I am currently in the process of writing my last post on Levi's book, where I was going to compare what is written in the book with what I learned in my research, point out its inaccuracies, and then try to explain possible reasons for them
I thought I would do this by first introducing Levi's version and then demonstrating how my information refutes it. (You can see where I first laid out the important details of his book here and here.)
But then I ran into a snag.
You see even BEFORE I can refute Levi's version of Bristol's pregnancy, he does it for me!
As you undoubtedly remember one of the more shocking revelations in Levi's book was that Bristol's due date was ACTUALLY supposed to be mid to late January, rather than mid to late December as previously stated.
This revelation comes after Todd asks Levi to take the snowmachines up to the cabin with him, Willow, and Piper the day after Christmas. Which Levi agrees to, since:
Bristol wasn't due for another three weeks.
Aha, we exclaim,! We KNEW there was something hinky about Bristol's pregnancy!
However then we get to the photo insert section of the book only to find THIS picture.
You have seen the picture before so you may not find it surprising except that beneath the photo the caption reads:
My sister Sadie's sophomore prom night, and a two-month pregnant Bristol, together in my bedroom. This is one of the very few pictures I have of Bristol.
I have confirmed that this picture was taken on April 25, 2008. That would mean that Bristol got pregnant in February, which makes THIS statement, attributed to Bristol after learning that her mother was pregnant on March 5, completely nonsensical.
"I'm the one," Bristol said, "who should be having a baby. Not Sarah."
Bristol looked at me. "Let's get pregnant."
WTF? If indeed she was two months pregnant in this April 25th picture, then WHY would she say she now wanted to get pregnant? And besides that would have meant that her due date was sometime in November, and by December 27th she would have been more than a month overdue.
So essentially Levi has given two different due dates, neither of which is December 18 or 27. One is a month earlier, and the other a month later, than Tripp was supposedly born.
So which one is it Levi.
Let's assume that she WAS two months pregnant in that picture taken the night of Sadies' prom.
That would have meant she was at least six months pregnant in this picture from August 24, 2008.
Anybody see a six month baby bump there? You know for that matter does anybody see a five month baby bump there?
And while we are on the topic of inconsistent body changes, pray tell how did Bristol go from the size she is in the above photograph to THIS in only ten days?
Or do we in fact already know that?
What is abundantly clear is that this is not a book where Levi finally reveals the secrets that Sarah Palin and her family do not want you to know. This is a book where Levi continues to clumsily provide cover for two different, and completely implausible pregnancies.
By writing a book so full of contradictions and inconsistent time lines Levi has made it relatively simple for the Palin supporters and journalists to dismiss out of hand. Was it written that way on purpose? Does the Palin family still hold some sway over Levi that enabled them to convince him to sabotage his own book?
The question is, after everything the Palin family has done to him and his family, why would he continue to do their bidding?
Let's not forget to add...that if Bristol was 2 mos pregnant on 4/25 but then not due until mid-january, that would have made her pregnant for 11 mos. Fail again Levi!!!
ReplyDeleteWow, dealing with the Palins means dealing with a never-ending series of questions.
ReplyDeleteI finally got my copy of The Rogue from the library and started reading it last night. Amazing and riveting narrative.
Wasilla is certainly not on my bucket list of places to see before I die. I feel so sorry for the decent people caught there.
No small wonder they have so many churches - all the lies, all the fear, and all the anger there. They have a truly great need to seek forgiveness.
So, you've finally decided that Levi is/has been deceptive to cover up for someone. Do you think he's covering for the Palin's? If so, why? Is it because he's been paid off? Is it because he was blackmailed? Was he complicit in the lies, because it showed him in a poor light as well? Or something else completely? If he is lying, and it appears he is, then are his sister and mother so totally naive and unaware of what really went on, that they honestly don't know about birth dates, or Levi's life? Or are they lying to help cover up as well? The coincidences you outlined a few days ago, make me think they have to be the most gullible (or dumb!) family on the planet, or they have been willing participants, too. Or they were blackmailed. Which is it? I have to add that Mercedes and her mother are so freaking vague in there stories that it makes me wonder about them. That is one very dysfunctional family as well. Liars, all of them.
ReplyDeleteIF Bristol stopped taking the pill on March 5th, she would have been about 8 weeks along (2 months) by April 25th.
ReplyDeleteIMO Levi gets very confused with the multiple pregnancy timelines. He knows Bristol was pregnant at 16, but can't admit it.
He knows a lot. And I would guess that he's been paid a lot by the Palins. Sickos.
ReplyDeleteOh, sorry... they're tight, strong, happy sickos, with deep roots. The best sicko family in the history of the universe (if you know them - otherwise STFU!).
This from the Urinal has got to take the cake. Delusional much?
ReplyDelete"IsraeliCojones 2 minutes ago
Musings:
- She was ready to jump in after the last debate;
- Something of extreme gravity happened after that. We may never know what it was, at least as long as Obama and the Soros Mafia are in charge and powerful enough to "get to" her;
- And even though, since "it" worked once, it can work for other times too, that is each time she seeks any office again, let alone the Presidency;
- If Palin was corruptible, hence controllable, she wouldn't have all those problems. She's not and that is why she must be eliminated;
- As long as Obama and the present political class (GOP and RNC) is in charge, she has no chance in hell of having a meaningful political career;
- She's not and never has been wired for any cheerleader role;
- It is possible that the punditry crowd has got the memo, for months now, that she would be stopped in her tracks in the end, so that they didn't have to worry about the "celebrity/not running" memes, since they would be proven right in the end;
- If it was only her threatened, she would have gone for it; but the kids, everyone would have said "no" to such prospect.
- I wish she would retire until after 2012; it is the best for her.
- If Obama wins, perish the thought, she should built a Conservative Party and let the GOP go the Whigs way.
- I wish people acknowledged that a "period of mourning", soul-searching and questioning is ABSOLUTELY necessary in those circumstances, because if not, cognitive dissonance, denial and later, massive depression will be the price to pay for this impatient "let's move on", and it won't be pretty. I'm talking about the Palinistas, but also about Sarah Palin.
- I also wish, as I first posted when I heard the news, that everybody would hold their fire against this noble woman, because she truly has been the only one fighting for you, not for her.
G-d bless Sarah and family.
I'm off for the Day of Atonement.
I would like to add 'see ya', but I'm not so sure about that now.
Still, I love you."
is it possible that Trig and Tripp are twins??? Tripp has always looked bigger than TriG.
ReplyDeleteI bet he thinks he is "protecting" his family, but trust the Palin's to inflict damage even on their "friends".
ReplyDeleteLevi's date for the photo is consistent with Bristol's comment that she didn't go to her prom because she was pregnant. Perhaps they actually had some script they were both reading from.
ReplyDeleteLevi, why lie? What's the Palin mafia's threat? If just seeing Tripp, a family court can fix that for you.
Because he's young, naive, rather nicely simple and they're powerful, cunning, and dangerous.
ReplyDeleteThey've conned him, and let's face it, they've conned millions, so working him must be a piece of cake. They have his child, and his heart is soft. He, fortunately, isn't any better or more consistent at lying than the Palins, so it all hangs out there as just incomprehensible nonsense, those pregnancy stories. Plus, young men his age often have blurry memories for details like special dates, etc.
Not the poor boy's fault, he had the incredible misfortune to get caught in the awful Palin undertow. Cut him some slack.
on Stewart Says What The Media Won’t: Sarah Palin Is A Scammer
ReplyDeleteWhile discussing Sarah Palin’s decision not to run for president, Jon Stewart put all the pieces together and called her out for running a scam.
Here is the video from The Daily Show:
http://www.politicususa.com/en/jon-stewart-palin-scam
The time shifts might make more sense if one does not assume that Trig Palin was born in April, but in fact several months earlier. It's sloppy story telling but may not be anything more than that combined with the need to stay *on script* in terms of the official Trig birth date.
ReplyDeleteBecause he is young and dumb as a brick and does not want to pay nor can afford to pay that child support. They are blackmailing him and have been all along as he is them, and the attorneys are licking their chops. He is an opportunist who will do what ever is the easiest to fill his pockets and stay out of trouble. I have one just like him at home--sorry, most young men are REALLY, REALLY, dumb no matter how much you scream and yell and use logic. They are not capable of thinking with the head that is located on their neck for a long time and in some cases, never. That is why, for me, I can't get too mad at him. It is called frontal lobe, hormones, and a culture that is leaving its young men behind. Thanks to your hard work, Gryphen, it will be noted so that anything he says either way is suspect and considered null and void. Honestly, he does not have a clue as to what really happened with dates, etc. He is just keeping it cloudy as he is told and too dumb to figure out he looks like a fool. No average 20 year old pays attention to those kinds of details, shit, they can't even take a bath or find their keys 90% of the time. He will be writing a regretful "tell-all" someday when he grows up and has to answer Tripp's questions. Scara is laying the ground work for when that day comes.
ReplyDeleteJon Stewart is the first person on television to call out Sarah Palin for scamming her supporters. Everyone who writes about Palin already knew that she was running a big con, but this was never discussed on television. The talking heads would make references to Palin not wanting to give up her TV gig or her paid speeches, but they never were brave enough to speak the truth. Since she quit as governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin was running a big con.
ReplyDeleteBack when she bolted out of Alaska it seemed logical that she quit early in order to position herself to run in 2012, but instead she did the opposite. From the moment that she quit, Palin has been all about making money. Every move that she has made has been about getting paid, including her fake decision making process concerning running in 2012. She got a bus. She went on tours. She did everything, but hire a staff, form an exploratory committee, or anything else that a serious candidate would do.
A few weeks ago Palin pulled her final 2012 con when she sent out a fundraising letter that misled her supporters into giving her money when she had no intention of running for president. The mainstream media has given Sarah Palin a total pass, but Jon Stewart didn’t. He connected the dots and told America what many of us always knew.
Sarah Palin is a grifter. She could see that that her fifteen minutes were almost up, so Palin went for one last score before she was forced out of the politics game, and her scam would have never been mentioned on television if it wasn’t for Jon Stewart.
http://www.politicususa.com/en/jon-stewart-palin-scam
I don't know if you heard but Palin isn't running.
ReplyDeleteSo you're pretty much out of business.
Oh, those silly Palins and their crazy pregnancies!!! After all, bringing a life into this world isn't complete if it doesn't serve some sort of twisted agenda.
ReplyDeleteQuestion is, why would the RNC peeps put Bristol in that gray dress Sept 3rd, and a normal nicer dress the 4th? That's weird to me.
ReplyDeleteShe looked lovely the last night at the RNC AND she looked natural Aug 29th.
