Sunday, January 13, 2013

A picture is worth a thousand words, but sometimes those words are misleading. Sally Heath and the "terrorists" edition.

Way back in December of 2011 I posted the picture below.

The picture had been sent to me by FBI informant Bill Fulton, who had found it among his things and thought I would like to post it.

Of course at the time Bill was still deeply in the FBI witness protection program and did not want to be identified as one of the people in the picture, nor did he want his then employee or the name of his business revealed either. Which is why they have been fuzzed out.

At the time he and I both thought that it was kind of telling that this woman, the mother of the Governor of Alaska, would feel so comfortable surrounded by assault weapon toting strangers. But clearly she was.

Now what neither Bill nor I knew at the time was that there was another version of this picture already posted on the internet, which you, my tenacious little pain in the asses, found.

So here was a picture that clearly showed the name of Bill's business, Drop Zone, his face, and the face of the employee who had NO idea that Fulton was working for the Feds or that he would some day be tied to militias and terrorists organizations.

Some of you may remember that on that day I ignored repeated requests to confirm that it WAS Fulton, or to elaborate on where I got the photo, because at the time I really couldn't say anything.

I contacted Bill and told him what had happened, and surprisingly he thought it was funny, and laughed it off.

I asked him if he knew that the picture was already posted and he said no, in fact he only had a vague recollection of some woman handing it to him and telling him he might like to have a copy of it.

This was fairly early in our interactions and the only thing that Fulton cared about was that I had kept my promise to keep his name out of it and protect his anonymity, which I had.

So now that there are no more secrets to keep let's be clear about what this picture shows.

Sally Heath is actually NOT standing with two militia members or terrorists. She is standing with two guys running a booth at a Tea Party event in Wasilla. So let's put that to rest right now.

However now the question remains, who did she THINK she was posing with, and WHY she would have felt it appropriate to pose with them? This was NOT a picture that Bill asked to be taken, this is a picture that Sally Heath WANTED to pose for.

So though in reality there may have been nothing terribly scandalous about the picture, there are in fact some rather interesting things to take away from its existence.

Don't you agree?


  1. Anonymous6:26 AM

    it IS early, but that would be "edition" in the headline.

    1. You know it IS early. This was the first thing I typed out this morning.


    2. Anonymous2:12 PM

      You're welcome. Thank YOU for being gracious about it.

  2. Anonymous6:32 AM

    Bill Fulton was a trusted friend of Eddie Burke; he still likes him. Eddie is a good friend and good man, of the Heaths. The woman who innocently posted this picture on her blog is a good friend of Sally. With all those innocent friendships, why is this a conundrum?

    1. Anonymous7:32 AM


    2. Anonymous9:23 AM

      Since you brought Eddie Burke into the conversation, is he a "friend" to R. Mansour? I always found the murder of Ronni Chasen very troubling and the investigation "incomplete". Eddie just happened to be in the same flea bag hotel lobby when the bicycle-riding assassin committed "suicide"

    3. Anonymous10:05 AM

      Why so defensive?

      Like you, the Palins and Heaths are terrible poker players.

    4. Anonymous10:53 AM

      especially when they're losing good money chasing that inside straight that never comes.

    5. Tracey is a Past President of the Valley Republican Women's Club - she knows the Heath's & Palin's personally as well as through the organization. She also knows Parnell, Coberg, Don Young, etc. So let's dispense with the BS straight-away.

      The photographer - Tracey - knows Burke THROUGH the Heath's and Palins. And you are trying to extract latent feelings of betrayal in Fulton for Burke. Lemme tell ya - that's a major FAIL.

      "...who did she THINK she was posing with, and WHY she would have felt it appropriate to pose with them? This was NOT a picture that Bill asked to be taken, this is a picture that Sally Heath WANTED to pose for...".

      She thought she was posing with her radical thinking cronies previously-approved militia members, if not just the friendly neighborhood militia-sympathetic arms dealer and his employee. This get-together is a celebration of the Mat-Su Valley tea party elites. She's saying "I align myself with these types of people and their mission. I support their cause."

      Photos can sway thoughts and feelings as well as convey messages: perhaps Sally wanted to confirm her status in the local Tea Party and the militia's. Because nothing says "I am empowered, and I belong with these people" like a couple of guys holding assault weapons on either side of you!!

      And quite simply, lots of folks like taking a photo with celebs or people of notoriety. She wanted to be able to possibly say "Look at me!! These are my kind of people! Notice me / I know these people / I'm a bad-ass / be in awe of me / fear me / these guys have my back" etc.

      We got the message, Sally. So did The Company...

      - KAO

    6. Anonymous2:06 PM

      Sally was not proud to be sandwiched between two hunters, THOSE ARE ASSAULT WEAPONS. Made to kill and maim humans. That is what Sally is proud to be representing. Symbolizing the future slaughter of human beings. These groups constantly attack and threaten fellow Americans and elected officials that were voted in by the citizens of our country.

      Sally Heath is as treasonous, lowlife hater and unpatriotic as any of the others in these groups. She is also showing the world she is proud of herself and what she represents in her picture with the big guns.

