Wednesday, April 24, 2013

Rand Paul pulls a 180 on drone strikes directed at American citizens: "If someone comes out of a liquor store with a weapon and $50 in cash, I don’t care if a Drone kills him or a policeman kills him." Wait, what?

"Shh, don't wake it, it's sleeping."
Courtesy of The Hill:

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said Tuesday that he would have supported police using drones in last week's hunt for Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, one of the brothers suspected in the Boston Marathon bombing. 

"If there is a killer on the loose in a neighborhood, I’m not against drones being used to search them," Paul told Fox Business Network. 

Last month, Paul conducted a nearly 13-hour filibuster on the Senate floor after the Obama Administration said in a letter that it was theoretically possible for President Obama to authorize a lethal drone strike on an American citizen under "extraordinary circumstances." The administration subsequently clarified that they did not believe the president had the authority to "use a weaponized drone to kill an American not engaged in combat." 

Paul said that the question of an "imminent threat" was the pivotal one when considering drone policy. 

“Here’s the distinction — I have never argued against any technology being used against having an imminent threat an act of crime going on," Paul said. "If someone comes out of a liquor store with a weapon and $50 in cash, I don’t care if a Drone kills him or a policeman kills him, but it’s different if they want to come fly over your hot tub, or your yard just because they want to do surveillance on everyone, and they want to watch your activities." 

Okay that "imminent threat" excuse does not hold any water in my opinion. What really seems to be the case is that Paul is perfectly fine with killing people, he just doesn't want anybody to spy on him while he is soaking his tiny Libertarian member in the hot tub.

Paul got ALL kinds of positive praise for holding in his urine for 13 hours to complain about the use of drone strikes,  which culminated with libertarians, college kids, and desperate pro-war Republicans throwing confetti all over his hairpiece.

But as far as I am concerned this statement the other day COMPLETELY undermines his argument, and provides ready made political advertisements for his future opponents.

And Paul, seeming to realize this, attempted to walk back his comments:

“My comments last night left the mistaken impression that my position on drones had changed. 

“Let me be clear: it has not. Armed drones should not be used in normal crime situations. They only may only be considered in extraordinary, lethal situations where there is an ongoing, imminent threat. I described that scenario previously during my Senate filibuster. 

“Additionally, surveillance drones should only be used with warrants and specific targets. 

“Fighting terrorism and capturing terrorists must be done while preserving our constitutional protections. This was demonstrated last week in Boston. As we all seek to prevent future tragedies, we must continue to bear this in mind.”

 No his comments did not "leave the impression" that his "opinions had changed." They stated it outright!  Or, to play devil's advocate, they demonstrated an example of blatant hypocrisy.

In other words it is NOT okay for the President to use drones, but totally cool for local law enforcement to use them to gun down a guy with a bottle of stolen Jack Daniels in one hand and a fifty dollar bill in the other. How's THAT work?

Look I am not a fan of the use of drones either, though to be fair I much prefer them over having our soldiers coming home in body bags. And I appreciate the fact that this conversation about the appropriate use of drones has started. (You can see Alex Wagner's report on yesterday's Senate hearings on drone strikes here.)

However if Rand Paul thinks that he is still the "go to guy" on the appropriate use of this new technology he is fooling himself

As for the drones being used on American soil, unlike Rand Paul I am MUCH more at ease with the idea of them flying over my hot tub than having them open fire on American citizens. Somehow the idea of the government sneaking a peek at my trouser snake is much preferable to the idea that they might instead shoot it off.

But hey, that's just me.

25 comments:

  1. Cracklin Charlie12:51 PM

    Randy's an idiot.

    And what is up with his hair?

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    1. Anonymous1:58 PM

      Presidential material for sure.

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    2. Anonymous3:11 PM

      That's not his hair. It's a snarl he pulled from the jacuzzi drain.

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  2. Anonymous1:04 PM

    Rand Paul: I Didn’t Flip-Flop On Drones

    http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/rand-paul-i-didnt-flip-flop-on-drones

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  3. Anonymous1:14 PM

    And THIS is how they treat a 19 year old standing up for a raise in minimum wage:

    Steve Kush, the chairman of Bernalillo County Republican Party in New Mexico, called a 19-year-old Working America volunteer a "radical bitch" on Twitter Tuesday night after she testified before the county commission in favor of raising the minimum wage.

    "Nice hat Working America chick but damn you are a radical bitch," Kush tweeted.

    Working America, a labor movement advocacy group, sent several members to the county meeting on Tuesday to advocate for a measure that would increase the county's minimum wage. As the organization’s state director, Chelsey Evans, stood in line to testify on the proposal, Kush disparaged her on his Facebook page.

    "Uh oh," he wrote, "another Working America chick...nice boots...I know she makes more than min wage." He later added in the comments, "she was hot enough to almost make me register democrat."