Sept 3 was weird. Now, as a woman who knows clothing, that gray dress is fit to make your breasts look bigger. I think her due date was likely in Dec sometime. Bristol was confident enough in April to tell her friends and Wasilla people that she was pregnant. To have a Jan baby, on time, that baby would be CONCEIVED in April. If conceived in April, there's no way the mother would know she was pregnant in April.
Because of other times Levi outright contradicts himself, things that really have nothing to do with s Palin, I think Levi was just a bad editor and story teller. I think that period in his life was bad and instead of reliving it, he created a new reality long ago. Why else would he NOT mention his anger and negative feelings in early 08? Why would he treat he and Bristol's relationship as if it were a match made in heaven? He's suppressing.
Another good point, I think it's weird that Levi has now given 2 different (albeit slightly) versions of how they told HIS family about the pregnancy. AND both those versions contradict Sadie's story about it.
GAHHHHH
This is why I don't think the deceit and lies in the book are intentional. There are too many and random ones at that.
I mean, cmon G, this boy has said:
I never seen Sarah cry
and
I ve seen Sarah cry a couple times.
You know what I just can't figure out? How could the authors of this book NOT notice the inconsistencies?
ReplyDeleteThese people are all just nuttier than fruitcakes or they have no sense of time/place. No sense of truth either.
Just add it to the pile of crazy.
Sarah Palin industry faces depression
ReplyDeleteThe muted GOP reaction to Sarah Palin’s departure from the Republican presidential field Wednesday suggests the party had moved on months ago. Not so for the thriving cottage industry that grew at her feet, and whose future is now in danger.
Palin lovers, Palin haters, a half-dozen publishing houses, and elements of the mainstream media who tracked her plans long after the Republican campaign bypassed her suddenly face a future without their entertaining, unpredictable, and now scarcely relevant subject.
Palin’s circle of online admirers greeted her announcement with shock and dismay. The camp who saw her as a nascent American Mussolini, with shock and joy. And the publishers, broadcasters and reporters who yoked themselves to Palin were already moving on.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65359.html
I don't know. Bristol was never really that into Levi anyway, even though they has sex all over Alaska. Maybe he was thinking about the other girls he might have gotten pregnant cause Bristol wished he wasn't her baby's father.
ReplyDeleteWhy not leave those innocent kids alone, dude, you're so immature, and Bristol is a strong willed girl with deep roots. She loves babies, popcorn, and her Juneau friends know that Tripp is loved even with a thug for a father who only cares about hunting and fishing. This I know.
P.S. Bristol I want a raise before SarahPac runs dry.
As usual, more questions than answers. Why did Palin's Deceptions abruptly end after the Cornerstone posts? Is Tripp 2 months younger or 9 months older than advertised (he sure was a BIG baby in the Today show interview)? Was Trig just one of Sarah's bright ideas and not related to the Palins at all? Is he just a cover-up for a WiteOut? Which baby was really due in January and born in December? Ruffles? What happened to s/he? It seems that once things start focusing on Bristol and her odd shape the trolls come out - let's see if today is any different.
ReplyDeleteI hope someday all the Palin kids get some mental health counseling - next to neglected Trig, it seems that Piper will suffer the most and I do feel sorry for them all as the world Sarah has created for them is completely fucked up.
Thing is, Bristol would have known her duedate since the beginning and I would think she wouldn't keep it a secret.
ReplyDeleteBefore the VP announcement, why would they even think about fudging things.
Who knows why Levi "wrote" these things.
I think Levi's memory just sucks. There is tons of proof that this is the case. Esp when he tries to recount the events SINCE election day.
To me, Bristol looked way too pregnant towards the end of the campaign and she looked content as well.
But really, we don't know squat do we.
Favorite Palin take down by The Daily Show ever.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-october-6-2011/indecision-2012---take-the-money-and-don-t-run
Just cause a lot of men use women's parts doesn't mean they understands them. Many grown men I know still don't know what to do with them or what goes on in there - so I'm certain Levi is just like a dead fish going with the flow.
ReplyDeleteJust going on the information that the Palin's (who don't know how to plan or do any kind of damage control to save their lives) cooked up and he bit, hook, line & sinker.
I don't think he means to lie, he just doesn't know. The same way Chuck, Sarah and Todd didn't know how to talk about the miracle of Trig and Bristol the joy of Tripp.
It's just one big fucked up family.
What people write in their "memoirs" is their choice. That's all I can say.
ReplyDeleteLevi wanted us to believe he had the perfect relationship.
Levi wanted us to believe Bristol was always the only girl for him.
Levi wanted us to believe he was a serious teenage boy who never did anything remotely controversial or typical of teenagers.
Levi wanted us to believe that he was Benjamin Braddock, when in reality and his past interviews, that is pretty farfetched and ridiculous.
Well, it is all about the money. My guess is that the book was first screened or partially written by Palins attorneys. I do not have and never will have any respect for Levi. I believe he basically sold his baby to the Palins. He will regret his decisions someday, but it will be too late. Anyway Gryphen keep up the great work.
ReplyDeleteAgain I say, is nothing about this family "real"? Seems everything they say and do is just a convoluted lie. No wonder they keep "conderdictering" themselves..it's got to be impossible to remember so many lies and half truths!
ReplyDeleteI really like Mercede, but just shake my head at a sophomore in high school wearing such a dress! Interesting though to see that she and Bristol seem to be quite good friends in that picture.
The picture of Bristol in the gray dress is so strange..whomever added the fake pg suit did a good job as it is very obvious..especially up around the bust area. Too bad that no one in that family possesses one iota of fashion sense. That dress was a very unfortunate choice.
Keep up the good work!
PS...you need to put John Stewart's show last night up..he really skewers dear Sarah. Couldn't happen to a more deserving person.
Once again the few photos of the Palins that are circulating are all that we have to go on. There should be many more photos of a governor whose job requires attendance at public events.
ReplyDeleteA few photos are a Rorschach test. Many photos are proof. The scrubbing of computers and photo files has been mentioned in the past but it seems not to have been explored as a form of coverup.
Newspapers must have hundreds of photos on file or in archives. Are they recoverable under FOIA?
Also, too...I always thought that the sofa pillows stuffed into Bristol's dress at the convention were to make her look LESS pregnant. Epic fail! Levi and his mother and sister know more than they are telling. No doubt they are afraid of retaliation, particularly against Sherry, if they tell all that they know. There is proof out there. We just have to keep searching and be patient. At the end, even Deep Throat came out from hiding.
The question is, after everything the Palin family has done to he and his family, why would he continue to do their bidding?
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to protect the father of Bristol's babies - what is the penalty when a man does not throw an experienced horny teenager out of his bed?
Levi's mom was already set up by the Palins.... His dad was smart and moved to AZ.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteI don't know if you heard but Palin isn't running.
So you're pretty much out of business.
4:56 AM
Palin family member or Sarah herself:
We are not out of business til you and your hoax are fully exposed.
But hey, however you find comfort these days is totally understandable.
I don't know if you heard but Palin isn't running.
ReplyDeleteSo you're pretty much out of business.
4:56 AM
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You wish troll. And if you think this is a "business" for Gryphen, I feel sorry for you. He's doing it to expose a lying fraud because he loves this country like the rest of us normal people.
This family is totally screwed up and lies at every opportunity, yes that's the Palin klan. Scammers, frauds, white trash is the Palin middle name.
ReplyDeleteFact: Sarah Palin did not give birth to Trig
ReplyDeleteProve me wrong Sarah. Its easy. Just show us some DNA test results. Why do you refuse to prove Trig is your son as you claim unless you're hiding something?
Think of the Walmart picture in 08. Taken in Sept no?
ReplyDeleteI think Levi and his writers are just borderline retarded.
ReplyDeleteI see the bots are over voting on the cnn page trying to make a Palin endorsement worth something. They are doing the same thing they did on dwts.
ReplyDeleteWow, dealing with the Palins means dealing with a never-ending series of questions.
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That typically happens when you don't know people personally.
Okay let's put the "Levi's dad impregnated Bristol" story to rest.
ReplyDeleteThere is NO evidence to support such a stupid theory, and it makes the commenters who refer to it sound crazy.
Levi and his father remain close, and in fact Keith is still friendly with Todd. There is no drama between Keith and the Palin family.
And by the way Keith still lives in Wasilla, and always has.
I actually met him at Sadie's graduation.
Let's try to stay focused on the facts shall we?
Yes, this certainly paints Levi in a bad light.
ReplyDelete@5:01 AM
ReplyDeleteHi Bristol! Welcome back! Its nice to see you commenting here everyday and giving IM extra hits and page views. Thanks for helping Gryphen! Quick question though: Why did you let Sarah steal your first born son "Trig"? Isn't that "weird"? Hmmmm. Also did you and Sarah share the empathy belly? Or did you use different ones?
Except in the people mag shoot that summer (in June) Bristol had a FLAT belly.
ReplyDeleteGryphen, WHY, then in 07 and early 08, did Todd despise Levi yet he's STILL friendly with Keith?
ReplyDeleteHUHHHH
I saw Sarah cry on election night when she was begging to be allowed to give her own concession speech. It was quite pathetic. They literally had to close the curtain and shut off the lights to prevent her from getting on stage. That was a joyous occasion to see her crying. One of my favorite Palin moments. I can't wait to see it again when she's led away in handcuffs. Cry baby, cry! Your tears only make us stronger! Muhahaha
ReplyDeleteIs there a possibility that Levi was told different dates, lies, etc. because he is easily duped, and he made a better dad figure than the person who actually got Bristol pregnant, i.e. relative.
ReplyDeleteThe party line about Audrey shutting down is that "The Real McCain" blogger figured out who she is and threatened her and her husband in ways that caused her to stop blogging. Perhaps Morgan can speak more to this, but it's my impression that the subject of Audrey's final post--Bristol's pregnancy with Tripp--was coincidence.
ReplyDeleteThe other Morgan at PalinPicsForTruth did say she shut down because of threats after her post about Bristol's body at the RNC. But that could be how long it took Bots to ID her & get pictures of her home to say "We know who you are and we know where you live," rather than because of the particular topic she was doing.
Yes, G. I always thought Levi's contradictions were deliberate. I think they were meant to give a coded message to people who are already suspicious.
ReplyDeleteI think he had more of a "deer in the headlights' look when he did interviews. He seemed to always be trying to watch his words and a few times looked like he was trying not to slip up.
Why? He might have stuff on somebody and he's been warned. Or, someone in his family has stuff on them, and he's protecting them?
