Friday, February 01, 2013

John McCain's vicious interrogation of his old friend Chuck Hagel yesterday, had NOTHING to do with Chuck Hagel, and EVERYTHING to do with the man who nominated him for Secretary of Defense.

Courtesy of The American Prospect:

At any rate, what happened yesterday wasn’t about Hagel at all. It wasn’t even about the Iraq War’s 2007 “surge,” which McCain is desperate to justify because he can never justify the war itself that finds Hagel moved to the right side of history while McCain remains stubbornly on the wrong. It’s about that junior senator from Illinois who crossed McCain early in some obscure backroom Senate deal no one can remember anymore, then denied McCain the presidency in no small part because Obama understood the folly of Iraq better than McCain can allow himself to. McCain’s personal honor in Hanoi was too hard won to be stained now by almost anything he does, including how he’s allowed temperament, pique and ego to steamroll the judgment and perspective that we hope all of our elected officers have, let alone presidents. But his political honor, not to mention whatever might once have recommended him to the presidency, has fallen victim to the way that Obama has gotten fatally under his skin. Even if this once-noble statesman should succeed in denying Hagel’s nomination as he denied Susan Rice’s prospects for Secretary of State (and even the most devout Hagel supporter would have to acknowledge that the Defense nominee’s performance before the Committee was often a shambles), McCain’s unrelenting obsession with the grievance that Obama has come to represent to him is the saddest legacy in memory. The very fact of Obama and all things Obamic has turned McCain into something toxic, maybe even to himself. 

You know we often condemn Sarah Palin for her constant, and never ending, attacks on the President, but truth be known John McCain is equally aggressive in going after Obama at every opportunity. And in fact has been a key figure in helping to block many of Obama's policies and appointments.

Even after four years these two petty little bitches, simply CANNOT let anything go.

However it is one thing for Palin to throw her sad little fits on Fox News (A venue that is now closed to her) and Facebook, while it is quite another for a sitting Senator to use his office to exact revenge on a political foe.

Besides in my opinion, Chuck Hagel got the best of McCain yesterday. While the Arizona Senator was trying to shame Hagel for not supporting the surge in Iraq, Hagel turned that around and used the opportunity to condemn the whole Iraq war, which of course in the minds of most Americans should never have been fought in the first place:

MCCAIN: Are you going to answer the question? Were you right or wrong? That’s a straightforward question. Answer whether you are right or wrong and then you are free to elaborate. 

HAGEL: I’m not going to give you a yes or no answer. 

MCCAIN: Let the record show he refuses to answer the question. Please go ahead. 

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HAGEL: I’m not going to give you a yes or no. It’s far more complicated than that. I will defer that judgment to history. As to the comment I made about the most dangerous foreign policy decision since Vietnam, that was about not just the surge, but the overall war of choice going into Iraq. That particular decision made on the surge, but more to the point, our war in Iraq, I think was the most fundamentally bad, dangerous decision since Vietnam.

You know what? That is EXACTLY the mindset that I want the Secretary of the Defense to go into his job with.

Thank you Senator McCain for giving this man the opportunity to express such an important, and welcome point of view.

Now you should probably hurry off, I understand there are some kids playing on your lawn.

46 comments:

  1. Anonymous12:35 PM

    OMG! Which lawn?

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    1. OT:Mark Sullivan head of Secret Service stepping down...the palin curse once again! http://bit.ly/VzOwnK https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/secret-service-chief-step-article-1.1253506

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  2. Anonymous12:41 PM

    McNasty wanted Chuck Hagel for his secretary of defense. So what changed his mind?

    This man is a better man then McNasty the man who chose Sarah Palin or Mrs Dumb and Dumber for VP. His ideal

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  3. deebee12:45 PM

    "...personal honor in Hanoi..."?
    A war hero due to his own uncorroborated testimony!
    With so many other possible scenarios due to his father's high military stature at that time, I remain skeptical of this lying weasel's veracity.
    Never before or since, in his lifetime has this pandered to piece of crap done anything approaching honorable.,

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    1. Anonymous2:03 PM

      Agree wholeheartedly. "Personal honor" and "political honor" are not what I would attribute to John McCain. He has ridden on others coattails all his life. According to many of his fellow captives in Vietnam he made sure that the captors knew who his father and grandfather were. In their opinions it was to get favors for himself. His visit at the Hanoi Hilton was not something anyone would want but again, according to the reports of many, he made the most of it.
      He was in the bottom 5 of his graduating class at the military academy, he has been involved in many scandals during his time in the Senate. All duly reported on at the time.
      In addition he treated his former wife so badly that Ronald and Nancy Regan, who were friends of the McCains, would have nothing more to do with him although they stayed friends with his ex-wife.
      He crashed several multi- million dollar airplanes.There is a great in-depth article in Rolling Stone that chronicles this information. It's several years old but is in their archives. Worth reading.

