As I am sure many of you are aware that the UC Davis pepper spraying incident has gone viral on the internet and has resulted in a firestorm of protests from people all around the world and the demand for the removal of UC Davis Chancellor Linda Katehi.
Here is the video just to bring you up to speed.
In response the University has suspended two of the officers involved:
Two campus police officers from the University of California, Davis, campus have been caught on video using pepper spray on Occupy protesters. The incident occurred on Friday and the video was posted on YouTube.
The university announced today that the two officers have been put on administration leave in light of the video.
UC Davis Chancellor Linda Katehi said in the statement: "I spoke with students this weekend, and I feel their outrage. I have also heard from an overwhelming number of students, faculty, staff and alumni from around the country. I am deeply saddened that this happened on our campus, and as chancellor, I take full responsibility for the incident.”
"However, I pledge to take the actions needed to ensure that this does not happen again," she said. "I feel very sorry for the harm our students were subjected to and I vow to work tirelessly to make the campus a more welcoming and safe place."
Katehi also went on to say that a task force consisting of faculty, students and staff will be chosen this week. She has set a 30 day deadline for the task force to report on the events surrounding the arrests, including communication between the police and the administration.
Apparently yesterday Chancellor Katehi held a press conference which resulted in a rather strange, and fascinating confrontation with students of UC Davis:
Katehi held a press conference on Saturday to address the incident. Students began to surround the building in protest and she reportedly refused to leave amid safety concerns.
Finally, the students cleared a path for her to exit. As she walked back to her car, surrounded by students, some began to ask her questions, which she mostly brushed off
"Chancellor, do you still feel threatened by the students?" someone asked.
She replied, "no" and a companion said that "we've asked for it to be a silent, respectful exit."
Words fail to describe this scene between the students and their Chancellor, so here let this video to give you a clearer idea.
I actually got a chill watching that.
So what do you think? Is the suspension of the two officers enough, or should the Chancellor also lose her job for ordering the removal of the students through force with little consideration for their safety?
And will these images be enough to FINALLY convince the police around the country that liberally firing pepper spray into the faces of non-violent Americans is NOT acceptable in this country?
Update: If you want to help see justice prevail, perhaps you would like to sign faculty member Nathan Brown's petition requesting that Chancellor Katehi resign.
They got one detail wrong: the students had cleared a path from the start. They had promised silence from the start... but Katehi was still too scared to come out until the students agreed to all sit down.
ReplyDeleteAnd yes, the video is really affecting.
Are the suspentions enough? No, but sometimes we have to take what we can get. As an old original hippy ( now a businesswoman) these small victories will win in the end. While, I personally< do not think 2 suspensions are enough, those 2 did w3in a vistory for the students utilizing their constitutional rights to protest.
ReplyDeleteA victory, however small, is still a victory!
Little Rabbit
Absolutely not enough.
ReplyDeleteThe Chancellor sent fot the police...the ultimate responsibility is hers.
Not only that...after those kids were pepper-sprayed ( at point blank range, THREE times), they were sick for hours and at keast one ( perhaps more) were hospitized.
NO ONE from the University contacted them, checked on them...or even communicated with their emergency contacts( i.e. their parents)!
At the press conference, there were a bunch of kids outside who had notbeen allowed in. The Chancellor made a huge deal about being aftraid of them...these peaceful protesters. Your wonderful video shows what happened when she finally did go out side.
Follow the money. Lobbying groups mobilising against the movement to the tune of $850k+. The monied interests are running scared, and that's where the marching orders originate.
ReplyDeleteThis is exactly what the protest is all about, that money should not buy this kind of power to be used against peaceful, constitutionally guaranteed, protest.
I also think this is just beginning, and will be all the more intense for the lateness of the hour.
I hope for the best while I fear the worst.
The fact that this happened in the so-called "bastion of freedom and liberty" of the world more than speaks to the unacceptability of this incident. Suspensions hardly comprise an acceptable show of remorse, nor remedy.
