Tuesday, June 26, 2012

It does not look like Jerry Sandusky is going to have a very easy time of it while in prison. Bummer!

Courtesy of The Daily:  

Other prisoners were barred from communicating directly with Sandusky, but they could see him. And when the lights went out, inmates serenaded the disgraced coach with a famous line from Pink Floyd’s “The Wall.” 

“At night, we were singing ‘Hey, teacher, leave those kids alone,’ ” Josh said, adding that everyone knew who Sandusky was because inmates had access to television and newspapers. The jail can hold 349 inmates.

I have to imagine that having a bunch of inmates serenade him is soon going to be the LEAST of Sandusky's problems. Child molesters are often targeted by other inmates and if he is sent into general population I don't think it will turn out well for the 68 year old rapist.

On a somewhat unrelated note guess who has something in common with the Centre County Correctional Facility prisoner? Bristol Palin, that's who!

Apparently according to the Huffington Post, both a note that Sandusky wrote to one of his victims and Bristol's ghostwritten book, share the same 1910 quote from Theodore Roosevelt.

Here is the quote from Sandusky's mash note to victim #4: Teddy Roosevelt -- The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena -- whose face is marked by dust, heat, and blood; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, and spends himself in a worthy cause; who at best if he wins knows the thrills of high achievement and if he fails at least fails while daring greatly so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat. 

It's your song, your choices, your life. Id like to feel a small part of it and will be there, if you want. I have believed and stuck up for you.


And here it is as it showed up on the dedication page of the paperback release of "Not Afraid of Life: My Journey So Far:"

To all you underdogs 

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcomings, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.

Now we all know that Bristol did not actually write her book, and it is even less likely that she chose a 1910 quote from Theodore Roosevelt for her dedication page, but how eery is it that the quote shows up in a letter from a rapist to his victim, as well as in a book that spends a number of its pages accusing an ex-lover of BEING a rapist?

I am not one to read too much into a coincidence, but I have to admit that THIS one made the hairs on the back of my neck stand straight up.

80 comments:

  1. Anonymous4:45 AM

    I doubt that Bristle has even read her book, much less knows WHO Roosevelt was. The Palins would more likely quote W than anyone else. Oh, right, HE never said anything memorable. When will they finally realise that they have NOTHING anyone is interested in? Enjoy the ill gotten gains (DWTS, books (even if they didn't sell)and non-reality shows and GO HOME. Levi should thank his lucky stars he did not end up with this twit.

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  2. He will be in Protective Custody for the rest of his "life".

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  3. Leland5:23 AM

    Couldn't happen to a nicer guy! (And I am being extremely facetious!!!!) As for BP? I wish she would - like the rest of her family - simply DRY UP AND GO AWAY!

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  4. Chortling over the fact that Sandusky will himself likely be subjected to the crimes he committed is at the very least hypocritical. Everyone knows that the Constitution prevents "cruel and unusual" punishment. Sandusky's punishment is having his freedom taken away, not to be raped himself. People who think that is just or proper need to examine their own consciences.

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    1. Anonymous6:29 AM

      Thank you for reminding us .... I am chastened.

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    2. Anonymous6:33 AM

      No, society must be better than that. I can only speak for myself but I suspect among Gryphen's readers I am not a singularity. People vent when something this horrible happens. People may chortle, but at the end of the day, incarceration is the answer. And the fact is, Sandusky subjected his victims to cruel and unusual punishment.

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    3. Anonymous8:10 AM

      OK, I examined my conscience and it is cool with the fact that Sandusky may get his a$%^hole blown out by Big Bubba in the big house.
      Sadly, he will probably enjoy it, so it is not having the same effect my conscience really wants it to have.

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    4. In the US penitentiary system, protective segregation must be provided in a separate housing unit usually in a higher security prison for prisoners who are in danger of being assaulted by other prisoners due to the nature of their crimes. Protective segregation may be voluntary or involuntary, but not used as a form of punishment.

      Anon 5:33AM, you make a very good point about the comments here that are suggesting "cruel and unusual" punishment for Sandusky might be appropriate given his crimes. The initial thought of retribution or vengeance in reaction to such heinous crimes is no vice; neither is speech displaying anger or raw emotion in reaction to a this or a similar situation, as long as it is not meant to "round up a posse" to actually do illegal acts and circumvent justice prescribed by the laws of the state.

      I would maintain that the great majority of the “eye for an eye” comments are just a type of gallows humor, a way that we civilized persons deal with the shock to our society when we realize that persons and institutions we held in high regard have supported the proliferation of these crimes with their inaction, based upon their own greed, self-serving agendas or lack of personal scruples. The emotion that is displayed is a natural reaction by folks who would never act on their rage toward another human being in the way that their words might suggest.

