My children are gonna be taught to not commit fornication [before marriage] and that it is not acceptable and that it is a very major sin and that there will be very major consequences if they commit it.
Now, I’m gonna teach that unto my sons because I think it’s so important that they remain pure and that they keep their virginity until they get married…
I say I’ll teach that unto my sons and you say, well, aren’t you gonna teach that to your daughters? I’m gonna tell you this: It’s not gonna be humanly possible for anyone to commit fornication with my daughters. [Laughter] And you know what? You’re laughing but I’m not kidding… You say, what about when they go get a job? Well, they’re not going to get a job. Why would my daughters go get a job? What do they need a job for? You know what, I’m gonna pay for them, I’m gonna pay their bills. And you know what? When I’m done paying for them, their husband’s gonna pay for them. And I hope that he doesn’t fail in his responsibility to provide and send them off to work or something, but you know what, at that point, it’s none of my business. At that point, it’s not my responsibility. But you know what? When I pass off my daughters unto their husband, I’m gonna be able to guarantee that they’re a virgin because I’m gonna make it to where it’s not even humanly possible. Because I’m not gonna have them out gallivanting around town. I’m not gonna have them going off to work, and going out with all these people…
And you say, what if you don’t like the guy they’re dating? They’re not gonna be dating a guy that I don’t like. A guy that I don’t like is gonna get his face punched in. [Laughter]
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And you say, well why the double standard? Um, ’cause everything in the Bible’s a double standard?! ‘Cause I’m not a feminist?! ‘Cause men and women are different? ‘Cause my sons are gonna be taught to be independent. My daughters are gonna be taught not to be independent. [Fake crying noises] My sons are gonna be taught to go out and work hard and make a living! My daughters are gonna be taught to be a homemaker, okay? You don’t like that? Well, whatever, that’s what the Bible teaches…
Man is THIS guy in for a rude awakening!
The idea that shear force of will he can keep his daughter from dropping her panties for the first guy that manages to separate her from her parents is the kind of confidence that comes from arrogance and naivete.
And let's not even mention how repulsive it is that this guy places all of his daughter's value on her continued virginal "purity." Perhaps somebody should clue this guy into the fact that he is living in the 21st century.
"My children are gonna be taught to not commit fornication [before marriage] ..."
ReplyDeleteUm, it's not possible to commit fornication AFTER marriage.
...and "commit?"
DeleteIf that's who I think it is, that's Steven Anderson. He's the same guy who prayed for President Obama's death, and he's had several run-ins with border patrol. His wife actually writes a blog- stevenandersonfamily.blogspot.com
ReplyDeleteDid you look at her home schooling calendar/curriculum?
DeleteMan, talk about brainwashing. But they won't lack for organists for future church services since all children will learn to play the piano.
They're learning to read, write and spell using the bible (and of course, Christian home school books).
I'm sure no one is surprised they live in Arizona. I just hope they stay there.
There's a couple of other little arguments to his proposals as well. What if the sainted husband dies young?
ReplyDeleteMy dad died at 42, leaving my mom a widow with 5 kids still at home, the youngest only 6. She never worked, and when the Social Security for the kids ran out, she was SOL.
My son was killed in an accident at age 27, leaving his fiance and their daughter who just turned 2.
Hey, Preacher Man. Remember "acts of God"? What you're doing is mocking God, and you're setting yourself for a real smackdown.
True. Jerks like this often get a MAJOR smack down by God/Mother Nature/Karma/Whatever. It happens too often to be coincidence, heck, you could chart it, it happens so reliably.
DeleteSuppose this wonderful man that he approves of marries his daughter and then turns out to be not so wonderful. Suppose same man begins to abuse his precious daughter. He has created a situation where she is forced to remain in an abusive marriage because she is completely dependent.
DeleteAnd I would guarantee she would NEVER admit to her judgmental father that she wants a *gasp* divorce and needs to come home because she can't provide for her children.
