6:19 AM

    Breitbarf = Faux News = underhanded shit = hacking (that takes into consideration emails as well).

    On the positive side (even though this whole episode is agida-producing) is that this blog IS getting wider and wider play because of it--even though Bbarf stated that it was "defunct" to deflect from it. Believe me, people WILL do a search for IM--maybe that's why the mediaite page is now down??

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  44. LoveAndKnishesFromBrooklyn6:33 AM

    Just read anon238's new comment on the Broomfield post, and this part jumped out at me:

    "...She may be able to pay people like Breitbart TODAY...but eventually she will look around and there won't be anyone left who is willing to put their neck on the line for her. She really thought spending a few thousand and getting a couple of reporters to say they daw [sic] her "fabric covered bump" would close this chapter. And she thinks getting Breitbart to circulate manufactured ...whatever... and have Hannity ignore all the elephants in the room...will keep her base appeased."

    Pay Bbarf? In light of this new Joe McG post, I say hmmm, hmmm and hmmm...

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  45. Anonymous6:36 AM

    You may not share your personal emails with anyone, Gryphen, but Joe does have a well-documented history of inappropriately leaking private documents so you probably don't need to go to the effort of a hacking investigation to find out how the email was "leaked".

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  46. Anonymous6:37 AM

    Anon 2:59. You really are not too bright or you have reading dz c
    I am sorry to be rude but did you read his response or what Gryphen said? Joe is a top notch journalist not a tabloid fiction writer. He was simply telling Jesse he did not have facts for those items. This is his business, his profession. Why wouldn't he put it in writing to Jessw so he was The email was written MONTHS ago and he verified the info before putting it in his book.
    Sarah can sue him if all info is wrong. She won't do this. WHY do you think that is???

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  47. http://legal-beagle.typepad.com/wrights_legal_beagle/hacking-investigation/

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  48. Anonymous6:45 AM

    Jesse, I am surprised you are letting through emails that bash Joe. Why do that? It's mostly Palinbots who get off on it and yes a few who don't like Joe.
    But you know he has no nefarious reason if he did send that email to someone, like his editor, don't you?

    The critics are dense. He was listing items he had to fact check and it was an OLD letter! That doesn't mean he didn't fact check them. Why would he ruin his entire career over that? To those of you who are not Palinbots, but dislike Joe, can't you just restrain yourselves. Why give Sarah the satisfaction?


    Everyone in Alaska knows that Sarah nit only turns against critics, she does everything in her power to destroy them.
    Here is another example of Sarahs work.
    She's a dangerous psychopath.

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  49. Anonymous6:45 AM

    I hope this makes all of you idiots who said that this didn't sound like Joes' writing take a step back.

    Lately the comments on this blog have turned into complete crap. Take a look at some of the comments and think long and hard about the tone.

    I hate Sarah Palin. But some of the comments on this blog make me hate some of you as well. How many of you would like the comments on this blog posted on a mainstream media site. It would make Gryphen look just as bad as the Sea of pee.

    Grow up.

    We need to win this battle by rising above the way that Sarah and her minions act... not by acting the way that they do.

    2:47 AM

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    If yours is the representative example of grown-up behavior then I shall happily remain child-like.

    That was a lame ass attempt to smear joe and the commenters here. Now shoo, go back and sit in the pool you already peed in.

    Susan in MD

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  50. Anonymous6:46 AM

    So who are you going to contact about that? The justice Dept since they have been looking into News Corp?

    Breitfart probably hacked Anthony Wiener's phone and probably hacked somebody's account here. This is ridiculous that he gets away with this crap. I hope you pursue it.

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  51. Sally in MI6:56 AM

    I think this was a case of hacking as well. Breitbart is a slimy thing. That said, it looks like the email hasn't diminished anything as far as the book. Anyone with a brain (I guess that does leave out Breitfart and his fans) could see that the date was January and that the book was still being written. AND that Joe was asking for verification. Nothing to see there. Then, the GOP had to have yet another dog and pony gong show, so even the right has moved on.

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  52. Anonymous7:06 AM

    Just another ...."but, but, look over there...." tactic. I hope the hacker IS tracked down and I hope he (Briefart) is sentenced to the full extent of the law.

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  53. Anonymous7:08 AM

    I think the email was hacked by one of Murdoch's lackey's ( and no to the troll from the other day, that does not refer to LATCHKEY children).
    It is not out of the realm of possibilities that Murdoch's world wide hacking experts were told to "get the goods" on Joe and protect Murdoch's investment in SP.

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  54. FloridaDem, so what if some of the items in that email ended up in the book? It doesn't mean Breitbart et al have a point. What it says to me is that furtner investigation found sufficient evidence to warrant their inclusion.

