Tuesday, January 08, 2013

Mother of Christina Taylor Green, tiniest victim of the Tucson shooting, appears in commercial to end gun violence.

Courtesy of TPM:  

Mayors Against Illegal Guns, a gun-control initiative co-founded by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, released on Monday an ad as part of the group's "Demand a Plan" to end gun violence campaign featuring the mother of a girl killed in the Tucson, Ariz., shooting two years ago. "I have one question for our political leaders: When will you find the courage to stand up to the gun lobby?" Rozanna Green said in the ad. "Whose child has to die next?" 

The ad goes on air Tuesday in Tucson, Ariz.; Waco, Texas; Roanoke, Va.; Fargo, N.D.; Denver, Colo.; Binghamton, N.Y.; and Milwaukee, Wis. It will continue to air in the Washington, D.C. market through Jan. 14.

You know I had a troll on a previous thread who attacked me, and all of you, for not recognizing the difference in the caliber of weapon that is mentioned in talks about banning assault weapons and those used in the military or for hunting.

I don't think these people understand that this is NOT about simply taking one kind of gun off of the streets, it is about making sure that ALL guns are carefully monitored in this country, and that people who should never have access to them, never GET access to them.

That is certainly not going to happen overnight, but this is also not going to be a short term solution to a long term, and increasing growing, problem.

And if people are not aware of the kind of passion that is driving the desire to do something significant about gun violence, then take a look at the blow back endured by a Connecticut Republican who had the temerity to demand on Facebook that Gabby Giffords "stay out of my towns:"  

"Gabby Giffords stay out of my towns," the post on the Facebook page for State Rep. DebraLee Hovey, a Republican who represents Newtown and Monroe, said last week. On Monday, she issued an apology for the comments she posted online. 

"The remarks I made regarding Congresswoman Giffords' visit were insensitive and if I offended anyone I truly apologize," Rep. Hovey said in a statement. "My comments were meant to be protective of the privacy of the families and our community as we work to move on, and were in no way intended as an insult to Congresswoman Giffords personally. Our community has struggled greatly through this tragedy, and we are all very sensitive to the potential for this event to be exploited for political purposes. This is what I wish to avoid," she added.

I imagine that a lot of  big talking NRA defenders are going to be reevaluating their positions as this issue moves forward.

We should have done something after Columbine, and we didn't.

We should have done something after Tucson, and we didn't.

But this time I think the excuse making is over, and that the fear of the NRA's influence is not going to be nearly enough to stop legislation from being passed that will have a real impact on the guns being sold in this country, and the kind of people they are being sold to.

If that does NOT heppen then the blood of the next movie house audience, school classroom full of children, or mall full of shoppers is on our collective hands.


  1. Anonymous5:09 PM

    The person who says, "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun" is engaging in last-minute thinking—sort of like our Congress. Two questions are being ignored:
    How did that guy become (that much of) a bad guy?
    How did that bad guy become a bad guy with a gun?

    P.S. Don't forget the good guy with a gun in Tucson, who came on the scene seconds after a bystander took the killer's gun away.

  2. Anonymous5:20 PM

    Saw the add on our local news at 5 in Denver. I hope it wakes up some people around here. We don't need another Columbine or movie shooting. Holmes is in court this week and it's been very interesting. He may be crazy, but he knew what he was doing and how he carried it out. Loopholes make this possible!

  3. Anonymous5:56 PM

    S.E. Cupp Falsely Claims That None Of Biden Gun Task Force Measures Would ‘Prevent Another Newtown’

    ...Let me preface this by saying that S.E. Cupp is a great person, who is obviously motivated by long-held convictions, and who undoubtedly believes everything she is saying, but her statements are an unfortunate mirror of the gun lobby’s most insidious, and demonstrably false, talking points. The NRA uses good people to make their toxic myths sound reasonable, and it works. Three liberals who know better failed to knock them down, even though they are similarly motivated by deeply-held convictions, maybe because there were so many packed into a small space. Here they are, in order:


  4. Sally in MI5:58 PM

    Why does every blessed GOP 'apology' begin with , "IF I offended anyone, I am sorry." Please. If you hadn't offended anyone, you would have said your crappy ideas and gone away. Guns kill. Guns kill. People with guns kill other people. I'd bet there are more people killed in the US with guns than deer.

  5. Anonymous6:09 PM

    Intriguing idea that I hope to hear more about as part of the debate--required liability insurance for gun owners.

    "As for the tough-guy preeners who blather on and on about the government coming to take their guns and who issue not-so-veiled threats about inflicting death on those who disagree with them? Under my proposal, the biggest problem for them wouldn’t be Obama. It would be Geico."


  6. Leland6:19 PM

    There is one other thing, in my opinion, that we need to do in addition to gun control.

    We need to get rid of the plea of "not guilty by reason of insanity".

