Monday, December 31, 2012

Over the cliff we go! There will be NO vote on deal tonight. Update: Not so fast.

Courtesy of Politico:

Washington inched closer to a deal that would avert massive tax increases, but Congress will still fall short of passing legislation before a new year deadline, sending the country over the fiscal cliff at least temporarily as the two sides struggled to iron out the final details of a high-stakes package. 

The main holdup right now: Automatic spending cuts poised to kick in during the year, which the two parties have vowed to reverse but have failed to broker an agreement over how to do just that. 

Last-ditch negotiations between Senate Majority Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Vice President Joe Biden — friends from two decades-plus of Senate service — produced an agreement to increase marginal income tax rates to 39.6 percent on individual income more than $400,000 and households that earn more than $450,000.

You know the conservative talking heads over at Fox and the Right Wing radio shock jocks are going to do their damnedest to blame this on the President, but there is NO way that he deserves any of the blame for the failings of Congress. THAT blame rests solely on the Republicans and the teabagging obstructionists that are now apparently in the driver's seat.

The President has worked night and day to make a deal, and reached out twice to the American people to help him.  He even caved in on the amount to be taxed, moving from the promised $250,000 and above to $450,000 and above.

That resulted in getting him into a LOT of hot water with the liberals, and I am not very damn happy about it either, but I will say this, the man has done EVERYTHING he could to keep this potential crisis from occurring, and I hope that the American people are aware of that and make sure to blame the appropriate individuals.

Here's a hint, there is an "R" next to their name, and they care MORE about getting reelected than about any of YOU people.

Update: Well believe it or not, it looks like some patched together deal has been reached and there is talk of a possible vote tonight.  Here is more from Ezra Klein:

President Obama and Senate Republicans reached a sweeping deal late Monday that would let income taxes rise significantly for the first time in more than two decades, fulfilling Obama’s promise to raise taxes on the rich and averting the worst effects of the “fiscal cliff.” 

Vice President Biden arrived at the Capitol just after 9 p.m. to explain the details of the pact he negotiated with Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.). A Senate vote on the package could be held by 10:30 p.m., beating a midnight deadline, Democratic aides said. The Republican-controlled House will begin considering the bill on Tuesday, with a final vote expected in the next day or two. 

The agreement emerged after White House officials gave in on the last contested issue, yielding to GOP wishes on how to handle estate taxes, aides said. 

The revelations about the pending deal came after Obama had said a pact was “within sight,” and House Republican leaders announced they would hold no votes Monday night, making it appear that that the nation would go over the fiscal cliff for at least a day. 

I can't say I am happy about the White House giving anymore ground, but again it definitely speaks to who is the most serious about getting a deal done before tomorrow.

I am also hearing from various reporters that this is only a temporary fix and does NOT indicate how the final deal may look. I guess we have to hold out final judgement until then.

35 comments:

  1. Anonymous1:38 PM

    John McCain blathered on the Senate floor about what he didn't like about the President's speech today. It was comical, as if anyone cares what John McCain thinks is proper behavior for a president. John McCain picked a stunningly unqualified VEEP candidate in Sarah Palin. Not THAT is what is not presidential.

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    1. Anonymous3:33 PM

      All I could keep thinking as he was blathering on was "will someone change this old bastards diaper already!"

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  2. Anonymous1:42 PM

    Typical of the Rethuglicans -- they look for anything for an excuse to reflect the blame away from themselves and the new one is the speech of Obama's this afternoon ridiculing the Rethugs.

    The Rethug morons should go suck an egg -- a bad one. They've left a bad taste in everyone's mouth -- time for them to get a taste of their own hate and stupidity by way of a rancid egg!! They never had a plan to agree with this and will find anything for an excuse to blame anyone but themselves. Typical -- as we've seen the bitch from Wasilla and every other Rethug do it forever.

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    1. Anonymous4:17 PM

      President Obama thought he would be dealing with ADULTS. The gop act like spoiled kids. I hope their constituents are paying attention, and remember this fiasco when voting time rolls around.

