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| "I am not going to come out and say 'I did not have sexually suggestive contact with those women' but it is inferred by my spokesman's carefully worded non-denial." |
Late last night his spokesman issued this response:
Inside the Beltway media attacks Cain (Nice title. Not overly defensive or anything.)
Fearing the message of Herman Cain who is shaking up the political landscape in Washington, Inside the Beltway media have begun to launch unsubstantiated personal attacks on Cain.
Dredging up thinly sourced allegations stemming from Mr. Cain’s tenure as the Chief Executive Officer at the National Restaurant Association in the 1990s, political trade press are now casting aspersions on his character and spreading rumors that never stood up to the facts.
Since Washington establishment critics haven't had much luck in attacking Mr. Cain's ideas to fix a bad economy and create jobs, they are trying to attack him in any way they can.
Sadly, we’ve seen this movie played out before – a prominent Conservative targeted by liberals simply because they disagree with his politics.
Mr. Cain -- and all Americans, deserve better.
Okay I read it twice, but perhaps I missed it, where is the denial that Cain every engaged in any "sexually suggestive behaviors?" And is it just me, or this statement a little vague, and carefully worded?
It appears to me that the Cain campaign is relying on the legal agreements those women signed to keep them quiet, while they just wait for this story to blow over.
Sorry folks, as far as I am concerned there is a STILL a very high likelihood that Herman Cain is "Guilty, Guilty, Guilty!"
If these women to be supeonaed (sp?) by a court of law, would they then be legally allowed to tell their story? I'm sure a women's rights or advocacy group or sexual harassment support group would love to have this brought into court.
ReplyDelete6 am on the East Coast, turned on Morning Joe, this is the top story. Jonathan Martin from Politico was on, and they are not backing down, at all. Martin says they saw the documents , spoke with current and former NRA employees , and know who the women are. They darted contacting the Cain campaign on Oct 20 for their response to the article they were going to run, and did so for 10 days before the story broke.
ReplyDeleteMartin is tight with Rove...Cain was just swift boated by his own party. Quick and dirty.
Cain is done.
This doesn't sound too out of line for the man, since he declared that Clarence Thomas was his "idol".
ReplyDeleteHeard Cain make that statement while explaining his views on Face the Nation yesterday!
Girls? Unless they were underage, which opens a new can of worms, it's women, please.
ReplyDelete"targeted by liberals"?? I would think it is more likely the conservatives who are after Cain. Look at what they do to the President! The Romney camp has probably been sitting on the information, waiting to see if he is any threat to them. Is it possible they warned Palin about what they have on HER?
ReplyDeleteIs there something about the type of man who puts himself out there to be elected or appointed to an office that necessarily carries along with it the character trait of misogyny?
ReplyDeleteUsing "inferred" when you mean "implied" makes me slightly crazy but then so does using any modifier of "unique" as is ubiquitous in the U.S.A.
Cain has never held ANY elected office, yet he thinks he can handle the job of President of the United States ?
ReplyDeleteNot to mention the fact, he's black, and no god-fearing 'rill merikun' is going to cast a vote for a black man, even if he is a Republican.
Sounds an awful lot like when Anthony Weiner was asked if those pix were of HIS dick.
ReplyDeleteUmmm, welllll, ahhhhh...
"Did Herb Cain harass them wimmin?"
Ummmm, wellll, ahhhhh...
It's a yes or no question - it doesn't require an essay for an answer. Did he do it?
"...press are now castin aspersions on his character and spreading rumors that never stood up to the facts..."
Yes or no?
Sounds a little too much like Clarence Thomas's and Clinton's denials. I smell a rat.
ReplyDeleteThe 'carefully worded' not-exactly-denial is a dead giveaway, and pretty funny, actually. Not the sexual harassment part, just the finely-edged almost truth, the politician's friend.
ReplyDeleteThe whole Republican race to be their nominee is going being fought out with people who are crazy and fact-free slanting their words to get the support and votes of the angry, unreasonable and narrow-minded. The whole season should be a hoot to watch the new and stupid ways Republicans can behave in public.