    1. Anonymous7:18 PM

      How about guilty by reason of insanity? Still gets locked up, hopefully gets treatment, but no free pass when labeled "sane".

      COalmost Native

    2. I've always thought that "guilty but insane" is a better way to get someone off the street, either into a mental hospital or into a prison. And IF that person improves in the mental hospital, then move them into the prison.

  7. Anonymous6:20 PM

    We should have done something after Virginia Tech and we didn't.......

  8. Anonymous6:27 PM

    Agree wholeheartedly. That guy on the last gun thread is a prime example of the type of person that most likely wouldn't pass the mental health test that should be required to possess a firearm. Angry hotheads and firearms don't mix, 'mkay.

  9. Anonymous7:32 PM

    '''"Gabby Giffords stay out of my towns," the post on the Facebook page for State Rep. DebraLee Hovey, a Republican who represents Newtown and Monroe, said last week. On Monday, she issued an apology for the comments she posted online. '''

    OMG, the woman said this?! Repubs are SO damn nasty.

  10. Anonymous7:42 PM

    "Gabby Giffords stay out of my towns," the post on the Facebook page for State Rep. DebraLee Hovey, a Republican who represents Newtown and Monroe, said last week.''

    HER towns? Who the hell does this bitch think she is. Last I heard a congressperson is a public servant. Those towns belong to the public. She does not own those towns.

  11. Anonymous7:57 PM

    Jon Stewart Destroys The Right On Gun Control: We Can’t Do Anything Because You Fear ‘Imaginary Hitler’

    Tonight on The Daily Show, the ever-subtle Jon Stewart took on the topic of the right’s response to gun control in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in Newtown, Connecticut. “Finally, everybody is ready to talk about gun violence,” he said. “Nothing is off the table, no bad idea, it’s a safe space. Let’s start the discussion on gun control.”

    ...The time to talk about guns, Stewart says, is now. Throughout the rest of the segment, he continued to rip, well, basically everyone on the right about the inability to get any meaningful gun legislation passed.

    He finally addressed the Piers Morgan interview last night as well as several other instances of gun advocates fearing a repeat of Hitler’s reign or Mao’s or Stalin’s.

    “Now I get it, now I see what’s happening,” he said. “Their paranoid fear of a possible dystopic future prevents us from addressing our actual dystopic present.” We can’t do anything, he added, because the right is too worried about the rise of “imaginary Hitler.”

    Watch the video below in two parts, via Comedy Central:
    Part 1:


    1. Anita Winecooler8:29 PM

      Thanks, I was going to recommend it myself. Jon's in rare form!

  12. Anita Winecooler8:38 PM

    Mrs. Green's speaking our language, and appealing to
    Mom's was a brilliant move! And the ad is totally viral, it's been on every news show, newspaper, radio program. Released on the anniversary of the Az massacre - Very Well Done!

    OT Another Parent/Friend/Teacher who stood up for her child, passed away at 92
    RIP, Jeanne Manford

  13. Anonymous3:41 AM

    Please, please, please God (sorry, G!) let it do some good this time around.... unfortunately, the NRA and the baggers will probably just outspend and outshout us and the status quo will prevail.
    Whenever I hear the old argument about how these terrible things only happen because bad people have guns and the good guys need guns to prevent such terrible things, I recount the tale of my best friend: murdered in 1985,, shot execution style at point blank range by a law-abiding NRA member, upstanding citizen (and ironically, someone she knew) who decided to rob the bookstore where she worked because he thought he could get away with it. Locally, a few folks floated the same excuse: if she'd been armed, blah blah blah..... by that argument, we all need to be packing and assume that everyone else around us is secretly a whack-a-doodle who's about to go off. That's right Grandma, I'm watchin' you! And don't you get any ideas either little Billy or you won't be seeing recess today. This is the world the NRA wants for us

  14. Anonymous8:57 AM

    Yes, the blood will be on your hands, but it's not expected that you take that seriously. The unfortunate truth is that you are a violent people and that has led to the need for armed protection of children in their schools. Not as a final measure but at least as a temporary measure until your society is somehow changed to behaviour more civilized. But also consider that the blood will be on your hands because of your political stubborness in resisting the obvious need to protect those children.
    (not for posting jesse but you do what your conscience tells you is best)

    1. Anonymous8:57 AM said...

      "(not for posting jesse but you do what your conscience tells you is best)"

      I think what you meant to say was...

      "nuts are posting jesse but do what your concience tells you is best)"

      The crazy is STONG with this one! Beat it crazy...you're needed on the the Alex Jones thread...that seems more your speed! LOL!

    2. Anonymous1:06 PM

      How many more dead children will be too many Gina?

    3. Anonymous1:06 PM

      S T F U Troll!

      Like YOU really give a shit about "dead children"!

      You're an internet troll who hangs out on IM's posting your insults and looking for a response...well guess what asshole...you got your response...now go fuck yourself!


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