      Mine is not an expert opinion, but merely the viewpoint of someone who’s hung around Jesse’s blog for almost 4 years now, and I can vouch for the level of character of most of the others. Personally, I think that we need to discuss the underlying issues MORE, not less, and let those who are affected more by this and similar situations speak out freely without constraint. Sure, someone might say something that would be inappropriate to actually plan and carry out. But rather than muting folks that might say something with emotion that would allow others to feel their pain, and thereby learn of some of the true hurt experienced by victims and their close ones, an open discussion with minimal moderation might give all of us some viewpoints that we’d otherwise not have the benefit of.

      Thanks for your reasoned comment. Please consider adding a moniker to your comments to allow two-way discussion, because you obviously have some valuable input on the subject.

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    5. Sorry Arcturus, I guess I didn't notice your moniker when I read your comment, and then I didn't scroll back up far enough to see your moniker before I posted.

      Duh! :( I sure wish we had an edit function on discus. lol

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  5. Anonymous5:37 AM

    How does this quote (Theo. Roosevelt's words) apply to Bristol Palin's life? What a stretch of the imagination that took for her ghostwriter!

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  6. Anonymous5:38 AM

    Bristol is imitating her Mother with Glen Rice, open wide.

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  7. Anonymous5:42 AM

    The quote was also used by Nixon in his resignation speech. Since then, most people with any sense avoid the quote, because it is seen as manipulative and a way to silence one's critics. But what else can we expect from a family who is always saying, "We were raised to be hardworking and humble and everything wonderful."

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  8. Anonymous5:51 AM

    What would a quote like that have to do with a girl barely reaching her 20's? Her life as the daughter of the Palins warrant her to be rallying what cause with that quote? Does Bristol even have a worthy cause? And the "triumph of high achievement"? Or "fails while daring greatly?

    She and her ghostwriter and Sarah really have a messiah complex. Do they think that they are in the arena, and the cold timid souls are their critics? They are stuck on their critics, right left and center. Of all the inspiring quotes they could have chosen, they come up with one that makes the unsuccessful hero to be superior to those who criticize his shortcomings.

    Does Bristol really think she's a unique hero that tried to succeed against all odds and is the target of critical cold timid souls? These Palins really do take themselves way too seriously.

    They may believe they are the blood, sweat and tears worker bees who tilled the ground and made sacrifices of putting themselves out there speaking out about pro-life, against abortion, sacrificial single motherhood..........but that's not really what they are. Anyone who gets paid $100,000 or even $20,000 a gig for speaking about how they "chose life", are delusional. They aren't the heroes in the arena, whose faces are marred by dust, the REAL heroes are the single mothers, all mothers who chose to keep their babies when they had absolutely NO advantages, money, family, opportunities. They are the ones who have worked for the 'cause' - they haven't been lifted up on pedestals, or hurrah-ed, sent gifts by strangers, sent donations by supporters, or given a free ride. They are the 'unknown' out there, no voice, no name.

    Bristol like her mother will scoop any any and all the efforts and sacrifices of others and make it all their own, for a PRICE, of course.

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  9. Anonymous5:55 AM

    I can't see how Bristol claimed that she met life's challenges head-on and triumphed through adversity when she ended up leaving (quitting) Los Angeles. It was too mean and tough for her, even living in a swell mansion, working at a fake charity job, and being filmed trashing Levi. As GWB used to say, "It's hard work, with a whine at the end."

    By the way, I looked at the description of her show to air tonight, and the second episode involves trying to contact Levi. Since we know that he refused to appear on her program, she will be trashing him in absentia-- setting him up to be the bad guy again. That's not a very inspiring life.

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    1. Anonymous9:44 AM

      How have you missed all the previews and discussions about them since last week?

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  10. Anonymous6:15 AM

    It doesn't surprise me one bit that Bristol pals around with pedophiles. The whole Palin klan likes to associate with undesirables. See: Jeremy Morlock, Todd Palin, etc.

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    1. Anonymous10:22 AM

      The Palins are real proud to have Piper Palin with Ted Nugent. You can only imagine what pals Bristol had growing up. Her bff is still a Morlock. They just hide that now. Back in the day when she was training Tripp to be nasty, the Morlock friend was also on duty. Baby sitting Bristol or Tripp.

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    2. See how the insufferable bitch palin accepted pedophiles living next door to her before she accepted an award winning author as a neighbor.

      Then the palin the clown trashed McGinniss' name by saying he wanted to peek into piper's bedroom.

      Tell you what palin buy curtains and stop being such a dicwad.

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    3. WakeUpAmerica3:03 PM

      Game of Life,

      I believe they were recovering drug addicts.

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    4. FUCK YOU MCCAIN!!!!!!9:56 PM

      @3:03- Don't forget the guy who tried to kill his mom with a machete!

      But a Writer?!?!

      Egads!

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  11. Anonymous6:37 AM

    O/T, but check this out...

