Monday, June 11, 2012

A page out of the Conservative Bible.

One of the great injustices of our times is how so many hateful groups in our history have used the words of Jesus Christ to support their equally hateful agenda or to condemn those whom they wish to subjugate.

I am of course not a religious person, but I can appreciate the words attributed to this historic individual and recognize how pained he would be to see how they have been twisted by those who claim to honor his memory.


  1. Anonymous3:18 AM

    The repubs. have ALWAYS been for the rich, they used to try to hide it better. Now, the Koch money plus other wealthy people backing them, they are showing their true selves. Any working class person who votes repub. HAS to be learning impaired, since their agenda is so very obvious. The repubs. in office hate the President so much, they childishly are letting the entire country fall apart. The richer they are, the deeper the racism, it seems. Not to mention that the repubs. are terrified of INTELLIGENT people who are not born rich.

    1. Anonymous5:35 AM

      Nope. They use racism to fuel others to side with them, because they wouldn't have the numbers otherwise. Cardboard cutouts like Rmoney have no passions either way. It's the "self-made" nouveau-iche and nouveau riche wanabes - talking to YOU Palin - who have to have someone lower on the totem pole to BULLY.

  2. Anonymous3:32 AM

    Gryph, I posted this before for you. I'm an atheist, taking the final step in large part because of the 2008 election and ridiculous abuse of religion to further hateful agendas. I'm as angry as anyone about the failure of Christians to speak out against the war on the poor and the hate directed to those who seek to feed the hungry and tend the sick.

    But perhaps true Christians don't receive the same press, don't have the same funding or power to purchase press coverage and the power of the airwaves? Aren't funded by the Koch brothers? Check out these links to read and hear what this pastor had to say about gay marriage, for example. Here are some brief quotes.

    " ... Gay and lesbian citizens did not cause the economic crash, foreclosures, and attack upon health care. Poor underfunded schools were not created because people desire equal protection under the law. We have much work to do as a community, and to claim the President of the United States must hold your theological position is absurd. He is President of the United States of America not the President of the Baptist convention or Bishop of the Sanctified or Holiness Church. He is called to protect the rights of Jew and Gentile, male and female, young and old, Gay and straight, black and white, Atheist and Agnostic. It should be noted the President offered no legislation, or executive order, or present an argument before the Supreme Court. He simply stated his personal conviction.

    If we dare steal away from the noise of this debate, we will realize as a church we are called to “Do justice, live mercy and walk humbly with God.” Gay people have never been the enemy; and when we use rhetoric to suggest they are the source of our problems we lie on God and cause tears to flow from the eyes of Christ....

    1. Anonymous5:13 AM

      Woot !

    2. Anonymous8:38 AM

      A pastor who actually lives, speaks and understands the true meaning of Christianity and the teachings of Jesus. Good for him. Speak Out, Speak More because...

      ...On the flip side, there are far too many so-called "christian" charlatans who ignore, twist, and bastardize the Bible and the teachings of Jesus for their own personal and monetary gain.

    3. Anita Winecooler7:24 PM

      I love it. "Obama was voted POTUS, not Preacher of The United States"

  3. Anonymous3:35 AM

    You know, it has always amazed me how the zealots can, on one hand, use their supposed love of God to torture the meaning of scripture, and on the other, seemingly not bother to consider that their spiritual arrogance might very well land them in the same hell reserved for the rest of us.

    Leave it to the Right to tell God how to love or punish His children.

  4. Carol3:52 AM

    I feel the same way as you state especially having Christian training the earllier years of my life where I was taught that god is love and to help thy brethren. I see these so called religious people who are in politics spouting the opposite of what I grew up with and it is extremely sickening that people in this country listen to those sickos.

  5. Anonymous5:33 AM

    And if you want more (as if that were necessary) evidence of the hypocrisy of the TeaTHUGlicans, the Jewish version of the Soddom and Gomorrah story stresses that the sin of the towns (no certain evidence found of their existence)emphasizes that the sin was not homosexuality, but inhospitality, a sin all over the Middle East.

    God I hate 'baggers.

    1. Anonymous8:32 AM

      Sodom & Gomorrah Film. Brimstone found and when lit burned bright blue. And tons of ash found. Start @17:00.