ReplyDeleteI cried when I saw the 8 minute video. First at the brutality heaped upon the peaceful line of students. Then I cried as the future took ownership and shamed those mother fucking brutalizing police off their campus. The human mic they pulled was truly a thing of beauty. Talk about seeing Democracy in action.
ReplyDeleteI again cried when I watched Katehi take that VERY deserved walk of shame. The only thing that would have made it more powerful would have been if each and every person stood and turned their backs to her as she passed. However, given the days events...the police in riot gear may have arrived had anyone moved.
I hope and pray that we are witnessing the death of apathy. I had a younger person text me today saying that for the first time, she felt like thing matter and that she is making a change.
Those protestors at UC Davis have decided they can not afford the apathy we have so cavalierly lived with for a decade plus. And rightly so, they are the ones who will began footing our apathetic bill.
she should be fired and the 2 keystone cops should not be on administrative leave, they should've been fired immediately.
ReplyDeleteRemember Kent State? That blood will forever be on their hands.
Every American should raise their voice in protest - this is not just about those college kids peacefully protesting. Every single person in this country has the right to protest regardless of their cause.
If I were their parents I'd be talking to an attorney and preparing to own that college. Disqusting.
If it is true that she ordered them to be removed by force, then she should lose her job.
ReplyDeleteHere is a very good and brief article on the Huffington Post calling for the president to stop being silent about what is happening. As he says, the right of Americans to peaceably protest is "democracy 101."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-kornbluth/obama-police-brutality_b_1102970.html
Oh, I forgot, as far as the police officers, no, suspending is not enough, but I think we need to be really clear that even though following orders is no excuse, we don't want those at the bottom to always take the fall. We need to get to the higher ups who are encouraging/allowing/ordering this.
ReplyDeleteI would have liked to have seen them turn their back on her as she walked by. THAT would have sent an even more specific message that the acts of brutality against the students are shameful.
ReplyDeletechange.org has an online petition you can sign calling for the removal of Chancellor Katehi.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.change.org/petitions/police-pepper-spray-peaceful-uc-davis-students-ask-chancellor-katehi-to-resign
NO, the campus police were totally over the top. The students did not deserve that treatment. UCDavis is not the USSR nor Itally under Mussalini. (sp?)
ReplyDeleteI think it's time for President Obama to speak out against the violence aimed at peaceful protesters. When you can't tell the difference between photos of Tahrir Square and Oakland, California things have gotten out of hand.
ReplyDeleteI think the chancellor needs a chance to do the right things. Chancellor Katehi should know brutal supression when she sees it. The important question is what does she intend to do about it. Does she see anything wrong with the actions of UC Davis police?
ReplyDeleteI haven't seen what happened at her alma mater in 1973 mentioned anywhere yet.
"Pisti Basile "Linda" Katehi-Tseregounis (born January 30, 1954) is a Greek-American engineer and university administrator.
Katehi was born in Athens and grew up on Salamis Island in Greece. She received a bachelor’s degree in electrical engineering from the National Technical University of Athens, Greece, in 1977. She came to the United States in 1979" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_P.B._Katehi
When did she begin attending National Technical University in Athens? Was she a student at the university or present for the events that happened in 1973? In any case she must have some opinion about them. Does she see any parallels to recent events at UC Davis?
"The most important event of NTUA's history is the Athens Polytechnic uprising on November 17, 1973, which was the first step to overthrow Greece's military dictatorship. In the 14, 15 and 16 of November 1973, the students were barricaded inside the institute, and started broadcasting a pirate radio transmission, calling the people of Athens to rebel. In the evening of November 17 however, a AMX-30 class military tank broke the main gate and charged inside, after receiving orders from the dictators. About 28 students were killed in the incident and the uprising ended. The junta however, was irreparably damaged by the popular outcry. The junta fell in 1974, after the Turkish invasion in Cyprus and since then, November 17 is celebrated as a day of freedom and democracy. All schools and universities of the country remain closed that day." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Technical_University_of_Athens
Some information on earlier events.