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    2. Anonymous2:28 PM

      absolutely right - the screaming SONGBIRD should have been called out on his actions.

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    3. betsy s2:45 PM

      You forgot to mention the hot-dogging incident that created the disastrous fire on the USS Forrestal. Dad the Admiral whisked McCain off the carrier while they were still counting the dead.
      Google.

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    4. Anonymous5:03 PM

      Google Keating Five. McCain's integrity, what little he had even then, was compromised before he had done jack-shit in the Senate. Graft and corruption in Arizona has always had McCain on its side. He's never been a man of the people. Just a failed service man, pilot, husband and politician. Never an honorable man, and only got the opportunities because of his pedigree, which his father and grandfather EARNED. McCain never measured up yo his father and has now shamed his family name. Not much of a man. Never was. He should've been put out to pasture long ago. Now he's just a miserable old jerk with no sense of reality.

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  4. Chenagrrl1:07 PM

    Yup. It was classic Black Man in White House syndrome, usually accompanied by selective memory.

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  5. Speaking of an old bitter man hating on the President....Baldy just sharted this on Twitter...

    " Sarah PalinVerified
    ‏@SarahPalinUSA
    You won't move forward if you keep letting things from your past bring you down! God forgave you!"

    Hmmm....did "God forgave" the bald fella for faking the birth of Trig?? Plus...WTF is she trying to "move forward" to? That crazy bitch is DONE...FINITO...FINISHED...THE END....it's time to STFU...go in your dirty funky ass room and count your coin Baldy! LOL!!

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    1. Anonymous1:37 PM

      Welcome back, Gina!

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    2. Anonymous1:41 PM

      When your past includes a faked pregnancy for political gain, God has a lot to forgive.

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    3. Anonymous1:41 PM

      What the hell is she talking about?

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    4. Anonymous1:54 PM

      Hey Gina! Good to see ya! Welcome back from your amazing trip to DC, we've missed ya!

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    5. Anonymous2:11 PM

      yeee haaaw..Good day for the pee-pond...their queen threw them a bone..

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    6. Anonymous2:40 PM

      Missed ya Gina!

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    7. Yes we have you Gina! Welcome back!!!

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    8. S'up. Gina M?

      Why'd u let Beyonce do the Milli Vanilli thang? Never mind. I was over that one before the whiners got started hardly.

      Good to see u and your penguin avatar. Krusty has been acting up, but not nearly as much as Creepy Chuckie Jr. He needs a boot up his ass if u can spare one. I'd do it myself if I could find my spurs.

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  6. Anonymous1:09 PM

    Hagel will be all right. McCain knows it. But, jeez, John cool the jets. You are overdoing it.

    FWIW, John respects President Obama.

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    1. Anonymous1:58 PM

      Well, then he should start acting like it. Feelings mean nothing without action.

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  7. WakeUpAmerica1:13 PM

    McCain is nothing more than an arrogant, entitled, bitter, old man.

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    1. How about piece of shit that almost had the most unqualified VP in the White House. Jesus H Christ. McCain needs to go away and bathe in his "laurels" on somebody elses nickel. This is the USofA. Not some backbiting,grudge holding contest Republic. I am ashamed to include you with the phrase "American".

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    2. Anonymous1:42 PM

      You hit the nail right on it's head.

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  8. Anonymous1:15 PM

    IMO: they really hate Hagel because he will definitely definitely definitely keep us from going to war in the Middle East. And that's one of the things GOPers use to appease their base, talk about war with Iran.

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    1. betsy s2:47 PM

      Please remember McCain, "Bomb, bomb, bomb--bomb Iran"...

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    2. Anonymous3:06 PM

      McCain, "Bomb, bomb, bomb--bomb Iran"...

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg

      McCain Responds to "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran" Video

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeThckstKNE

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  9. Pat in MA1:18 PM

    Yet another example of why this man was not fit to hold the office of President! How many more armed conflicts would we be in at this point with his volatile temperament at the helm? He is a bully who holds grudges and never lets go.

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  10. Anonymous1:18 PM

    In addition to being senile John McCain looks like he is on some heavy duty medication. I get so tired of hearing him. Every time any news organization wants a Washington opinion, they go to John McCain who, in his best years, was never very bright and now he's simply beyond the bend.
    Beaglemom

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  11. Anonymous1:40 PM

    what's johnny boy doin' in that pic, snappin' one off ?