    Bristol has been copying the Kardashian's, now they are copying her ('cept Kim does it waaay better):

    KIM KARDASHIAN IS TRYING TO WIN BACK HER FANS WITH RELIGION

    Kim Kardashian continues to try everything to make you like her. Her attempts to show her “charitable“ side came under question when everything she did – at the downtown mission or in Haiti – was photographed, and she was in full makeup. It turns out her charitable eBay store that sells her used glamorous apparel only donates 10 % of the proceeds to charity – the rest goes into her pocket. Kim has bragged that she donates 10 % of her vast income to “the church,” but it’s the Life Change Community Church in Calabasas, founded by her mother. On Sunday she tweeted that she was on her way to church – to make sure photographers caught the special event.


    http://blindgossip.com/?p=36340#more-36340

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    1. Anonymous8:39 AM

      Bristol is not the first person to use religion. She is copying the same that Kim is doing. It is an old trick. Kim may at least be going to church. She is a way better business person as well as an actor. Has a far better reality gig and that is not saying much for reality TV.

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    2. Anonymous9:09 AM

      "She’ll Become More Tim Tebow" Little Tripp is being raised to be more Tim Tebow. When he is not saving his mother from his mean old hurtful Poppa or sticking his tongue out at the paps. The cycle of abuse just goes on and on .... Weird how a television network is now participating in the Palin abuse cycle. The learning channel?

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    3. Old news, Madonna did it too.

      bustol can be all the phony jesus save crowd but just don't try to adopt a baby that isn't white.

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  12. Anonymous6:42 AM

    THere was a very interesting, and difficult L&O: SVU about a child who was sexually abused by his piano teacher. He was applying to Julliard. Everyone was rooting for him. He had been very brave, and had a very difficult confronting his abuser.
    And then the show makes a shift when they learn that this boy, now a young man, is also a perp (a large percentage of perps were abused as a child). At this point Elliot turns on him, and Olivia remains sympathetic. Neither suggests letting the young man just go free, but one is judgmental, and the other compassionate.
    Does anyone know what happened to Sandusky as a child? Might our feelings become much more conflicted if we knew as a little boy he was abused? And yes, I know that he not just abused children, but when confronted took no responsibility. He should have manned up and made it unnecessary for the boys to testify at all. That actually makes me madder than his abuse.

    I'm not suggesting letting him off. My sympathy and compassion for him starts right after we keep him away from children. And I have to work to remember he is just another wounded soul like the rest of us. But I can't imagine the hell it must be to live every day of your life wanting something that can be so destructive. something that for most people a a beautiful part of their life. And the mental health community does not yet have good ways to help these people. This is compounded by the fact that once a perpetrator commits an act of sexual abuse, he would probably be reluctant to tell anyone. A therapist would be required to report him as he committed a crime.

    Rather than seeing a monster, I see a man who has lived in hell his whole life. A hell that he has shared with others, and which I wish to stop him from sharing with anyone else. But I am not gleeful, and jubilant that he was caught, although I am glad he has been stopped, finally.

    I think it is in our interest to have enough compassion to find solutions, because sending them to jail, while possibly the best solution right now, obviously isn't enough of a threat to keep people from committing these crimes. And if you don't have compassion, then perhaps logic would suggest that rather than further pushing them outside of the mainstream culture where they seek understanding and compassion from each other, we consider their plight and be motivated help. There are self-help groups for almost every malady and demon out there. I don't believe there is much for pedophiles.
    Lucy

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    1. Anonymous8:15 AM

      Actually many people in our country have been sexually abused as children. Luckily most do not become monsters. I have no sympathy for him, only disappointment that he wasn't able to confront his demons or get help. And I am really disappointed in all those who covered up and enabled him.

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    2. Anonymous8:19 AM

      Not all abusers were abused. Some were, some weren't. Not all who were abused will repeat the cycle. Sandusky was in a position of power and had plenty of ability to seek out professional help. He didn't. Instead he used his position to abuse kids. He had urges to do things with young boys and he used his considerable money and influence to start an organization that would give him access to an ever renewing crop from which to choose. Guess what: he probably got a huge tax shelter out of it as well. How convenient.

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    3. Anonymous8:41 AM

      Both Sarah and Bristol appear that they were abused in childhood. Too bad denial is so strong and they can't break free.

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    4. Anonymous9:30 AM

      8:15 AMActually many people in our country have been sexually abused as children. Luckily most do not become monsters.

      I recently heard that it is 60% that do become perp monsters.

      It is a good idea to address all this and have more discussions until we can better turn things around.

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    5. Anonymous9:36 AM

      I completely agree with you. As someone who was abused by a family member for 8 years I can't stand to see people take such a black and white stance on this subject. It is quite possible that Sandusky is just an evil creep who had no problem with abusing these boys, but it is also possible that he was abused as a boy and developed a compulsion to do these things and thus created his own living hell. If that is the case I would like to see him address this with a mental health professional. He should not ever be free to live in society again, but maybe he can find some redemption on the inside. I also feel that at his age, if he wants to kill himself then he should be allowed to. Also, I wish people would stop assuming that Sarah and Bristol were abused. How can you tell? There are many different causes of their kind of behavior. I like to think people would be very surprised if they found out about my past.