"Greece had been, since April 21, 1967, under the dictatorial rule of the military, a regime which abolished civil rights, dissolved political parties and exiled, imprisoned and tortured politicians and citizens based on their political beliefs."
"These actions eventually created anti-junta sentiments among students, such as Geology student Kostas Georgakis who committed suicide in 1970 in Genoa, Italy as an act of protest against the junta. With that exception, the first massive public action against the junta came from students on February 21, 1973.
On February 21, 1973 law students went on strike and barricaded themselves inside the buildings of the Law School of the university of Athens in the centre of Athens, demanding repeal of the law that imposed forceful drafting of "subversive youths", as 88 of their peers had been forcefully drafted. The police were ordered to intervene and many students were reportedly subjected to police brutality. The events at the Law School are often cited as the prelude to the Polytechnic uprising" http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athens_Polytechnic_uprising
Vidoe of these events is probably on YouTube, but I can't translate the captions to be sure.
Maybe some reporter will ask some questions about this.
Some sources indicate that an official investigation determined that there were no deaths at NTUA. Some sources also indicated that the officers at UC Davis were trapped by the students and sprayed them so they could escape.
Check out the open letter from UCD proff. for Chancellor's resignation!
ReplyDeleteIf you want to comment, click on the Pages-submit comment to the right of the title!
http://bicyclebarricade.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/open-letter-to-chancellor-linda-p-b-katehi/
WOW....just WOW! The silence gave me chills....I'm sure she felt EVERY stare and condemnation from those students!
ReplyDeleteI'm a mother to three girls...age's 10 and 13 and 20...I've taken them to a MESA event at UCDavis and last year my 13 year old went to UC Davis for a sponsored program called "Girl Inspired"...it was ALL middle school girls...teaching them to be EMPOWERED...my daughter said it was the best day she had...no boys...she said it was great to be able to talk and not feel like they were going to be made fun of by the boys....my daughter said she was now interested in going there for college....after this...husband and I have decided to steer her towards UC Santa Barbara...where my oldest daughter is currently attending...
Thank you for addressing this. I know some anonymous poster said about my comment on the Anne Hathaway at OWS post something like "no one gives a shit what you think" to me. I'm glad people in fact do give a shit about peaceful students and OWS protesters. And let's not forget our Constitutional Rights and Civil Rights. We are the 99% and have power when we give a shit about what is happening in this country.
ReplyDeleteThe admin leave for the two cops is not enough, the head of the Campus police should resign and I'm writing a letter to the head of Davis and the whole UC system, that as an alum, CA resident and taxpayer, what they are doing to the UC System is not good for long term benefit of the state, which has educated millions who have gone on to create great things, win Nobel prizes in Physics, Chemistry, Medicine, Literature and Economics. Our Peace Prize winner in Chief, the Constitutional Law Professor from Harvard/Chicago needs to stand with the 99% in protection of the rights of the people who voted him into office.
nswfm
It seems that when young people start a protest they are always treated harshly just like in the 1960's when they were against the Viet Nam war. However, the movement is gaining momentum and a very diverse population. I'm a grandmother and I totally support the protesters because I'm one of the 99%.
ReplyDeleteI just want them to do what they would have done if this abuse was aimed at the Tea Party. FOX would probably go into Def-Con Limbaugh mode, 24/7. And Hannity would consider this the "Orgasmatron." Sarah would wrap her bus in pictures of the abuse, grab a retarded kid ("oh, any and all of them"), and hit the Hate Highway in search of coinage.
ReplyDeleteI saw this video earlier and it's chilling. I'm SO, SO proud of the OCCUPY protesters!! Bless them to infinity for their courage and Heart.
