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Tuesday, December 04, 2012
Lawrence O'Donnell brilliantly weighs in on the Bob Costas NFL shooting controversy.
Liberals with guns; that’s us, and we have an asshole next door who knows we have them, and it’s a good thing.
We’ve also had bears on the deck. If one was intent on breaking into the house (and many are when they smell cooking), we wouldn’t hesitate to shoot it. The sheriff prefers we let him do it, but understands.
Yes, it was not enlighteningin the least. It all ended with the old saw that the US has it's second amendment and that Americans have the right to bear their arms. In fact there was concensus on not doing anything to limit handgun access or even the number of handguns on the street. And the final word was that there should be a conversation on the issue.
Americans don't have the foggiest idea of what to do and certainly no will to do anything. And then you try to tout this as something worthwhile to talk about? Have a discussion? The NRA will be out campaigning to stop even having a discussion.
Likely it will take nothing short of a big gunfight on the streets of New York or Los Angeles where a hundred or more people are shot dead, to even get the conversation going!
It's too late. The best you Americans can do is buy yourself some guns to put under your pillows because it's got to the point at which you actually do need them. There is likely no reversing this course you have chosen. luv from Canada.
I agree with you. It's long overdue to have real discussions about how to control handguns and weapons that fire 6 or 20 rounds in less than a minute. We have had many shootings on college campuses,high schools, movie theaters, etc where many people have died and still nothing is done to stop the insanity! Wake up America! Guns are not the answer! There's not many people who have to hunt for food anymore when they can drive to the supermarket so why is there such a hangup on this! I can see guns for hunting, but I don't see hunters using a handgun or a rifle that shoots 20 rounds in less than minute! There would be nothing left of the moose if that's what they used!
So this gets 2 comments and nobody has the slightest idea of what to say or what could be a solution to the problem.
Between you and me, probably the only solution is for a lot of people to feel a lot of pain as the consequence of letting the gun problem get so far. Something like an orphanage being visited by a gun nut and a whole bunch of innocent children being slaughtered. It's really that bad and it's grown to be that ugly. That is the scale of the consequences that will need to be suffered before Americans will finally come to their senses. And if you don't like that idea then imagine something just as horrible.
Nothing anyone says is going to change things and win the day. You should see that by the lack of comments. And most likely, not only don't they have any ideas, they probably don't even care. Something has to happen to 'make' them care. Something really melodramatic that gets their attention right where they live, up close and personal. luv from Canada.
I too was shocked that there are only 3 comments on this, and 2 of them are your's! This is terrible! Once again, those gun enthusiasts have their heads stuck in a hole in the ground. To hell with the NRA! Let's get some guts and stop the insanity!
I don't think the number of comments is an issue. Gryphen, by posting this, is opening up the conversation and at least planting the seed in someone who may read it that there are valid reasons to have guns and use them responsibly.
It's not that Americans don't know squat about guns, the second amendment, gun culture, the NRA, drugs, crime, self defense, road rage, militias target practice, sports shooting, responsible gun ownership, hunting and some random douchebags leaving unlocked loaded guns where kids can find them and blow their brains out. I live in the suburbs of a major city on the east coast where straw laws allow deranged people to buy semiautomatic rifles and pistols at gun shows in other states, with fake id's or no id at all, no background checks- then bring them in illegally.
The police can't have this type of weapon but these towheads, thugs, and wannabe cops can and do. Bears and wildlife are usually handled by the police or relocated by animal control, but sightings are rare in the city. We had three brown bears in my area in the past 20 years.
We do need to address this problem somehow. I don't think more guns help in any way, even in situations like the Aurora Shootings and Gabby Giffords.
I don't think "attention getting events" like mass killings at nursery schools, changes the gun culture problem. I think we need more discussion and education about conflict resolution techniques from a very early age. We need to help people with mental illness feel secure enough to seek and get help, and we desperately need to address domestic violence.