    Joe has made it perfectly clear that nothing made it into the book without corroboration by multiple people.

    If Breitbart is following Joe as closely as he should be in an honest attempt to evaluate the book, he should have already known that before he started his smear campaign. And if it turns out he's been a chump who fell for a deliberate marketing leak, as Mistah Charlie, PhD speculates, then all the more delicious.

    I not a fan of the more lurid Sarah Palin tales, either. I would have loved a comprehensive examination of real corruption. Dairygate seems a doozy of an issue! However, I suppose that mass appeal demands the inclusion of affairs and one night stands. You said as much in one of your last great comments. Also, considering that Palin's thin resume rests on her acclaim as a wife and mother, I suppose that revealing that false facade is legitimate information.

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  55. Anonymous7:21 AM

    Never say anything in email that you wouldn't also shout from the steps of the courthouse. Email is not private in any way.

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  56. Anonymous7:28 AM

    Might Bailey, or one of those three musketeers, leaked the e-mail to Bretbart to get back at Joe for releasing their manuscript? Joe may have copied one/all of them to ask for confirmation as well.

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  57. FEDUP!!!7:31 AM

    Well, I sure as heck hope that you will pursue this to the fullest! Get the FBI involved if needed, and then throw the book at whoever they find. NO MERCY - because if you do show mercy o this, 'they' will take it as weakness!

    O/T: Got Joes book yesterday and read the first 4 chapters (had to give up afterwards, because I am still recovering from some illness this week.)
    INCREDIBLE stuff that he details in there - and very well documented. Somehow, after reading the first few 'reviews', I had been a bit worried that he only was able to quote 'anonymous' sources, but, at least so far, about 99% are attributed to names. Either those early 'reviewers' did NOT read the book, or they were paid by $arahPAC to say whatever! I hope someone will challenge them on this.
    GREAT JOB, JOE! (and incredible, what kind of local 'climate' he describes - still shaking my head - and also worried about the future of our country, because the Palin Mafia WILL bring this (and already has brought it) to our elections - thanks to the Teabaggers, and the Christian Taliban.

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  58. Anonymous7:36 AM

    Have you called the FBI to investigate this hacking? Since you are in AK and Joe was back East the email crossed state lines which means the hacking was a Federal crime.

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  59. Anonymous7:37 AM

    I think this is a case of hacking. It doesn't seem plausible for hacking to be so withspread with Murdoch's UK publications and not happen at all here. Haven't read the email itself, but from what I've heard there's nothing outrageous there, just a reporter at work trying to get extra info.

    However, if hacking is widespread at Fox News here, how should this make Sarah feel? I have a feeling she was a primary target, and that all her secrets are bare to the bosses, who can use that info at their discretion.

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  60. I hate Sarah Palin. But some of the comments on this blog make me hate some of you as well. How many of you would like the comments on this blog posted on a mainstream media site. It would make Gryphen look just as bad as the Sea of pee.

    ~~~~~~~
    So let me get this straight:

    YOUR way of expressing YOURSELF and YOUR OPINION is the "correct" way, and when you DISAGREE with how others express THEIR OPINIONS, you openly state that you "HATE" them?

    Listen up, Buttercup~

    This is a blog. It's not a classroom, it's not a newspaper and it's not a scientific journal.

    People follow this blog because of Jesse, don't flatter yourself that it's your sage commentary that draws them.

    So, back to you telling us all how much you HATE that WE are expressing OURSELVES EXACTLY like you are, dipshit.

    If you don't like the "tone", get lost.

    You won't be missed.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    And for the moron who wrote that it was "ridiculous" (!!) for two private American citizens to communicate privately via e-mail?

    Make sure your shoes are on the correct feet; you could really hurt yourself.

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  61. Anonymous7:41 AM

    The letter proves Joe is a stand up journalist who requires proof and truth something bightbarf knows nothing about, the drunkard, smelly fool.

    GoL

    Trolls, stfu and get a clue, your idiot idol is a phony, lying, uneducated, cry baby, weird, racist sloot

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  62. Anonymous7:45 AM

    Better check around your house...they probably let themselves in when you were gone one day, I'll bet. Anything out of place, lately?

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  63. emrysa7:47 AM

    gryphen, I kind of think that joe himself leaked that email to provide some evidence to the crazy right wing that yes, he was in fact looking for proof before he published the things he heard. but he had no idea just how twisted those drooling low-iq-ers were, they took it to mean something completely different and ran with it!

    I'm not sure joe understands the extent to which the right wing has gone flat-out rabid crazy. up is down and black is white to these people - they're certifiable. explains why they like the quitter.

