Hillary Clinton would defeat three potential Republican presidential candidates if the 2016 presidential election were held today, with New Jersey Gov. Christopher Christie second in a field of three Democrats and three Republicans selected by Quinnipiac University for a national poll released today.
Vice President Joseph Biden and New York's Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo would not fare nearly as well, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds.
The Republicans tested also include Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida and U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin.
Former First Lady, Senator, and Secretary of State Clinton wins easily against any of the Republicans, topping Christie 45 - 37 percent; leading Rubio 50 - 34 percent and besting Ryan 50 - 38 percent.
"Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton would start a 2016 presidential campaign with enormous advantages," said Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute. "She obviously is by far the best known and her more than 20 years in the public spotlight allows her to create a very favorable impression on the American people. But it is worth noting that she had very good poll numbers in 2006 looking toward the 2008 election, before she faced a relative unknown in Barack Obama."
Yeah but let's face it, NONE of these three is on par with Barack Obama. Not even close!
Besides THIS Hillary has much more gravitas and respect than the Hillary of 2008 could even have hoped for. In other words, this is NOT your parent's Hillary Clinton anymore.
Here is my prediction.
I think that barring any serious health concerns that Hillary runs in 2016. NOBODY with numbers like this, who has wanted it as long as Hillary has, could possibly walk away from this opportunity.
If she does I doubt that either Christie of Rubio will decide to take her on.
However if she does run all eyes will turn to Jeb Bush who the Republicans will see as their ONLY shot at taking back the White House. (With a shiny new female VP in tow as well.)
And I think Jeb is ready for this fight. He MUST already know that Hillary will be the Democrat's choice and yet he is not at all shy about letting people know that he intends to run. I think that his cons far outweigh his pros however, and though he might be able to put up a better fight than ANY other potential GOP contender, in the end he is destined to hit the canvas like a wet bag of cement. "Whap!"
All I can say for sure is that, for Democrats at least, 2016 is looking very good indeed.
Indeed. Hillary is the most knowledgeable person on the planet regarding our government, our security, world leaders, world politics, and she is tough as nails. I can just hear the right trying to bring up Benghazi (her "I take full responisbility" will be replayed ad nauseum by them) but she has survivied Bill's escapades, a Senate run that people thought she couldn't win, a nasty and prolonged campaign in 2008, and so much more. And the argument against 'another Clinton' is pretty moot if they run Bush the Third, don't you think? And women are mobilized in a way we have never been. The GOP attacks on our uteri and our brains have got to be stopped (and not with assault weapons.) Run Hillary. Your time is now.
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Rand (aka Aqua Buddha") is randy enough to think hie can win with his sodden cupful of teabaggers.
ReplyDeleteRand Paul has all the gravitas of 2012's Donald Trump. And is even more delusional.
DeleteI am glad Gryphen highlighted Rand Paul's 13 hour talking filibuster as what it really was, a fund-raiser for his future political aspirations -- but it doesn't bode well that so many Dems, other Republicans, Beltway pundits and heretofore sane progressives lauded the "principle" of the filibuster. I can't believe they didn't recognize what he was doing...
I'm all for Hillary and I'm glad she is taking time off to rest and plan her strategy. If Jeb Bush is all they got then it does look pretty good for Dems. Hillary will get some key voting blocks like, all women, black and hispanic men, those who identify as LBGTQ. The list goes on. All of the people the Right loves to hate. Sorry old white guys, America is ours!!
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I just can't help having a pit in my stomach...worried that the Rwing Nutjobs will pull something dastardly...just to win.
My concern with Ms. Clinton has always been that there is noone who has the ability to galvanize the right wing together in opposition that she has.
ReplyDeleteConsidering the current state of the Republican party, frankly she's their only hope.
In 2008 the sense of fait accompli of the Clinton Campaign in the early stages of the Democratic Primary served as effective and useful cover for The President's own primary campaign. Perhaps she can provide the same in 2016 for another candidate like Governor Martin O'Malley or any of the other very qualified candidates we have waiting in the bullpen.