Liberals with guns; that’s us, and we have an asshole next door who knows we have them, and it’s a good thing.
ReplyDeleteWe’ve also had bears on the deck. If one was intent on breaking into the house (and many are when they smell cooking), we wouldn’t hesitate to shoot it. The sheriff prefers we let him do it, but understands.
Should everyone be armed? No.
Yes, it was not enlighteningin the least. It all ended with the old saw that the US has it's second amendment and that Americans have the right to bear their arms. In fact there was concensus on not doing anything to limit handgun access or even the number of handguns on the street. And the final word was that there should be a conversation on the issue.
ReplyDeleteAmericans don't have the foggiest idea of what to do and certainly no will to do anything. And then you try to tout this as something worthwhile to talk about? Have a discussion? The NRA will be out campaigning to stop even having a discussion.
Likely it will take nothing short of a big gunfight on the streets of New York or Los Angeles where a hundred or more people are shot dead, to even get the conversation going!
It's too late. The best you Americans can do is buy yourself some guns to put under your pillows because it's got to the point at which you actually do need them. There is likely no reversing this course you have chosen.
luv from Canada.
I agree with you. It's long overdue to have real discussions about how to control handguns and weapons that fire 6 or 20 rounds in less than a minute. We have had many shootings on college campuses,high schools, movie theaters, etc where many people have died and still nothing is done to stop the insanity! Wake up America! Guns are not the answer! There's not many people who have to hunt for food anymore when they can drive to the supermarket so why is there such a hangup on this! I can see guns for hunting, but I don't see hunters using a handgun or a rifle that shoots 20 rounds in less than minute! There would be nothing left of the moose if that's what they used!
DeleteSo this gets 2 comments and nobody has the slightest idea of what to say or what could be a solution to the problem.
ReplyDeleteBetween you and me, probably the only solution is for a lot of people to feel a lot of pain as the consequence of letting the gun problem get so far. Something like an orphanage being visited by a gun nut and a whole bunch of innocent children being slaughtered. It's really that bad and it's grown to be that ugly. That is the scale of the consequences that will need to be suffered before Americans will finally come to their senses. And if you don't like that idea then imagine something just as horrible.
Nothing anyone says is going to change things and win the day. You should see that by the lack of comments. And most likely, not only don't they have any ideas, they probably don't even care.
Something has to happen to 'make' them care. Something really melodramatic that gets their attention right where they live, up close and personal.
luv from Canada.
I too was shocked that there are only 3 comments on this, and 2 of them are your's! This is terrible! Once again, those gun enthusiasts have their heads stuck in a hole in the ground. To hell with the NRA! Let's get some guts and stop the insanity!
DeleteI don't think the number of comments is an issue. Gryphen, by posting this, is opening up the conversation and at least planting the seed in someone who may read it that there are valid reasons to have guns and use them responsibly.
ReplyDeleteIt's not that Americans don't know squat about guns, the second amendment, gun culture, the NRA, drugs, crime, self defense, road rage, militias target practice, sports shooting, responsible gun ownership, hunting and some random douchebags leaving unlocked loaded guns where kids can find them and blow their brains out.
I live in the suburbs of a major city on the east coast where straw laws allow deranged people to buy semiautomatic rifles and pistols at gun shows in other states, with fake id's or no id at all, no background checks- then bring them in illegally.
The police can't have this type of weapon but these towheads, thugs, and wannabe cops can and do. Bears and wildlife are usually handled by the police or relocated by animal control, but sightings are rare in the city. We had three brown bears in my area in the past 20 years.
We do need to address this problem somehow. I don't think more guns help in any way, even in situations like the Aurora Shootings and Gabby Giffords.
I don't think "attention getting events" like mass killings at nursery schools, changes the gun culture problem. I think we need more discussion and education about conflict resolution techniques from a very early age. We need to help people with mental illness feel secure enough to seek and get help, and we desperately need to address domestic violence.