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  64. Anonymous8:45 AM

    Seems many of us went out to buy Joe's book yesterday in light of the e-mail scandal. Joe gets more sympathy and sales, Breitbart gets more clicks to his website, Gryph, also, too. Everybody WINNING!!!

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  65. You and probably Joe need some good encryption software. In your position you should probably use it every time for anything "sensitive". At least then you will know it wasn't on your end that the intrusion took place.

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  66. Anonymous9:24 AM

    From what I've read it appears the AK office of the FBI is an much in Sara's hip pocket as the rest of law enforcement there. She must wear the water bra when she's talking to the agents.

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  67. Anonymous9:56 AM

    No one will go to jail for Brietbart's cyber crime because it was probably someone fromt the Palins who did it.

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  68. Anonymous10:17 AM

    Good article slamming Breitbart and defending Joe's methods here:

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2011/09/23/the_mcginniss_e_mails.html

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  69. Anonymous10:22 AM

    Notsobright's hacked e-mail was devastating.
    To Palin.
    The allegations he reprinted from the e-mail were awful.
    Why repeat them ?
    Notsobright also illustrated that McGinniss
    and his publishers
    wanted multiple sources
    for the allegations that would eventually go to print.
    Thus validating that McGinnis obviously
    satisfied his publisher's demands .
    In Notsobright's creepy and hysterical quest to
    defend the
    object of his all consuming worship ,
    Saint Sarah ,
    he has exposed to himself to legal investigations ,
    made himself look like a fool,
    validated Joe,
    increased traffic to this site
    and aired more of Palin's dirty laundry.

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  70. Never say anything in email that you wouldn't also shout from the steps of the courthouse. Email is not private in any way.

    7:21 AM

    AMEN!

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  71. Anonymous11:02 AM

    ONE Word of advice:
    CONTACT the FBI ASP.

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  72. Anonymous11:12 AM

    A comment from the Levi lied on the View thread that bears repeating:

    Jean said... The trolls are obviously the Palin family, my mpression anyway.

    In Baileys book, someone here mentioned it, Bailey says Sarah called him in August 08 to complain that Bristol was pregnant but she knew about the pregnancy in May 08 and knew she was being picked to run as vp in May of 08 and of course before that.

    So if the Tripp pregnancy was known in May of 08 as well as the vp slot, why would she call Bailey to cry about Bristols' pregnancy in Aug. 08

    Bailey may have slipped with this one. If Palin called him complaining of Bristol being pregnant in Aug. 07, now that makes sense

    Bristol is seen on video in NY in Oct. 07 at a JLO guest appearance and Bristol looks pregnant

    If Bristol got pregnant in say August of 07, she would have had a premature baby in Feb. 08 and that baby had to be in preemie care Levi and Bailey are guys, and let's face it, not to nsult anybody, guys are just not into the persona stuff that happens with pregnancy

    I have 3 grown sons and have experience with the opposite sex and how thick they can be when it comes to women

    The Palins, especially Sarah & Bristol, played Levi. Bristol was already pregnant when she called Lev to come over right away and then told him she wanted to get pregnant What did Levi know about when & if Bristol took birth control pills. He didn't. Tripp was conceived out of spite for the taking of Trig or because Bristol really wanted to help Mommy with the coverup of Trig pregnancy and to have her own baby at the theesame time. A win win.

    Levi said a while ago, something about the secret had to do with dates and what wasn't said. Was it him who said Trig was Tripp before he was Trig? Bristol was away from Levi and could have hidden her Trig pregnancy and we know there was a very tiny baby born in Feb. 08

    This all jives with Palin waiting to find out when Trig would be released from the hospital so she could plan the puppy delivery. Now it seems clear to me.

    Again, it's easy to fool men with this stuff, not al men, and I'm not bashing men here, however it's well known that women have it all over the guys in the awareness department My opinion of the babygate only. Thanks Gryph

    5:40 AM

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  73. emrysa11:49 AM

    10:17 am posted:

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2011/09/23/the_mcginniss_e_mails.html

    thanks for that link, it is a good one.

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  74. Anonymous12:08 PM

    Do you think Breitbart and James o'keefe are setting you up with the "me again" emails?

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  75. Anonymous12:59 PM

    I don't have a comment about the email; I think it pretty much speaks for itself. What concerns me is your characterization of McGinniss as not pulling any punches. I've been concerned about that on most of his interviews. He doesn't OWN what he's written. When questioned about a rumor, specifically the Trig birth rumor, he really vacillates. I understand he is a non-believer, but I'm not sure it is doing us any favors handling the story this way. Just my 2 cents.
    ~physicsmom

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  76. Anonymous2:57 PM

    Just want to remind all of you what happened to the last person who accused Breitbart of hacking: he lost his job in disgrace, may have lost his marriage, and is the laughing stock of the country. Good luck Jesse, you're going to need it.

