Courtesy of The Independent:
The British public has such “poor religious literacy” that a modern audience would be baffled by the Monty Python film The Life of Brian – because it would not understand the Biblical references, a senior BBC figure has claimed.
Aaqil Ahmed, the BBC’s head of religion and ethics, told The Independent that failings in religious education over two generations were undermining public understanding of contemporary national and international issues. “You had generations that missed out. We have poor religious literacy in this country and we have to do something about it,” he said.
He was speaking at the launch of an ambitious three-part BBC2 series which will address the subject of pilgrimage from a broad perspective and is intended to attract the interest of Atheists as much as religious believers.
“If you tried to make The Life of Brian today it would fall flat on its face because the vast majority of the audience would not get most of the jokes. They don’t have the knowledge,” Ahmed said. He questioned whether modern audiences would appreciate that the “great joke about the Sermon on the Mount” in the 1979 Python film, where a woman asks “What’s so special about the cheesemakers?”, was a reference to Jesus’s words “Blessed are the peacemakers” from the Bible.
He also claimed that comedians such as Eddie Izzard, Tim Minchin and Ricky Gervais – who he said he found “really funny” – tended to tackle religion in very general terms. “They don’t take on specific aspects of religion they take on bigger things – such as the Bible. They can’t go into specific stories anymore because no one knows what the stories are.”
Okay well I am going to go on record as saying that though I lament the fact that people cannot appreciate the genius of "The Life of Brian" (Which I love) that overall it is a very good thing that people are less indoctrinated into religion these days.
I actually hope for the day, here in America, when we see the Bible and Quran relegated to the mythology section of our local libraries, and when they will be treated as interesting fables and nothing more.
I don't believe I will see that in my lifetime, but there is always hope for the next generations.
Don't forget the Torah, Gryphen! It, too, needs to go the way of the dodo.
ReplyDeleteI never thought I'd see gay marriage celebrated in my lifetime, but I did. In 40 years MUCH can change -- there is a tipping effect and aethism is the new Gay! The world doesn't have time to mess about with prejudice, intolerance & mean-spirited, brainwashing ideology... the internet has helped -- a lot -- and blogs like yours. You are my go-to site every morning, noon and night. :) I also look at Andrew Sullivan, but not much on Sunday -- he is over the top now on religion; cannot understand how such an intelligent man can be so smitten with such nonsense... beating a dead horse IMO.
ReplyDeleteMy grandmother had her children convinced that everyone in Norway walked around praying. It was an ideal life (she’d conveniently forgotten why the family left, probably extreme poverty). An uncle eventually went back and then wouldn’t talk about it to the sisters. Finally he said, “It isn’t what you think.” Seems he’d run into atheists.
ReplyDeleteThe fundamentalists (all stripes) can rant all they like, but ORGANIZED religion is weakening. The mullahs could never have invented the cell phone and everyone knows it.
Regarding The Life of Brian, most of us understand the Biggus Dickus scene.
I have a vewy gweat fwend in Wome by the name of Biggus Dickus!!!
Delete...like they'd hate "The Meaning Of Life?" :-)
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk
Literature teachers of all sorts have been lamenting that you can't use Shakespeare jokes anymore because no one gets them. As a prof, over ten years I was no longer able to use "Honeymooners" references - it's called fragmentation of culture ad is certainly not particular to religion.
ReplyDeleteI agree. Humor is influenced by culture, age, intellect etc. I just heard an interview on NPR with an Arabic comedian (I think his platform is Twitter). His biggest influence was Woody Allen and he talked about how Allen liked to make intellectual jokes, that not everyone would get. He tweets jokes to both English speaking and Arabic audiences and went on to explain how sometime his sarcasm doesn't translate well within the Arabic culture.
DeleteHey gryphen
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DeleteExactly, 5:36. The evolving culture moves on and more brilliance, of a different sort, will fill the void.
ReplyDeleteThere's a value to learning these things as historical references.They're part of our art, literature and music, even in a secular society.
ReplyDeleteBut I'd wager that even the most "Christian" U.S. Bible-thumper wouldn't get half the references, either, They talk about the Bible, but it's just too darn much work to read it.
I agree totally, Cotton Mather, and I've raised my kids that way. Whenever there's a bible reference, Shakespeare reference, or even just references to old movies or TV shows, I always explain it to them so they can understand. Youtube has been helpful with regard to old movies, TV shows, and commercials. Once they understand the references, they get the joke and we laugh together. I think it's very important to a good education for kids to learn history of all kinds.
Delete"Poor religious literacy" means "good religious literacy" to actual thinking people.
ReplyDelete"Always look on the bright side of life..."
ReplyDeleteBut life's a piece of shit, when you look at it....
DeleteSo what is he saying, we should learn the bible so we can get the joke??
ReplyDeletePope Francis describes ‘ideological Christians’ as a ‘serious illness’ within the Church
ReplyDeleteSpeaking at daily Mass last Thursday, Pope Francis warned Christians against turning their faith into a rigid ideology.
“The faith passes, so to speak, through a distiller and becomes ideology,” he said, according to Radio Vatican. “And ideology does not beckon [people]. In ideologies there is not Jesus: in his tenderness, his love, his meekness. And ideologies are rigid, always. Of every sign: rigid.
“And when a Christian becomes a disciple of the ideology, he has lost the faith: he is no longer a disciple of Jesus, he is a disciple of this attitude of thought… For this reason Jesus said to them: ‘You have taken away the key of knowledge.’ The knowledge of Jesus is transformed into an ideological and also moralistic knowledge, because these close the door with many requirements.”
“The faith becomes ideology and ideology frightens, ideology chases away the people, distances, distances the people and distances of the Church of the people,” Francis added. “But it is a serious illness, this of ideological Christians. It is an illness, but it is not new, eh?”
He said Christian ideology was the result of a lack of true prayer.
Watch video, courtesy of Rome Reports, below:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/21/pope-francis-describes-ideological-christians-as-a-serious-illness-within-the-church/
Another reason to admire the British.
ReplyDeleteHow refreshing that must be!
ReplyDeleteI LOVE Life Of Brian. It is on of my favorite movies. My favorite line is "He's the true Messiah! I should know, I've followed a few!" It applies to the thinking (and I use the term loosely) of the crazy "christian" rightwing nutjobs.
ReplyDeleteI am a fan of British comedy. Monty Python's one of my all time favorites. As for the religious illiteracy, yeah it stinks that people can't fully appreciate the brilliance and rich allegory of good comedy, but even as a non believer, I wanted my kids to learn the basics of all religions because they're citizens of the world.
ReplyDeleteThey learned something, and they can laugh along with me.