Someone should offer Levi a couple of million to sell the truth without Tank and the attorney present. The only problem with this is that Palin may have more trumped up charges regarding his family so he can't go there.
ReplyDelete5:11AM = Bristroll.
ReplyDeleteClue is bristol is "content". We know that's not true. She never has been. She's a miserable depressed person who hates herself. Fact.
Whoa, Todd and Keith are still on good terms?
ReplyDeleteUm, can we say chasm much? The Johnstons are a strange family.
My guess is that the book was first screened or partially written by Palins attorneys.
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Because that makes sense, ESPECIALLY knowing Bristol used it as a target at the shooting range last week.
Damn, Joe really takes to the MSM and their complicitness int he Palin fiasco. Joe wields a pen the way some might wields a scalpel, I'd hate to be on the other side of his 'pen'.
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Before a final farewell to Sarah, a comment about mainstream media hypocrisy, dishonesty and pretentiousness
MAINSTREAM MEDIA: SMUG, SMUGGER AND SMUGGEST…while the real stories unfold outside their cloistered havens
...In The Daily Beast yesterday, Howie wrote, in regard to why Sarah Palin was permitted to soar so high for so long:
“We in the news business were her enablers, broadcasting her tweets, following her Facebooking, chasing after her aimless bus tours…What explains such behavior? Palin is box office. She drives traffic and ratings.”
Thank you, Howie.
You call yourself a whore more plainly than I would have dared to do.
http://www.joemcginniss.net/before-a-final-farewell-to-sarah-a-comment-about-mainstream-media-hypocrisy-dishonesty-and-pretentiousness/Joe%20McGinniss
THE ROGUE will be number 10 on The New York Times Best-Seller list this Sunday.
Even better, it’s number 7 on the e-book list.
Best of all, New York Times Book Review editors have selected it as an “Editor’s Choice,” a distinction reserved for “Recent Books of Particular Interest.”
http://www.joemcginniss.net/the-rogue-debuts-as-10-on-nytimes-bestseller-list-7-on-e-book-list-and-its-an-editors-choice/Joe%20McGinniss
But why would Levi put the part in about the month long fluid leak? I mean, he distorted other parts of the book, but NONE of his interviewers questioned at least THAT?
ReplyDeleteI am starting to doubt anyone of tam actually read it or have bad reading comprehension. A person who doesn't follow this tale would have at least caught the weird contradictions within the book.
I wish Azure Ghost would do a photo mash of Sarah according to The Daily Show take down last night. At the end of the clip, he stated that Sarah's letter from her PAC two weeks before dropping out was similar to the email scams from Nigeria requesting funds from the Nigerian banker or sheik requesting your funds for their blah, blah. I can't recall the exact words, but it was a perfect description of what Palin did when her PAC sent that letter to dupe her supporters.
ReplyDeleteSo you think Tripp looks like a small baby at birth yet a big baby in Feb and a bigger baby in May???? Huh now?
ReplyDeleteYou think Sarah switched babies for the campaign, despite the same nose, lips, eyes, HAIR and face shape.
Methinks the reason this hasnt caught on is because you sound nuts.
You know what I just can't figure out? How could the authors of this book NOT notice the inconsistencies?
ReplyDeleteBecause they too are deranged. Did you read it? They obviously can't write or organized a book either.
Well Gryphen, Levi needs to be confronted on the facts. Why not you? What has this family done , that you hold them in such esteem?
ReplyDeleteSomeone else mentioned Sadie's prom outfit.
More appropriate for the bar scene than a prom.
Is Levi's book in the bargain bin yet?
Well, we now have a picture of Bristol from Feb 2008. Does that add anything?
ReplyDeletePutting Bristol in that dress on the RNC stage had to be the most strangely-dressed young woman in history. It was tight, showed a stomach, huge caricature-like chest, and no one seemed a bit perturbed by it.
ReplyDeleteIt's almost as if Sarah was trying to punish her daughter by stuffing her in that dress just to humiliate her. And, it's also troubling that a mother wouldn't have enough sense to see that the dress would raise suspicion?
I wonder what Levi thought of that get-up back then. Most boyfriends would make some opinion on how his girlfriend appeared on national tv. Didn't he find it odd how "stuffed" she looked? Especially her bust?
I wouldn't read anything into the Leno I was pregnant and couldnt go to prom line. It's easier to say THAT when the country knows you were pregnant around that time than say I wasn't attending school.
ReplyDeleteHi Sarah, Welcome Back!
ReplyDeleteQuick question, Where's Trigs Birth Certificate?
Check out Laura Novak's latest blog post -- VERY INTERESTING!!
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Normally I don't comment about the Palin kids, whom I hope go to school and live their own lives, and cease to participate in the one filled with the lies and deceptions of their mother; when it all comes crashing down the public shame will NOT have been worth the $.
ReplyDeleteBut honestly I have to comment about this-- Bristol's 'pregnant' bust at the convention looks SO ridiculously padded & unnatural. RIDICULOUSLY--like her boobs are having the baby!!
We're not the only ones who have noticed.
I feel very sorry for those kids and they way they continue to be used.
Check out Laura Novak's latest blog post -- VERY INTERESTING!!
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Not rocket science getting that password. Judging by the haggard look on Palin's face lately someone already has.
Brisket seems to have been pregnant at age 16 and at age 17....
ReplyDeleteIMO Levi is trying to "protect" Briskets reputation, hard to do for a trashy slut.
Lying causes one lie after the other to be told, hard to keep track. But basically we have a generational family of slutty women having baby after baby and not caring for any of the resulting children.
Anon559, I posted a transcription of Jon Stewart's grifter takedown & Nigerian prince analogy on an earlier thread. Here's the link and the exact wording. Stewart completely ROCKED this one!!!
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Oh, Jon Stewart nailed Palin's con to the wall!!!
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-october-6-2011/indecision-2012---take-the-money-and-don-t-run
Check it out at about 4:20...
Stewart, of SarahPAC benefitting her & her family... "The only way that the little scheme would be dishonorable or shady is if Palin had known all along what her decision was, yet continued to dangle her indecision as a lure, to unsuspecting donors. But how are you gonna prove that? You'd have to find someone close to the operation, perhaps too naive to realize she has inadvertently spilled the beans on, let's say, June 28th..."
Cut to Fox's Brian Kilmeade: "Do you get the sense that your mom has not made up her mind yet, or do you think she knows and hasn't told us?
Bristol: "Y'know, she definitely knows, u, we've talked about it before, but, um, some things just need to stay in the family."
Stewart, after a long, delicious pause... "See this kinda takes it out of the self-involved category and puts it into Nigerian prince territory."
Seems like Palin's new brand is coming into sharp focus! Bahahahahaha!
"I don't know if you heard but Palin isn't running.
ReplyDeleteSo you're pretty much out of business."
@4:56 AM
Yet, we (including you) are still here!
Your new paid troll "$arah Palin isn't running, you're out of business," talking points aren't working.
She may not be running, but $arah Palin is still a PUBLIC FIGURE, and she her family refuse to GO AWAY. They are still fair game.
Game on.
Gryphen, it's fine to be so defensive about the notion that Keith Johnston might have been involved with any Palin pregnancy, but honestly it's not that crazy an idea given all the conflicting information that continually flies around about these people.
ReplyDeleteA few years ago, people kept saying over and over that Bristol could not possibly have had a child with Down Syndrome (though statistically speaking young women do fall into risk groups for that), and yet now it seems like everyone is simply assuming that Bristol carried the baby, as the likely scenario.
People were trying to figure out why Trig looks so darn much like Levi, also, as well as the Palins. For me, anything has been possible, this whole time.
For all we know, the truth about these many pregnancy dates/stories will end up being a lot stranger than we think, and will end up involving people beyond Levi and Bristol. Not saying for sure, but it isn't hard to imagine that some things are at work here beyond Levi and Bristol and their on and off again relationship.
There used to be quite a bit of talk about Bristol's other romances. There was also talk about how the various pregnancies must have been so shameful that Sarah and Todd felt they must step in. And not just "my teenage daughter got knocked up by her boyfriend" shameful.
Like I said, anything is possible.
Or, it could all end up being rather mundane but Sarah over-reacted and over-reached in her panic about her career.
I don't think anything we speculate about here makes us sound "crazy".
We are dealing with the Palins, remember.
So was this the barnburner you said it would be ("Levi still lying")? Or is the barnburner still coming??
ReplyDeleteRead Laura Novak's post today, makes you go wtf about the babies and probably this very post you are writing about here. I smell something, yeah something about those palin babies.
ReplyDeleteThe answer to your question is simple Gryphen but with much detail.
ReplyDelete1) like it or not, he has the stages of Stockholm Syndrome, though he was never held hostaged, he none-the-less holds the following, "they essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness". He has mentioned all the threats coming from Todd, and how Bristol and him, feared what Sara would say about the pregnancy, but nothing came of it. Also, the "child abuse", he witnessed the Palin children undergo. This follows the fact: "wherein hostages express empathy and have positive feelings towards their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them." You see that the Palinbots are presently in denial, and are still defending her after, psychologically being captive for 3years by Sara. There is an article at huffington post today, where Elizabeth Husslebut is arguing/ defending Sara's decision, even after being ignored by Sara. It is a form of denialing the truth about the ruthless acts of an individual, or the actual hurt they are suffering or experiencing.
Secondly: what you have to see, is the fact that if Levi does not ride the coattails of Sara, he would have found himself becoming that "redneck who does not want children", he wrote about himself; I believe in facebook. He declared he had the evidence, or knowledge of things that would destroy Sara, but did not exposed them. What would happen if he had. He was not going to bite the hand that feeds him. Unfortunately, he did not know that Sara was coming out with the "not running decision", and thusly, the demise of Sara's political standing, from her own doing. He was not counting on this, and unfortunately, has destroyed his only chance of ever being relevent again. He chose not to bring her down, his book is out, and he is know useless, unless he created contacts with other Celebrities . His glory days are over, whether Sara is active or not. He could have been a hero in this saga, instead he turned against those that could have helped him: you, Kathy Griffin, etc.
Finally, these circumstancse fall fall under the fact that he was a young ignorant adolescent, and a legal team that thought they could make money out of "holding a threat" above Sara's head. No one will care any longer about Levi...and Bristol's celebrity status will also demise, for Sara can no longer be a political menace: meaning, she is useless to do the bitting for the money makers...Yea she is a dangerous person still because she has the ignorant masses to manipulate, but, the crooks want a politician to manipulate a la Bush, Bachmann, etc
My speculations derive from my 20 yrs experience dealing with psychosomatic disorders, and Masters degree in Special Education. I worked in the Chowchilla Women's Facility (Prison) in California.
