Friday, February 08, 2013

Fox News attempts to explain the gap between Germany's highly successful solar energy industry, as opposed to America's lackluster one, on the fact that Germany is sunnier than the US. I kid you not.

Courtesy of Slate:

Thanks to Fox News and its expert commentators, millions of Americans now understand the real, hidden reason why Germany's solar-energy industry is so much further along than ours. Turns out it has nothing to do with the fact that Germany's government has long supported the industry far more generously, with policies like feed-in tariffs that stimulate investment in green technologies. No, the real reason is much simpler, explained a trio of journalists on Fox & Friends: It's always sunny in Germany! 

"The industry's future looks dim," intoned host Gretchen Carlson at the beginning of the segment, which was preserved for posterity by the liberal blog Media Matters for America. She and her co-host went on to ridicule Obama's "failed" solar subsidies, adding, "The United States simply hasn't figured out how to do solar cheaply and effectively. You look at the country of Germany, it's working out great for them." Near the end of the segment, it occurred to Carlson to ask her expert guest, Fox Business reporter Shibani Joshi, why it might be that Germany's solar-power sector is doing so much better. "What was Germany doing correct? Are they just a smaller country, and that made it more feasible?" Carlson asked. 

Joshi's jaw-dropping response: "They're a smaller country, and they've got lots of sun. Right? They've got a lot more sun than we do." In case that wasn't clear enough for some viewers, Joshi went on: "The problem is it's a cloudy day and it's raining, you're not gonna have it." Sure, California might get sun now and then, Joshi conceded, "but here on the East Coast, it's just not going to work." 

Wouldn't you think that some scientist, somewhere, would have noticed that the East Coast is far less sunny than Central Europe and therefore incapable of producing solar power on the same scale? 

You would—if it were true. As Media Matters' Max Greenberg notes, it isn't. Not even remotely. According to maps put out by the U.S. Department of Energy's National Renewable Energy Laboratory, virtually the entirety of the continental United States gets more sun than even the sunniest part of Germany. In fact, NREL senior scientist Sarah Kurtz said via email, "Germany's solar resource is akin to Alaska's," the U.S. state with by far the lowest annual average of direct solar energy.

As we have reported earlier this week, there are fewer and fewer people who trust Fox News these days, but that is not the only place that puts out this kind of anti-green energy propaganda.

There are also many Republican members of Congress and the Senate whose campaigns were largely funded by energy companies, and their supporters, for the sole purpose of fighting the inevitable move toward solar energy and renewable energy sources which is really what's at the heart of our sluggishness in moving that direction.

Of course the energy companies have far more insidious methods for fighting the move away from fossil fuels as well.

If you happened to watch the documentary Jesus Camp you probably saw this scene where the mom was homeschooling her son and teaching him that global warming was a fraud and only used as a political tactic. You KNOW that is something that the oil companies paid to have put in those books in order to indoctrinate children into believing that green energy is an unnecessary waste of money, just like those folks in the Fox and Friends clip above would also have you believe.

By the way. my daughter is a HUGE proponent of green energy, and would like all of you to know that many people in Alaska DO have solar panels in their homes that work quite well.

51 comments:

  1. How stupid. Germany has a climate similar to Wisconsin; plenty of clouds and rain.

    Keep calling them out, Gryphen.

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    1. Anonymous8:04 AM

      Shine On, you crazy Germans!

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    2. Anonymous9:08 AM

      That's why Germany's public transportation system is way better than ours, too: all that sun.

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  2. Anonymous6:56 AM

    Fox and Friends is the dumbest show on television. The hosts don't have two brain cells to rub together between them.

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  3. hedgewytch7:04 AM

    I just spent the week (actually still here) in Anchorage attending the Alaska Forum on the Environment. www.akforum.org

    This annual event is the largest gathering of stakeholders in the region (AK,ID,WA and OR)with over 900 sessions on climate change, energy, solid and hazardous waste, environmental education, etc.

    We have representatives attending and presenting from State, Fed and Tribal govs, businesses, non-profits, and regular folks who want to learn about these issues.