      Sally did not know what the FBI was doing. Just like now the Palins don't have a clue. They clearly believe that their own blood would never turn on them. They are only as strong as their weakest link.

    7. Anonymous2:16 PM

      Or, perhaps Sally (or someone else) wanted photo evidence that these types agreed with/were friends of her and her associates, complicit in their ideology, with which proof that complicity which could not later be denied?

    8. KAO,
      Excellent job picking apart the effort at disinfo by the Palin lackey.

      With the monumental effort that writer put into shrouding the truth, you'd think that his job and meal allowance is on the line.

      Sounds to me like Sarah is walking around with her brother's tiny shriveled balls in her purse as well as those formerly owned by her pimping pockfaced husband.

    9. Bottom line: its really, really simple.

      You're judged by the company you keep. Birds of a feather flock together.

      Why? Its a reflection of who you really are.

      - KAO

  3. Anonymous6:38 AM

    Wow. Way to further make a mountain out of a molehill dude. This is like when righties obsessively posted that picture of Obama holding a book titled something like "living in a post american world."

    There are good people who were chummy with Bill Fulton and still respect him, though I can't say what their feelings are about his undercover work. I can say the people you're maliciously trying to malign do not advocate violence or the idea of a bloody revolution democrats feel ALL republicans want. Sometimes, it's just cool to take a picture with one of your friend's friends. Notice that only a FEW of the tea partiers were at trial for actual crimes. Do you know how many tea partiers there are in Alaska? Do you know that Sally and her group ARENT in actuality in that group? The teapartiers are not the same as that Republican women's club. Just because there is an outdoor gathering doesn't make every single person of the same mentality. Why do you feel you are mindreaders?

    The power of suggestion is a bad thing and ruins good character.

    Again, is THIS different from pictures republicans distort of Obama, like the book/tarmac one? NOPE.

    The propaganda needs to end. The ignorant judgments need to cease .

    1. Anonymous7:28 AM

      6:38 AM 'DON'T RETREAT, RELOAD' does not intimate a 'Call To Arms'? Killing of Prostitutes is not violent? Pimping is one of the most violent acts in life. Come clean with the Sex Trafficking, 'KNOW IT ALL'. Explain all of the FIRES connected to the Heaths and Palins. Explain all of the SECRECY surrounding the Palin BIRTHS. The IGNORANCE is in your Camp.

    2. Anonymous7:37 AM

      You must be the Heath/Palin Paid Propaganda Machine. The Palins have always evaded the TRUTH, so your equating PRESIDENT OBAMA(YOUR PRESIDENT) with the Heaths/ Palins makes no sense. Explain why Todd is a PIMP. CRICKETS?

    3. @ 6:38: You forgot to mention that your 'esteemed leader' made a fat living trying to guilt the President by association...... Another case of IOKIYAR??? When we make a similar 'leap', your panties get wadded? Yep, IOKIYAR.

    4. Anonymous8:54 AM

      looks like creepie chucky jr's here for the day, must be his turn again in the palin/heath trolling rotation

    5. Anonymous9:21 AM

      Oh G...looks like some toes got stepped on!
      Way to go!!! Can't wait until Bill's "Q & A" tomorrow!!
      Dance sarah Dance!!!

    6. Anonymous9:27 AM

      Did Chuck Jr ever partake of his brother-in-law's services?

    7. Anonymous10:08 AM

      Cry, baby, cry....

    8. Anonymous10:45 AM

      9:27 AM
      Jr. was busy hitting on young meat at an elementary school. This family is creepy beyond belief. He broke up his family with two sons for his arrangement with young knocked up teacher. Sad story.

    9. Anonymous3:20 PM

      I don't hear Chuck2 or any minion denying that he took advantage of his position as an older employee at that school where he impregnated a younger person. He is so bad they won't even try to lie and cover up for him. Not so much as an excuse. SILENCE IS VERY INTERESTING.

    10. Anonymous3:26 PM

      Damn, Creepy Chuckie Jr was up EARLY this morning to try to cover the tracks and throw the scent off the trail.

      Fortunately, it's Granny Grifter, so we don't have to have her in our sight line since her notorious aversion to hygiene betrays its putrid source. Yes, even in winter, so no blaming her malodorous condition to sweating.

      Did Bady give fat boy a wake-up call with orders to get his ass in gear, deflecting the truth? Or is the philandering father of two (oops, make that three now after knocking up the young co-worker) , Creepy Chuckie, Jr, still having a problem sleeping because he realizes that his meal ticket and seat on the family grift-wagon is being threatened by the truth?

      Either way, them Heaths is acting like they seen them a ghost, and they's runnin' scared. Gotta love it. Boo!!! Run Fat Boy!

    11. Anonymous5:16 PM


      "FAT BOY" , exactly

      LMAO !!!

  4. Anonymous6:39 AM

    Can we talk about how Sally looks? Or...not so much how Sally looks as the fact that her daughter, who's about 20-25 years younger, is so haggard that she practically looks the same age?

    1. Anonymous7:21 AM

      Sarah looks the same age as Sally, only the Meth has taken over.