Eye of Newt said they needed a bath. If only he could wash off the hubris . . . and the stupid, but that won't happen. He isn't even worthy to be an American. Or a Human. Just ask his ex who got her pink slip when she was in the hospital with cancer. Makes Mel Gibson look like 'Husband of the Year.'
Peace, All. OBAMA Landslide in 2012!! Help us, Obi Wan Obama. You're our only hope . . .
The officers and anyone above them in the chain of command who OK'd the pepper spraying under the conditions quite clear in scores of videos and photos, should all be fired. Possibly prosecuted by the US DOJ. (Fat chance on that one, eh?)
ReplyDeleteThe University will be sued, and would be wise to settle soon (see Lundberg v. County of Humboldt aka the Pepper Spray Q-Tip Case or the Pepper Spray Eight Case originally Headwaters Forest Defense, et al. v. County of Humboldt, et al..).
I doubt the chancellor will be forced out, but this case is going to cost UC about $25 million and the attorneys are probably already knocking on doors and ringing cell phones.
The politicians - GOP and Dem alike - have broken the UC and Cal State systems. Gov. Brown has just announced another round of cuts to services and classes, along with the 5th tuition hike (this one 9%) in six years (he wasn't responsible for the first four).
So students who aren't breaking any laws get arrested, while Katehi's driver fails to buckle up and no one bats an eyelash.
ReplyDeleteFire the cops and ask for Katehi's resignation.
Correct me if I'm wrong - but isn't 'administrative leave' defined as desk work with full pay for the Duration? That's hardly a suspension and barely comes even close to a reprimand.
ReplyDeleteI don't see how the president can stay out of this too much longer before speaking out against how unarmed citizens are being treated by real police and rent-a-cops.
@onething - sorry just read your post after posting my initial reaction and your comment struck a cord with me as I grew up with firefighters and put a daughter through the police academy.
ReplyDeleteThese are civilians. Police, campus cops - all civilians. There is absolutely room for them to disobey orders if they believe them to be wrong. You can't order one civilian to physically harm or kill another civilian. That happens in the courts with a judge and jury - not at the lone discretion of a school chancellor.
This isn't the military. Nobody gets to give the order of 'shoot to kill' a US citizen without a fucking good reason.
It's really not enough. President Obama needs to speak out against the violence.
ReplyDeleteIf my kid had been sprayed while peacefully protesting at a UC as a tuition-paying student, I would sue to high heaven. Police in riot gear in Davis, CA? Puhhlease.
ReplyDeleteI was embarrassed for her during this walk. Like she somehow deserved to be treated like royalty? Shameful.Truly and utterly shameful.
She was afraid to come out? She should not be in a position of authority over these students. No class.
Let it go nswfm...nobody STILL gives a shit what you think.
ReplyDeleteto all of those who think that President Obama should speak out against the violence....he did...remember this:
ReplyDelete"I want to be very clear in calling upon the Egyptian authorities to refrain from any violence against peaceful protesters.
The people of Egypt have rights that are universal. That includes the right to peaceful assembly and association, the right to free speech, and the ability to determine their own destiny.
These are human rights and the United States will stand up for them everywhere."
Oh, wait, that was different...
sigh
/snark
Then ASK President Obama to speak out against it. I did just that yesterday when asked to sign a virtual card for Joe then immediately after that was re-directed to a donation page. At the button, was a "contact us" button, so I did. This is what I said:
ReplyDeletePlease accept my sincere apology for not donating at this moment. I did donate and received my very cool one in a million t-shirt not too long ago, thank you!
I want to reelect President Obama, but at this point my cash donations are going to businesses and people that are backing me and the rest of the 99%.
If you kindly see fit to join this fight and support us, perhaps by publicly supporting our non violent protests as you did for Egypt, I could resume sending in the pittance my two day a week job that is still subsidized with unemployment, allowed me to send previously. Till then, I will continue to vocally support Obama/Biden in 2012, and continue to financially support the Occupy movement. I am even canceling Christmas shopping (again).