Unfortunately, when the worst happens, it will be the daughters and the grandchildren who suffer the most from his distorted, antiquated view of life.
Happy to add in mine - father became disabled though chronic, incurable disease. Mom hadn't married until her thirties - worked inside and outside the home taking care of her parents. Fortunately, because of that past work expereince, she was able to support us, because disability never would have.
DeleteOMG! Wait until his little darly daughter rebels and skips out the window at night to be with her boyfriends. Wait until she comes home pregnant (how did that happen) and this daddy learns some guy was playing house with his virgin bubblehead daughter. Then his "50's housewife" bubble will burst.
ReplyDeleteExactly. He talks like someone who has NEVER raised teenagers. They always find a way around any "rules" parents make, unless they are robots? Maybe that is what this couple wants, robots, programmed by them. How sad for the kids. What ever happened to TRUST? Do they have any kids yet? They should move someplace that lives by the same rules as they do, except those places are bewcoming few and far between. Does his wife get a paycheck for her blog? Is that not considered work?
DeleteA friend of my daughter married a guy who sang in a Christian group. I hoped MY daughter could meet someone so nice. WRONG. She divorced him after he beat her up once too often.
DeleteThe tighter the chains, the harder the children will fight to break them.
Delete"except those places are bewcoming few and far between."
DeleteNot in the Middle east.
Or remember that woman from Canada who had the crazy blog about her anencephalic kid? Turned out it was her married preacher who knocked her up and skipped on any responsibility.
DeleteWhat are the odds, even threatened with Eternal Damnation, that one of hisdaughters catches a wfiff of freedom, and she's a goner.
ReplyDeleteThe same odds on a son thinking he'd like his wife to bring in extra income and maybe work outside their house.
What kind of a nitwit actually says "unto"?
ReplyDeleteA preacher kind of nitwit.
DeleteWhen I was a young woman, the most three most promiscuous women I knew were 2 preacher's kids and one from a very tightly controlled (by the man) conservative bible family. In conversations with two of them, one told me she was seeing everything her father wanted to keep her from and the other admitted she was going to "f@#k everything" she could in an effort to get even with her father.
ReplyDeleteThis guy doesn't have a clue. He won't even have to wait for karma - all it will take is becoming a teenager.
And, believe me, I know what I'm talking about.
So very true. Been THERE done that. My daughter was not going to live by anyone's rules but her own. He will not be able to stop his children from experiencing life, nor should he try to. If he trusts them, they will not let him down. At least not intentionally. RESPECT is what he needs to show others, not rigid rules and threats. Some young guys will give his daughter(s) a wide berth, rather than deal with him.I worked with a cute African American girl, who told me her story of getting pregnant as a teen. She was called before the Deacons at her church, and asked to explain her bad behaviour. Well, she gave them an earful. Told them that the Preacher's daughter wss pregnant before marriage, a couple of the Deacons also had pregnant, unmarried daughters, so where where THEY, expalining themselves?They were married by them, but still pregnant before marriage.
DeleteOh, and notice how his wife's interactions with his daughter don't even come into his equation?
ReplyDeletePeople like this guy make me sick. They don't see life as it is. They are walking around in a dream world circa 1830. Case in point.
ReplyDeleteI had a high school friend who came from one of these homes. Her father was a madman about his daughter's virtue. They could participate in no afterschool activities. No dates. No parties. If they wanted to hang with friends we had to go to their house. So basically, all the girls wanted to do was get the hell out of that house.
One of the sisters ended up with a biker (she ran away with him) they are still happily married with grandkids and she works as a social worker. One daughter is gay and left the state---I hear the father still won't have anything to do with her or her wife and children. My friend married the hardworking, quiet evangelical boy the father loved. Everyone found out when she had a breakdown about ten years later that he had been beating her for years and she could never get pregnant because of one of his beatings. I guess in the end the father got his wish because his daughter moved back in with him and his wife. She will be forever "virtuous". Probably jobless. And forever traumatized.
