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Well I better get off the internet now that I realize I'm God. After all I must have a ton of things to get done today.
First on my list is to do something about the Platypus. I don't know what I was thinking when I made that thing!
(P.S. For those who think this is fake, or just want to do further research, the book is called "Fast Facts on False Teachings" by Ron Carlson and Ed Decker.)
There is no cause to be interfering with the platypus, God or no. Leave it alone. There are far worse things on the planet.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely! Keep your god-like hands off that platypus. That has been one of my favorite animals since I was a little kid.
DeleteSo, are we to conclude for your snark that you disagree? Is it unnecessary to have infinite knowledge in order to be absolutely certain there is no God?
ReplyDeleteHow does that work?
Well, since it takes zero knowledge to believe in a god, then sure, infinite knowledge for those who don't buy it.
DeleteI don't know that I agree that it takes infinite knowledge to be an atheist...
DeleteJust more knowledge that it takes to have blind faith.
The question remains: How do atheists arrive at absolute certainty that there is no God.
DeleteAnd, not all who BELIEVE there is a God have "blind faith". Many great thinkers through man's history have utilized knowledge and wisdom to arrive at the point of taking a "leap of faith" (as described by Kierkegaard), so don't be so quick to paint nonatheists as ignorant.
I personally consider atheists to be pretty close minded. Agnostics are much more admirable.
I love IM, but I gave up thinking about whether there is a God or not years ago. Nor, do I even have a definition of what I think God might be.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I think your statement underneath your masthead is an excellent summary of what one needs to know on conducting one's life.
Heraclitus, a Greek philosopher, said, "Character is destiny". After that the issue is determining the right thing to do, and religious dogma can certainly get in the way.
Meh... as an existentialist I would have to disagree.
DeleteHowever the sane answer to this is , of course humans are fallible, so while I am technically an agnostic on God issues, I am a performative atheist. That usually sets their little hads to exploding.
Another position is just to claim, one is not an atheist, but a secular humanist. Since there is no definitive proof a god or gods exists, we look to what does - humans - for our raison d'etre.
Here you go:
http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php?page=what§ion=main
I'm guessing many on this page will like their core elements and principles.
It has been pointed out that a negative (a-theism) is insufficient to holding people together as a group - in secular humanism, atheism is just one item among many.
Goodness, gracious, they are not the brightest bulbs in the box, are they?
ReplyDeletePoor babies, it must hurt them to think. Do you think we should send them aspirin?
Hmm, wouldn't knowledge of God carry with it the same condition of infinite knowledge? I mean, after all, how can one truly know of omniscience lest they possess a commensurate level of consciousness?
ReplyDeleteOne cannot help but wonder what Hitchens would say to such rubbish.
Religious people don't usually (if ever) speak of KNOWING God, they speak of FAITH. (One's RELIGION equals one's FAITH.)
DeleteI really tire of the arrogance exhibited by atheists who consider their conclusions about the UNKNOWN to be superior to those who believe there is a God.
Most are agnostic, rather than total atheist. At least, that is my perception.
ReplyDeleteThere are Christians that persecute other people for what they believe. Then they turn around and blame the Agnostic or Atheist for making them behave badly.
Unfortunately, these people can not understand that they are doing exactly what their ancestors did a thousand years ago.
The condescension is absolutely astounding - in parts of the thread, I mean.
ReplyDeleteThe book passage is what it is, and it obviously touched a nerve, no?
So, so tortured. Just be at peace with being Atheist, how about? Why the constant postings about this topic?
I can't answer for Gryphen, but as far as I'm concerned as soon as christians stop trying to take over our government and turn our country into a theocracy, we Atheists will be at peace. Until then, their stupidity and hypocrisy must be exposed. We're on a mission....to take our country back!
DeleteThose to whom you refer are NOT Christians. If you bothered to study the principles and origins of Christianity, you'd know that. They're heretics and and just as arrogant and misguided as you are.
DeleteA quirky article at Alternet...
ReplyDeletehttp://www.alternet.org/story/155118/was_jesus_gay_probably/
Atheism to my family simply means that we don't subscribe to any of the World religions, either past or present. A (no) Theism (God): Atheism, No God. It doesn't mean that we are specifically Anti-christian or point fingers at any other religion, we simply do not believe in a god, any of them, all of them. We have our own theories regarding the origin of the universe and mankind, and yes people can always argue the point that we do not know what came prior to the singularity that let forth the energy that created our universe, quite possibly we'll never know, however our science is only as good as the time that we live in and I have a strong suspicion that as our species evolves and our data gathering capabilities become more sophisticated, that we'll find more answers regarding our genesis, and I sincerely doubt those answers will pertain to theology.
ReplyDeletePeople selling christianity to the masses, as in the book example above, must always present things from the perspective of their god being the only one and the only true god. That's how they sell their religion, that's how all evangelicals of any faith sell their religion.
Theories are not facts. So why do you refer to yourself as an atheist, rather than an agnostic?
DeleteI just read the preview on Amazon, I like the part about putting a bunch of metal pieces in a box and shaking it for days and days and months until it became a timepiece that divides the day into 24 hours precisely timed by seconds and minutes.
ReplyDeleteIt makes as much sense to me and an atheist, than the inevitable chapter/verse siting from the Bible, written by 40 people thousands of years ago and held as "truth".
I think there's more to both atheists and believers than the labels.
And I like the analogy of the platypus and "what was God thinking". Reminds me of how did people figure out that the stalk of rhubarb is edible, but not the leaves? How many people had to die to answer THAT question?