Thursday, October 10, 2013

After their year long plans to shutdown the government have been made public, the Koch brothers attempt to deny culpability. Too late!

Courtesy of the Atlantic: 

The Kochs appear to be distancing themselves from the movement they've helped to create. In a letter released Wednesday, Koch Industries' chief lobbyist, Philip Ellender, says the company does not favor the House's push to defund Obamacare as a condition of keeping the government open. Koch Industries would prefer to see Congress focus on fiscal issues: "We believe that Congress should, at a minimum, keep to sequester-level spending guidelines, and develop a plan for more significant and widespread spending reductions in the future," Ellender writes. 

Ellender's letter came in response to Democrats' attempts to pin the shutdown on the Kochs. Speaking on the Senate floor on Tuesday, Majority Leader Harry Reid said: "Very rich people in America who don’t believe in government have used Obamacare as a conduit to shut down the government .... This has been led by, according to the news article, a former attorney general of the United States, Ed Meese, and the Koch brothers, who have been raising and spending hundreds of millions of dollars to get us where we are right now," Reid said. He added, "By shutting down the government—and that is what has happened—we are satisfying the Koch brothers and Ed Meese, but millions of people in America are suffering." Reid cited a front-page New York Times article on Sunday that traced the government shutdown's origins in a network of right-wing pressure groups opposed to Obamacare, many of them funded by Charles and David Koch. 

But Ellender, in his letter, accuses Reid of distorting Koch's stance. "Koch believes that Obamacare will increase deficits, lead to an overall lowering of the standard of health care in America, and raise taxes," he writes. "However, Koch has not taken a position on the legislative tactic of tying the continuing resolution to defunding Obamacrare nor have we lobbied on legislative provisions defunding Obamacare." 

In addition to keeping spending at sequester levels, Ellender adds, "We also believe that Congress should work to rein-in rampant government spending so that it becomes no longer necessary to continually raise the debt ceiling." 

Even as the Kochs attempt to disavow the defund movement, their money has supported it. The brothers have given half a million dollars to Heritage Action, which toured the country rallying support for defunding Obamacare over the summer, Politico reported Wednesday. Heritage Action continues to insist the way to end the shutdown must be defund or nothing: Talk of a fiscal deal constitutes "losing focus," according to a Heritage Action blog post on Tuesday, and "the House should use its leverage to battle President Obama's failed health care law." The Koch-funded group Americans for Prosperity officially supports repealing Obamacare, not defunding it, but state chapters in New Jersey, New Mexico, Ohio, and Virginia have voiced support for defunding. 

Just like Victor Frankenstein, there comes a time in every madman'[s life when they realize that the creature they have created must die.

The question is, will it die quickly, or will take on a life of its own and ultimately leave a path of destruction in its wake?

Actually to be fair the destruction is already taking place:

During the impeachment of Bill Clinton, Republicans were pretty unpopular. After eight years of George W. Bush, same. But never in the history of Gallup polling has the party been more unpopular than it is right now.

Good job Koch brothers.  No really, good job!


  1. Anonymous10:14 AM


  2. Anonymous10:17 AM

    Obama calls Boehner's bluff; Boehner falls apart

    ...This was a classic Obama rope-a-dope. Boehner goes around making a fool of himself asking for a "conversation," the President invites his whole caucus to the White House so they can be schooled on what defaulting the United States will really mean, and Boehner does a complete 180 and runs out of the room. "Let's talk." "Okay." "Wait, I didn't mean that!"

    The president invited 232 Republicans to talk. 18 are going to show up. That means that 214 members of the Republican conference in the House are either too afraid to talk to the president or being blocked by their leadership from doing exactly what they have been going all over the media saying they want to do, or some combination of both.

    What Boehner and Republicans mean when they go around hashtagging "#letstalk" is not that they want to actually talk. They don't want to talk. They don't want to talk if that talk is going to involve an explanation of the consequences of what they are doing. They want to extort the president into dismantling the American social safety net, of which the Affordable Care Act is now an integral part. They want to win at the point of a gun what they could not win at the ballot box.