Some survive these nuts, some don't.
Brings to mind a bumper sticker I read a while ago "Lord, please protect me from you followers" How true.
DeleteWow, what a bumper sticker. How true.
DeleteAlso loved Anonymous 5:51's story about the African American gal who, when called to a public shaming, opened up about the congregation's hierarchy.
Rebellion and dysfunction seem to be the fruit of male-authoritarian type institutions – perhaps because such men do not know how to respect or relate to others.
"My children are gonna be taught to not commit fornication [before marriage] and that it is not acceptable and that it is a very major sin and that there will be very major consequences if they commit it."
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Well, all righty then.
That's all a parent has to say? Who knew?
When have adolescent hormones ever drowned out parental preaching?
This control freak is in for a surprise one way or another.
The kids will surprise! not behave as demanded/expected.
Or the little woman will run off with the UPS driver or maybe just take a hammer to Mr. Undoubtedly Delightful To Be Around All Day Every Day To Tell You When The Bible Says You Can Breathe In And Out.
"When I pass off my daughters unto their husband..."
ReplyDeleteWhenever somebody breaks into King James-style English, that's a sure sign that you're dealing with a psycho.
His poor kids! In other words, the girls not only won't have marketable skills, they will not be permitted to attend colege either. And we all know how stimulating an uneducated spouse is to one who has the degree and the good job. What a pitiful excuse for a father.
ReplyDeleteCan you say charlatan? The guy doesn't even have a college degree, let alone a seminary education..he memorizes the King James Bible, which is where he gets his views on women for. He's been married 12 years and they have seven kids...so we know what kind of work is wife does.From his church's web page:
ReplyDeletePastor Steven Anderson was born and raised in Sacramento, CA. At age 18, he travelled throughout Germany and Eastern Europe for 3 months serving in local independent Baptist churches, studying foreign languages, and getting experience in the ministry. It was on this trip that he met his future wife, Zsuzsanna, while out soul-winning in the streets of Munich, Bavaria. He eventually lead her to the Lord, and they were married shortly thereafter. They have been married for over 12 years, and God has blessed them with 7 beautiful children.
Pastor Anderson started Faithful Word Baptist Church on December 25, 2005. He holds no college degree but has well over 140 chapters of the Bible memorized word-for-word, including approximately half of the New Testament. Today, most Baptist churches are started by Bible colleges. However, the Bible makes it clear that the church is the pillar and ground of the truth, not a school. Faithful Word Baptist Church is a totally independent Baptist church, and Pastor Anderson was sent out by a totally independent Baptist church to start it the old-fashioned way by knocking doors and winning souls to Christ.
God has blessed Faithful Word Baptist Church tremendously. Thousands have been saved, many have been baptized, and many more have learned to win souls both door-to-door and in their daily lives.
He might try reading that half of the New Testament that he missed.
DeleteSo he was over in Europe for a whole THREE months, studying foreign languages? Yeah right! How many does this "brilliant" savior of souls speak? Oh, he might speak "in tongues" but those surely aren't languages... I don't need a spoon to be gagging.
DeleteThis sounds a lot like Sharia Law!
ReplyDeleteHey you, them thar Palins! Did you done commit that thar fornication before you was hitched?
ReplyDeleteGuess his daughters have no say in their lives.
ReplyDeleteGood luck with that.
He doesn't want daughters, he wants pets.
ReplyDeleteAnyone want to bet that at least one of his sons becomes abusive?
ReplyDeleteThat's exactly the type of mindset he's creating.
Why do men, especially writers who are men, feel free to denigrate women's sexual experiences by using phrases like "drop her panties, lift her skirts," and on and on.
ReplyDeleteUsing them in legitimate debate completely nullifies the point because it alludes to an underlying atttitude.
You're right. I prefer "cream her jeans."