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    6. Anonymous11:48 AM

      Good points 9:36. Thanks for sharing.

      As ordinary humans, we are hardly qualified to evaluate the myriad of contributors--- from genetics to environment to personal experiences--- affecting every aspect of our own personality or behavior in every waking moment.

      So what makes us feel competent in determining whether it is parental shortcomings, mental illness, drugs, allergies to heavy metals in the environment, failing social structures or any combination that cause anti-social behavior?

      Or what about demons or just pure evil?

      Sometimes, I can be the worst offender of "thinking I know the exact cause" of something, just because I'm fairly intelligent by some standards and because I've actually taken time to evaluate the situation as best I can with all of the available information.

      But in my final analysis and conclusion, I might really not know shit at all, because, like you said and I paraphrase, "It ain't always black and white."

      Thanks for reinforcing something so important for all of us to keep in mind. My best to you.

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    7. Anonymous3:13 PM

      I totally agree with the person who said they were also angry at the people that covered up and allowed it to happen. I have heard victims of sexual abuse by their father say that as bad as what their father did, it was their mother's intentional blind eye that hurt the most.
      Lucy

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    8. Anonymous3:23 PM

      @8:15 I have no sympathy for him, only disappointment that he wasn't able to confront his demons or get help.

      Where would you suggest he go to get help to confront his demons? Until the first time he abuses, he doesn't know that he would really do it. Once he has done it, if he tells a mental health therapist they have an obligation to report criminal behavior, as well as an obligation to warn victims (if a victim has been identified).

      Further, I imagine that even before the First Time, he knows that should he tell someone, the response will more likely be repulsion and judgement, rather than compassion. And I include therapists in that. My own experience is that finding a good therapist is difficult (but they do exist and do wonderful things for people) but it's likely a search for a good therapist (and finding someone good with this subject could be difficult) will entail visits with therapists that do more harm and discourage talking about it (not necessarily directly, just de facto).
      Lucy

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    9. Anonymous5:14 PM

      Dana Jacobson is very glad to be able to open up now. It is not an easy journey.
      http://www.danajacobson.blogspot.com/2012/06/jerry-sanduskys-victims-arent-alone-on.html

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  13. Anonymous6:42 AM

    This whole Sandusky thing is really making me remember things I prefer not to remember. I really hope they hurry up & sentance him--I hear it can take up to 90 days after a guilty verdict. And I'm happy that the prisoners are greeting him like they do all child molesters (I have a friend that works in admin in a prison & he says that people who hurt children are the most hated - after cops).

    I want his ugly, nasty face off the news so that I can move on with my life & not have those horrible mental flashbacks. I'm sure my spouse would prefer it to.

    Please, Griff, talk all you want to about whoever, but please don't link the Palin's to Sandusky. I know they are all horrible people, but I really don't want to see Bristol's face & Sandusky's face linked up together. Really weird.

    And I'm not a Troll, so please don't attack me.

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    1. Anonymous8:11 AM

      Wow. That's terrible. I too hope that the media moves on soon and i hope you can get a little peace.

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    2. Anonymous8:43 AM

      Todd's face with Sandusky works better. It may be Chuck Heath's face and Sandusky that is more apropo.

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    3. Some molestees find Sandusky Saga to be cathartic.

      I hope you can pour some vibrant sunshine on your flashbacks because if you're pushing them down, down, down ~ well, let's just say they're manifesting their horribleness in ways you don't even realize.

      Even a long-ago molester depends on you keeping the flashbacks squashed.

      Safe, cyber hugs for you, Anon 6:42.

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    4. Agree with you, hammer.

      Anon6:42, you own those feelings but they don't own you, and someone who hurt us in the past doesn't deserve to have any control over either us or our feelings.

      You are stronger than you'll ever know you are until you prove it to yourself. You've already proven you're much stronger than anyone who might harm a young person.

      Don't be afraid to allow yourself to confront those feelings on your own terms. You're in control now and nothing from the past can hurt you in any manner--- either today or in the future--- so be bold and strong. My best to you and yours.

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    5. Anonymous11:03 AM

      All due respect to your pain.

      I lost a dearly loved husband in a car accident long ago. To this day when I see anything close to that on the news it is disturbing. I don't expect the news will stop reporting. I have to deal with what comes my way.

      It is good to open discussion and for the public to learn and be warned.

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    6. Please seek help because your molester doesn't deserve one more second of your precious life.

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  14. Anonymous7:30 AM

    Too far. Seriously, linking Bristol to Sandusky via some ghostwriter's choice of quotes is just taking it too far. Bristol deserves a ton of criticism for almost everything this vapid little twit does, but not for this. This is just a horrible coincidence and Sarah may not believe in them, but the rest of us know they occasionally occur. Should Bristol have been called on the carpet for accusing Levi of date rape? Ab-so-fucking-lutely!! Should the horrific acts of a child rapist be connected to her through a quote? Fuck no. This is like saying, "I'm not saying Tom Selleck is a Nazi, but Hitler had a mustache, too you know!" It's a spurious connection.

