Sunday, March 24, 2013

On Meet the Press Ralph Reed indicates that the Evangelicals are digging in their heels and refusing to move on the issue of marriage equality. Update!

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You know as I listened to what he said this morning my first thought was "Good, let the Evangelicals keep the Republican party from moving toward acceptance of the gay community. all that means is more lost elections for them, and more seats in the House and Senate for Democrats."

It will be interesting to watch as the practical people within the party, assuming there are some of those left of course, and the aggressively ideologically religious faction fight this one out. It cannot help but be a bloodbath of almost epic proportions.

If the religious, ie homophobic, group hold out long enough they will essentially damage the Republican brand beyond repair, and ensure that they will not survive much past the 2016 election cycle.

And the funny thing is that allowing gays to marry is only ONE of the issues in which they are light years behind the rest of the country. They are also dragging their feet on climate change, gun control, immigration, health care, and financial reform. ANY one of of those issues could cause them serious harm moving forward, but taken together, I simply do not see how the party can survive in its current manifestation.

Anybody disagree with that?

Update: Just  to drive my point home this is what John Boehner had to say about the Affordable Care Act just the other day:

Despite trying and failing to repeal Obamacare almost 40 times since it passed 3 years ago, House Republicans are not finished. House Speaker John Boehner marked the three-year anniversary of the law’s passage by saying that “The House will continue working to scrap the law in its entirety.” 

“This week, the House passed Republicans’ balanced budget that fully repeals and defunds ObamaCare to protect families, workers and seniors from its devastating consequences. The House will continue working to scrap the law in its entirety, and will use oversight authority to expose its harmful impacts as they continue to unfold,” Boehner said in a statement.

Nope, never gonna learn.


  1. Anonymous10:12 AM

    With statistics showing a marked increase in people in favor of marriage equality, especially among the younger generation, I'd say both the republican party and the evangelical sects are in trouble.

    If I believed in a God, I'd be thanking it right now.

  2. No disagreement here.

    I wish that Ralph Reed would be caught tapping his toes in a lonely bathroom stall, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least. I recall him being the mastermind of the Evangelical resurgence in America. Before he gave them legitimacy, they existed, but they sort of sulked around grumbling to themselves.

    1. Anonymous12:17 PM

      This little freak should have been jailed along with his business partner Jack Abramof. They defrauded the Indian tribes out of Millions of $$$. So "evengelical" of him, doncha think? These religious frauds keep getting away with their schemes. Reed ran for governor of Georgia, but the voters already had his number. They NEVER just go away and get REAL jobs, always figuring out ways to live for free on others people's money. Of course the "left leaning media" (!!) keep giving them a platform to spew their propoganda.

  3. angela10:57 AM

    Its time for the GOP to throw off the evangelicals. It has really only been a recent phenomena (thirty or so years) that the religious right has been courted. It was a self defeating move. They have done more to destroy the GOP than even the kamikaze teabaggers.

    Fiscal conservatism does not go hand in hand with social conservatism. As a matter of fact they are really the antithesis of each other. In fiscal conservatism many want to basically starve the poor---whereas once upon a time religious groups wanted to empower the poor and help them---not corporations. But its all about the money now with the inception of the megachurchs. The poor can get stuffed if you listen to these idiots.

    So Ralph Reed (who is a crook) should just go grift elsewhere and be homophobic at home (where he hopefully has no gay children who are suffering).

  4. Anonymous11:20 AM

    It's ironic that evolution is the only thing that will save the GOP.

  5. Anonymous11:35 AM

    The Republicans have no chance of redemption by 2016! Their social policies are so far out of stream w/the younger people. Just look at what is going on across the nation - the Republican led states (governors and legislatures) are tightening up the abortion rules. I do not think they have time to get back in line w/the majority for a number of years to come. God, did they read the population wrong just as they did the last presidential election. They are truly a sorry bunch only listening to their own!

    Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren here we come!!! And, thank you President Obama and VP Biden for doing such an outstanding job in spite of the obstructionists in the U.S. Congress! Vote the Republicans out folks in the next two election cycles.

    1. And there's nearly four more years for these kids to reach voting age if they aren't there already.

  6. Anonymous11:55 AM

    Gryph, Please, it is time to stop using the broad sword of the "evangelical" label and consciously use the more refined & more narrowly focused labels of "dominionism (& reconstructionism) and "New Apostolic Reformation(NAR) for this aspect of the religious right.