Poll: Rubio Trails Hillary Big Time Among Latinos
ReplyDeleteHillary Clinton holds a dominant lead among Latino voters with Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) in a head to head matchup for president, according to a new national poll that could impact a fierce debate within the GOP over immigration.
The survey, conducted by Quinnipiac University, tested a variety of possible 2016 pairings with 1,944 registered voters and had a margin of error of +/-2.2 percent. Clinton lead Rubio by a 50-34 margin, including 60-24 among Latino voters. Rubio performed worse than Chris Christie overall, who trailed Clinton 45-37 nationally, and only slightly better with Latinos, where Christie was down 62-23. Paul Ryan also performed weak against Clinton, losing 50-38 in an overall matchup and even worse with Latino voters, 69-21.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/03/poll-rubio-trails-hillary-big-time-among-latinos.php?ref=fpb
Everytime I hear about Jeb Bush, it sends a shiver down my spine. I watched a great video (sorry I forget where) titled...."What was so great about Ronald Reagan?" Reagan spent billions (w a B) arming/training/organizing the Afghans (Bin Laden) to fight the Soviets, which worked forcing the Soviets into bankruptcy, etc. Who was the CIA director...Poppy Bush, what a suprise! When Iraq invaded Kuwait...the Saudis asked their good friend (member of the Carlyle Group of oil and DOD investors) President Poppy Bush to get them out. By this time Bin Laden had a major following and offered to help...but the Saudis wanted America. Just think of the money made by the Carlyle Group invested in oil and war...wow, another suprise. Having American boots on Middle East soil infuriated Bin Laden..and we all know what came next. Let us all remember who the governor of Fla was when Dubya was given the presidency by Fla and the supreme court, watching Sandra Day O'Conner hawk her book this week was sickening....she gave Dubya the job, but has no regrets. Then we have the 8 years of Dubya.....who almost destroyed this country, not to mention thousands of lives lost, again with no regrets. The entire Reagan/Bush legacy should be taught in history class. The well documented 30 year decline in the middle class started with Reagan and the Bushs just finished the job. America finally started waking up....Jeb Bush 2014? I don't think so.
ReplyDelete"...watching Sandra Day O'Conner hawk her book this week was sickening....she gave Dubya the job, but has no regrets."
DeleteI agree. No kidding, I was watching O'Connor do a Cheney-like doubling down on her SCOTUS vote when interviewed by Rachel Maddow. Maddow seemed nonplussed that O'Connor seemed to be channelling Cheney -- but didn't argue with her or challenge her.
Respect? Or at a loss for words?
Sandy was a Neicon when she came in and when she departed, she was even more political animal. She is no more or less a success or to be revered than George W Bush. Personal accomplishment? Yes, nice resume. Did she play politics at the end that didn't sway the four but turned it on one side. No question about it. Does Sandy feel any resentment at those who used her pending retirement strictly as a tool to get a neocon cloaked in a robe as her replacement to exploit the.checks and balances that our government requires? No, Sandy wanted to help dumb-dick make a few bucks, not spit in his face for stacking the deck to the point of irreparable harm to our political system with Citizens United. She was a good, loyal GOP loyalist when the US needed Country above Self and Country above Party. She could maybe have feigned ignorance at the time, but the fact that she was so supportive of those who wronged the country... Puts her in the same shit pile with the known known crowd of war criminals that I am still disappointed for not holding responsible for their crimes. It's kind of haunting the response that Elizabeth Warren got from the GOP about lack of accountability. When you encourage a behavior by removing the fear of sanctions, you are complicit in the future repititions of the behavior because you rewarded them, not cut them off at the fucking knees.
DeleteI don't see how Jeb Bush would have a chance due to how horrible his brother was as President. The Bush name is toxic. Amazing the Republicans would think him to be "their' candidate against Hillary Clinton.