    On the energy track we had sessions on renewable and alternative energy sources. US Dept. of Energy and independent business attended, among others, guess who didn't attend? The State. The State of Alaska is so far up the oil and gas industries ass that they can't even discuss alternative energy except in the most vague and peripheral ways. Sad. Instead of leading this nation in renewable/alternative energy technology and innovations (geothermal, hydro-kinetic, solar, wind), we are grabbing onto the sides of the doorway with both hands and not letting go.

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    1. Anonymous8:06 AM

      Didn't Alaaaska use to have an Energy Expert?

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    2. Anonymous12:21 PM

      a SELF-DESCRIBED expert. Actually, she's a fucking lunatic though.

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  4. Anonymous7:09 AM

    We have solar panels and power is generated even when the sky is overcast. Only time they don't work is when they are covered in snow, which is something we'll solve.

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  5. Anonymous7:30 AM

    Great Jumpin' Jeebus I hate these ignorant, lying jerkoffs!!!

    For the first time, solar is cheaper than coal:

    http://cleantechnica.com/2013/02/03/thin-film-solar-power-to-be-sold-for-less-than-coal/

    DEPORT MURDOCH!!! NOW!!!

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    1. Anonymous9:09 AM

      Yessssssssssssssssssssss!

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  6. Gretchen Carlson and Steve Doofy are the TV equivalent of dumb and dumber.

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  7. I have solar lights outside here in MI, and last night they were glowing in the midst of the blizzard..it has been cloudy for several days, and they still found the power. Can Fox possibly get any dumber?
    And fine, end the solar subsidies, but also end the billions we give to the oil barons who are making billions more. Why are we still subsidizing these environment wreckers?

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  8. Anonymous7:57 AM

    Okay, Fox, Iḿ convinced.

    Germany is located in a different solar system.

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  9. WakeUpAmerica8:01 AM

    Gretchen Carlson gives dumb blondes a bad name. In fact, I'm pretty sure she is the one who lowers the dumb blonde gene pools IQ significantly.

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    1. Oddly enough, Gretchen Carlson graduated with honors from Stanford University and also studied at Oxford. I wonder if she suffered some kind of traumatic brain injury between then and now that could explain her current stupidity.

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    2. lostinmn9:50 AM

      Gretch was shelly b's babysitter. That's where all the crazy came from.

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    3. I think it was Michelle that was Gretchen's nanny. That would kind of explain her.

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    4. Anonymous5:23 AM

      crazy like a "Fox", you realize these people are actors, making lots of money telling pre-packaged lies.

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  10. Randi Rhodes said it best: they have to keep the cameras on the Fox ' pundits' above their knees because they're so stupid they probably have their shoes on the wrong feet!

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  11. Even WalMart is investing in renewable energy in their stores. Too bad they don't advertise that more.

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    1. Anonymous10:54 AM

      WalMart should use that money to invest in the wages of their workers, so they don't have to resort to public assistance that we pay for.

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  12. Anonymous8:30 AM

    Germany has long been held as a example of the success of solar, and it's long been understood they have LESS sunshine than the US. But if you watch Fox,you would not know that, and here these assclowns are telling you the opposite. No surprise.

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    1. Germany does several things the U.S. could but doesn't.

      1. They manufacture solar panels and the other components for PV systems. I have a German converter on my system.

      2. They subsidize those that invest in the panels.

      3. They support PV in the media, etc. The nation is very conscious of recycling, reusing, renewing and being green. They strive to avoid waste.

      I recently went to Switzerland and Germany for 10 days. I was very impressed with the hotels conservation set up. For instance you can't turn the lights on without putting your room key card in a slot. That way you can't leave the lights on when you leave.

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  13. Anonymous8:30 AM

    The only people dumber than the Fox hosts, are their loyal viewers

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  14. Anonymous8:33 AM

    Carpet the Southwestern deserts with panels. Rebuild the grid. You could power the whole country.

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    1. Anonymous11:17 AM

      damn right

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  15. Anonymous8:49 AM

    PPP: Alaska Voters Not Too Keen On Palin

    Just how much has Sarah Palin's standing in Alaska slipped? Voters there have a higher opinion of an historically unpopular Congress, according to the latest survey from Democratic-leaning Public Policy Polling.

    Eighty-two percent of Alaska voters said they have an unfavorable opinion of Congress — mirroring nationwide surveys and results in other states — compared with just eight percent have a favorable opinion. According to Gallup, the congressional approval rating in 2012 dipped to an all-time low.