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  12. Anonymous1:43 PM

    War hero, pffft! After crashing planes and finishing next to last in his class, he's been riding coattails his whole life to get where he is today. He and Palin were a matched set and SHE will be what he is remembered for. No wonder he's bitter, and no one to blame but himself. Crotchety old buzzard.

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  13. Anonymous1:44 PM

    "John McCain's vicious interrogation of his old friend Chuck Hagel"

    John McCain's concept of friendship is as distorted as his view of patriotism. John McCain selected a stupid, ignorant, mentally unstable person to run with him. It was treason.

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  14. angela1:58 PM

    What a sad man McCain is. Not only will he now be known as the man who picked the nutty, bitter, quitter---he will also be known as just plain pathetically bitter himself.

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  15. our lad1:59 PM

    This man checked his love of country and honor at the door when he put Mrs. Palin on the ticket. She is his leper bell and the fuckin thing will hang on his neck throughout history. When his time as a POW is long forgotten his reckless decision to run an unstable sociopath for high office will remain an indelible stain on what will be left of his legacy.

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    1. betsy s2:49 PM

      Hear, hear. If this was Facebook, I'd Like AND Share.

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    2. Anonymous5:32 PM

      Dear Our Lad- You, Sir, are a brilliant medievalist! Leper Bell, indeed! Leading the way down the gangplank to the Ship of Fools!

      Palin is the plague that keeps on plagueing!

      Wild Tortoise

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  16. Anonymous2:01 PM

    McCain should be behind bars for the S & L scam he orchestrated in Arizona years ago. He has NEVER been honorable. He has always been a slimy politician and husband. His entire 'myth' was created by a biographer. He is a disgrace and I hope history reflects this fact. He's not only a nasty, out of control bully, he is a lying bastard.

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  17. Anonymous2:05 PM

    John McCain angrily insisted on "right" and "wrong" answers to his questions of Chuck Hagel yesterday. As a theologian and a religious leader, I want to say that John McCain is "wrong."

    I watched the hostile questions that Sen. McCain asked Hagel in the hearings on his nomination for Secretary of Defense. The angry attacks from McCain were about the Iraq War, for which McCain was one of America's leading advocates. Hagel had previously called the war in Iraq the biggest American foreign policy mistake since Vietnam. Obviously furious, McCain tried to force Hagel to say the last "surge" in Iraq, which McCain had made his cause, was right after all. Despite the aggressive and disrespectful questioning from his former "friend," Hagel wouldn't submit to McCain's demands and said these questions would be subject to history -- and to theological morality, to which John McCain has never submitted his views. In fact, his repeated desire to invade other people's countries is offensive moral hubris.

    Let me state some clear convictions from many of us in the faith community. The war in Vietnam was morally wrong. The war in Iraq was morally wrong. And John McCain has been morally wrong on both of them.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-wallis/john-mccains-theology-of_b_2600862.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

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  18. Anonymous2:05 PM

    Obama won *again* get over it...This is driving him and bff insane...I love watching these 2 idiots go down..

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  19. Anonymous2:13 PM

    Idaho gun-nut lawmakers freak out over man with gun in state Capitol (irony alert)

    This story is beyond priceless. Idaho gun-nut lawmakers are very disturbed about an armed man who walked around the state Capitol building, alongside a tour of Cub and Boy Scouts, in part because he was armed.

    And so what? I thought guns made us safer. Why should it matter if the man was armed? He was simply exercising his Second Amendment rights, right? Sure, he might have had plans to murder all the kids, or take out a few state legislators, but that’s the price you pay for our precious constitutional freedoms.

    Seriously though, after you read through the story, it’s still not clear, from a gun-nut perspective, what the problem is here? If the guy was creepy because he was tagging along with a bunch of kids, and going through legislators’ desks (another part of the story), then fine, he’s creepy. But the fact that he was armed should have nothing to do with the creepiness because, remember, guns don’t kill people. And in fact, the Idaho state Capitol lifted an earlier ban on bringing firearms into the building, so what’s the problem? He was simply following the expressed intent of the Idaho gun-loving legislature.

    As for the Cub and Boy Scouts, there’s an easy solution to the creepy factor here. Just arm the kids too. And any of the legislators who were creeped out about their own personal safety should simply carry guns as well. Then the entire building would be armed to the teeth and picture-perfect safe.

    Look at some of the comments from the gun-nut legislators:


    “Events like that should disturb all Idahoans,” said House Speaker Scott Bedke, R-Oakley. “It certainly disturbed me.”

    Senate President Pro Tem Brent Hill said: “To think that somebody is bold enough to have followed these children around with a sidearm in plain sight — who is also bold enough to go through trash cans, take pictures of representatives’ desks and shuffle their papers — all of that created a great deal of concern.”