Once upon a time there was a theory. Everything revolved around the earth and moved in circles. Later ... to account for observations that did not fall on a circle, they added cycloids, little arcs on the circumference of the circle. Later ... to account for observations that did not lie on the circle or cycloids, they added epicycloids, little arcs on the cycloids. This went on and on. Astronomers became increasingly frustrated.
ReplyDeleteThen one day a new astronomer came up with a new theory. With the new theory all the observations started to fit ... on an ellipse.
"What people write in their "memoirs" is their choice. That's all I can say.
ReplyDeleteLevi wanted us to believe he had the perfect relationship.
Levi wanted us to believe Bristol was always the only girl for him.
Levi wanted us to believe he was a serious teenage boy who never did anything remotely controversial or typical of teenagers.
Levi wanted us to believe that he was Benjamin Braddock, when in reality and his past interviews, that is pretty farfetched and ridiculous."
@5:18 AM
Yeah, just like Bri$tol wanted us to believe she was a perfect little darling, and a straight-A student (yeah, right) before big, bad Levi got her drunk, and dragged her into a tent by her hair, and raped her.
Nice try.
Gryphen,
ReplyDeleteThis is old territory you're rehashing with this post. I thought you said you had something new and interesting coming out. When will that be?
Oh, and when is Fred's book coming out?
And what about the juicy Shailey Tripp details that you promised us?
I'm with Anony @4:47 - cut Levi some slack. I think he's protecting his mother, sister as well as himself and any possibility of being able to see his kid/s.
ReplyDeleteGryphen, I sure hope you can divulge the "Trig was Tripp before he was Trig" story.
4:5 you silly little troll, as long as Sarah is yapping we'll never be out of business. Sarah started the game, just because she quit doesn't mean the game is over!
ReplyDeleteFrom Laura's blog, discussing the Palin's Social Security file: "I discovered that the Palin family file (Sarah,Todd, all 5 kids, and Bristol’s son Tripp) is locked with an alert in place. This means that the file is password-protected and if someone tries to break the password an alert will be generated up the chain of command. If you get caught, you get fired.
ReplyDelete"In my experience, having a file locked is a rare occurrence. A few exceptions would be the President of the United States and his extended family. For FBI and CIA field officers and some other high-ranking federal workers, the locks are in place to protect the families.
"I do not live in AK so I cannot speak in absolutes, but where I live, only the Governor and the head of DSHS can order a file locked on the state’s system."
B said...
ReplyDeleteLevi's date for the photo is consistent with Bristol's comment that she didn't go to her prom because she was pregnant. Perhaps they actually had some script they were both reading from.
Levi, why lie? What's the Palin mafia's threat? If just seeing Tripp, a family court can fix that for you.
4:45 AM
...................How would being 2 1/2 mos pregnant prevent her from going to the prom? I think what prevented her from going is that she didn't have a date.
Most people don't even announce to others (unless they were intending to get pregnant) that they are 2 1/2 months pregnant, so how would the school know about the pregnancy?
From the family photo with the blue sweat shirt - it seems that Sarah and Bristol are both able to hide their pregnancies well when they want to.
5:01 a.m. said: " I think her due date was likely in Dec sometime. Bristol was confident enough in April to tell her friends and Wasilla people that she was pregnant. To have a Jan baby, on time, that baby would be CONCEIVED in April. If conceived in April, there's no way the mother would know she was pregnant in April. "
ReplyDeleteI HAD a baby on 12/27, was due 12/31. Conception was mid-April. My memory is that an average pregnancy is 38 weeks long. People say 40 but that includes the 2 weeks between a last period and conception. A FIRST baby is usually a week longer.
So I think that what you have written is "immature" because it doesn't match up with what other "peeps" experience but the "lovely and natural" Bristol sure looked "weird" in that grey dress.
Does anyone remember when one of the Morlock girls (I think April) blurted out to her mother "at least I'm not pregnant like Bristol Palin is"? Wasn't that sometime in 2007?
ReplyDeleteMaybe it's not a grand conspiracy, Jesse. Maybe Levi is just a dumb kid with a hazy recollection of dates like most of us.
ReplyDelete"Because that makes sense, ESPECIALLY knowing Bristol used it as a target at the shooting range last week."
ReplyDelete@5:55 AM
Right. Was she taking target "lessons" from $arah? How many times did she miss?
No this is not my BIG post about Levi's book, that got pushed back after Sarah made her announcement the other day.
ReplyDeleteI am not in charge of Fred's book so I cannot say definitively when we will have new information. As I mentioned before my research impacted the publication.
As for Shailey's information, I helped her mother retrieve her belongings, but do not know how things are going on that end right now. The best thing for all of you who are wondering to do would be to check with Shailey at her blog.
I also want to mention, because I left it out of my post, that the other thing that has always bothered me is that Levi has NEVER talked about what was going on with Bristol's clothing at the RNC with his family. They ALL noticed it, but nobody seems to have brought it up in conversation.
BTW Levi thought that Bristol looked pregnant during DWTS too. Just so you know.
Whoa, Todd and Keith are still on good terms?
ReplyDeleteUm, can we say chasm much? The Johnstons are a strange family.
5:51 AM
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"Chasm" - I don't think that word means what you think it means... LOL
The Palins are the strange ones. Bizarre, dysfunctional and disturbed. Yep that's the Palins. Not close. Not strong. No roots. Sorry to break it to ya. Just the facts here.
I truly think that Trig was a last minute replacement for Brisket's first baby ruffles, Ruffles obviously suffered from Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and the Franklin Graham came up with a replacement. Could there be a better replacement than a DS child? The DS diagnoses makes sure that Trig's predominate features will be his DS features, thus ensuring that NO ONE would recognize the child they gave up for adoption.
ReplyDeleteBrisket, does it ever bother you that you threw away your first baby? What happened to Ruffles?
This is why I don't think the deceit and lies in the book are intentional. There are too many and random ones at that.
ReplyDeleteI mean, cmon G, this boy has said:
I never seen Sarah cry
and
I ve seen Sarah cry a couple times
.................
Maybe he meant that he never saw her cry when it would have been appropriate for her to cry? Like when Track gets sent to a warzone? Like when her daughter gives birth?
But he has seen her cry a couple of strange times, like when there wasn't a bendy straw in the house for her diet soda, or when she was asked to give back the clothes from the campaign trail.
She admitted it means that she isn't going away -- so neither are we.
ReplyDeleteWhat kind of a Jew is this Israelicojones 2? I have never seen such babbling craziness before. The south (The Southern Strategy you all) is full of Jews who are conservative republicans because of greed. It stunned me when I moved here from NY and entered the Jewish Community(although I stay on the periphery) . Some of it is voting their pocketbook and some of it is racist( very), but this cojones person is totally nuts!Does he/she not know Sarah expects him to burn in hell forever?
ReplyDeleteI'm anonymous on this one Jesse.
IIRC, wasn't that gray dress one of Meghan McCain's? That might explain the odd fit. It would be hard to get
ReplyDeleteBristol fitted by the professionals at the Minneapolis Neiman Marcus if Bristol was hiding pillows or wrapping her gut or whatever she was doing to manage the perception of her due date.
I am missing something. When was her "first" baby supposed to have been born??? The one before Trig. Is Levi mixing the two dates and pregnancies.
ReplyDelete"So you think Tripp looks like a small baby at birth yet a big baby in Feb and a bigger baby in May???? Huh now?
ReplyDeleteYou think Sarah switched babies for the campaign, despite the same nose, lips, eyes, HAIR and face shape.
Methinks the reason this hasnt caught on is because you sound nuts."
@6:00 AM
But we don't know when Tripp (or Trig) was really born. The stories, and timelines keep changing. That was an easy question. Please try harder.
Methinks the reason $arah Palin hasn't caught on is because she IS nuts.
Why would Levi's dates about the pregnancy be messed up?
ReplyDelete1. Most guys don't think much about this.
2. 18 year old guys don't think about this.
Bristol and Levi seemed to be off and on. Perhaps Bristol told Levi she was pregnant before she was, just to hang on to him - and then kept trying to get pregnant.
Or maybe she was pregnant by someone else, and adjusted the date to implicate Levi.
He isn't too bright - and he would have believed Bristol's story. So if she was pregnant for 11 months, so be it.
My mother's husband believed that I was born 9 weeks late, because that was the only way the math worked for him to be the father.
Oh this is rich!
ReplyDeletehttp://twitpic.com/6vugjf
Teen aged boys don't notice much of anything. (Well, we do know what they notice, namely the latest model car, snow mobile, boat, airplane and breasts). They do not notice if their girl is missing her period, and they do not remember when her mother's kid would have been born.
ReplyDeleteIf the story about Bristol wanting a baby when she heard that her mother was pregnant, she couldn't have even started the process until after the first week in March. Going off the pill means that the body has to restart itself, taking a couple more weeks. That would fit Levi's other story that the baby wasn't due until the end of January.
Women can count 28 days in a cycle. They know how many days it was since their last period. (Ovulation is 14 after the onset of the period). Women can count on nine fingers.
Either Levi is finally telling the truth or he can't remember what he was told to say. The one thing that he said that's important is that Sarah was leaking for a whole month before she was supposed to give birth. No doctor would have allowed a 43 year old woman, with a history of 2 miscarriages, carrying a DS baby, leaking amniotic fluid to travel by air. She would have been in the hospital or at home, in bed resting. Sarah took 22 trips by plane during that period of time.
Un-f'ing-believable!
6:35 AM, as much as I do agree with your ideas you really need to edit what you write bitting should be bidding, there is no such word as denialing, and "celebrity status will also demise", what does that even mean?
ReplyDeleteBristol told Jay that she couldn't go to her prom because she was pregnant. At two months, she could have fit in a pretty dress and danced. I don't think that Bristol and Mercede went to the same school. The story isn't true, any more than any of the other Palin stories are true. It is something conveniently written for Bristol's abstinence speeches.
ReplyDeleteAll I can say is Sarah is a narcissistic SICK and selfish nutjob AND abuser to put Bristol through this. I don't like how Bristol acts, but there is a reason for it. It's becoming clearer that Sarah developed a convoluted web of lies to cover up Bristols pregnancies.
ReplyDeleteSarah is a rotten mother! A 15 or 16 year old who WANTS to get pregnant needs help. It might happen in Alaska and elsewhere but there are also millions of teens who wouldn't dream of screwing up their lives like this.
What a sad sick story this is turning out to be.
@6:01 AM
ReplyDelete"Well Gryphen, Levi needs to be confronted on the facts."