Kindest Regards,
My Real Name
Maybe it is stupid and a waste of time, but you can't get a "yes" (or no) if you don't even ask.
Yeah, they call me silly.
The fish stinks from the head down. The chancellor's rush to judgement, then cowering till the wee hours out of fear of retalliation, by a group of peaceful protestors is appalling.
ReplyDeleteReading the comments, especially the one with her background in Greece, she, of all, should have known better. What galls me as a woman, is this woman's story would make her a magnificent role model for young women, not so much now.
The pepperspray incident was hard to take. What struck me was the powerful message the silence of the protesters sent as she walked to her car. Sometimes silence communicates more effectively than words ever could. I applaud those protesters self control, I doubt I could muster that amount of courage after seeing my peers assaulted with weapons.
Campus Police getting administrative leave isn't enough. They should be forced to sit, then peppersprayed repeatedly, then given a pink slip.
Do they not realize they're also the 99 percent?
Sign the petition to show your support.
UCD alum here. I think this is just for starters. The two cops will probably be gone and some window dressing on the UCDPD. But I think Katehi's days are numbered. The Faculty association has called for her resignation; when the students and the faculty are both solidly against you, and many of the alums are peeved, it's time to go. (I think it's also essentially going to be the end of her career.) I *am* proud of the Aggie protesters for their excellent responses. The walk of shame? Brilliant.
ReplyDeleteFirst of all the Chancellor, the UC Davis Chief of Police, and at least one of these officers John Pike should be terminated immediately. We have poor leadership and choices made by the Chancellor, poor training and deployment of officers by the Police Chief, and officers who clearly enjoy brutalizing students so they all should go.
ReplyDeleteThe main problem with all of these instances of police abuse is that the President has not openly stated that enough is enough. There is enough evidence that much of this is being orchestrated by the DHS so President Obama needs to call Napolitano into the Oval Office and set her straight that this abuse has to stop.
Yes these Mayors and University Chancellors/Presidents are wrong but are government should be condoning or orchestrating the attacks either.
It is a bit different when you have to face those you ordered brutalized. The students pay your salary. They are your customers, not the powerful that want you to create a police state.
ReplyDeletePowerful! I'll wait until her response on Monday to make up my mind about wether I think she should step down. That walk past hundreds of her students all sitting in silence watching her... the emotion on her face... I bet she was scared, and justifiably, that was erie to watch. The potential for violence was there, the message from the students was clear, and the silence was deafening. We'll see how she processes this experience over the next few days. Watching the students push back the police was amazing.
ReplyDeleteWOW! The students in the second clip were AMAZING! Their silence spoke louder than anything they could have possibly said. It showed contempt and resolve at the same time.
ReplyDeleteIn the earlier press conference, the blonde woman accompanying the Chancellor Katehi tried to portray the student protestors as thugs when they halted the press conference with their chants. THIS response was FAR more effective. Theirs was a passive resistance that radiated strength.
Katehi opened up UC Davis to all sorts of liability by ordering the brutish behavior from the campus police. She has potentially cost her organization millions in punitive damages. It's not clear to me that there won't be criminal charges for the cops.
I'm betting that Katehi will either resign or be fired.
Anon @ 7:29,
ReplyDeleteDo you think that you occupy the moral high ground with your imbecilic, snotty, bullying bullshit comments?
You are a moronic cousin humping sack of shit. YOU are the poster child for what is so fucking wrong with our political discourse. You think that being a bullying asshole is acceptable. It is not.
You and your fellow moribund toothless cave dwelling misanthrope tribesmen are about to get your asses handed to you, both from the resulting changes that WILL come due to the OWS protests and during next year's election.
Fuck you and every other moronic teabagger that seeks to shout down those who disagree with you. Your views do NOT represent anything other than a VERY tiny, ignorant, frightened bunch of arrogant buffoons.