    ProgressNow New Mexico, a progressive advocacy organization, said on Wednesday that Kush should resign. “In a state run by one of the country’s most high-profile Republican women, the party’s leaders appear to see nothing wrong with misogynistic statements towards working women time and time again," said spokeswoman Marsha Garcia. "Mr. Kush should resign."

    “If the Republican Party wants to know why they have such a hard time connecting with young women, they should start by examining the very public way their leaders feel about young working women,” said executive director Pat Davis.

    ProgressNow New Mexico confirmed that the woman who was the target of Kush's first remark is 19 years old, but Working America said that she wished to remain anonymous.

    Kush did not respond to The Huffington Post's request for comment.

    Bob Cornelius, the county Republican party’s former executive director, replied to Kush's "nice boots" remark Tuesday by insinuating that Evans is a prostitute. "Maybe she uses those shoes to walk Central," he wrote under Kush's post, referring to a street that is notorious for prostitution. "Even in this economy she can exchange bumper cables for boots."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/24/steve-kush-new-mexico-gop-radical_n_3148039.html

    UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE! She's 19 for god's sake! And she's fulfilling her civic duty as well. These men are the SCUM of the earth! That's somebody's daughter he's talking about. I hope father goes after him with both barrels!

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    1. Anonymous1:56 PM

      Why do you think Sarah changed her attire to slutty grandma? RME.

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  4. Anonymous1:19 PM

    I think Rand was asleep during the last election, when every day Mitt Romney was caught on video flip flop flipping on the issue du jour. I was not a fan of his father, but at least the old coot took a position on something and stuck to it, no matter how crazy it was. The 2016 primaries aren't even close, and Rand has already backed himself into tight little corners on everything from drones to immigration that he's trying to flip himself out of.
    Virginia Voter

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    1. I'm confused. If "every day Mitt Romney was caught on video flip flop flipping on the issue du jour" how did the "old coot [take] a position on something and [stick] to it"?

      I didn't believe a word Mitt said (and neither did he) but how do you get your two points to work with each other? Color me puzzled.

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    2. Read the paragraph again, Albert. You might be able to figure it out.

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  5. Anonymous1:21 PM

    If you go 360 degrees, you end up where you are.
    However if you go 180 degrees, you face the other direction.

    Regardless, what kind of paranoia person believes the gov is going to be hunting liquor store bandits with drones?

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    1. Hah! You're totally right!

      Damn, that sounded so right in my head while I was typing it.

      Thanks for the correction, I fixed it.

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    2. Dinty2:17 PM

      I'd thought that as well, but then thought he might have changed back again on some other aspect of dronery that I'd missed, hence the 360. Just wait, it'll be 360 at some point....

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    3. Anonymous2:42 PM

      Actually, Rand just goes 360 all the time and he is so dizzy he doesn't even know what he is saying.

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    4. Anonymous4:43 AM

      Anon at 2:42 pm. That whizzing around 360 degrees all the time might explain Rand Paul's hair but how does one explain the eyebrows? They look drawn on. All he needs is a big red plastic nose and he can join a circus as a clown. Unfortunately his ideas are too dangerous and stupid for that.
      Beaglemom

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  6. Anonymous1:33 PM

    Is being peeped on in his hot tub this guy's main preoccupation? Aqua Buddha rages on...

    Aquatic (just not in THAT hot tub) Wild Tortoise

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    1. Anita Winecooler5:58 PM

      Oh Yeah, Paul's high on my list of "wanna peep on in his hot tub" list

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  7. Anonymous2:13 PM

    What's the matter with Rand? He already decided that a crime has been committed and he kills the guy. What if the guy bought a bottle of wine and they wrapped it in a brown paper bag, which was mistaken for the weapon. It was an expensive $50.dollar bottle of wine, so the guy paid with a $100. bill, and he was counting the $50. that was returned as change as Rand Paul decided that this was a robber and killed him. Yeah, it works for me.

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  8. Anonymous2:14 PM

    Sarah wants drones to shoot at bloggers and reporters.

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    1. Anonymous2:51 PM

      Sarah wants attention but no one gives a damn what she wants.

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  9. Anonymous2:40 PM

    This guy is a total jerk! Why there is anyone out there in the USA that would support him is beyond belief!!! Speaks horribly of people (including Rand) that we have living in our country,.

    It's so past time that we, as voters, clean up our Congress.

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    1. Leland2:52 PM

      Unfortunately for us, there are a lot of stupid people in the electing population who actually BELIEVE in what he wants to do - ALL of what he wants to do!

      Why? Because they are as stupid and ignorant as he is.

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  10. Anonymous3:20 PM

    "... snake" ??? BRAGGER!!!!!

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  11. Anonymous4:20 PM

    Drones: Why are they good enough to kill innocent civilians in other countries but not good enough to kill criminals here at home?

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  12. Anita Winecooler5:54 PM

    Beam me up Scotty...

    Meantime, back on the funny farm....

    http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/eric-bolling-attacks-rep-ellison-muslim-ap

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  13. Chenagrrl8:45 PM

    Wind him up, turn the crank and pop goes his mouth.

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