    Jesus, Gryphen, please don't make me defend Bristol EVER again. I believe in what you do and have been reading your blog for four years, waiting for the day your reporting helps take Sarah out of the public eye for good. False equivalencies hurt your chances of going mainstream with information. Besides, there's PLENTY of ridiculous Bristol stuff to report on!! Let's get back to that and babygate ;-)

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    1. Gryphen did not link Bristol to Sandusky. Gryphen noted quite clearly that this is a coincidence.

      But there are "resonances" and they are fair game, because, as noted above, the quote has no relevance to Bristol Palin's "story" and the quote has a most unfortunate history and connotation.

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    2. Anonymous8:51 AM

      Bristol or other Palin offspring, may be more comparable to Matt Sandusky.

      This isn't a comparison. It is a quote they share. Or Nancy, but using Bristol's name. With that and you can think of Bristol as a victim. Nancy is not a Mrs. Sandusky. Nancy is part of the machine that is manipulating the puppet (robot) for power and financial gain. All in the name of God, of course. Blasphemous and the taker of souls.

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    3. Anonymous9:08 AM

      "guess who has something in common with the Centre County Correctional Facility prisoner? Bristol Palin, that's who!"

      If you don't think that's an attempt to smear by association, you may be a bit naive about how this works. I think this is a tactic that is beneath the work Gryphen does. It reminds me of something the winged monkeys over at C4P would pull. Our side should be above this kind of bullshit.

      What difference does it make that the quotes showed up in both instances? Bristol probably never saw her book before it was published and she probably only read it because it was all about her! In order for the truth to come out about Queen Douchebag, our (Gryphen's and other anti-Palin bloggers) integrity must remain in tact. Let the lunatic right make these kinds of mistakes. This adds nothing to the credible criticism of Sarah and her grifting offspring- this takes us in the opposite direction. If Gryphen can't see that, he's more invested in demonizing Bristol than he is in getting the truth out about the whole family. I never thought the purpose was to demonize any of them for the sake of doing so. As I said before, sticking with "just the facts" is damaging enough for this clan.

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    4. Anonymous10:02 AM

      Sandusky is old and he has been a pedophile child abuser for many years.

      Bristol is young, she has only one TV docu-series where she shows her form of abuse on one child.

      Please, no xxcuses or misplaced empathy for enablers. Including Nancy French, Sarah and Todd Palin.
      Jerry Sandusky and his enablers damaged children for the rest of their lives.
      http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/moment-space/2012/jun/24/Jerry-Sandusky-enablers-damaged-children/

      Tripp will be damaged for the rest of his life. Lifetime network, advertisers, Helping Hands LLC and the man behind both companies David Stanton aka David McKenzie are willing enablers. The problem is they want to foist an unsuspecting public into enabling and up and coming child abuser. We can chose not to witness the abuse. If we do watch this atocious treatment of a child we need to do something to end the pattern. If we do nothing we become enablers. What we see of Tripp Johnston is the tip of an iceberg. No one dares to consider the entirety of how this all came about.

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    5. Anonymous10:02 AM

      Your "concern" is duly noted 7:30 & 9:08am. Let it go Sarah.

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    6. Anonymous11:08 AM

      9:08 AM

      'What difference does it make that the quotes showed up in both instances?' Mr. Kelly made the observation.

      The quote is now a symbol of how Bristol is used. She does not write her own material. She may contribute something but doubtful it is that quote. That quote is from someone with more in common with the Sandusky family. The quote is pertinent because it an excuse and falsely glorifies the people who are using it.

      THAT QUOTE IS PART OF THE ENABLING PROCESS.

      Enablers must be recognized and punished. They are as low and evil as the perps in some cases.

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    7. Anonymous6:15 PM

      Anonymous10:02 AM:
      'Your "concern" is duly noted 7:30 & 9:08am. Let it go Sarah.'

      You know what, Anon at 10:02, screw you. That "you're either with us or against us" mentally is better left to the mouth-breathers at C4P. How the fuck can you expect to have a rational discussion when any time anyone dares to question the wisdom of a post, they are immediately dismissed as being a Palin? How fucking stupid is that?

      I realize that my argument is a little more nuanced than "Bristol bad, Gryphen good" but surely you can understand that it was criticism of an apparent attempt to link Bristol to Sandusky without cause. Bristol has done some shitty, nasty things that make her a certifiable douchebag. But, where I come from, being an entitled, self-absorbed, ignorant bitch is NOT the same as raping children and should not be conflated.