    2. Anonymous10:15 AM

      When I first saw that photo, I wondered why Gryphen was posting the best photo of Sarah Palin since 2008. The lady in the photo looked robust and healthy in comparison to the Sarah train wreck on Fox. When I learned it was Sally Heath, I was shocked.

      Sarah looks like Sally´s grandmother.

      E-mail anyone who is not on top of Sarah´s shenanigans a current photo of her. They will not recognize Sarah.

  5. Anonymous6:42 AM

    Most people I've met, esp Alaskans, are not wusses around guns. Sally H STILL hunts, in her 70s.

    Why is this an oddity? Sally's friend, the photographer, obviously knew of Billyboy. Sally probably knew of him through friendly connections and trusted him. HINT Eddie Burke, who wrote around the time of the Fulton arrest, "I maintain respect for Bill even today." Don't exaggerate innocent connections.

    1. Anonymous10:18 AM


    2. Anonymous1:15 PM

      When you use the word "wusses," you automatically lose.

    3. Anita Winecooler6:54 PM

      Stop with the hunting septogenarian bullshit- Sarah learned all her "hunting prowess" while someone off camera finally shot the heavily sedated moose on her failed reality show.

      The only thing Sallie "hunts" is the lens.

    4. And the only thing that Sarah hunts is her flask of vodka, whenever she flies into a rage and forgets where she left 'granny's medicine'.

      This always occurs whenever Sarah is quoted correctly (verbatim) in the "Lamestream Media", or when she's mad about having her hypocrisy pointed out by bloggers. She hates to be reminded that it is SARAH who exploits her family by being on direct dial at TMZ and selling photos to entertainment rags, but she still has the nerve to whine and complain about trying to live a "private life" while claiming the media won't leave her alone, all the while doing all she can do to generate attention from the press to her diminished brand.

  6. Anonymous6:47 AM

    Aside from this, has she even attended tea party meetings? Sally's group is the republicans club and it is popular amongst 30-40 yr old moms who just want good change. I've never seen any of them apart of the teapartiers. There are videos of tea party meetings in the valley. They are two different groups. But there are connections. Eddie, who ran for Lt Gov, was friends with Bill, and around the arrest, he defended him. The photographer/woman who posted the picture, and Sally would know OF Bill Fulton.

    I think you're just baffled that most people feel comfortable around guns. Remember, tea partiers, even in AK, ARENT violent. They were FAR cleaner and more peaceful than the people at Rally for Change with Colbert etc.

    1. Anonymous7:19 AM

      6:47 AM Your head is so far up the Palins'/Heaths' Butts, that your views are inconsequential. As for violence, are Dar Miller, Curtis Menard, Matsu Dairy fire,and the Kolvig's boat included?

    2. Anonymous9:45 AM

      I was at the Rally for Change. It was the most peaceful, spontaneously fun meeting up of hundreds of thousands of people from all over the world.
      I wonder why that is your mime on this thread? Must have been frantically googling to find some sort of dirt on the left and came up with a lame misdirected nugget of nonsense to spout about.

    3. Anita Winecooler6:51 PM

      Remember, teabagger, also, too, has two meanings! 1)member of the putrid "taxed enough already" party of bigoted willful ignoramuses who call themselves "patriots"
      and 2)Urban Dictionary is your friend!

  7. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

    1. Anonymous11:00 PM

      Sometimes a cigar explodes.

  8. Okay since Eddie Burke's name has been raised let me just say that Burke is an incredibly nasty piece of work, who left harassing phone calls with the superintendent of schools, and revealed personal phone numbers while encouraging his listeners to harass women whose opinion he did not agree with.

    He eventually was fired after he had made some truly horrific and insensitive remarks on his radio program, and after he had carried Sarah Palin's water for her for years.

    Good riddance to bad garbage.

    And by the way the Tea Party and Alaska Republican party are essentially the same entity these days.

    1. Gryphen, thanks for keeping us in the loop on this amazing story. Can't wait until Monday's update!

      Your comment about Burke piqued my curiosity so I took a moment to re-visit your earlier posts about him (via the label to the right). What a truly vile individual.

      I find it fascinating to look back at pre-election 2008 and review the Palin phenomenon from the (comforting) perspective of knowing President Obama will be in the White House for four more years.

      We've been saying this for four plus years, but sometimes I'm just gobsmacked all over again about McCain's selfish and cynical VP choice. Did we dodge a bullet or what? Crikey.

      PS... C&L covers Burke back in 2008:

    2. " ... he had carried Sarah Palin's water for her for years."

      OMG ! THAT'S how Sarah could give birth 25 hours after her water broke ---> Todd carried it for her !!!!

    3. Anonymous3:45 PM

      Hey Dog. You're right about those buckets of water getting heavy for Sarah's friends and family.

      That dim-witted father of hers- I believe you all refer to him as 'Creepy Chucky, Sr' here at IM ( I love it!!!) - didn't even make it through the last weekend of April, 2008 before blowing their 'Wild Ride' cover story for her fake pregnancy.