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  77. Anonymous3:19 PM

    Thanks 11:49 am
    I love that David Weigel repeated Breitbart:

    a) Todd had sex with a hooker, or with anyone else outside his marriage.
    b) Sarah had an affair with Brad Hanson, or anyone else.
    c) Track was a druggie who enlisted in the army to avoid a jail term. Or that he vandalized Wasilla school buses.
    d) Willow was involved in the vandalism of the empty house in Meadow Lakes. Or that Sarah rushed back from Hawaii to put the lid on that.
    e) Trig is not Sarah’s natural born child.
    f) Bristol was promiscuous as a high schooler and drank and used drugs, or became pregnant again after Tripp’s birth.

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  78. AKRNC3:20 PM

    You'll notice that, most importantly, Breitbart does not show the date of the email. However, it does speak of the upcoming book by Geoffrey Dunn, giving McGinniss quite a bit of time after the email was sent to find sources to validate the things that were included in his book prior to it being sent to his publisher.

    Gryphen, have you seen anything else printed on RW web sites that defame you with info that could only have been obtained by hacking into your computer? If you're not capable of determining whether you've been the victim of a hacking, I'd try to find someone who can. Don't let Breitbart get away with this, please.

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  79. Anonymous3:44 PM

    Jesse: On Breitbart's website he lists what he finds objectionable in Joe's book. He lists them in a larger italic font at the top of the post. Then he lists them in bold dropheads as he refutes each allegation. He doesn't say anywhere in bold or italics that he believes they aren't true.

    YOu know, most people never read the text. Most people skim headlines. Twice he emphasized the allegations against Palin. And he's read by thousands who would otherwise not ever even see these allegations. What an idiot.

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  80. Anonymous4:53 PM

    Have you reported this possible hacking to the Feds?

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  81. FloridaDem5:23 PM

    "...Because "something like that" is conducting business for Joe's book. It's absolutely not ridiculous. It's a standard way of communicating and doing business."

    Yes, when you're talking about mundane matters. But when you're talking politics, then you protect what is said so it can't be twisted later and used against you. Like the other poster commented, don't put anything in an email that can't be shouted from the courthouse steps. Nobody ever said politics was fair. It's the opposite of fair, it's dirty.

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  82. FloridaDem5:35 PM

    "...FloridaDem, so what if some of the items in that email ended up in the book? It doesn't mean Breitbart et al have a point. What it says to me is that further investigation found sufficient evidence to warrant their inclusion."

    What further evidence? Some of that stuff could have been left out, because it's rumor. I have no doubt she had affairs, but we don't know if Brad was really one of them for sure. And I don't know if snorted cocaine or not. When you know your book is going to be torn apart and attempted to be discredited by the right wing, you don't give them any help. You present your strongest case and leave the rest.

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  83. Anonymous12:47 AM

    I hope this makes all of you idiots who said that this didn't sound like Joes' writing take a step back.

    Lately the comments on this blog have turned into complete crap. Take a look at some of the comments and think long and hard about the tone.

    I hate Sarah Palin. But some of the comments on this blog make me hate some of you as well. How many of you would like the comments on this blog posted on a mainstream media site. It would make Gryphen look just as bad as the Sea of pee.

    Grow up.

    We need to win this battle by rising above the way that Sarah and her minions act... not by acting the way that they do.

    2:47 AM

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    If yours is the representative example of grown-up behavior then I shall happily remain child-like.

    That was a lame ass attempt to smear joe and the commenters here. Now shoo, go back and sit in the pool you already peed in.

    Susan in MD

    6:45 AM

    Did you read what I wrote. Please go back to school and get basic reading comprehension under your grade 3 brain. I was supporting Joe. LEARN TO READ!!!

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  84. Anonymous6:45 AM

    "Just want to remind all of you what happened to the last person who accused Breitbart of hacking: he lost his job in disgrace, may have lost his marriage, and is the laughing stock of the country. Good luck Jesse, you're going to need it."

    That expalins it all, the same kind of people as the Palins. Enough said.

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  85. Anonymous7:58 AM

    Where does Joe say in his response that the email was leaked?

    Answer: he doesn't.

    Kind of strange, no?

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  86. Anonymous8:29 PM

    Joe, you are throwing Shailey under the bus.

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  87. Anonymous11:32 AM

    You all are sick puppies. Its very strange to see so much hate make so many feel good about themselves. But, hey, have at it, after all this is America, and we are still free...at least until you all get your way

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  88. Anonymous3:52 PM

    OH oops,
    I just found the comment and I accidentally posted it on the LATimes and it showed my name. sheesh. Taking off tinfoil hat. 8D

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