    Leah Burton's blog: God's Own Party? is sitting right there to the left of this post in your blog roll. Since you've posted about Ralph Reed, how about spotlighting Leah & her exceptional work? Thanks.

  7. Cracklin Charlie12:04 PM

    With any luck, the coming showdown between the neo-conservatives and the fundamentalist bigots and homophobes will, in fact, be a bloodbath of Biblical proportions! There won't be enough popcorn on the planet.

    Boehner is an absolute shill for the big-time insurance industry leaders. I believe the insurance industry is in full-blown panic mode over the coming mass exodus of their customers to the government run insurance exchanges. They may NEVER stop trying to repeal Obamacare (I told them not to call it that); at least until their customer's insurance purchasing dollars are all gone to the national health care program.

    Couldn't happen to a more blood thirsty bunch of oligarchs.

    Thanks, Obama!

  8. Anonymous12:06 PM

    Boehner is an idiot. This law is , and has been upheld by the SC. Defund away, Johnny, but it will still be there. And we need it. It would be one thing if the GOP were for single payer, Medicare for all, which would be cheaper, but they have NOTHING regarding health care...except to take more away and allow only people working for big companies access. What a total bunch of a-holes. Every one of them.

  9. Jack Abramoff Jr. Should NOT SPEAK FOR ANYONE !!! He should be serving his prison term in SuperMax Colorado for the rest of his life.

  10. Anonymous12:53 PM

    Please don't forget abortion/women's freedom when speaking of the religious fundamentalist hold on the GOP.

    If you're interested, Bill Moyers has done a great job of exposing Ralph Reed.

    1. Outstanding video. Motivated by greed and money-lust, all in the name of the Lord!! Hallelujah!!

  11. Anonymous1:22 PM

    Reed is like Palin, the inside is seeping out and it is showing him for what he really is - ugly. He used to look like a choir boy who had his Mommy pick out his clothes. Now he looks like a tired, worn out shill with bags under his eyes and skin looking flabby. (too much booze?) Neither of them will ever give up grifting and actually WORK for a living.

  12. Anonymous1:24 PM

    That Boehner is an alcoholic asshole. How he ever became speaker of the house amazes me. He doesn't work hard - takes too many vacations - makes way too much money - has benefits the rest of us don't and has done nothing but become rich since serving in the U.S. Congress.

    He needs to be dumped quickly (next election cycle he is in)!!!

  13. The evangelical wing of the GOP is digging alright.....but it's not their heels. They're digging the grave of the party.

  14. Anonymous1:38 PM

    Sunday Shows Respond to the Popularity of Same Sex Marriage By Hosting Anti-Gay Bigots

    Ralph Reed on Meet The Press claiming that it is better for children when gays aren’t allowed to marry.

    On Face The Nation, Tony Perkins and Austin Nimocks kept pretending that the nation is split on the issue of same sex marriage. Perkins repeated the right wing point that same sex marriage would be harmful to American families. For good measure, Perkins also threw in the churches are losing their religious freedom argument.

    On CNN’s State of the Union, Nimocks argued that civil rights should be denied so that social conservatives can vote to deny them to gay people.

  15. Anita Winecooler1:42 PM

    I loved Hillary Rosen's response after he spouted "75 percent Obama voters are pro gay marriage, 75 percent Romney voters are against gay marriage"
    Looks like I'll have to go back and start watching MTP again, this exchange kind of makes me like David Gregory a little.

    OT Wayne LaPierre's exchange was pretty good on MTP. Looks like Bloomberg's funding of these ads has him in a tizzie!

  16. Paul - Minnesota4:08 PM

    All they did is dig their heels in a little deeper. Being against marriage equality in their USA Taliban mix isn't a great stretch or leap for them.

    They're against so much already.

  17. Anonymous5:30 PM

    You forgot women's rights (equal) and reproductive choice.

  18. Anonymous7:34 PM

    Family values disaster in Paris as anti-gay protesters attack police, use kids as human shields

    "Unbelievable. Anti-gay “family values” protesters in Paris today got violent with the local police during a large anti-gay-marriage protest, and then used their nursery school age children as some kind of human shield to challenge the police."


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