ReplyDeleteThe press would be horrible about Bush and Hillary will win (by a landslide!), which is more than fine w/me!
SHARON @ 6:57 AM Keep reading. Just a couple of factual errors on timelines but not in context. You're hitting big topics within topics in your comment but space limitations force me to truncate some general thoughts here, so sorry in advance.
ReplyDeleteIf you enjoy reading and haven't read --->The Family ( Kitty Kelly -author) fascinating background Re. The Bush dynasty. There's gossip stuff in there that she dug for that I cared nothing about, but she did so much research.s
Also note: re "The Family": 7 or 8 books w same title, diff subs. - another "The Faimily" re CStreet in DC is and an awesome book on a related, often-related general topic of Power) trip when I ran across Kitty Kelly's. Note: Ive had to lop off quite a bit here bc of the character length constraints do pls ignore the jumpiness of the text. Two more key words from portions I cut: "Family of Secrets" Russ Baker; "Nixonland"-Rick Perlstein.
Yes, poppy was CIA, and it's difficult to know just how far back it goes, but there are official transcripts that he has given contradicting answers to that brings into question certain narratives that they have hung their hate on since "poppy went down to Texas".
Bush41 was appointed dir of CIA (DCI) by Ford for the last yr of his partial term after Nixon resigned. William Colby was the top spook (DCI) who preceded poppy. Colby was lifetime intelligence officer, and a relative ( his son Carl, IIRC) produced a documentary a couple of years ago. This is off the top of my head, but the jist of it with some of the things you mentioned. There's so much info that you (or I, I should say) have to have a lot of things verified through multiple sources, even if you are using an excellent, 99% reliable, ethical source. Because these guys are big on cover stories, and they are good at alibis that are tight because they were often at places that were hot, very hot. So, this is just an idea from one "real, no-spin, no BS history buff" to another". I enjoy finding the inconsistencies myself, to determine the reasons for person A writing a report on official memoranda that indicated person B was in location X but person B's sworn testimony to senate intelligence committee was that they were on an assignment I location Y according to travel logs, etc. With so many documents becoming available, some will be redacted of certain information, but another related document might reveal benign info that helps identify the person whose name or location is redacted.
The reason I mention this is that you'll discover who was deceived and the "official" history will be recorded in newspapers by reporters and wire services, sometimes who were witnesses, but often from govt sources. Sometimes the info is "harmless", protecting classified secrets of the day that were released to the public 20 years later bc the technology that was being developed for military has now been transfeOrred to industry, and might be in mass production or even obsolete. But even in those matters, I look at what data can be gleaned, because on routing forms are names, project codes, dates and info about part of a classified project which might still be classified today. You hit on some of the most fascinating topics that might never be in history book texts as it should, but full disclosure is not a constitutional requirement for govt. Even if it is, lying to a certain segment is fine and expected, but when govt agencies have turf battles, info leaks. Disinfo leaks just as much, so being able to catch it before you spend a lot of time in a rabbit hop serves two functions: 1) Saves incredible amt of time in a maze with no cheese; 2) if you can filter through what some of these people & associates were REALLY doing and where they were, it changes history. It might not matter that much 10, 20, 30, 40 even 50 yrs later regarding that particular matter, because what's done is done. -> global. Like peeling an onion. TC.
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There is one con Jeb Bush will never overcome.
ReplyDeleteHe is George Bush's brother.
I doubt any man could win against Hillary. The GOP already has it's secret weapon off in the wings, and will everyone be surprised! The GOP is running Sarah Palin.
ReplyDeleteYou heard it here first!
Seriously, Christie can't run, the GOP will never forgive him for warming up to President Obama during the hurricane, he's their best chance, but they won't do it.
And Jeb may have experience, but the last name is flawed. The GOP has so much wrong with it, and four years isn't enough time to fix it.
I wonder how hard it would hit ole Jeb if Texas went BLUE in 2014? Now would THAT be a comedy to watch!
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