And the public's paying attention. All this inane and vicious stuff will no escape the notice of thinking and caring people of all parties. Bodes well for for Obama.
How does he know it's coming from liberals? The rest of the GOP is more likely. Politco isn't liberal. And Herb, hate to tell you, but it addresses your character. So maybe you didn't do it. Fine. But if you did, it is not presidential. Just sayin'.
ReplyDeleteAnd I just started giggling about something. I've noticed that "Herb" has caught on as our pet name for Cain. I had this sudden vision of his campaign manager calling him Herb.
Cue the McCain Truth Team tactics from the Sarah Palin Defense Squad handbook to labeling every critique frivolous and the media reporting it, lame.
ReplyDeleteInside the Beltway media attacks Palin.
Is Ziegler going to come to poor Cain's aid? Meg Stapleton? Cain is the iconic image of racial and sexual equality?
Is Cain going to say this is a high-tech lynching?
This is going to get interesting.
For a party that HATES victims, they sure cry it all the f'ing time.
POST: Sadly, we’ve seen this movie played out before – a prominent Conservative targeted by liberals simply because they disagree with his politics
ReplyDeleteWould this be when they attacked
Gary Hart, known conservative, or
John Edwards, known conservative or
Caroline Kennedy, or
hmm, who is I'm thinking of....
oh yea -
THe President, Bill Clinton,
while in office, who wasn't just gone after by the media, but set up by those wanting to get rid of him
I'm still trying to figure out what 'liberals' had to do with this and as I watched MorningJoe dissect the statement, they didn't even bother to question the allegation. Oh well, guess there are a few who consider Politico to be 'liberal'.
ReplyDeleteAs old and sick as Cain is, he better watch out for a certain tundra tart to come calling with a winking waving VP slot request. He's her kind of guy.
The whole Republican field is loopy...except for Huntsman, who is polling somewhere on the bottom. The Republican 'base' just doesn't like smart or sane...they, apparently love circus, though.
ReplyDeleteLast night Perry assured the GOP that he could handle Obama in a debate. Oh, lordie. I laughed for ten minutes, I just do want to see that.
Isn't it amazing how egotism obliterates honest self-awareness. Oh...but Sarah Palin showed us that ages ago....
I'm with you Uncle Gryphen!!!
ReplyDeleteHey Herb Cain, if you don't have a definitive answer to a question about harrassment, then you are freakin' guilty.
ReplyDeleteJust like our fave Grifter Granny $arah, guilty of
Nepotism (Todd running rampant in Gov office)
Bribery (Mat Maid)
Lying (too many to list, but the Trooper Wooten affair is near the top of the list
Theft (materials from the sports center)
Grifting (raking in millions from Pac while flying private jets, and then quitting on supporters)
Pig Ignorance (Hundreds of interviews displaying idiocy and word salad
Herb, you are toast, and we know a guilty guy when we see one.
Over and out
I think this matter needs to be researched further. Another Republican doing sexual misdeeds!
ReplyDeleteAre we surprised? I've never been a supporter of Cain - this just reinforces my lack of connectedness to him.
Let me just reiterate that Politico confirmed that 5 figure payouts were given to the women involved. Do you think non profit trade associations hand out tens of thousands of dollars and make the parties affected sign non disclosures for nothing ?
ReplyDeleteHad the repug radio on this am. Talking about what "they" were saying about Cain and also brought up Rubio. How "they" are scared and will say bad things. Waaa. Got the last laugh when a caller from my town no less corrected this radio host by pointing out Rubio did fabricate his family history and they were NOT Castro refugees!!
ReplyDelete"Sadly, we’ve seen this movie played out before – a prominent Conservative targeted by liberals simply because they disagree with his politics. "
ReplyDelete'Inside the Beltway' = LIBERALS????
The way I see it, this is most likely coming from the Rove camp, which definitely DOES NOT want Cain to be the party's nominee. I love the way some RWNJ's are blaming "libs" or "libbies," when it's quite obvious that the most immediate beneficary of Cain's fall from grace would be Romney. That's who the GOP establishment wants for the nominee. The president is just biding his time, waiting for the GOP's nomination to be concluded, and he has nothing to gain by smearing Cain. He has much more to gain by being patient and laying the groundwork for dealing with his potential presidential rival.