    But even so, PPP found that voters in Alaska have a higher opinion of Congress than their former half-term governor and one-time Republican vice presidential nominee. Fifty percent said they have a higher opinion of Congress, while 34 percent said they have a higher opinion of Palin.

    The vast majority of voters there, 78 percent, said they do not want Palin to run for president in 2016. If she did and were pitted against Hillary Clinton in the general election, PPP showed that the former secretary of state would carry the state by a comfortable margin of 16 points

    http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_AK_208.pdf

    http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/ppp-alaska-voters-not-too-keen-on-palin

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    1. Anonymous9:53 AM

      PPP is not Democrat leaning. Rand is the culprit.

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  16. Anonymous8:53 AM

    Hillary Clinton Leads Marco Rubio, Chris Christie In National 2016 Presidential Poll

    According to a new poll by Public Policy Polling, outgoing Secretary of State and incoming First Woman President Hillary Clinton has a sizable lead over her possible 2016 Democratic competition, and handily beats every Republican thrown at her in hypothetical presidential match-ups. Even the Democrats’ second choice, Vice President Joe Biden, wins all but one hypothetical match-up, tying New Jersey Governor Chris Christie at 44%. Among Republicans, Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) enjoys a good-sized national lead, but is tied for the lead in first-in-the-nation Iowa… with former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee.

    Four years as Secretary of State have left Hillary Clinton with huge approval ratings to go with the momentum she generated with her 2008 run for president, which translate into crushing advantages in these early polls:


    Hillary Clinton continues to dominate both nationally and in Iowa. Nationally she’s at 58% to 19% for Joe Biden, 8% for Elizabeth Warren, and 3% for Andrew Cuomo. She’s even stronger in Iowa at 68% to 21% for Biden with no one else over 2%. Her favorability rating with Democrats there is 90/5.

    …Clinton leads in head to head match ups nationally with all of the leading Republicans. She’s up 8 on Rubio 49/41, 6 on Bush and Ryan at 49/43 and 50/44 respectively, and 46/42 on Christie. Biden does an average of 3 points worse than Clinton against the Republicans- he’s up 48/43 on Rubio, 49/45 on Ryan, 48/45 on Bush, and ties Christie at 44.

    Republicans seem to have settled on Senator Marco Rubio as the early frontrunner, at least nationally, but the Iowa results show a party in need of some modernization, as they’ve granted a tie with a guy who didn’t want the job last time:

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/hillary-clinton-leads-marco-rubio-chris-christie-in-national-2016-presidential-poll/

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    1. Anonymous9:57 AM

      Please, for the love of America, nominate DWS.

      Having said that, I would vote for Hillary over any Reoplican except for Jindal.

      They are the same except Jindal has a ¨pass¨ to be more socially ¨liberal.¨.

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  17. Anonymous8:58 AM

    The New Republic's Latest Cover Quietly Destroys The GOP

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/new-republic-cover-party-of-white-republicans-2013-2#ixzz2KKcrtNLP

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  18. Anonymous9:25 AM

    Stupid is as Stupid says and does. You can't debate or rationalize with Stupid. One must simply recognize Stupid for what it is, then ignore Stupid.

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    1. Anonymous11:18 AM

      lol. Thanks for the reminder

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    2. Anonymous3:36 AM

      Interesting that losing Sarah Palin and Dick Morris did not raise the average intelligence of the people who appear on Fox News. One would have thought . . . . I guess everyone at Fox is as dumb as Sarah Palin.
      Beaglemom

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  19. Byaka9:34 AM

    There should, at the minimum, be solar panels on every house in the southern tier of the US. I live in Texas after having grown up in TN and SC AND having served in Germany. We have enough sunshine here (esp. compared to Germany!) to power all our homes everyday, all day.

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  20. Anonymous10:22 AM

    Further proof these dipshits live in a windowless bunker.

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  21. Chenagrrl10:40 AM

    If she broke the numbers down on a regional basis, she would have seen that in some regions solar is a growing contributor to the power grid. But it is still a small part of the overall national figure.

    Beware a commentator or news reporter who says "People are talking about." This is a dead give away that the person has not done any research and his about to dispatch some moose poop.