(He has been confronted on the facts, dummy. What the hell do you think Gryphen's posts about Levi's book have been about? Idiot.)
"Why not you? What has this family done , that you hold them in such esteem?"
(Gryphen has been confronted on the facts, too. But, he has made a very compelling case. Unlike $arah Palin. Where's Trig's birth certificate?)
"What has this family done , that you hold them in such esteem?"
(This was a "joke" question, right? You have been trolling this blog long enought to know why.)
"Someone else mentioned Sadie's prom outfit.
More appropriate for the bar scene than a prom."
(Wasn't Bri$tol IN a bar recently, arguing with a drunk? I also recall a pregnant Bri$tol bumping and grinding in slutty costumes she could barely fit into on 'DWTS.)
"Is Levi's book in the bargain bin yet?"
It's probably right next to Bri$tol's.
On the other hand, Joe McGinnis' book 'The Rogue' will be on the NYT best-seller list on Sunday, and his book was selected as an: “Editor’s Choice,” a distinction reserved for “Recent Books of Particular Interest.”
Have a nice day!
B said... "The other Morgan at PalinPicsForTruth did say she shut down because of threats after her post about Bristol's body at the RNC. But that could be how long it took Bots to ID her & get pictures of her home to say "We know who you are and we know where you live," rather than because of the particular topic she was doing."
ReplyDeleteYour fist scenario is the more likely, IMO.
Morgan Kaiser meant well, but her "analysis" was - I'm sorry to say - pure bunk. When I pointed out that her "proof" of alteration of the "gusty" photos by way of JPEG ghosting was based on a fundamental misunderstanding of that technique, she simply deleted that section of her website without any retraction or comment. (We've subsequently learned those images were actually not altered, other than lowering the resolution after uploading.)
I asked her to provide examples of what her other "PROOF!!!!OMG!!!" photoshop manipulations would do to known-to-be genuine, unaltered images (the scientific idea of "controls") rather than simply asking us to take her word that normal images would "never" produce the results she was seeing. I also asked that she provide details of the procedures she was using so others could independently reproduce her results.
She never responded but shortly thereafter claimed threats to her safety and shut down her blog.
If she was truly threatened by the Palins or their supporters, I am very sorry that happened to her, especially since - her breathless announcements of nails in the coffin to the contrary - it was absolutely needless being that her psuedo-science was proof of nothing. If she was getting too close to something big, it was pure blind luck.
Remember the photo of Bristol in February 2009 at one of the races, she still looks huge for delivering two months earlier.
ReplyDeleteWhat was the new information you talked about a few days ago?
I woke up with a bad headache this morning, and now I know why.
ReplyDeleteThanks for bringing up DWTS again, Gryphen. All folks need to do is go over those video tapes and carefully scrutinize Bristol's silhouette at certain moments in those dances.
ReplyDeleteIn general, they were incredibly skilled at pulling her midriff in with undergarments, designing costumes that confused the eye, and making the most of positions and choreography that they hoped would stick in people's minds (her lying flat, for example). Whenever she and Mark stood to receive judges' feedback, the camera intentionally kept her midriff out of the frame - or she had her hands/arms crossed in front of herself.
The whole weight gain thing was the kicker, of course.
That trip to Haiti was pushing her public appearances as far as they could possibly get away with and then, poof! she disappeared for 2-3 months, I think it was.
These people are so unbelievably audacious, and just count on the public being amazingly stupid.
I wonder if this possible younger child is one of the reasons Sarah got spooked about running...
I don't know why Levi is lying for the Palins. Clearly he knows a lot even if he doesn't know everything.
ReplyDeleteIt's a shame he's allowed the Palins to dictate his life. I don't know what he's signed or what they have over him but Levi isn't going to be a part of Tripp's life. Ever. And neither will Mercedes or Sherry.
The best he could have done was to find a good lawyer (or 3!) and just tell the truth. Rally round his mother and his sister and just tell the truth. All of them. The truth would have set them free.
But no....he chose to lie for the Palins. And so the mess continues unabated.
Anonymous 6:32 - Brilliant analogy there. Cycles and epicycles indeed... when maybe what we really need is a shift of perspective.
ReplyDeleteGryphen... ask Mercede if Levi has a copy of Tripp's birth certificate.
ReplyDeleteIf he is the father he is able to get a copy from the state.
Poll:
ReplyDeleteWhy did Bristol skip the prom?
A. She was two months pregnant.
B. She was postpartum.
C. Church-based home school correspondence programs don't hold proms
D. Dress code - no hoodies. :-(
For the record Bristol did not skip her prom due to pregnancy. She skipped it because she was not attending school at that time. She had transferred to West High in Anchorage sometime after Christmas break, and seemed to be attending in February, but then simply disappeared from school altogether.
ReplyDeleteAs for the birth certificate, all I can say definitively is that neither Sherry nor Mercede have ever seen one.
There's a very interesting post by a guest contributor on Laura Novak's blog today regarding a lock on the Palin family's SocSec file. It's not a file that most people are privy to view but her file is said to be locked even from those authorized. Files of other governors were checked and they are not locked. Apparently the strangling tentacles of the Palin monster have a long reach. Sure wouldn't want any confirmation of multiple secret birthdates in that clan huh? Gryphen et al must have spooked $P big time for her to take such a drastic measure to insure that her scam would not be revealed by government authorities.
ReplyDeleteI think it's just too hard for Levi to keep track of all the lies. I've always thought there was blackmail involved. If Levi and Bristol are Trig's parents, and Trig was born very prematurely, with multiple disabilities, and a huge bill to pay, it makes sense that Sarah would step in and snatch that child for her own, especially given the political capital he represents. And Bristol and Levi would be helpless, because they knew they could not handle the care of such a child.
ReplyDeleteAs for the line about Sarah leaking fluid for a month - that could just be a lie Sarah told the family, perhaps as an excuse to not do things, or get them to do things for her.
"Bristol! You have to get me a crunchwrap supreme! I can't get it myself, I'm leaking fluid again!"
We know she lied about the leaking amniotic fluid to Chuck. It's the lie she gave him to cover for her returning from Texas so abruptly and not staying to the end of the gathering. She hated the fact that he brought it up to a reporter and it then became part of the narrative. So I have no doubt that the 'leaking fluid' lie was a frequent one for Sarah in the last month of her 'pregnancy.'
I agree with anon 7:10
ReplyDeleteIf a teenage boy knew about leaking amniotic fluid then everyone would have known including the doctor. It is totally against practice standards for SP not to be in hospital. Therefore this is a lie. Why did he lie? Maybe someone thought it sounded good. However it think it is more likely that BP was leaking (during her pregnancy with Trig) and hospitalized. It would explain her absence for weeks supposedly with mono.
Annonymous 4:56 AM As long as Sarah has a platform as the stage she will be on the next couple nights spewing her lies about our great Potus, and how great she is nobody is out of business, We will be out of business when Sarah no longer can spew her hate and lies.
ReplyDelete@ 7:21, that's all fine, but I do have to wonder why the need to raise doubts about her efforts or credibility/ethics/agenda... Perhaps I am misunderstanding something.
ReplyDeleteThis is the kind of thread participation that presents itself as one thing but may very well be something else, imo. Very subtle, but insidiously damaging and/or intended to intimidate on some level.
Or it's simply competitive. That doesn't make me feel better; it makes me feel worse, actually.
If we have all moved on to the idea of the pregnancy prosthesis instead of computer manipulation in the case of the Gusty photos, why the need to rake the earlier discussion over the coals? In the name of "accuracy"?
Or to insert the idea of mistaken speculation on the part of bloggers, rather?
Just don't get it. (Just read it over again, and I am afraid it is probably simple inter-blogger competition. I find this sort of thing wearing, but that's just me.)
Anon @5:30, your point about the scrubbing is really at the heart of all of this. I was lamenting the same thing, and wondering if there might not be folks out there who possess copies of these photos and might also be ready to share them again. Maybe not, as these would probably be friends and relatives of the Palins. Those photos still exist, unless the scary scrubber minions set a match to the originals, as well.
(Don't know about all of you, but scanning photos and keeping track of the hard copies are two very different activities, in my household. I am doing a bunch right now which will be re-distributed to their original owners, so they will be scattered to the wind very soon.)
The truth will out, we will get there. And Sarah - make no mistake about it, we will not rest until we are done with this. Perhaps you want to come clean first and hope the American public will understand? It will save all of us a lot of trouble. If we thought you could be trusted to truly retreat and find some other life, we would stop. But you can't, and so we won't.
GhostbusterTX: I too remember the demise of Photoshop Morgan much the way you do. I looked at the same things she was commenting on and did not find any of her claims re photo-fakery to be substantiated. Nor were the dots in the carpet off. So, like you, I think we can say Ps Morgan was a blind alley. --Amy1
ReplyDeleteGryphen said...
ReplyDelete"For the record Bristol did not skip her prom due to pregnancy. "
OK, fine but why did she say she did?
I've said this before--the Palins must have something BIG on Levi for him to continue covering up for them.
ReplyDeleteDrugs, child visitation, child support (perhaps the ALL the costs of Trig's care, if he is the father of that child), threats to incarcerate his mother? Who knows, but it's something big and he wants to avoid it big time.
I think Bristol and Sarah are really mutants with the power to morph their bodies into whatever shape is most needed at the time.
ReplyDeleteI"m a long running IM reader with great respect for Gryphen, Laura, Bree, et al. I have something to add to the community of Trig Truthers, and invite you to check out my blog The Palin Place:
ReplyDeletehttp://thepalinplace.blogspot.com/2011/10/sarah-pact-has-levi-made-deal-with.html
Today's topic "Sarah Pact: Did Levi make a deal with the Quitter."
We need all the good minds we can get to eventually crack this open. I would appreciate anyone adding new ideas, or reminding us of forgotten clues. Please stop by.
Anon @ 4:56 a.m.
ReplyDeleteAnd yet, you still trolled his site today to tell him so.
You'll be back for more, cause Sarah doesn't sit down and shut up - which is the only remedy to this piling on thing we got going.
5:01 said: "Question is, why would the RNC peeps put Bristol in that gray dress ... Bristol was confident enough in April... "
ReplyDeleteSounds like Bristol's still wondering why she had to wear that dress. The "GAHHHHH" and "cmon G" were funny touches but a troll voice is hard to cover up and most aren't bright enough. Also, FYI, only peeps who AREN'T confident need to have "their friends" tell peeps they are. It's a dead give-away. (I did get a kick out of the "peeps". It reminded me of the "convo" term used recently. Someone does a lot of texting and tweeting.)