      It's no different than the Quitter Queen getting on stage and saying (now) President Obama pals around with terrorists. It's despicable. I personally think that Gryphen used poor judgment in posting this. My hope was that he would consider why he felt the need to do so. He'd be the first one to be outraged if Obama had quoted Roosevelt in one of his books and the Daily Caller ran a post about Khaddafi having used that very same quote at some point. If YOU wouldn't be outraged by that, or don't see the connection, you are so blinded by your hate for Sarah (and I get it--I do--she's infuriating) that you are no longer able to be objective about anything related to her.

      If we lose the ability to think for ourselves, we might as well throw in the towel and stop asking questions. And, if we can't question each other, Gryphen included, we're no better than they are.

      And, by the by, I'm sure Gryphen could all but guarantee I'm no fucking Palin. I'm almost as far from Alaska as one can get in the contiguous 48.

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    8. Anonymous8:23 AM

      The Palins have an amazing talent to spread "guilt by association"

      They deserve to have it sent right back on them.

      Goose, meet Gander.

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  15. Anonymous7:43 AM

    The man is a monster! He deserves all he gets and more in prison and I hope he suffers massively for his disgusting acts:

    In Newly-Released Audio, Matt Sandusky Chronicles Years Of Alleged Abuse By His Father

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/in-newly-released-audio-matt-sandusky-chronicles-years-of-alleged-abuse-by-his-father/

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  16. Anonymous8:03 AM

    that was way back when he was in the county jail
    in prison he'll be put in a cell block with other pervs
    and since he's high profile, he be kept safe from them too
    he'll be dead in a few years anyway
    til then taxpayers will take good care of him
    not back for his crimes

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  17. Anonymous8:05 AM

    County jail sucks, prison is good

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  18. Anonymous8:08 AM

    There's a big problem with chinzilla using that quote. Teddy Roosevelt was making a distinction between people who talk about doing and people who actually get down in the muck and make things happen. Bristol is in the former camp to be sure. For instance, there are people who spend a great deal of time and energy honing the craft of, say, writing. Their victory is when they can actually turn out a manuscript deemed worthy of praise by others who have also honed that craft and appreciate it. THen there are nitwits like Bristol, who can't string together two coherent statements, but who can pay another, barely more literate surrogate like Nancy to cobble together a banal piece of crap that would be deemed pointless by anyone who bothered to get an actual education. Bristol's own quote basically places her on the side of irrelevancy. Course, Bristol could be expected to lead with her chin.

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  19. Anonymous8:29 AM

    Two young women from the Valley, Britta Hanson and Lanesia Garcia had the opportunity to secure a nursing education with scholarships. Why not Bristol? Bristol's mental challenges? Bristol's jealousy? Both?
    http://tinyurl.com/Bristol-spreads-lies

    May 21, 2011 Hanson recently got a scholarship from the Mat-Su Health Foundation
    http://socyberty.com/politics/track-palin-and-britta-hanson-marry/

    http://matsucentral.org/scholarships.html
    If Bristol graduated (as she claimed) there is no way she would have made the choices she made. She could have been like Britta Hanson, Lanesia Garcia or this young mother: Mom Who Once Relied On Welfare, Becomes ER Doctor
    http://tinyurl.com/7zezlc4

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  20. Some wag on HuffPo said it best: Sandusky will go from Penn State to the State Pen.

    And a "bummer" it will be. Here is Canada, the word "bum" also means someone's rear end. Sandusky will end up as prison bitch to some big bruiser if there is any real justice in this world.

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  21. Anonymous9:10 AM

    O/T The Feds are doing a nationwide sweep on sex trafficking of teen prostitutes. Pay attention, Todd Palin you might be next.

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    1. Anonymous10:08 AM

      It doesn't appear that Todd will ever be held accountable, does it? No, he gets an absolutely ridiculous reality show. I hope I'm wrong but the Palins seem to get one pass after another.

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    2. Anonymous12:14 PM

      This man was a Pediatrician.
      Parrilla faces five to 20 years in prison
      http://www.theday.com/article/20120626/NWS02/306269940

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    3. Anonymous2:20 PM

      You never know what will start unraveling the best laid plans of Todd Palin.
      http://tinyurl.com/7oc9gbf
      LOS ANGELES -- What started as a routine question-and-answer session at Los Angeles International Airport turned into a months-long, multi-agency investigation into an alleged sex trade ring that had been operating for at least two years.

      Coincidently, Todd Palin and Terry Crews. Cheeseburger Eddy, prison movie. ' terry crews meaning , definition of terry crews , what is terry crews - A large black man from the movie White Chicks, the Boondocks and Everybody hates Chris who looks like the dude that would rape you if you dropped the soap in the jail. Coolest motha##a alive.'

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  22. Anonymous9:13 AM

    I think it is a service to victims, survivors, and future victims not to so vilify these people - at least not publicly as to treat them as beyond compassion and humanity. Suppose someone your son loved (a coach, a priest, a camp counselor) molested your son, and your son was afraid to speak because while he was being believed and protected, his parents and community were vilifying a man he had conflicted feelings about, but still loved and cared for him, and was afraid of losing the relationship. The victims and survivors often have very conflicted feelings about the perpetrator, and their immediate response is not to crucify him. That may come later, but it will never come if he can't first talk about it; and he is less likely to talk about it if he thinks people are going to vilify a man who he still cares deeply about, just doesn't like some of the things he does.