You can kiss my socialist liberal ass.
too much
ReplyDeletethe protesters were warned repeatedly beforehand that force would be used if they didn't move
they had a choice, they chose pepper spray
Here's some visual irony for you:
ReplyDeletehttp://m.flickr.com/photos/expd/6375357877/
Ozmud, I beg to differ with you on one count. Campus police ARE police officers, not civilian rent-a-cops. My daughter was a cadet for the IUPD and every one of her police officer superiors was a trained professional and cop in the true sense. I am not sure how Cali handles it, but IU has a police academy and the training there is just as hard as any state organization. In fact many graduates are hired immediately out of college from IU.
ReplyDeleteSigned the petition.
ReplyDeleteREprehensible.
I really fear for our country.
This is not a place I want to raise my children in.
according to this eye witness, the police forced open mouths, and sprayed pepper spray DIRECTLY DOWN STUDENT'S THROATS!!!
ReplyDeleteIf that is true, they should be charged with 1st degree assault, lose their jobs, and be prosecuted fully. It's an outrageous abuse of power
http://www.change.org/petitions/police-pepper-spray-peaceful-uc-davis-students-ask-chancellor-katehi-to-resign
Quote:
"Police used batons to try to push the students apart. Those they could separate, they arrested, kneeling on their bodies and pushing their heads into the ground. Those they could not separate, they pepper-sprayed directly in the face, holding these students as they did so. When students covered their eyes with their clothing, police forced open their mouths and pepper-sprayed down their throats. Several of these students were hospitalized. Others are seriously injured. One of them, forty-five minutes after being pepper-sprayed down his throat, was still coughing up blood."
The short cop who did the big pepper spraying (I know 2 cops are on admin leave but the short cop is the famous one now)is being photoshopped onto a series of pictures. He will never live this down. Of course he should be fired, but after the Internet gets done with him he may as well change his name and move to another state.
ReplyDeleteAnd the Humboldt incident back in the 90's happened in MY hometown, and the occupiers there now have been repeatedly assaulted by the PD and Sheriff's department. The last scuffle resulted in 22 arrests, with one person suffering broken ribs. Just 8 miles from Eureka, which is home of bad cops and pepper spray, I live in Arcata, which has been involved in Occupy also. No violence here. Our police chief has maintained a dialogue with the Occupiers throughout. Currently the Occupy Humboldt group up at campus is doing well, the Occupy Arcata group left City Hall when hygiene issues and internal conflict became too much (I don't know where they are now), and the Occupy Eureka group is struggling to maintain a 24 hour presence at the courthouse, with some of the cops just chafing at the bit to take another whack at them. And nobody is pooping and peeing on the bank.
Here is the youtube of the pooped and peed on the bank song, with visual of the Occupy Eureka camp...http://youtu.be/yXAvqftzHBc
ReplyDeleteHere is an animated version of the actual "interview" that took place at the Occupy Eureka camp, concerning who pooped and peed on the bank...http://youtu.be/VVNKmNlNlH8
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately for the "scared" repressive assholes who have been behind these assaults by police, the Internet does not forgive or forget. We're not talking about a few chaotic scenes shown on the evening news, like in the "old days," but rather viral videos and photos circling the globe on every computer. Each one empowers the movement more and frames the violence done to our citizens. Go Occupy!!!
ReplyDeleteThat car carrying away Chancellor Katehi away reminded me of a hearse -- the speed, the contents. Her career is over, you could see it on her face as she walked.
ReplyDeleteIf only that Walk of Shame & Shunning could be enacted for every politician or "leader" who needs it.
This is of course an incident of horrible police brutality and I'm glad it's getting wide notice.
ReplyDeleteBut let's not forget that the police in the US have been acting this way all along against peaceful protestors, since the days of the early labor unions.
In fact, many peaceful protestors have been outright killed by authorities in the US throughout the centuries. That this history is not taught in the schools tells us that the powerful still want to maintain control by violence and suppression when they feel threatened in their centers of power.