Trying to figure out the convolutions and machinations of the Palins is like trying
ReplyDeleteto solve a Rubik's cube.
Or more appropriately, a Rube Cube.
I don't know if you heard but Palin isn't running.
ReplyDeleteSo you're pretty much out of business.
4:56 AM
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Sorry, nice try. If you read Gryphen's earlier post, "Where Do We Go From Here" you'd know it's not over, not by a mile. If the Grifting Grizzly had called it quits a while ago, and clearly stated she was not going to run for president, and if she had stopped fleecing her gullible supporters by teasing them out of their money with the lie that MAYBE, perhaps she would run--when it was clear that she knew her decision, way back in June (this is right out of Bristol's mouth BTW)--maybe she could have just slunk away. But no, she strung it out way too long. She couldn't resist just one more con. So, I guess that just whets the appetite for all her deceptions to be revealed. Too bad, Sarah. Should have quit while you were ahead.
And yeah, this is for Audrey and Bree. Vindication!
Levi also contradicted the book in his interviews. He said he got to the hospital about 4 hours after Trig was born. The book said minutes. The Vanity Fair article is closest to the book. Levi is anything but specific in his language so I understand if his ghostwriters misinterpreted what he told them. How could his team let him mess up with inconsistencies within the book?
ReplyDeleteMore blogger scrootinee screeches the proud Valley Trash!
ReplyDeleteWe are proud of our mysterious fecundity! Strong also too.
We are going to Applebee's tonight!
Todd needs sponsers!
Brisdull needs riding lessons!
I can't help but think that he has been lying for the Palins for so long that he doesn't even remember what really happened anymore. Or how to filter the truth form the lies because they are so jumbled to together in his brain.
ReplyDeleteI think he lied to his mother and Sadie multiple times, all because that is what Bristol's family wanted. In fact the whole "don't talk to your sister" probably had nothing to do with her still being friends with his ex-girlfriend and more to do with keeping her away so she wouldn't discover that everything they had been told was a lie. He did their bidding over and over again until they no longer wanted him around.
Now, even though he has been virtually shut out, there is something hanging over his head. I am thinking that is some how ties to his ability to see one or both of his sons and it is dangled like a carrot to keep him from spilling too much, but allowing him to spill just enough to make it look justified for their treatment of him.
The whole thing is just sick!!
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteWhoa, Todd and Keith are still on good terms?
Um, can we say chasm much? The Johnstons are a strange family.
5:51 AM
I wonder if Glen Rice or Brad Hanson and Tawd are on good terms?
Excellent commentary over on the Frum Forum:
ReplyDelete“There have always been grifters in politics. What was important in her story was the revelation of conservatism’s lack of antibodies against somebody with the faults and failings of Sarah Palin.”
"Conservatism has had a long and ignominious history of destructive, self-righteous phonies. These characters have been welcomed into the inner sanctum because they served the interests of the Republican elite.
McCain brought in Palin and most of the Republican leadership instinctively defended her to the hilt and slandered any detractor (or questioner) with all manner of lies, insults, and rhetorical filth.
McCain and his cronies knew Palin was unqualified in every respect. They cared not a whit. “Screw the country, screw the American people, screw our allies, and screw everyone else — we want to win because by winning we will become more powerful and more affluent!!”
That is what Republicans stood for then and it is what they stand for now. It lies with individuals making callous decisions to deceive, mislead, and betray."
This is John McCain's legacy 2008-2011.
Anon 5:09 said:
ReplyDeleteAs usual, more questions than answers. Why did Palin's Deceptions abruptly end after the Cornerstone posts?
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This, to me, is one of the most fascinating aspects of the whole babygate story. I hope one day the story of what happened to Audrey and Bree will be revealed. I remember being stunned and even a little creeped out when these sites suddenly went dark . I realized I was watching a cover-up, or a blackmail, or intimidating threats in real time.
Some people say that the sidebar to the Sarah Palin baby hoax is that the mainstream media didn't do their job. That is true. I have always thought that an equally fascinating story relating to Babygate would be: What exactly were the threats directed at the Palin Deceptions and Bree Palin blogs. Why did they stop blogging and other anti-Palin blogs continue? What happened? THAT would make a fascinating story were it ever to be told!
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ReplyDelete"The Palin story was never about Palin. This is what every one of her defenders and every conservative who did not immediately denounce her choice as VP candidate misses.
The story was and remains about the rank corruption at the head of the McCain campaign for the presidency and all its enablers.
The man’s first “presidential decision”, and probably the most important, was a stunt. It was a stunt of monumental moment and potentially far-reaching consequence. An old man with a tortured body and a weak heart deliberately selects a woman of no consequence, of no intelligence, of minimal accomplishment and full of deep personal liability, so that he could steal a moment away from Obama’s afterconvention glow, so as to enliven his morbid campaign, if not his libido.
And the establishment went along. And as she spewed poison – let’s not forget “palling around with terroritsts” – and as he campaign decended into a farce, he old goat stood there, stunned, uncomprehending, and yet supportive to the end, and the establishment stood there with him, and egged them on.
If Bush selected Vader, at least give him credit for recognising organizational talent and ideological discipline, even if at the service of rank evil. If the other Bush selected the blond potatoe, at least his own heart was ticking and he was – as he remains – at the prime of his life. And Reagan, for all his shortcomings, had Bush as VP.
No, Palin is not the story; McCain and the Republican Party own this one, and will forever own this one, as one of the darkest, saddest, most cynical moments in modern electioneering since Watergate.
However, Palin's lipstick will be forever a smear on the GOP's mug, let us not forget it.
One good question that ought to be easy to answer is: how old is Bristol?
ReplyDeleteIf she is the same age as Mercede, they would have been classmates in school. Sophomore year is 10th grade.
Cut-off date in Montana was earlier than California, which was Oct 15th. Bristol shares my birthday. By moving south, I went directly into first grade rather than waste a year in kindergarten. Alaska may be on the same calendar as Montana.
It is probable that she is 16 in this picture.
The DMV and the schools would have her date of birth. However, it ought to be simple to find some classmates (Wasilla being tiny). I wouldn't ask Mercede or Levi or anybody involved in this mess... however, there were other students yammering on numerous facebook pages... you might even find something unscrubbed to verify oral reports.
As to being pregnant as an excuse? She doesn't look overly pregnant and her DWTS appearance didn't demonstrate an inability to wear a dress. However, DWTS, also too, showed us a young female who has absolutely no sense of rhythm, no feel for music. If months of professional tutoring couldn't get her to pick up her feet, at 16 she would have been an unhappy lump in a corner chair... and the thought of several hours of chaparoned dancing excruciating. Besides, if that picture is taken in Levi's bedroom, they probably had better ideas for a way to spend the evening. ;^)
Love the picture of Bristol and Mercede.
ReplyDeleteBristol was pretty, had a nice smile, didn't she.
Levi is lying to protect himself. His family lies to protect Levi from something. He knows everything. When was that church fire, and the Miller fire?
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ReplyDeleteI don't know if you heard but Palin isn't running.
So you're pretty much out of business.
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She might not be running for office but you can bet your ass that she'll be "running around the country" still trying to affect National Policy, so no, this blog, and others, are not "out of business".
Until Palin sits down and shuts up these blogs will be more engaged than ever.
Gryphen, are you gonna give us a review of The Undefeated now that it's out on DVD?
ReplyDeleteI ordered it, just because I was one of the few people here who thought she would run, and I wanted to see what it entailed, because I had a feeling it would help her if she ran (people love propaganda).
I'm 20 minutes into it, and I'm literally LOL'ing. I would love to hear all your thoughts.
They completely skip her run and loss for Lt. Governor. Like, they don't even mention it. And then to make her seem noble & not blindly ambitious, they act like she just decided to run for Governor out of nowhere.
It's such bullshit.
GRYPHEN, YOU HAVE TO DO A WRITE-UP/REVIEW OF IT!!!!
Also, Willow gives the BEST eye-roll while Palin announces that she's gonna run for Governor. You have to see it. It's hilarious and she's so blatant with it.
ReplyDeleteMy take is that Levi spent most of his time stoned,and remembers only what he was told happened.
ReplyDeleteSo, how old is Tripp?
ReplyDeleteThis was probably filmed on Feb 16,2009 and aired on Feb 18, 2009. Look at size, movements, head control. Listen to his vocalizations. What do you think? From his claimed birthdate of 12/27/2008 he should be 7 weeks and 3 days on 2/16/2009.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDhtiJreaKk
I think Levi is ignorant and irresponsible and the lyingest liar who ever lied, but I don't see a discrepancy between his captioning an April picture "Bristol two months pregnant" and a story that on March 5 she said she SHOULD get pregnant. Bristol could have been a few weeks pregnant on March 5 and not known it yet-- she's not the sharpest tool in the shed, either.
ReplyDeleteI thought that if Levi lied, we'd hear the real story from you, Gryphen-- still hoping for that!
Check out Laura's blog from today!
ReplyDeletehttp://www.lauranovakauthor.com/1/post/2011/10/the-case-of-the-locked-file-a-guest-post-by-cyn.html
Might be another clue there.
LOL @ ano @4:07: 11 months... that would make her an elephant! (Elephants gestate for 11 months!)
ReplyDeleteThere is one photo that Morgan analyzed and it is one of those "nails." It is a photo of Sarah disguising her so-called pregnancy with a pink-and-red scarf. The high contrast that Morgan used to accentuate highlights and shadows showed that Palin had a perfectly flat abdomen. Talk about your tight abs. It was also a photo taken about 6 weeks before Sarah claimed to have delivered a 6 pound baby.
ReplyDeleteWe might have believed her if she carried the same way in her other pregnancies. She did not. The photo of Sarah, pregnant with Track, show Palin in a red shirt, as big as a house.
As for Levi, he really needs to be in court and have paternity tests done, under court supervision for Trig, Tripp and the mysterious godson. What's his name anyway, Tango? Two-step? Twist? I'm trying to think of dance terms since he is probably the DWTS baby. If Bristol knew anything about anything, she could name him Tommy Tune, a famous dancer and choreographer. Sorry, he name is Third, because Bristol came in 3rd at DWTS, or as Sarah says, 2nd runner up. It's almost like winning.
Somehow, I get the impression that Levi is talking about at least two different pregnancies, but cannot divulge it. He mixes up the timelines and the years. If we check out every little detail he says, and then put them into an excel program, and then switch around the years between the details, I am pretty sure we would get an accurate account.
ReplyDeleteThink of his book as a puzzle/code, and try to fix the puzzle/break the code!