    I am not saying what Sandusky did wasn't horrible. I just think Sandusky is a complicated person, and victims who haven't yet spoken up may be reading this and it may be reinforcing their fear of speaking up. I also think they may be less likely to speak up because they don't think anyone would believe them that Mr. X is a monster although they ,might believe Mr. X was a man who made a very big mistake and did something that was very wrong.


    Lucy.

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    1. Anonymous1:52 PM

      I appreciate the point you made that the abused have conflicted feelings. I can admit I waited to file a restraining order on my spouse when he escalated to physical violence until he did it many times.

      I wanted to add that perpetrators instill fear in victims outright warning them if they tell people they love will get hurt or more harm will result to the victim. Abusers feel good frightening their victims that no one else cares about them as the perpetrator does.

      Sometimes as portrayed in the movie Precious a parent hates and abuses the child as if it is all the victims fault instead of the perpetrator is sick. I had a mother like that who convinced herself men can't control themselves sexually. When unexpectedly a relative a relative drove me to the woids demanding to "f---" me I would not have told my mother for it would have been me punished. I was literally scared and sickened vomiting all over myself and no rape took place.

      Society often blames the victims. When a woman tells domestic abusers do all they can to annihalate the female she is mentally illl, deranged lunatic. Sometimes I think suicide would have been the best reputation then beaten behind closed doors or losing a lifetime of relationships and my offspring abused in a different way.

      Telling only serves as possibly a warning or so others are not hurt. People like to believe it's because you did not say no. No to a bonafide abuser is a red flag to a bull. They escalate. People treat victims like lepers. I had conflict to abandon my children to escape the abuser to disappear to save myself.

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    2. WakeUpAmerica2:53 PM

      I don't think that applies so much when it is sexual assault. Fear, loathing, and hate are more likely emotions.

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    3. Anonymous3:30 PM

      @2:53 PM I don't think that applies so much when it is sexual assault. Fear, loathing, and hate are more likely emotions.

      Have ever talked to a survivor of sexual abuse. Many that speak out have moved through many emotions, sometimes ending in loathing and hate. But there are many more who haven't gone public. My discussions and reading is that victims and survivors are often very conflicted. They love the attention they lack. They appreciate the nice things the perpetrator does. There is an excellent book, The Tricky Part, about a survivor, who at the end takes steps to make peace with his abuser - not fear, loathing & hate.
      Most abusers aren't the stranger behind the bush. They are people with complicated relationships with the child and his family.

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    4. Anonymous3:53 PM

      There is no easy answer for victims and all situations are not the same. Sexual perpetrators are the biggest bullies. No matter how kindly and helpful they may appear. They are the most insidious among bullies. It is exasperating beyond words what to make of enablers or as one victim called Mrs. Sandusky, the associate. It sounds like a business. I am more familiar with the Catholic Church pedophiles since that has been an issue in my community. If it is the Pope I detest that enabling associate as much as the sick men who violate children. That is not talking about isolated incidents but a very systematic crime syndicate. It looks like Penn State is another version of the same type perverts. Todd Palin has not been thoroughly exposed but no doubt more than the three quarters of a million people that make up the state of Alaska are effected. The louse, Warren Jeffs, is behind bars yet it looks like he is still controling the 'breeding stock' of those he leads. Those babies would not know what a crime, they will be taught from day one what those men do is 'holy.' Their associates will call it love to prepare their daughters for the future.
      http://tinyurl.com/7wofm9y

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  23. Anonymous10:17 AM

    Re: Bristol Palin and the bloggy
    Bristol can't talk about the Stephan Hanks lawsuit. Fine. Bristol is not being sued by the Masseys. She can talk about the case against David Stanton to her hearts desire. Say she is innocent and wants to stand up for the man and Production Company that did so much for her. She can have Nancy stand up for Bristol's friends.

    Former Child Stars Lay Claim to Bristol Palin's New Reality Show
    http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/06/20/47641.htm

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  24. Anonymous10:46 AM

    Chris Kelly wrote this: Jerry Sandusky and Bristol Palin Use the Same Creepy Quote

    Jerry Sandusky and Bristol Palin "...they have linked themselves with their favorite quote, which is weird. It's like if everyone in your yearbook's favorite expression was from "Free Bird." Because then it would be my yearbook."

    Sandusky and Palin are both adults. They can do this kind of link up if they want. Track Palin is fighting so Bristol has freedom of speech, including freedom to quote. Freedom to hire a ghost writer to write for her.

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    1. Anonymous11:57 AM

      Which Palin family member are you?

      And also Track is not fighting for chit. He is tucked away in a safe zone.

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    2. Anonymous12:09 PM

      Track Palin has NEVER seen combat, troll. Keep drinking the kool-aid!