ReplyDeleteHey Herb! I just saw this. Care to comment? You really need the talking points better thought out to handle this one.
ReplyDelete" Aides’ Corporation May Have Illegally Gotten Cain Campaign Off The Ground"
tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/10/cain_aides_ran_wisconsin_corporation_that_may_have_illegally_gotten_his_campaign_off_the_ground.php
Long before Herman Cain chief of staff Mark Block was appearing in the most mocked campaign ad of the presidential campaign so far, he and deputy chief of staff Linda Hansen started a Wisconsin corporation that the Journal Sentinel reports illegally helped the GOP presidential candidate get his campaign off the ground.
Here is the link to the story that TPM references in their report on Herb's campaign finance discrepancies. It looks like Herb has a lot of explaining to do.
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ReplyDeletehttp://www.businessinsider.com/conservatives-rally-around-cain-after-harassment-report-2011-10
Jonathan Marting gave them more than enough time, distance, and respect as a journalist to make up some kind of plausnable non-excuse.
ReplyDeleteSeeing him on Morning Joe, he has done his due dilligence as a jounalist and interviewed the women, the NRA organization, and other's in their employ who witnessed and corroborated the story.
To call this a "high tech lynching" by "liberals" "inside the Beltway" is simply laughable.
Anthony Weiner was lynched by Andrew Britefart and the right wing extremeists. And lambasted for dragging it on.
The crypt keeper's daughter came to herbie the looooooooooove bug's defense, saying (paraphrasing from memory from the clip I saw" "What sexual harrassment? They weren't touched in any way- this is the lynching of a black conservative who I believe will be the next nominee to run against the (whatever derogitory spew she said) Obama Machine and win"
Sorry, it doesn't wash. Seeing him asked yes or no four times with the only reply being "have you ever been accused of sexual harrassment?"
Johnatan Martin is in Rove's corner and Rove wants herbie out asap.
So is Rove a Liberal in the beltway they're referring to?
Cain ain't able.
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..Another one bites the dust...
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6:22 AM is correct on every count:
ReplyDelete"Let me just reiterate that Politico confirmed that 5 figure payouts were given to the women involved. Do you think non profit trade associations hand out tens of thousands of dollars and make the parties affected sign non disclosures for nothing ?"
I totally 'get' why Clarence Thomas is Cain's hero. Thomas got away with these things, and more (tax evasion, anyone?), and just look at him now.
The lower level righties seem to have no clue that the Republican party is actually split into a 3-way race between the Bilderbergers (Perry), the Kochs (Cain), and Rove (Romney). I am guessing the Bushes, behind the scenes, are 'in' with Rove.
It is amazing (and admittedly hilarious) to witness this internecine warfare at the highest rightie levels.
Meanwhile, all 3 branches have plenty of moola to spend on their underlying agenda for looting America, not to mention their obvious theocratic battles (dominionism/Perry vs. even farther-right evangelicals/Cain vs, mormonism/Romney) – as their puppet candidates continue to self-destruct.
Anon @9:23 am
ReplyDelete"The lower level righties seem to have no clue that the Republican party is actually split into a 3-way race between the Bilderbergers (Perry), the Kochs (Cain), and Rove (Romney). I am guessing the Bushes, behind the scenes, are 'in' with Rove.
It is amazing (and admittedly hilarious) to witness this internecine warfare at the highest rightie levels."
Sometimes the media moves quickly. Already Cain has been asked about the campaign finance issue by... Fox News.
"I'm not aware of this report so my staff did not have time to go through it," Cain told Fox News. "We are going to look at it and see if there's any validity ... but at this point I didn't even know about this report until I saw it on your show."
www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/31/nonprofit-aid-for-cain-camp-reportedly-sparks-legal-concerns/
Hmmm. If Fox had to pick sides how would that work? Sux to be you today Herb.