DeleteWell, the panties really do need to get out of the way before the act can commence. Me, I don't bother with panties, commando is much more comfy, and expedient ;-)
DeleteYes, thank you. I found G's cavalier use of that term a bit disturbing when talking about a (future) teenage girl. I luv ya, Gryph, but this is a bit disrespectful.
DeleteGood luck with your teenaged daughters, dude! lol
ReplyDeleteIf they turn out looking anything like him he's not going to have to worry about anyone wanting to fornicate with them ;-)
ReplyDeleteIn my experience with these religious freaks so focused on their kids virginity, the patents are exorcising their shameful ( to them) pasts. They have history of promiscuity, STDs , unwanted pregnancy or abortion. Then they find jeebus who forgives them and they become hell bent on keeping their kids away from sex. Sp disrespectful of their children. Just because parents felt they made poor chpices doesnt mean they get to control their kids.
ReplyDeletewhat he is suggesting is both kidnapping and unlawful imprisonment once they reach 21. depending on the state he is living in, it can also be child neglect if they don't pass required exams.
ReplyDeleteOf course what you don't hear(or he is too stupid to realize) is that the taxpayers will be supporting his daughters and grandkids on the 50/50 chance they get divorced or their souse is unemployed.
we women have so much to offer our families and our country. that will not happen if we are treated as less valuable and not allowed to contribute. that is changing and i don't see us going back to being subservient.
ReplyDeleteReminds me of the Duggars. And another fundie family the Maxwells-http://blog.titus2.com/
ReplyDeleteThe Duggars don't support themselves either.
DeleteFirst they declare themselves a church so they don't have to pay taxes. Then they apply for all sorts of government subsidence. Then they get themselves a reality show. And all along they are soliciting donations on their website.
Sponging off the gullible public, grifting just like Palin. Only it's religious grifting instead of political grifting. Same dance, different tune.
And the Duggar's eldest son, Josh, just got an executive director position with the fundie hate group Family Research Council. Josh is uneducated, lazy, and has no valid experience and skills yet somehow got a high-profile gig that pays around six figures. I hate the FRC but I feel bad for the young folks who work there and actually paid some dues, have a college degree and a skill set who are probably doing all the grunt work while Josh gets all the glory.
Deletehttp://www.frcaction.org/josh
Josh Duggar is a male Bristol Palin.
I can't wait to see his interviews in about 10 years Someone is in for a rude awakening. LOL
ReplyDeleteWow, so nice to see my fundie snark interests intersecting with my love of this blog. This is Steven Anderson, AKA the Pissing Preacher. His wife is a nut, too, with a crazy ass blog called Are They All Yours?!?
ReplyDeleteHa, ha. This twit is assuming his sons are going to marry virginal women that have no ability or desire to support themselves economically. That's a shrinking demographic. He is assuming his sons' marriage partners are going to be stupid enough to take on both a husband with insanely limited world view AND a horrifyingly ignorant, controlling father-in-law.
ReplyDeleteThis twit must think his penis is just the best chick magnet in history. Good luck with that, buddy.
Here is his bitch wife's blog. She's a charmer.
ReplyDeletehttp://stevenandersonfamily.blogspot.com/
Yeah. She's all about corporal punishment. Likes how it's allowed in Arizona schools but brags that she'll be homeschooling all of her children straight on through high school.
DeleteWith the bible and Christian home school textbooks and curriculum.
So we've got future government tit-suckers in the works as none of them will be fit to support themselves. Unless the boys all become preachers and get churches of their own. Likely when they see how their Dad is supported by the sheep he grifts.
The girls will be married off to some poor sucker with absolutely no job skills except to cook and get pregnant. So you're looking at SNAP and social security to support them when their husbands run off.
What he doesn't realize is that this behavior is going to force his daughter to run fast and sleep with the first available guy. Will he then kill her for dishonoring his family?
ReplyDeleteWhat is he going to do when a daughter doesn't marry? Support her for the rest of her life? Or is he going to force her to marry some old fart he chooses for her?
You know what this guy sounds like? You guessed it. SHARIA LAW!