Wednesday, March 21, 2012

George Bernard Shaw nails it.

Have you ever wondered how the book that inspires people to love their fellow man and dedicate their lives to providing for the welfare of others is the same book that was used to defend slavery, oppress women, declare war on infidels, and now vilify homosexuals?

George Bernard Shaw knew exactly why.

21 comments:

  1. George Bernard Shaw and Bertrand Russell, both Brits from the same era, are excellent thinkers on religion and well worth the time to read by anyone contemplating religion.

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  2. Anonymous3:40 AM

    Great post, thank you.

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  3. Anonymous4:03 AM

    O/T

    David Corn was on the Martin Bashir MSNBC show with regard to his new book on President Obama. Sounds like a good one!!

    I was pleased to hear someone talking in support of President Obama -- understanding him as so many of the mouthpieces see the President through one lense -- clearly not understanding/reading him. Corn is very perceptive!!

    Corn along with Clooney should be out there talking about him!! We can't rely on the majority of Dems in DC as I've always seen them as pretty weak and silent in getting out there and speaking/explaining the various issues and what the President has accomplished. They've pretty much left it up to Obama to do it himself.

    I wanted to hug Mr. Corn!!

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/#46799195

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  4. Anonymous4:25 AM

    Thank you, Gryphen, This is going right on the fridge as my first line of defense from my bible thumping in-laws coming in a couple of months.

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  5. Excellent! You made my day.

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  6. Anonymous5:30 AM

    O/T

    Dems Go All In Touting Health Care Reform To Women

    http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/03/democrats-woo-women-with-health-care-reform.php

    "Democrats have launched an aggressive tour to shore-up support for health care reform among their most crucial constituencies, particularly women."

    Finally as I've felt that the Dems behind President Obama have been MIA -- leaving the heavy lifting to President Obama

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  7. from Wikipedia:

    Shaw became a vegetarian while he was twenty-five, after hearing a lecture by H.F. Lester. In 1901, remembering the experience, he said "I was a cannibal for twenty-five years. For the rest I have been a vegetarian." As a staunch vegetarian, he was a firm anti-vivisectionist and antagonistic to cruel sports for the remainder of his life. The belief in the immorality of eating animals was one of the Fabian causes near his heart and is frequently a topic in his plays and prefaces. His position, succinctly stated, was "A man of my spiritual intensity does not eat corpses."

    Vegetarian Starter Kit from the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine

    http://www.pcrm.org/health/diets/vsk/vegetarian-starter-kit

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  8. Gryphen

    A word of warning. GBS has extremely out there views and you have to be super careful addressing anything he has to say. I'm afraid he's one of the few non believers that believers love to smear us all with. I'm aware that a lot of great thinkers of that period fell hook line and sinker for eugenics (and it KILLS me that Tesla did it too!) but we have to distance ourselves. Truth be told it was always a rotten theory and you have to question anyone that would willingly subscribe (oh Tesla, why!!!!!?)

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  9. Anonymous6:35 AM

    GBS with his pince-nez glasses on a string!

    A fave GBS quote: Several people incl GBS are at lunch, waiting for the last guest, a voluptuous starlet, to arrive. She finally does arrive, saying "I'm sorry I'm late. I was delayed." To which GBS replies, "How de-lovely!"

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  10. Anonymous6:36 AM

    Now they co-opt and corrupt the purpose of the Constitution in the very same way. Nothing is sacred. Only what they interpret to be 'their freedoms,' and not all of ours.

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  11. Randall7:14 AM

    I've often said: anyone that actually reads the bible - and believes that nonsense as fact - has a reading comprehension problem.

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  12. Gryphen, here are the lucid words of a scientist about "faith" you'll appreciate,(as I do),and the last paragraph beautifully summarizes what the Tea Party, Palin, Santorum, etc., are all about:

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    1. The link didn't post...here, I'll try again:
      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/victor-stenger/the-god-hypothesis_b_1355321.html

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  13. Anonymous8:01 AM

    Beautiful picture: Karsh rules!

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  14. Gasman8:38 AM

    Shaw had it right.

    The Shaw quote reminded me of George Carlin. I grew up listening to Carlin. HIs inventive but razor like wit made a big impression on me. On one of his albums he said that "man created god in the image and likeness of himself."

    True dat, George.

    The Shaw quote also reminded me of a David Horsey cartoon from several years ago, the "New and Improved" fundagelical image of Jesus:

    http://fromoffshore.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/right-wing-jesus1.gif

    I think between Shaw, Carlin, and Horsey we get a pretty accurate picture of American fundagelicalism.

    I was a

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    1. Anita Winecooler5:37 PM

      I had the same thought about G Carlin while reading GBS's quote. And thanks for the cartoon, I never saw it, but it applies today as much as when it was first drawn.

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  15. Anonymous10:59 AM

    I painstakingly studied the Koran (one of several spellings) looking to see what crazy stuff it must contain, to have inspired some to blow themselves up, taking innocent women and children with them.

    NOTHING of the sort was found. So that book, as well, is misinterpreted by radicals, to justify insane behavior.

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  16. Amen! I agree with Shaw. Each individual interprets it for themselves and the interpretation can become very twisted by some individuals and groups.

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  17. Anita Winecooler5:47 PM

    The Bible HAS been used to justify so many evils throughout history. Some fables, especially when taken literally, are very disturbing.

    For Instance, God made Adam and Eve and said "Be fruitful and mulitply", and they had two sons, one that killed his brother, the other was fruitful and multiplied with who? Eve was the only woman, so I guess incest makes the world go round? And God is ok with that?

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  18. Call me Ishmael, dammit!11:08 PM

    I'm not a Biblical scholar by any means, but the belief is that Jesus was around before the Bible.

    And the Bible was subject to the biased viewpoints of human beings, and editing by the Church elders.

    Jesus didn't force people to live the Bible.

    It is believed that Jesus preached love, kindness and compassion.

    Anything else is a bastardization of the message.

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    Also, wanted to show you this (I believe you, G. are an atheist; I do not know if you are a mythicist):

    IN RESPONSE TO THE CURRENT "THEORY" THAT JESUS NEVER EXISTED:

    Few of these mythicists are actually scholars trained in ancient history, religion, biblical studies or any cognate field, let alone in the ancient languages generally thought to matter for those who want to say something with any degree of authority about a Jewish teacher who (allegedly) lived in first-century Palestine. There are a couple of exceptions: of the hundreds -- thousands? -- of mythicists, two (to my knowledge) actually have Ph.D. credentials in relevant fields of study. But even taking these into account, there is not a single mythicist who teaches New Testament or Early Christianity or even Classics at any accredited institution of higher learning in the Western world. And it is no wonder why. These views are so extreme and so unconvincing to 99.99 percent of the real experts that anyone holding them is as likely to get a teaching job in an established department of religion as a six-day creationist is likely to land on in a bona fide department of biology.

    Why then is the mythicist movement growing, with advocates so confident of their views and vocal -- even articulate -- in their denunciation of the radical idea that Jesus actually existed? It is, in no small part, because these deniers of Jesus are at the same time denouncers of religion -- a breed of human now very much in vogue. And what better way to malign the religious views of the vast majority of religious persons in the western world, which remains, despite everything, overwhelmingly Christian, than to claim that the historical founder of their religion was in fact the figment of his followers' imagination?

    The view, however, founders on its own premises. The reality -- sad or salutary -- is that Jesus was real. And that is the subject of my new book, "Did Jesus Exist?"
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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bart-d-ehrman/did-jesus-exist_b_1349544.html?ref=religion

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  19. The image Quotes is very nice to see.Please add more quotes about George Bernard Shaw

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