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ReplyDeleteB said... "The other Morgan at PalinPicsForTruth did say she shut down because of threats after her post about Bristol's body at the RNC. But that could be how long it took Bots to ID her & get pictures of her home to say "We know who you are and we know where you live," rather than because of the particular topic she was doing."
Your fist scenario is the more likely, IMO.
Morgan Kaiser meant well, but her "analysis" was - I'm sorry to say - pure bunk. When I pointed out that her "proof" of alteration of the "gusty" photos by way of JPEG ghosting was based on a fundamental misunderstanding of that technique, she simply deleted that section of her website without any retraction or comment. (We've subsequently learned those images were actually not altered, other than lowering the resolution after uploading.)
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Morgan Kaiser was a person known as Liz Adkiss who had many times tried to infiltrate the palin deception team. Every single time she tried, she was found out, because, like the palins, and most people, she could not control how she said things and how she wrote and what stories about her background.
I have an estranged brother-in-law that lies like that, it's very easy to spot.
Liz probably lurks around here too. Trust me, you can't trust anything Morgan kaiser says, other than, she was found out by those that know!
Levi is stupid about dates
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The people controlling Levi are stupid about dates.
But all of them believe we are too stupid to read a book and shout "you lie" when the dates don't make sense.
These liars will continue to manipulate the political process in this country until they are stopped. "What did John McCain know and when did he know it?" is the real question. Don't hold back, G.
Anon@ 5:09
ReplyDeleteIt's my belief that the person who got to Audrey had a lot in common with Sarah Palin. They were both schemers out to profit from this story.
Now that all their schemes backfired, they are both facing the same fate they've feared all along - obscurity.
It's a rather ironic bond they share, but a fitting one.
Levi is one REALLY stupid mofo, with no legal representation. He has idiots for ghost writers.
ReplyDeleteAnd he is a worse LIAR than the Tundra Turd, if that's even possible.
Who cares why he did it? The fact is he DID do it, and should receive NO sympathy from any of us.
I am missing something.
ReplyDelete"Morgan Kaiser" or "Liz Adkiss" is someone who tried to say the Gusty photos were digitally manipulated to make Sarah look pregnant?
So she was "on our side" but simply incorrect? She dropped from view and didn't respond to criticism of her theories or methodology?
And this means she cannot be trusted, also because she supposedly tried to "infiltrate" the Palin's Deceptions team?
Uh.....there are a number of known (as much as anyone can be known in this context) individuals who were active with that group, people who I wouldn't trust to this very day. And I am not talking about Audrey.
What is this about? What are some people afraid?
All is not as it seems, if you ask me.
Gryphen, the trolling activity gets ever more complex. I see there is continued effort, from within our little world, to try and dismiss and discredit MA, also - and now this other person. I find this all rather odd. If MA weren't threatening, I don't think anyone would be bothering to say anything about her, whether that be one of us, or people pretending to be us with an entirely different purpose behind the scenes.
Call me paranoid, I don't care. Sarah Palin had scary intelligence/computer people scrubbing the web on her (and the GOP's) behalf. You can't tell me there aren't still folks lurking about who don't want the truth about her to get out, ever. That truth would make a lot of people look pretty, pretty bad - to quote Larry David ;-).
Levi and Bristol were young and scared. Both could have been easily swayed by Sarah's game plan. They could have agreed to what Sarah proposed just to lessen their mind-blowing responsibilities. I think Sarah's still pulling their strings and that's why both Levi's and Bristol's books have lies. The ol' payola is likely part of their dysfunction along with intimidation, deceit, and nasty threats.
ReplyDeleteOh, to be free of the lie monger.
5:01 said: "Question is, why would the RNC peeps put Bristol in that gray dress ... Bristol was confident enough in April... "
ReplyDeleteSounds like Bristol's still wondering why she had to wear that dress. The "GAHHHHH" and "cmon G" were funny touches but a troll voice is hard to cover up and most aren't bright enough. Also, FYI, only peeps who AREN'T confident need to have "their friends" tell peeps they are. It's a dead give-away. (I did get a kick out of the "peeps". It reminded me of the "convo" term used recently. Someone does a lot of texting and tweeting.)
Dense as a brick, as someone put it, either he's tripping on his fibs or he just can't keep anything straight in his head, neither of which says anything good about him. If he doesn't go back to school or get training for a real job soon, he's in for a real rough ride through life. Being young and good looking will only get you so far and some of those places one would rather not end up.
ReplyDeleteWhat does his rational sister think of all this?
M from MD
I think all of the pictures in this post feature a post-partum Bristol, following the birth of two children; first Trig, then Tripp.
ReplyDeleteIn the picture of Mercede and Bristol, Bristol has much the same "look" age-wise as she does in the pictures from Sarah's kitchen (these feature Levi, Sarah, Mercede, and baby Tripp). I think this photo, from Mercede's prom night, was taken about a week after Tripp was born.
If you want to figure out when the babies were born, use the photos of them that we CAN date conclusively...Trig at the RNC, and Tripp in the interview with Matt Lauer. In both of those photos, the babies look about one year old. Subtract one year from the date of the photo, and you get approximate birthdates of:
Trig - August 2007
Tripp - April 2008
Is Levi certain that he was actually present for any of Ms. Bris' multiple impregnations? Not unusual for a lovely young lady to wander and then need a willing, unsuspecting "baby daddy"...Just sayin'
ReplyDeleteJOes book came out, then she threatened a lawsuit. then she quit her pretend run for POTUS. g'night!
ReplyDeleteGood try, 5:01 "It's Weird" troll. Why are you so obsessed with whether or not Levi saw Sarah cry?
ReplyDeleteBesides, I thought you were out of here--remember, "toodles"? Then again, if you go, who are we going to explain all those weird and odd stories to that make you confused?
From March 5th until April 25th is seven weeks plus a couple of days. Easy to refer to that as 2 months. Bristol probably didn't know she was pregnant on March 5th. Just because she said that she was on birth control pills, doesn't mean she took them regularly. Rounding off 7 weeks or 7 weeks + a couple of days, doesn't make Levi a liar when he says she was 2 months pregnant. (But I'm not saying he has all his facts correct).
ReplyDeleteI think Tripp was Bristol's second baby and that the first baby (Ruffles) was perhaps premature and/or had health issues and Sarah put that child up for adoption - by either forcing the kids into it or just by doing it. Then I think Sarah adopted Trig or simply took Trig from Bristol. And that the reason Bristol flew into a rage when she heard the announcement that Sarah was pregnant, she knew Mama was going to do whatever Mama wanted to do. That for Bristol to speak up about it at that time, would have been outing her mother - "ruining" her mother's career and humiliating Sarah.
Easy to think that Sarah would be saying "I'm doing this for you". Bristol was 16 years old - Levi was 17. They were no match for the likes of Sarah Palin. Mean as Todd is, he doesn't seem to be a match for Sarah. Just my opinion..
What happened to this?
ReplyDelete"Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck to headline ‘Defending the Republic’ Event in October"
"...Sarah Palin will again descend on the lower 48 for an Oct. 7 event in Missouri. Palin will share the stage with former Fox News host Glenn Beck at “Defending the Republic.” The event is sponsored by local talk radio station 97.1 FM, which also broadcasts Beck’s radio show. It will be held at the Family Arena in St. Charles, Mo."
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/08/sarah-palin-glenn-beck-to-headline-defending-the-republic-event-in-october/
Hey, Gryph - I don't want to cause trouble but I don't think a pregnancy suit explains Bristol's bustline or overall shape at the RPC. I don't see a similarity between Bristol at the RNC and Sarah in the Gusty or Dallas photos.
ReplyDeleteBristol had a belly on the way to the convention and a fake pregnancy suit wouldn't work under a t-shirt.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/49830475@N04/6221457698/in/photostream
'5:01 said: "Question is, why would the RNC peeps put Bristol in that gray dress ... Bristol was confident enough in April... "
ReplyDeleteThe dress came with the fake belly, they probably have a fake dress for each month. bustol could have wore a jacket to cover the stretch marks on her dress. Yet fat bustol is all in our faces with her "family values." Smiling and waving like she's a rock star ~ahem~ a moral sin in her mother's eyes and ~ahem~ her "church" 's~ahem~ eye.
Poor Levi, I think he is just confused trying to keep his lies straight. I am sure he was paid off to keep certain things secret, but he is too dumb to remember which things he is supposed to say.
ReplyDeleteIsn't he trying to keep the stories of 2 or 3 babies straight? I know I am completely lost, I can't remember which came first Trig or Tripp, who had what baby when, who was pregnant for how long on what date, etc. Levi is trying to remember the story but he just can't do it. He is muddying the waters which is probably what Palin wants. Where is the chart for all these babies??
I have been following this site since August 30, 2008. I just can't follow these multiple babies and doubt that Levi can either.
trevjr
I thought Levi sounded a bit like there was some residual emotion left over for Bristol at the time of the writing.
ReplyDeleteI could be wrong, but that's the feeling I got.
Another thing...most people have no idea what a parent, or someone who actually thinks they are a parent would go through or do to have an absent child back in their life.
Why is it hard to believe Levi's balls are in the same bag as Todd's? (and apparently half of Wasilla's)
I'm beginning to think he was caught in the web of 2 black widow spiders!
ReplyDeleteThe thing that zoo picture always makes me think of is how the grifter and her family scammed money from everyone. Is there any way they paid for all of those expensive sweatshirts?
ReplyDeleteIt's like the old saying - that I just made up - "you dont have to be poor to behave like poor white trash."
ReplyDeleteto I am missing something.
ReplyDelete"Morgan Kaiser" or "Liz Adkiss" is someone who tried to say the Gusty photos were digitally manipulated to make Sarah look pregnant?
So she was "on our side" but simply incorrect? She dropped from view and didn't respond to criticism of her theories or methodology?
And this means she cannot be trusted, also because she supposedly tried to "infiltrate" the Palin's Deceptions team?
Uh.....there are a number of known (as much as anyone can be known in this context) individuals who were active with that group, people who I wouldn't trust to this very day. And I am not talking about Audrey.
What is this about? What are some people afraid?
All is not as it seems, if you ask me.
Gryphen, the trolling activity gets ever more complex. I see there is continued effort, from within our little world, to try and dismiss and discredit MA, also - and now this other person. I find this all rather odd. If MA weren't threatening, I don't think anyone would be bothering to say anything about her, whether that be one of us, or people pretending to be us with an entirely different purpose behind the scenes.