  6. Anonymous5:36 AM

    The word "anti" in Greek means "against" but it also means "opposite of" . So when I hear "anti-christ" I interpret it as "opposite of Christ".

    When Jesus foretold that many false prophets would come in his name, deceiving and seducing those that could be seduced, I have no doubt that these extreme "conservative" leaders and preachers are those very same false prophets. The extremist christians (small "c") are all waiting on pins and needles for the coming of the anti-christ without even considering for a moment that they are it.

    1. Anonymous9:50 AM

      Amen to that!

  7. WakeUpAmerica6:21 AM

    I totally agree, Gryphen. It is why I despise organized religion. Jesus's name has been hijacked for the pursuit of power and wealth.

  8. Nicely said, and good comments. Or as Mark Twain once asked: "If you were accused of being a Christian, would there be enough evidence to convict you?"

  9. Anonymous8:09 AM

    Y'all are aware, I hope, that there is an actual "Conservative Bible Project" underway, designed to "remove" all those liberal distortions.

    A lovely hit piece on it:

  10. The blue-eyed, super-white Jesus is almost laughable!


  11. Anonymous8:21 AM

    The Clergy Project is a very interesting development in human sociology and evolution.

    An Alternet article explains it and provides a link.

  12. Anonymous9:49 AM

    I get it--that's the blue eyed, red haired Jesus, not the real Jesus. The blue eyed one is not so nice but oh so handsome...

  13. Anonymous9:53 AM

    Matthew 7:15-23 (KJV)

    -Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
    -Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
    -Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
    -A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
    -Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
    -Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
    -Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
    -Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have case out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
    -And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

    I think that the some religious leaders want the money and power over all the people. I was unemployed and unable to work and without any food. So I went to the local food bank but I was turned away because I was not sponsored by a local church. I was told to go to Catholic charities. Throughout the years, I had given can food to that food bank. And I am not a member of any church. So, I went to the food stamp office and got emergency food stamps.

    There are religious leaders who want to abolish the separation of church and state. I think our government reflects love thy neighbor as thyself more than some religious leaders. Some GOP conservatives are now working to change state laws that look like the principalities of the Catholic Church, i.e., contraception and reproduction issues.

    This is a sad story about a little nine year old girl who was raped by her step father and the Vatican kicked the mother and doctors out of the church because an abortion was performed, but not the rapist.,8599,1883598,00.html

    And here's an article about the Heritage Foundation sticking up for violent sex offenders.

    1. Anita Winecooler7:17 PM

      thanks for your post, and links. They show the hypocrisy quite well.

      Our local "Christian" food bank, which many middle class people who used to give to and now depend upon, refused a very large donation of fresh "hilal" meat from a "hilal" butcher out of fear it was "poisoned by Muslims". If they did their research, it's basically the same kosher laws Jesus's religion followed.
      The meat, instead, was donated to the Zoo.

      And the wedge between one Faith's offer of doing good for others, and another which professes the same thing is driven deeper.

  14. Anita Winecooler7:02 PM

    Haven't read the comments yet, so this may be a repeat, but worth it.

    I thought this was some kind of joke, but googled it and it's a kind of "bible wikipedia", edited by RWNJ.

    Salon did an article on it as well with "the best of...."

    Though this does bother me on some level (and I'm Atheist), why aren't REAL Christians railing against it? This certainly falls under the category of "Blasphemy".

    Still crickets churping on the wackjob who lynched an effigy of President Obama from REAL Christians.

    I DID get a frantic phone call from my Fundamentalist Aunt, railing against the lyrics of Lady Gaga's songs "Loving Judas", "Black Jesus/Amen Fashion" on her album "Born This Way".

    I agree with Lady Gaga. She loves Judas though Jesus is her virtue. One can't help who one falls in love with, and Judas was forgiven for his betrayal, so what's the problem?

    Black Jesus is a statement that Jesus is Black. Who Cares? It's closer to believable than the white, blue eyed Jesus in Art.

    But most relevant, is "Amen Fashion", she makes the point of certain believers who "wear their religion" much like a fashion model on the runway. Once it's usefulness is done and the statement is made, off comes the "Amen Fashion", and they live their true lives, until they need to "make the statement" again.

    I'm neutral on Lady Gaga as an artist, but don't all pop artists push the envelope from time to time? She was alerted to this "blasphemy" by her pastor last Sunday.


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