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  3. Virginia Voter1:43 PM

    Well, here in DC the big news is the Redskins winning the NFC east, the fiscal cliff barely gets a mention. The world won't end because republicans are assholes.

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    1. Pat in MA3:12 PM

      We've survived this long with them being idiots. We go over the cliff, they get the (well deserved) blame, and the pendulum swings back with the next midterms.

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  4. Anonymous1:50 PM

    I knew we were going off the cliff because of those teabagger nut-jobs....

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  5. Anonymous1:55 PM

    I detest the Republicans in Congress and sincerely hope they lose their positions in the next election cycle of 2014.

    President Obama is doing what the American people elected him to do!

    FOX didn't succeed in trying to keep our President from being reelected and they won't succeed in him being blamed for this mess in Congress. The Republicans are nothing more than obstructionist and could care less about the people that put them in their offices. Vote them OUT!

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  6. 2014 is a coming; 2014 is a coming. Lordy, I can hear the cries and moans as the Repubs get a further ass-kicking from an aware electorate.

    Time to fire up the engines again. we need to rid this country of the dead weight of hypocrisy.

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    1. From your lips to God's ears, Crystal Sage.

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  7. Anonymous2:21 PM

    Did you notice that they waited until after the markets closed to announced that the House wouldn't be taking a vote? That's because if they had made that announcement at noon, the markets would have crashed and they would have had pressure to do something by their corporate overlords and if their corporate overlords wanted them to do something well...then...they would have to do it, wouldn't they? This way, they have tomorrow to get something and they can try to make it look like Obama was the bad guy (Oh, they couldn't take a vote because the House GOP was all atitter about Obama's eee-vil talking to on Sunday!)

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  8. Anonymous2:23 PM

    O was always going with the $400k number. He just started at $250k to negotiate.

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    1. Anonymous8:26 PM

      To be honest, I don't mind the $400k number, and I'm far under the $250. I think he started low too.

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  9. OT: Toad's bro splits from wife after 12 years. More to follow, I'm sure. But not from me. Gotta get started on those bottles of bubbly.

    Happy New Year!

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  10. Pat in MA3:17 PM

    It's all a bunch of BS, we're going over the cliff, we were always going to go over the cliff, so the Republicans could then claim they were voting for tax cuts (so tired of how stupid they think we all are). Let's move on to the next manufactured crisis, whatever that may be, if I hear 'fiscal cliff' one.more.time... Sometimes I wonder how we're 'the greatest nation on earth' with our totally dysfunctional politics and our guns...

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    1. Anonymous3:24 PM

      In case you haven't noticed that "greatest nation on earth" title hasn't been true for quite some time.

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    2. Anonymous4:20 PM

      W and his cohorts took care of THAT!!

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  11. Anonymous3:20 PM

    Followup to My Resignation: Things Can - And Must - CHANGE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZg4Wr3-l0k

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  12. Anonymous3:23 PM

    None of it really matters. The media has made it a "thing".

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  13. Anonymous3:30 PM

    Top 10 Ways Obama Made Liberals Proud In 2012

    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/12/31/top-10-ways-obama-made-liberals-proud-in-2012/

    12 Worst Republican Blunders Of 2012

    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/12/31/12-worst-republican-blunders-of-2012/

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  14. Anonymous3:32 PM

    Obama’s Top 35 Accomplishments – Looking Back On A Historic Presidency (So Far)

    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/12/30/obamas-top-35-accomplishments-looking-back-on-an-historic-presidency/

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  15. Caroll P. Thompson, CPA3:39 PM

    This is complete and utter bullshit G. We shall see what happens when the markets open on Wednesday, but I predict a fall; perhaps even the 10% necessary to cause the stock markets to close.

    I don't say this often; I am not sure I have ever said it before, but I will say it now; GOD DAMN THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS.

    As you may know by now G, I am a big believer in the Big Fellow up there and I don't say that lightly. And if I may, I would like to say it again.