      I'm glad to see that people are are finally dishing on Sarah and her cronies/kin. Not because I give a damn about any of them or what they've done, but because it's refreshing to see when folks recognize a bunch of thieves and crooks for what that family really has been for so long, and that people are no longer intimated by them.

      There's lots more.

      Friend of the Family

    4. Cracklin Charlie8:26 PM

      How did Chuckles blow the cover story, Friend?

    5. Anonymous10:52 PM

      3:45 PM It will be healing for Alaska and the nation to finally open up the floodgates on the entire slime syndicate created around Palin. A Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) is necessary to end the pain and misery they have inflicted.

      Is the brother the best they could come up with to handle the latest damage control?

    6. Anonymous11:51 PM

      Creepy Senior running off at the mouth to an AK reporter (ADN, IIRC) that Sarah's water had broken down in Texas. Sarah at that point was deliberstely being as vague as possible with no details, but she got sucked into talking about it. "Well, if you must know things of such a personal nature ... Blah blah blah"

  9. jcinco7:00 AM

    Was Fulton not then working undercover to infiltrate subversive groups? Was he not widely known as the guy to go to for assault type weapons? Didn't these domestic terrorists types figure Bill was the guy to go to when they needed more firearms? Something tells me sally heath was well aware of this and had no problem palling around with someone she perceived to be part of that circle most of us would consider domestic terrorists. The picture could just as well have been her hugging schaeffer cox, I'm sure it would make no difference to her. I find Bill Fulton to be an American hero for what he did. I also feel that when he was undercover, playing the role, shall we say, he could certainly be described as one who palled around with domestic terrorists and to even be considered to be one of them. Fulton has nothing to be ashamed of. Anyone who has an issue with him merely needs to google "OKC, baby girl Bailey & fireman picture" to put things in proper perspective. These domestic terrorists are every bit as dangerous as AQ terrorists. Sally Heath deserves no pass on this picture, she might be as dimwitted as her daughter but she certainly knew what kind of people she was cosying up to.

    1. Exactly. Sally slept with dogs, and got up with a bad case of flea bites.

      She knew what he represented when she stood willingly at his side for a photo.

      - KAO

    2. Anonymous4:03 PM

      Like her half-ass, half term daughter, Sally is proud of her own ignorance, but too clever by half to lay low all the time.

      But it didn't matter all that much because Sarah has enjoyed a Teflon veneer due to her cronyism. It's going to be interesting since Sarah has become a pariah, or as i read here the other day, persona non Greta. ha ha ha

      I haven't noticed her on Fox News in quite a while. Did she quit that, also, too, or did Roger Ailes finally give up on the word salad tosser and just fire her bony ass?

  10. Anonymous7:03 AM

    Wow the bots have sure found this post early. What a fantasy world they live in, where their queen is not a world-wide laughingstock.

  11. Anonymous7:07 AM

    A. Alaskans are generally comfortable around guns. Note that that is a woman who's hunted for 50 years.

    B. The average tea partier in Alaska is not violent. Sally was surrounded by friends, and friends who are in her VWR club thingy. Note: she and them are not actually tea partiers.

    C. I recall Phil Munger saying Sarah et al have nothing to do with the inner workings of the tea party movement there. I mean, I've never seen any of them present or even heard TP events being talked about amongst them. The 2 groups are separate when it comes down to meetings etc.

    Those are just some observations. This post is reminiscent of a far righty post trying to distort pictures of Obama or a lefty just because they're sitting next to whats his face from Chicago who was slammed for selling O's senate seat, or holding books, or looking angry.

    Sometimes, a picture is just a picture and a photographer just wants a photo with 2 peaceful patriots at a function. Aside from S Cox and crew, are there any violent happenings related to these people?


    Don't crap on a large group just because of a few bad apples who let things go to their heads, like Cox.
    Look at how peaceful that is? Compare this, a common rally, to the brouhaha, clusterfuck of a liberal rally in DC. The rally of Colbert that left the Mall trashed.

    Who's more respectful?

    1. Anonymous7:31 AM

      One again, you use the word "patriots." There's nothing "patriotic" about the tea party, or the republican party for that matter.

      Don't group together a whole state of people. You really have this weird romantic view of Alaska and Alaskans. It's all part of your obsession with the Palins and the Heaths.

      If Sally wanted a picture of herself with those two guys and it had nothing to do with her support of the tea party, then it's because she thought it would be fun to be sandwiched by two big guys with two big guns. (that sounds dirty, but what I mean is that she has a gun fetish, just like her husband).

    2. Anonymous7:41 AM

      D. Shailey Tripp author of Boys Will Be Boys told her story of how the governor of Alaska's husband Todd Palin pimped her out as well as sampled her goods without paying her for it.

    3. jcinco8:38 AM

      go wash your hair, sarah...

    4. Anonymous8:41 AM

      Your "B" should be for Bullcrap. If teapartiers are not "violent" why the need to carry weapons to a get together and carryon like mental retards about "second amendment remedies"?