    1. Anonymous11:19 AM

      The entire GOP is a disgrace. And now that their behind-the-scenes pay masters have been exposed and are themselves scared, they simply have no idea what to do. My God! People actually voted for these imbeciles.

  3. Anonymous10:39 AM

    And THIS from a very conservative writer!

    Suicide of the Right

    ...If ObamaCare had been as unpopular as conservatives believed, their plan for the shutdown — that there would be a public uprising to force Democratic senators in close races in 2014 to defund it — would’ve worked. It didn’t. Not a single senator budged.

    Their tactic failed, and now what they are left with is House Speaker John Boehner basically begging the president of the United States to negotiate with him.

    One thing we know for sure is that it’s not an equal fight, this fight between a man who received 65 million votes nationwide and a man who received 246,000 votes in one congressional district in Ohio.

    Meanwhile, Boehner is basically the face of the US Congress in the eyes of the public. John Boehner is also the effective head of the Republican Party. And the US Congress is viewed favorably by . . . 11 percent of Americans.

    Eleven percent.

    When I interact with these conservatives, they say they don’t care about the GOP; what they care about are conservative ideas.

    They’re right not to assign special glory or power to a political organization and to hold ideas above party. But here’s the conundrum: There is only one electoral vehicle for conservative ideas in the United States — the Republican Party.

  4. Anonymous10:58 AM

    Boehner's new demand is for President Obama to resign and then have President Palin sworn into office.

  5. Anonymous11:07 AM

    10:58 AM Boehner couldn't be that stupid. If you are not joking, you ARE that stupid.

    1. Anonymous1:39 PM

      I think that 10:58 am's comment is a joke.

  6. Anonymous11:16 AM

    They're just upset that they've been outed. I never write to my Congressman (ugh!) without reminding him that his duty is to the Constitution and not to the Koch brothers.

  7. Anonymous11:43 AM

    head to read all the cray cray from the tens of skank's c4p followers and the rest of us who are sane! hysterical!
    and kristy made an appearance:

    Kristy Patullo • 18 hours ago −
    Wow, very exciting news! Steve Lonegan is very blessed to have Gov. Palin and Mark Levin show such strong support for him. The rock stars of conservatism. BOOM!

  8. Anonymous11:53 AM

    Did you guys see this? A petition to thank Sarah Palin for helping Corey Booker's race - hahahahahhaha. FAILIN'!

  9. Anonymous12:16 PM

    I try not to wish harm on people but these two cocksuckers can rot in hell. Power and control is all they want and fuck everyone else. If there's a hell and I happen to go there, I'm going to kick the shit out of them for an eternity. Selfish bastards!!! All the good they could be doing for the world and humanity and this is the best that they can do with all of their wealth. Hell is too nice for these two.



  10. Anonymous1:25 PM

    It is common when a politician or political group jumps the shark for the dirty money to dry up, sometimes almost overnight. Cut and run style. There is no way the kochsuckers are done trying to steal our country so the real question is if they dump the baggers where will their money go instead? Maybe they will try to do a better job of hiding the cray cray next time.

  11. Anonymous2:25 PM

    If Charles or David would like to influence government policy, then the one or the other should run for office. Hiding behind their billions of dollars and dictating to members of Congress should not be allowed. Just imagine if a liberal tried to do this! The GOP reaction, to say nothing of the media reaction, would be absolutely explosive but we're supposed to sit back and follow the dictates of these two cowards who won't come out and "fight fair." Frankly I don't give a damn what either of them thinks. And I don't care what Grover Norquist thinks. The majority of the American people spoke in November 2008 and 2012 and we elected and re-elected President Barack Obama. What he thinks is what should matter to the country.

  12. Anita Winecooler7:38 PM

    Boehner's their pinata'!! And even with Citizens United, these two assclowns would have got a better return wiping their butts with all that money and flushing it down the drain.

    They don't look too bright either, the fake choppers are way too noticeable. Penny wise and pound foolish!


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