    GOD DAMN THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS.

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  16. Caroll P. Thompson, CPA3:50 PM

    Hey G, I just have to mention the farm bill which the God Damn House Republicans will also fail to pass before it expires at midnight tonight. Without any bill, the subsidies for dairy farmers paid by the government will revert to 1949 levels with inflation. That means that all dairy farmers can sell their milk to the government for double what they are getting now. This also means that consumers can expect to pay a lot more for milk in the next few weeks because of these clowns that I will hereafter forever refer to as the GOD DAMN HOUSE REPUBLICANS.

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  17. You know...we'll all be here tomorrow and the next day and the next just like we were at the Millennium and the Mayan end of the world, and every other damn hysterical bullshit cockamamie idea brought to you by idiots who have nothing better to do.

    As for me I'm going with friends to see The Hobbit tonight followed by champagne and fireworks, and I wish you all a VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    (I don't get to use all those exclamation points very often...enjoy.)

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  18. Sharon4:28 PM

    I for one will never in my lifetime vote for another republican, even for dog catcher....they are all traitors. Even the decent ones don't count as they refuse to stand up to the teabaggers, they lied and went to DC to obstruct everything. They are a cancer to this nation and the debt ceiling fight is gonna be even worse. They whine about Obama not kissing ass by inviting them for all kinds of social krap when he works his ass off all day and wants to spend what little free time he has with his young family. They are bastards...one and all, and he must hold back the deep contempt he feels in how they are taking our hard earned money for their salary while they do nothing but harm us. Damn I hate them all.

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  19. Anonymous4:34 PM

    Farm Bill was passed/extended last night; Google it.

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  20. Oh, gawk.

    What is he giving in on inheritance tax? That's one of the main points that needed revising.

    Every time I hear about a compromise or an agreement I automatically assume Obama has given something else up. And not in a good way.

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  21. Anonymous5:53 PM

    Finally good news for the dipshit of Wasilla.

    Sarah Palin doesn't have to worry about a tax increase since she will be unemployed Jan 1,2013.

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    1. Anonymous7:14 PM

      Did you hear her contract with Faux was not renewed? Do you have a link? TIA

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  22. Anonymous5:56 PM

    BREAKING NEWS!

    WTF IS WRONG WITH THE PALIN FAMILY VALUES?

    ANOTHER PALIN DIVORCE!

    Sarah Palin's son, Track Palin, isn't the only member of the family who is calling it quits on his marriage.

    Palin Divorce: Sarah Palin's Sister-In-Law, Wendy, Splits From Husband (REPORT)

    According to TMZ, her sister-in-law Wendy separated from husband James Palin in July after 12 years of marriage. James and Todd Palin -- Sarah Palin's husband -- are brothers.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/31/palin-divorce-sarah-palin_n_2388970.html

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  23. Anonymous6:00 PM

    Another Palin divorce? A lot of divorces in the Palin family. Maybe the Palins should write a How To Divorce book instead of a fitness book?

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  24. Anonymous6:03 PM

    According to TMZ, her sister-in-law Wendy separated from husband James Palin in July after 12 years of marriage. James and Todd Palin -- Sarah Palin's husband -- are brothers.


    YOUR TURN TODD...... YOU GOT A FEW HOURS LEFT IN 2012!

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  25. Chenagrrl6:21 PM

    Anybody seen that git, Don Young. Is he even in Washington? I don't trust the House any farther than i could throw Eric Cantor. This does not feel right.

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  26. Anonymous10:45 PM

    About 2am, Senate voted 89-8 to pass the bill. For all of Obama's statements about everyone has to give, the Dems gave very, very little. The House TGopers are already freaking out and threatening not to approve it, but such an overwhelming Senate vote really puts the pressure on the party of "No".

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  27. Anonymous2:46 AM

    Here's more: http://www.politicususa.com/happy-year-republicans-obama-cleaned-clock-fiscal-cliff.html

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