    5. Anonymous9:57 AM


      that'd be fuk_tard boi creepie chuck jr @ 7:07 , $carah's more 'n likely been catatonic for a few daze now

    6. Anonymous10:25 AM

      7:07, why are you lecturing Gryphen, an Alaskan citizen, with your fantasy dreamed up from the fumes of your bedpan in Rhode Island?

    7. Anonymous11:48 AM

      @ Anonymous 7:07 AM

      patriots = subversives

      go ask Alice

    8. Anita Winecooler6:42 PM

      You need to update your GPS, you missed "Batshit Boulevard" at (A) with the statement about "Alaskans" and "that woman" "hunting" for "50" years.

  12. Anonymous7:48 AM

    Sally and Chuck Heath have been riding Sarah Palin's coat tail since......I don't know how long, because I didn't follow Alaska news when Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla or when she was elected governor. But I'll bet that are dozens of photos of Sally and Chuck Heath posing with anyone, proudly labeling the photo, parents of Mayor Palin or Parents of Governor Palin. If you put their names into Google Images, there are pages of them posing with anyone and everyone who they met along the campaign trail, book signings, or any other event.

    I have never seen photos of my governor's parents. In fact, I don't know what his kids look like either. I live near a large city, and I don't know what the mayor's parents look like. Maybe once a year, he is shown in a photo with his family. Sarah Palin defined herself by her family, and the Heaths loved the attention. Imagine writing loving Facebook posts about a visit from Larry the Cable Guy! (Oh, be still my heart. If only he would visit me, too, also).

    I'm sure that Sally posed with anyone who wanted to have their photo taken with her at the Tea Party event. I don't think she knew one person from another. Like her daughter, she never met a camera that she didn't like. It would be fun to label the photo, "Sally Heath palling around with terrorists," but I think that all that we see is a woman was enjoying being in the spotlight. Fortunately, our governor's parents are not such publicity hounds.

    1. jcinco8:44 AM

      palin and her family have always been involved with "fringe" groups. I wouldn't be too quick to be cutting grandma a pass.

    2. Anonymous8:51 AM

      You missed this part of the post:

      "This was NOT a picture that Bill asked to be taken, this is a picture that Sally Heath WANTED to pose for."

    3. Anonymous10:26 AM

      Great comment.

      This family is full of attention whores.

    4. Anonymous11:39 AM

      I am amazed that Sally had the initiative to get the picture she wanted. She is a reminder and similar to Dottie Sandusky. I would think she stays in the back ground until called to duty. She must have really been proud of this shot of the Tea Party and the "Don't Tread on Me" background with the powerful guns and all.

      Don't forget this is the same woman that was with Trig Palin when he was subjected to the freezing weather on an early Palin bus tour. His feet and legs were bare while the adults and Piper were bundled. If that was not child abuse, what is? Can you imagine all the neglect and abuse Sally has been part of? Think of all the times Sally would have neglected and over looked the Heath/Palin child abuse? All the toxic secrets she keeps. Her life is centered around being an enabler to those she worships. That is why she misses the most vital parts of childhood care. It must have been a time of glory for her to stand with men that to her are the keepers of the arsenal and that whole "patriot" mind set of the crazy Palin Alaskan gun dummies. Aka Tea Party, Alaskan Republican.

      Now her son is proving the family dysfunction more so with his illicit sex and that whole story. It is not only the females in the family that are a hot mess, the only son of Chuck and Sally is horrific. Their whole community enables the bad sex behaviors of Heath/Palin clan from both males and females.

      Sally is also a mother to a daughter that is suffering from an eating disorder and problem with speed. What mother would enable the premature death and health misery of their child?

      I have given up on any hope that Sally Heath could do something of value for that family.

      That picture with guns and what it represented to her was probably one of her greatest moments in life. She is not a woman that authentically cares for her family, she has only the "love" of a sick enabler.

    5. Anonymous1:48 PM

      I once felt sorry for Sarah's mother. But Sally Heath is the keeper of Creepville. Even her son turned out to be jaded and a liar, those are his better traits it seems.

      It is about time that the informant of the compound activities can write their info and fill the world in on that part of the grifter's life. It won't be much longer now. Hold on to your hats, Sarah will be getting some interesting news she can't respond to.

      Any loud noises coming from Alaska will be ......

    6. Anonymous2:25 PM

      jcinco8:44 AM

      "palin and her family have always been involved with "fringe" groups. I wouldn't be too quick to be cutting great-grandma a pass."

      Fixed that for you - you're welcome.

  13. Anonymous9:07 AM

    What do you mean? What do you think is incriminating about this picture, or even intereesting? And while you're answering our questions, what do you mean by your 'tanacious pain in the asses'? Also too, does this mean there will be no surprise for Monday?

    1. Anonymous10:27 AM

      The epitome of butt hurt on display....

    2. Anonymous10:43 AM


      creepie chucky,

      who's "our", you and yer pet mouse ?

      for claimin' to be a teacher ( poor kids ) you sure are an ignorant uneducated bitch, eh

    3. Anonymous11:39 AM

      Creepy Chuckie Jr., isn't it time for you to search for a 'YOUNGER' wife? They don't last too long with you.