Call me paranoid, I don't care. Sarah Palin had scary intelligence/computer people scrubbing the web on her (and the GOP's) behalf. You can't tell me there aren't still folks lurking about who don't want the truth about her to get out, ever. That truth would make a lot of people look pretty, pretty bad - to quote Larry David ;-).
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Look, I'm telling you, cuz *I* know. Liz, tried to join the PD team. There were things that she claimed to have inside info about and when pressed, she flaked. Then when the group found out who she really was and her background, they ousted her. She tried to make a new name for herself, using *MY* work as her own, claiming to be "Morgan Kaiser". When she was discovered again to be Liz, she shut down.
And do not tell me anything about people you can trust inside 'palin deception team' uhhh cuz i know the people and I know who *I* can trust and i guarantee it's a very very SMALL circle.
This "other person" being me, is because I have kept myself hidden for 3 yrs and normally do not participate in giving away any inside info, but I wont have someone come on here trying to trash me cuz I told the truth about Liz/Morgan. She was outed cuz she was a lying psycho.
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ReplyDelete"I'm the one," Bristol said, "who should be having a baby. Not Sarah."
Bristol looked at me. "Let's get pregnant."
So revolting. Why would a teenager think such a thing? Why was Bristol jealous of her 40-something mother's sexuality and fertility? What a weird family. I guess it is a good thing Bristol was too young(?) when Piper was born, or else she'd have had a competition baby then.
Why in the world did the RNC let Bristol out on that stage in that hideous dress? Extremely unflattering. Sarah's handlers surely had time to put something decent on that girl. I think the story that it was Megan McCains dress is very very farfetched. I'm certain that there was some staffer that could have run to any store and bought something more suitable, even if it was short notice. For goodness sakes, they could have thrown a sweater on her to help disguise the bolster boobs.
ReplyDelete5:09 Who are the 2 schemers..Sarah and ??
ReplyDeleteAnon 10:48..Boy do I agree with you, seems there are more and more people coming on here to muddy the waters, so to speak.
ReplyDeleteAccording to Bristol's book: SHE picked the outfit to wear. She said I chose a simple dress with cap sleeves...That was specifically said to address the accusations that Sarah or someone else put her in that dress.
ReplyDeleteShe keeps claiming that she had NO maternity clothes and yet, even tho the RNC by 9/3 knew that she was pregnant, never thought to buy her maternity clothes, even though they had the foresight to buy Levi versace socks....go figure!!!
Here's a brand new theory. Maybe Levi is spreading around these inconsistencies ON PURPOSE! That way people will know he's a flake and will stop asking him things.
ReplyDeleteActually, I think that he's got a combination of 1) being naturally forgetful about things like what months stuff happened -- I've got the same problem myself. and 2) of COURSE he's in on the scam. So trying to remember to forget what he's already forgotten and to remember what he's supposed to remember, which he also forgets, amounts to a few nice tries, but no dice.
He's Trig's daddy. There's so much proof -- the photo of him in the hospital with the baby and in the Palin kitchen with his father and Trig are especially telling. And remember how he kissed Trig at the convention -- that's not just a nice boyfriend -- that's a Papa! And now in his book he tells us that Trig is special to him. Good grief.
Man the palin women morph awful quickly!!! like witches or something.
ReplyDeleteBristol was padded at the convention for TWO reasons....
ReplyDeleteStress and crying babies make women who just gave birth LEAK...
She was padded (and heavily ...did they think no one would notice????)
to look further along than she was... to make the Trig Birthers shut up.
Martha again,
ReplyDeleteYOU
ARE
SOOOOO
CORRECT!!!!!!
He has been told to stick to the time line, then things change and when you go back to recount things, your mind changes the fake dates to real dates and vice versa.
Im guessing there is a contract sealed in the Palin family vault/dungeon that explains why he is so "forgetful" about the truth!
Lest we forget that Sarah is a ruthless self-absorbed narcissist and would coerce even a young child to be entangled in her web of lies if it was to benefit her and her unrealistic ambitions....
Shelly
Shellyamberstone@yahoo.com
Did they not think the world would notice that huge uni-boob?????
ReplyDeleteThese people have gotten away with so much over the years, they are just gettin' sloppy..
I always felt Levi has some kind of learning disorder (not being judgemental, I have one myself) combined with some monerary need to cover for Palins (maybe an off the record cut in child support for Tripp, or holding Trig over his head if that's the case) I'm thinking they cut him a break on his payments in exchange for apologizing to Sarah for what he said etc etc etc.
ReplyDeleteWhen I watched him read from his own book on LOD, it seemed like he was trying to read ahead trying not to get something wrong.
Whatever it is, I don't judge his sister, mother or father for his behavior. There's a point where you cut your losses and stand on your own word. Levi's old enough to do it, the question still reamains, what do they hold over him to keep the lie going?
With every new post about his book, I blame him most because he picked bad counsel. Any lawyer worth their salt would never allow their client to leave themselves to the wolves. Should have taken Grif's advice, kid.
Can't wait for the barnburner!
@ 2:42, no need to reprint comments wholesale when you respond to them. Wastes space, dontcha know.
ReplyDeleteYou've kept yourself hidden for 3 years? That's quite a feat. And you feel safe enough to come out of hiding at this particular moment (under a pseudonym)? That's really saying something. Must have felt a pressing need. Guess you just had to set the record straight on the "other Morgan"(?), in case she showed up and we all started quoting her and soaking up her every word. You just wanted to be sure that the person's comment about her was taken in its proper perspective (as in, don't worry about anyone having chased the other Morgan off, because she was a lying schemer anyway). Fair enough, I suppose.
It is beyond fascinating that you say you were part of Audrey's team - of three people. Just fascinating; gets me wondering about all kinds of things given what we know about that whole scenario.
As I said, all is not as it seems. Can't be sure about quite a few familiar voices, to this day.
Last but not least, timing is everything and there are no accidents.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. @ 2:42 so YOU are the real Morgan? I thought you had a little blog of your own at one point. I remember your posts at PD.
ReplyDeleteWell why didn't you simply say that the person tied to that photo scenario was a fake and that she assumed your name, in the first place? If you are concerned that she may appear again and people may be duped by her or believe she is you, that's all you had to say.
Does seem like your PD team had run-ins with a number of characters, some of whom actively blog about Sarah Palin to this day (not talking about Gryphen or Regina). And I am sorry, but there are a number who are not trustworthy in the slightest.
The fact that you feel you can't talk about that whole PD thing shows just how petrified those who know anything at all about the Palins continue to be.
It's very sad.
@ 10:36, I think I know what you are getting at, and I agree. It was funny to read the half-hearted celebrations going on after she made it clear she didn't plan to run, 'cause let's face it if Sarah had run there'd be endless days and months more of Sarah Palin posts. Some kept insisting she'd run, because that's exactly how they hoped it would go since a Presidential candidate is of far more interest than whatever Sarah calls herself now. Her sales value has diminished significantly, let's say.
ReplyDelete(I am not talking about Gryphen here, as he knew full well our efforts to show the real Sarah Palin are not based on whether she ran or not, and of course he firmly believed she wouldn't.)
That whole Audrey thing was very troubling, as were later episodes, elsewhere. Maybe some day we'll know the complete story.
Could the pregnancy with the due date of Jan. actually be Trig, but he was born in Dec? And the pregnancy with Tripp he was born in Feb? or late Jan, hence not seeing him until Feb? I'm thoroughly confused, but one thing is for certain. Something isn't right about all of this. It stinks to high heaven
ReplyDelete@4:45 I see your point, but we don't allow sophs to attend the prom unless their date is a junior or senior. So, this was Sadie's soph year, and Bristol's junior year. She and Levi are in the same grade- Sadie is younger. Do I have that right?
ReplyDeleteWhat's the account of Bristol's whereabouts her soph year? Which is when she'd have been pregnant with Trig.
Ok, look, I'm only going to explain this one last time -- I can guarantee 100000% that Gryphen can vouch for who I am and what I know, especially since I email him on a regular basis.
ReplyDeleteI never said I was the other Morgan. What I said was that Liz aka Morgan Kaiser, tried to take some of my photo work and claim it as her own (as many people have done since I stopped working the baby story) after she was kicked out of PD and then tried to become "Morgan Kaiser". We found her out and told her that we knew that she was Liz and she shut down herself because she didn't want people to find out her real background which was discovered by one of the PD people. I dont feel the need to expose her real background, because it serves no purpose, if you want to find it out, by all means, do so.
And yes, I've stayed hidden for 3 yrs, because up until a couple months ago I was long out of the baby story business.
If you think that only 3 people were part of Audrey's team, then you REALLY don't know what you're talking about and since I was one of the first people to join PD, I think I would know better than you.
And lastly, the only reason I said something was because someone tried to make the connection that because PD went down and Audrey stopped blogging and the same thing happened to Morgan Kaiser, that Morgan must have been on to something, all I was doing was explaining that the 2 were not related because Morgan K was found to be Liz and not credible. That is all. So keep arguing with me if you like, but at some point, I would expect Gryphen and/or the other Morgan to step in and set you all straight if you choose not to believe me.
@6:36 PM - I would say that what you think you know about the PD team is wrong, as it was comprised of around ten people at any one time. What exactly was the point of your comment, anyway?
ReplyDelete@6:44 There WAS no real Morgan Kaiser. I completely disagree with @2:42 as far as who is trustworthy from the old days, but @2:42 did a ton of analysis, and is also absolutely correct as to the information given above. The person who started the MK website was a total head case who got everyone to believe she had been scared into stopping her blog. HEAD CASE. And if you ask me, if you look around here for a while, I wouldn't be surprised if she had shown up again.
I liked Levi's book. I didn't mind that his book is about him - his love of hunting,fishing and hockey.
ReplyDeleteI find him to be credible. I think he really cared about Bristol, and believes what she tells him.
Maybe Bristol isn't Trigg's mother, or perhaps she is, but Levi isn't the father. Perhaps during the time Bristol was living away from Levi - she got pregnant by someone else and that baby was premature. Maybe when she was upset about Sarah announcing her pregnancy and told Levi "let's have a baby", he didn't know about a premie baby in the hospital that Sarah would later claim she gave birth to.
I think Levi is a really sweet kid, and I didn't mind all of his stories (including when his father thought there was a dead body under the water that ended up being an inflatable sex doll with a wig), or his hunting stories (even though I am vegan).
He helped me to understand who he is. I wish him the best.
Bristoll sure looks like her grandpa Chuckie in that photo. No wonder she went for the chin job.
ReplyDeleteIt is disgusting Sarah Palin did not make sure Bristol dressed in a more flattering outfit that evening. WHat was she thinking? And Trig looked like the Adam’s family baby.