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    3. Anonymous12:50 PM

      True Track is tucked away or hiding. He is not literally fighting in combat. That is the false narrative, like to say Bristol is a strong Alaskan frontier woman who can do all things wonderful. Propaganda and false narrative.

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    4. Anita Winecooler8:17 PM

      What part of Chris Kelly's quote is not true?

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  25. Anonymous12:03 PM

    Bristol Palin's crew
    http://tinyurl.com/7ezfsby

    Dr. Drew is an advocate and speaks out about all things teen mom and single parenting. He must watch and review Bristol's series. He has interviewed Bristol. Levi? This is no time for Dr. Phil to be silent either.
    http://tinyurl.com/79z2rdz

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  26. Anonymous1:51 PM

    Karl Jung would say there was pedo-synchronicity twixt Team Palin and Team Sandusky.

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  27. WakeUpAmerica2:49 PM

    Freedom to lie, grift, whine, cheat, and steal. We get the message.

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  28. My daughter and I actually discussed this Sandusky case last night.

    My daughter is well aware that I have worked with children who have been sexually abused, as well as children who have become perpetrators themselves, and that I have many mixed emotions about simply condemning this type of behavior.

    However, as I told her, regardless of what kind of abuse Jerry Sandusky suffered in his youth, he is now an ADULT. There is a thing called "personal responsibility." And you cannot spend your life blaming your impulses and bad behaviors on your childhood trauma.

    This was a man who was able to conduct himself in the world as a seemingly responsible adult. He could have protected these children if he had been willing to put their needs above his own.

    And this was NOT some isolated slip, he did this systematically for YEARS. For years!

    So in my opinion there is just no sympathy available for the guy, and whatever happens to him in prison, is probably much less than he actually deserves for what he did to those innocent children.

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    1. Gryphen ~

      To me, one of the most evil aspects of the Sandusky Saga is that he purposely built and used Second Mile as a hunting ground.

      Imagine how the donors who helped grow Second Mile now feel about helping Sandusky with his 'pet' project.

      And, Gryphen, thank you so much for giving this topic space on your blog. I'm sure the whole thing has sickened you AND your daughter, and would have been much easier to ignore.

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    2. Anita Winecooler8:05 PM

      I wish I read this before posting, Thanks, Gryphen, We've focused on Jerry, the pedophile clergy, and pedophiles, yet lost sight of the victims, their family and friends and the lives ruined.

      I can't imagine the guilt their families feel for trusting their children to a charity while unknowingly placing them in the hands of evil incarnate.

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  29. Anita Winecooler7:58 PM

    I'm kind of amazed that people can find so much compassion and care in their hearts to worry about Sandusky and whatever fate he may face with punishment for his crimes. I'd rather see the compassion go to the kids whose lives he's destroyed, their extended family for the guilt they must feel knowing that, while trying to give their kids the best childhood, despite turmoil in their families, they willingly handed their innocent kids into the hands of evil incarnate.

    And I can assure you, for the ten or so brave people who stared this scum in the eye and exposed him for what he is, while baring their pain in public, there's countless more out there, who suffer in silence, and won't get the help THEY deserve and need.
    How did this man finagle legally adopting six children? How did his wife NOT hear/suspect/know what was going on in her home?
    And the adults (the most revered and now departed Joe Paterno (bow your heads in respect) included, just do the bare minimum and NOT report it to the police or Child Protective Services - where's the outrage?

    As for the quote both Jerry and Bristol's ghost writer stole and used as their own, it's simply a ploy to justify their self serving "victimhood" roles, not comparing them as equally vile and evil.

    I just want Jerry, pedophile clergy, and pedophiles in general to face judgement and get off the streets.

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  30. Anonymous8:17 PM

    I think an even better song to seranade Sandusky with is-Janie's got a Gun by Aerosmith. He jacked a little baby the man's got to be insane.

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  31. Anonymous10:24 PM

    @7:58 PM I'm kind of amazed that people can find so much compassion and care in their hearts to worry about Sandusky and whatever fate he may face with punishment for his crimes. I'd rather see the compassion go to the kids whose lives he's destroyed, their extended family for the guilt they must feel knowing that, while trying to give their kids the best childhood, despite turmoil in their families, they willingly handed their innocent kids into the hands of evil incarnate.

    I don't believe compassion for SAndusky eliminates any compassion for the victims and their families. Further, I don't think anyone has suggested that Sandusky shouldn't be kept away from children in general, nor that a prison sentence was too harsh.

    My point was that speaking in such black and white terms, in such judgmental and angry terms, makes it difficult to have a discussion about how to best address the problem and future victims, makes it difficult for some victims to speak up because while they want it to stop, they don't yet want the perp hated, and that it makes it difficult for perps to seek help.

    It feels good to be angry and judgmental about such horrible and damaging acts. I'm not sure it serves our interests, including the interests of the victims to withhold compassion (which is not the same as letting them off).
    Lucy

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