    4. Anonymous11:42 AM


      Not readily letting go of, giving up, or separated from an object that one holds, a position, or a principle: "a tenacious grip".

      Not easily dispelled or discouraged; persisting in existence or in a course of action: "a tenacious legend".
      persistent - tough - stubborn - dogged - obstinate

      Gryphen called his readers "tenacious pain in the asses" because he published the photo that Bill gave him and blurred the identity of both men as well as their business logo to protect the anonymity of the men in the photo. The very dogged and tenacious readership of The Immoral Minority then proceeded to undo all of Gryphen's hard work of "anonymizing" his photo by finding an unaltered version of said photo and sharing it with the world, thus being a "pain in his ass".

    5. Anonymous12:48 PM

      Until someone pointed out the math I was under the illusion that Chuck Heath Jr. was an actual decent citizen born into a creepy family. It doesn't set well with me when anyone has sex with a co-worker. That is when I realized he was like the others, no morals, no standards. He was thunking with the wrong head again. And another idiot's child pops out.

      What a disgusting example he is for children and young adults. What a sad community that accepts that and does not call out the perverts, especially one with name recognition. Why would any parent let their child stay in that school?

      It is sad to learn that Sally Heath is a wimp and so weak. Women like Sally are the worst. They are how creeps and perverts thrive on children and vulnerable adults.

      I put a great deal of the Palin mistakes and cruelty onto Sally Heath. Had she been of strength and a sterling character so much murder and mayhem would not be associated with the state of Alaska and their clan of losers.

    6. Anonymous1:57 PM



      ever proof read yer drivel/screed ?!?

      and you're a "teacher" ?!?

      LMAO !!!

      i luv it i know who you are and you know who i am, ya griftin' dumbass

    7. Anonymous2:10 PM

      Chuckie Jr does his pick ups at a school that allows children to be around creeps. Don't encourage him.

    8. Anonymous2:53 PM

      Looking forward to tomorrow. MONDAY!

  14. Anonymous9:07 AM

    Interesting for sure. Now there could be just some innocent reasons. Sally may have known the other guy in the photo, he could have been a child of her friends, or an acquaintance and she wanted to pose to show his parents. (I'm being real generous here). Second, she may have been asked by someone else to have her picture taken with these two guys (like Chuck or some unknown source, but this possibility is doubtful)

    Thirdly, she loves to have her picture taken with gun-toting strangers she just met because she has an attention-addiction like her daughter? Or maybe she likes to pose with young men who wear weapons because it confirms to her crowd how right-wing and unwilling to be tread upon like the flag behind her says?

    Whichever reason, she likes to be SEEN. Heaths or Palins as we've observed, don't like being hidden away. They love attention.

    There could be another reason that is out there, but can't be discussed maybe? Maybe there's a pending investigation on why the grandmother and mother of the ex-candidate VP of the United States isn't volunteering at shelters, or church, or charities in her community, but instead hanging around this crowd.

    1. Anonymous11:02 AM

      I wouldn't tell you this, but for the fact that I'll end up with all your chips anyway... But if you insist on flashing your cards, I'm going to look every time. You DO KNOW that we're playing for keepsies, Chuckie Junior, don't you?

    2. Anonymous8:12 PM

      @Anonymous 11:02 AM,
      Oohh...Do tell more!

  15. Anonymous9:09 AM

    Speaking of INSANE people:

    Glenn Beck is Planning a $2 Billion Libertarian Commune in Texas

    Earlier this week, Glenn Beck announced that he was reinventing The Blaze, his online media property, as a global libertarian news network, complete with three foreign bureaus, a nightly news magazine, and, no doubt, lots of Beck himself.
    Last night, he announced the next stage of his full-bodied embrace of libertarianism, which seems to be a massive commune inspired by "Galt's Gulch," Ayn Rand's utopian community in Atlas Shrugged.

    You can watch Beck's 20-minute rant about the community, which he's dubbed Independence, USA, or you can turn to Right Wing Watch, which reports:

    On his program last night, Beck revealed that his intention to "go Galt" is quite literal, unveiling grandiose plans to create an entirely self-sustaining community called Independence Park that will provide its own food and energy, produce television and film content, host research and development, serve as a marketplace for products and ideas, while also housing a theme park and serving as a residential community.
    At the center -- in the middle of the lake that is itself larger than all of Disney Land - Beck (with the help of David Barton) will create a massive "national archive"/learning center where people can send their children to be "deprogrammed" and elected officials can come to learn "the truth."

    The Blaze painted a more sympathetic portrait:

    1. I'm just glad he didn't pick Colorado.

    2. Anonymous10:10 AM

      This sounds like a very fundamentalist Mormon thing. I recently read the book Jon Krakauer wrote about the fundie Mormon brothers who killed their sister-in-law and her young daughter and learned for the first time that there is an effort under way to dig into a mine in order to find a secret cache of gold. Millions have been invested in this scheme. The brothers who committed the murders were part of a fringe movement around this. The wording about learning "the truth" parrots the language of the "white horse prophecy" about their being some secret history of the Constitution that only Mormons know.