    Did you catch that? Senate President Pro Tem Brent Hill indicated that part of the problem was that the man had a “sidearm.” So what? He’s supposed to have a sidearm – he’s a gun nut, and in Idaho you don’t restrict a gun nut’s ability to parade around with his gun, even in the state Capitol. So why did Hill mention it? This is especially odd since Brent Hill is a proud champion of the gun nuts. Take a look at Brent Hill’s record on gun issues – 100% pure gun nut:

    http://americablog.com/2013/01/idaho-gun-nut-lawmakers-freak-out-over-gun-nut-in-the-state-capitol-even-though-guns-are-permitted.html

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  20. Anonymous2:14 PM

    Speaking of kids on the lawn the Children's Defense Fund rated McCain as the worst senator in Congress for children. He voted against the children's health care bill last year, then defended Bush's veto of the bill.

    http://pol.moveon.org/mccain10/thanks.html?id=-17340335-0gXtorx

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  21. Anonymous3:02 PM

    This pathetic selfish old man has become a disgrace to everything that he supposedly honors. He is a Bully and a Coward, who is desperately trying to rewrite his legacy. He will never live up to his father or his grandfather, so he tries to inflate his self-esteem, by pushing around others. He is relevant only in his own mind, and in the mind of his boy toy Lindsey Graham. They both should be called before the Senate Ethics Committee, and forced to issue an apology to both Susan Rice and Chuck Hagel. We have tolerated this behavior for too long. I'm planning on writing to someone in the US Senate, to express my dissatisfaction with how these two children conduct themselves. We as Americans deserve better than this.

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  22. Anonymous3:14 PM

    John McCain is a low life scumbag. He's never been anything BUT that. He has done more damage to this country than most and has dishonestly promoted himself as some sort of hero. He isn't. He's a snitch, a bully and a danger to this country. He sullied any possible reputation with his treasonous vp pick and the fact that he 'stands by' that choice should take him out of the game completely, he should be prosecuted for criminal acts against the country and thrown in jail the rest of his life. He abandoned POW's in Nam, lied about what he knew and then 'sealed' the records to cover his ass. He is vile beyond words and a disgrace to all things honorable or ethical. Karma will make him her bitch, you watch.

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    1. Anonymous4:46 PM

      Karma IS his bitch, and her name is Sarah Heath Palin.

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  23. Anonymous7:26 PM

    Jose Antonio Vargas On John McCain: Gay Undocumented Journalist Criticizes Senator's Immigration Stance (VIDEO)

    Jose Antonio Vargas, the Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist who made headlines in 2011 when he revealed that he is an undocumented immigrant, had harsh words for Sen. John McCain on Thursday.

    Speaking to HuffPost Live, Vargas criticized McCain for stating that LGBT rights should not be a priority in proposed immigration reform. McCain reportedly said such social issues could "derail" reform and asked "Which is more important: LGBT or border security?" at an event sponsored by Politico on Wednesday.

    "That's a staggering quote," said Vargas, who is gay and immigrated to the United States from the Philippines at the age of 12.

    Vargas told HuffPost Live's Jacob Soboroff that one reason immigration laws are broken today is because they threaten to separate same-sex binational couples, even those who have married legally under state law.

    "I can't marry my way into citizenship like straight people can," Vargas said. "I can get married in the state of New York where I live, but because of the Defense of Marriage Act, the federal government, which hands out visas, won't recognize my marriage."

    Following President Barack Obama's inclusive inaugural address, Vargas said it would be wrong to think you can ignore the LGBT community in immigration reform.

    "It's not like you can choose," Vargas told HuffPost Live. "My being gay is not a social issue, it's a fact. It's not something to be debated. It's a reality. Sen. McCain is a leader and he's a leader of a border state, which means he understands the complexity of this issue. I really hope that as we have this debate, as we have this conversation, a conversation by the way that is all about defining who an American is, that we really have the tough conversations here."


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/01/jose-antonio-vargas-john-mccain-lgbt-immigration_n_2601518.html

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  24. Anita Winecooler9:53 PM

    He really looked awful during that rant, and I kept thinking "Wow, And I thought he was crazy when he picked Baldy.." The old geezer must have ruptured a few 'roids!!!
    We really dodged two bullets when Palin sunk the ticket!
    Speaking of Crazy, how about Lidsey Graham? That's what's become of the GOP, a bunch of sore losers!

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  25. Anonymous10:19 AM

    McCain is a total asshole and jerk! That picture of him should be circulated nationwide...he looks in it just like he acts...pure evil! He and Palin match perfectly!

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