    Also, she delivered the Koch Bros line perfectly. Nat Gas. That is Willy Koch's fav word for it.

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  22. Smirnonn11:33 AM

    What an insanely stupid fucking statement. My response to Joshi:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

    Anybody with a rudimentary grasp on global geography would realize the US has so much more land closer to the equator than Germany. My friend's 3 year old could look at a globe and grasp that fact.

    Good ol' faux spews. They just keep digging their hole deeper and deeper.

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    1. Anonymous12:07 PM

      She "earned" her MBA at Harvard.

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  23. Anonymous12:08 PM

    My husband works at NREL (although not in the solar division). I'll have to pass this on to him, if it hasn't made the rounds of him office e-mail yet.

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  24. They aren't even trying to hide the fact that their viewers are the stupidest people on Earth who will believe anything that anyone on Fox says.

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  25. And this is the kind of shit they STILL spew on Fox News AFTER turning down the volume on STUPID by getting rid of Sarah Palin and Dick Morris. Roger Ailes and Bill Shine still have a hell of a lot of work to do to make their GOP propaganda channel palatable to informed, educated viewers.

    This is just a matter of saying whatever shit comes into their little ODS minds that will put them 180 degrees away from the POTUS's position. For an educated person, Grechen is a fucking idiot. And Douchy and not-Douchy are a couple of no-brained knuckleheads. How they manage to find these guests that have no clue and will just agree with these idiots hosting is a testament to their willingness to scrape the shit off the bottom of the barrel and give them a title of "expert". What a joke.

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  26. allen west is a wanker12:23 PM

    You blow sunshine up my ass, I'll pee a rainbow.

    cheezburger.com/4723463168

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  27. Anonymous12:36 PM

    Give these idiots on Fox & Friends credit where it's deserved. They obviously have to get up early and work their asses off pretending to be as stupid as they appear. Other than their loyal audience that dies off a little every day, no one is as ignorant as these clowns portray themselves.

    There's nothing wrong with appealing to an older audience--- hell, I'm in their demo target, too--- but most people who have made it to 40, 50, or 60 years old and older have learned to recognize bullshit when they see or hear it. But Fox viewers, um, not so much.

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  28. Anonymous12:43 PM

    An interesting bit of info for you Gryphen and the loyal readers of this blog.

    Texas(yes Texas the big oil state) is now producing 26% of their power grid needs with wind energy.

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  29. Anonymous1:33 PM


    More intelligent people dissing Fox News:

    http://www.geekosystem.com/fox-news-germany-solar-power/

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  30. Anonymous4:14 PM

    When I was stationed in Germany while in the Army, a friend of mine kept a diary of sunny days versus cloudy days, and found that there was, on average, one sunny day every 14 days. And this is how they supposedly get more sunshine????

    As some of our esteemed audience has observed, these Fox people have to work at being so stupid!

    Tom, in FL (where it's been relatively cloudy today)

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  31. Anita Winecooler6:28 PM

    Well, That Shobani lady DOES have a point. Fox News viewers everywhere know that the moon is the sun when the lights go out, just keep the dang lights on, problem solved! HA!

    All joking aside, Solar power would work in every state of the union. I've seen a lot of solar farms popping up near big companies in New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Delaware. We're starting to look into solar and wind for our next and last home.

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  32. I have Photo Voltaic panels on my roof. I still think it was a great investment.

    Yes, it's expensive and will take years to pay off. But they're working like a charm. I haven't paid for electricity since I put them in.

    And the more expensive electricity is, the faster the PV panels pay for themselves and the more money I save.

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  33. Anonymous3:34 AM

    Denmark is another country that has gone in the direction of solar and wind energy in a big way. And Denmark is certainly not as "sunny" as much of the US. Interestingly, the state of Texas is big into wind energy and probably into solar as well. I guess what is okay for Texas is not okay for the rest of us, at least according to the oil people. And Fox News.
    Beaglemom

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  34. The talking heads guarding the inhabitants of Bullsh*t Mountain from rejoining the world of the sane only serve their own warped ideology. Fox News is a propaganda machine which dumbs down America by the day through disinformation and their slanted agendas. See their anchors spewing forth feces from their mouths in my visual homage to the network on my artist’s blog at http://dregstudiosart.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-fox-news-scylla-guardian-of-bullsht.html

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