      I wouldn't be surprised to find that Beck was attached to fringe, fundamentalist Mormon groups.

      Here is stuff about the mine.

    3. Anonymous11:42 AM

      Yay, they can be pen pals with the folks at the Citadel in Idaho!

    4. Anonymous2:31 PM

      Hahahahahahahahaha. Self-sustaining? Any idea how much land and WATER that takes?Is he gonna have his own refinery and electrical plant? Not to mention farm labor - jobs AMERICANS won't do for the pittance wages farmers pay to keep food so cheap. This oughta be good.

    5. LoveAndKnishesFromBrooklyn2:59 PM

      Sounds like a $$$$ scheme to me. Savvy "community planners" like Beck know that their petrified apostles will beg, borrow and steal to come up with the cash to pay for an exclusive property in a warped version of Freedomland. Then blammo, they'll go "bankrupt," apologize, beg for forgiveness and the funds will magically vanish. To the cliff, lemmings!

    6. Cracklin Charlie3:35 PM

      Joseph Smith planned his own communities of followers, as well.

      The more things change, the more they stay the same.

    7. Anonymous4:15 PM

      $2 B isn't even a down payment on the infrastructure that was described in that nonsense fantasy being hawked by the likes of Beck, but I'll let those bagger idiots figure it out on their own because they've yet to listen to any common sense from thinking people advising them about the wolves and grifters that are after the old folks' money.

      Be careful with your water supply, baggers. You better dig wells instead of trying to do it on the cheap by drinking from the stream running through the property. I own property north or there, and I'll be sure to go out and pee in the stream every chance I get, so y'all can really enjoy the back to nature experience. LOL. Talk about suckers...PT Barnum was right!

    8. Anonymous5:02 PM

      Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker used this, combining the concept with timeshares, RW bigots (pre TP days), and money laundering, and that turned out well, IIRC. Oh yeah, I forgot about the roller coaster and amusement park. Beck might add that feature to his grifting model.

  16. Anonymous9:23 AM

    I remember the Dec. 2011 post. Gryphen threw out a comment I submitted that included Fulton's name.

    As frustrating as it is to know some evidence about Palin's pregnancy hoax may be known and withheld, I give Gryphen much deserved credit for being 100% trustworthy in protecting his sources.

  17. Anonymous9:35 AM

    Colin Powell Slams Sarah Palin and the Republican Party’s Obama Racism

    Gen. Powell said, “There’s also a dark — a dark vein of intolerance in some parts of the party. What do I mean by that? I mean by that that they still sort of look down on minorities. How can I evidence that? When I see a former governor say that the President is “shuckin’ and jivin’,” that’s racial era slave term. When I see another former governor after the president’s first debate where he didn’t do very well, says that the president was lazy. He didn’t say he was slow. He was tired. He didn’t do well. He said he was lazy. Now, it may not mean anything to most Americans, but to those of us who are African Americans, the second word is shiftless and then there’s a third word that goes along with that. The birther, the whole birther movement. Why do senior Republican leaders tolerate this kind of discussion within the party?”

  18. Anonymous9:37 AM

    With its Silence the Republican Party Shows Support for Violence Against the Government

    ...What one finds interesting is that none of the so-called leaders of the Republican Party, conservative pundits, national neo-conservative news organizations, or National Rifle Association have made any attempts to tamp down the seditious rhetoric inciting civil war, revolution, or violent action against the government over legally enacted laws such as the Affordable Care Act or discussions about gun safety measures. It is not that they advocate for violence or a new American revolution, but they do encourage opposition to this President and any agenda not originating from neo-conservatives at any cost; even sedition.

    It is possible that many of the people calling for revolution or civil war are just ranting and raving at election results they disagree with, but for every irate, disaffected gun-fanatic with a public forum, there are thousands of heavily-armed Americans just waiting for a signal to start shooting people, and like yelling fire in a crowded theatre, are creating a clear and present danger they will bring about the substantive evils that Congress has a right to prevent. Sadly, since Republicans advocate any means of advancing opposition to the legally elected President of the United States, it is safe to say that not only will they never condemn seditious speech and calls for a new American revolution, their silence is tacit consent.


    1. Anita Winecooler6:24 PM


      I've been saying this for weeks and weeks. Silence equals Acceptance. One would think at least ONE would speak out.. crickets!

  19. Anonymous10:14 AM

    I recognize about a half dozen attempts to create a veil of doubt as to the veracity of claims supporting direct ties between the former half-term governor and her immediate family members with convicted domestic terrorists and their associates.

    Forge ahead, Gryphen. Creepy Junior will be shadowing your every step, attempting to deflect or distract from the implications of these associations, for which this crime family has exploited to do their dirty work whenever they needed to keep up the ruse of their hands being clean.

    Remember, this began with the group of militia folks who recognized Sarah as their potential "legitimate" stooge on the town council who could be their access to local power to run the town THEIR way. Greasing the Grifter's palm with a little under the table payola did the trick.