The police in NYC, Seattle, UC Berkeley, Pittsburgh, DC, Miami--just to name a few-- have been beating up on and intimidating peaceful protestors with new militarized hardware they acquired post 9/11.
NYC police have been very brutal to the OWS protestors; Mayor Bloomberg went so far as to black out the press from a police sweep carrried out in the middle of the night at the NYC OWS camp. Arresting and assaulting reporters, and jamming the livestream video coming out of the City completed the picture of a military dictatorship trying to subvert democracy and terrorize its citizens.
I could site many more instances in the last 10 years (and before) of peaceful protestors being attacked, arrested, and having their civil and human rights violated by police in the US.
Now there's evidence on camera of police brutality. It's time for us to make the police and their bosses follow the rule of law and the Constitution.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeletetoo much
the protesters were warned repeatedly beforehand that force would be used if they didn't move
they had a choice, they chose pepper spray
1:25 AM
Anon@1:25 AM
Since you approve, de facto, of abrogating the First Amendment right to assemble peacefully and petition for the redress of grievances by your support of violent police assaults on peaceful protestors...one wonders what else you might endorse?
You needn't reply since your answer will no doubt be dreary variations on the theme of violence and uncritical support for the suppression of citizens' rights and liberties we hear from the authorities.
By the way, some US citizens chose death to defend the US Constitution and the rights and protections it guarantees.
I agree with the person who said that the students should have turned their backs to her.
ReplyDeleteWe live in "interesting" (dangerous) times.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/11/15/ocw-primer-the-first-victory-will-be-for-truth/
Ir seems to me that if people need to set up camp in order to protest, that they can do so. If they are constantly ordered away from the area they are using, then it is just a back door way of not letting them exercise their right to protest.
ReplyDeleteThe chief of police for the campus, UC Davis Police Chief Annette Spicuzza, should also resign or be fired.
ReplyDeleteIncluding all police officers involved in this, their, police action against students (or staff, or other people).
Though they'll all probably love getting fired or forced to resign, with their great pensions and after employment benefits.
When I lived in California from 1995 to 2002, it easily became apparent how much the courts, prisons and jails, and corrections officers and the police, liked to keep their industry going at the expense of everyone else.
Not that I ever had any problems with the police when I lived in Oakland, yet I also was probably out of their demographic. Me being middle class and white.
@ Gasman 10:46PM....BRAVO! Still laughing @ "cousin humpers"...Get them trolls!
ReplyDeleteIt's beginning to look a lot like the '60s, everywhere you go....
ReplyDeleteOnly so far no dogs, bullets or firehoses.
It is always said the Nazi women guards at the death camps were just as, if not more, brutal than their male counterparts. This woman has the same mentality. She gets scared and nervous so she gives the go-ahead to her goons to empty the campus. Nice work Chancellor. How much of your salary comes from student tuition?
ReplyDeleteozmud, campus police are regular real cops. Detachments from municipalities. Everywhere. They are Law Enforcement. They are not civilians in the sense of police officers.
ReplyDeleteThe police in the U.S. indeed have this kind of authority at this time. They didn't used to.
They can pretty much do any damn thing they want, anytime. They deal with repercussions and minimal consequences later. And they can always lie and minimize if necessary.
At best, I think they have HR supervisors. I don't think anybody's watching or cares.
Would that all women could walk at night amongst strangers with so much protection and safety.
ReplyDeleteThe Daring Novelist said...
but Katehi was still too scared to come out until the students agreed to all sit down.
4:41 PM
I wonder what the hell she thought would happen? The students were non violent from the get go.
You notice there were no cops in the shots. They would have been the ones being violent,shoving the students aside, threatening and bullying.
At least we can give her credit for having enough sense to keep them in the background. If they had shown up in their Darth Vader outfits it could have gotten very ugly.
A remarkable video and major kudos to the students.