    Sunlight is the best disinfectant, but these vile creatures will burrow under every rock available to prevent being identifiled and publicly profiled. I'm loving watching them scramble whenever you get close to a sensitive area. Many of the roads in this saga lead toward Kenai. I wouldn't travel in that direction alone, Jesse, and I hope you won't either.

    I suppose I better post this one as Anonymous.

  20. Anonymous11:07 AM

    I LOVE it that Colin Powell called out Sarah!

    Those Palin's are not having a good weekend.

    1. Anonymous11:57 AM

      Yes, I can't wait for her FB and Fox response. She would let Powell get by with that? No way. They would have to keep her sedated in the compound dungeon or tower.

      Where do the store her when she is melted down to that sorry person others have described?

    2. jcinco12:48 PM

      I think she's been relegated to her fakebook page as her only platform to rant and screech from...

    3. Anonymous1:18 PM

      She should be ashamed, but she won't be.

  21. Anonymous11:37 AM

    The Heaths and Palins are simple middle class Alaskans that like guns and generally pal around with the types of people that would be at this rally. Lots of camo, lots of bluster, lots of dick-wagging tales of who killed the biggest animal and stuck its head on their wall. These are the people the Heath/Palins hang with and these are the kind of events that draw these sorts of people. You'd never find a Heath or Palin at opening night of the Anchorage Opera but they can't resist something like this event where the photo was taken. It's who they are and what they do, just a bunch of rednecks.

    1. Anonymous2:34 PM

      But the most outrageous aria never killed anyone - guns do.

      And there lies the difference.

    2. Good gawd. Hey, Palin ghostwriter, if anyone's an expert at writing fiction, you are.

      I suppose the above is an excerpt from Volume 5 of the Palin Mythology, after Sarah's two novels, Bristol's one, and ChuckieSr/ChuckieJr's.

    3. Anonymous4:18 PM

      Yes, lots of dick wagging and talk. You nailed those low-intel bluster-baggers. Well stated.

  22. Anonymous3:50 PM

    Sarah Palin too far gone and lost to reload.

    It is all retreat for Palin now.

  23. Anita Winecooler7:05 PM

    Your original post shows that you value integrity and trust in the people you deal with, the two main traits that I value most in people.
    Yeah, Baldy's mom just laps up the attetion, any attention she can get. Kind of sad for a woman of her age, if you think about it.
    She must, on some level, feel incredibly lonely and or marginalized. Most women her age are content with their decisions and don't walk around looking for opportunities to be in front of a camera.
    Can't blame her, look who she's married to and the lives of her kids, sons in law, grandkids etc. (all losers!)

    So hanging out with people she THINKS are armed "thugs" is giving her what she's missing at home, pathetic!

    1. Anonymous4:22 AM

      Well said.

  24. Anonymous10:46 PM

    You guys are hilarious!! Only republicans, only conservatives, only Christians --- they are all BAD!! The left is all good - nothing to see there huh? Clean as a whistle are ya? Your level of intellectual dishonesty is amusing considering one of your post that said the "hypocrisy" made your draw drop (from the Palins). Was that before or after YOU looked in the mirror?? If your honestly after the truth - did you report so fervently when Joe Miller had his tires slashed (9 times), his cars vandalized, HIS kids bullied in school, he and his family vilified by - wait for it - YOUR lefties. (he's not perfect either - find me someone who is I dare you). I wish I could just once see someone on the left or right actually be honest about "their" politicians or ideology. It's always the other side is so bad while you ignore the "plethora" of data showing the problems with your own side. I'm reminded of a quote by a rather famous dude 2000 years ago. Take the plank out of your own eye so you may see clearly to take the speck out of your brothers....

    1. Anonymous11:30 AM

      10:46 PM Home-Schooled, EH? It shows from your incoherent Rant. Tell us about the RIGHTIES' Chief PIMP. I'm sure that you have enjoyed the services of Todd's struggling, down and out young Mothers.

  25. Anonymous12:15 AM

    If Sally is a great white lady huntress when will we see the photos the proud family have of her skills? They loved recording their frontier life and how it makes them strong and great. They would not leave out the matriarch's tribute to the necessity of guns.

    Track does look like this part of the family.

  26. Anonymous12:56 AM

    I don't want to think that someone like Chuck Heath Jr. is teaching any children in this country. What has gone wrong? What chance do children have that are subjected to the likes of a Chuck Heath Jr.?

    Not only a sexual deviant but he is ignorant. If he uses google he ignores facts when convenient to his specious gun control argument.

    "During World War II, the Japanese had considered invading us but did not go through with it, because our population was heavily armed at the time." Chuck Heath Jr. He goes on and it only gets worse.
    Feb 23, 1942.
    Sep 9, 1942
    Reason For Japan Not Invading Continental US
    "I don't honestly think that an untrained mob of civilian gun owners would deter any nation from attacking a country,let alone the Japanese of that time.

    In all liklihood the armed civilians would have killed more of each other then any enemy soldiers.
    I have seen films of American armed militias of today training and they are truly dreadful."
    Chuck Heath Jr. should know how truly dreadful.

    What an shallow thinker and truly stupid man he is.


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