Thursday, December 12, 2013

Satanists and Hindus apply to build monuments in Oklahoma. Oklahoma not happy.

Courtesy of Raw Story:  

Oklahoma lawmakers are appalled that Satanists would try to erect a monument in their state capitol, but their decision to include a monument to the Ten Commandments of the Christian Bible’s Old Testament may have placed the state on shaky legal ground.

Before any new monument can go into production, it has to be approved by the Oklahoma Capitol Preservation Society. Duane Mass, the architect who designed the capitol building and serves on the preservation board, rejected the idea outright. 

“That’s Oklahoma’s house. It’s not the Satanic club of New York’s house,” Mass said. Lawmakers expressed similar sentiments. 

“I think it is a joke,” said Senate Pro Tem Brian Bingman (R-Sapulpa) to the Tulsa World. 

“This is a faith-based nation and a faith-based state,” grumbled Rep. Earl Sears (R-Bartlesville) to the World, perhaps forgetting that Satanism is also a faith. “I think it is very offensive they would contemplate or even have this kind of conversation.”

Yeah how dare they demand religious tolerance from a  state demanding the tolerance to allow them to erect religious monuments in their state capitol.

The nerve!

Okay so if this is a "faith based nation" and the 1st Amendment protects the rights of those of faith, then perhaps the Hindus would have a better shot. After all they have been around for like several thousand years longer than the Jews and Christians.

Also courtesy of Raw Story: 

That’s where the Hindus come in. 

The fourth-largest faith group in the U.S. – and third-largest in the world – said it would like to join the religious displays to honor Oklahoma’s Hindus and raise awareness about their faith. 


The Hindu group said their planned statue of Lord Hanuman would be “big and weather-proof.” 

Hemant Mehta, who writes for the Friendly Atheist blog, said the Hindus’ request would likely put Oklahoma lawmakers in a legal and political bind. 

“If the Commission votes yes on the proposal, conservatives will flip out,” Mehta wrote. “If they vote no, they’re just inviting a lawsuit. This is beautiful.”

I don't know about everybody else but the Hindus had me at "big and weatherproof." 

Personally I think it would be all kinds of awesome to have a state capitol that was filled with different statues representing various religious faiths. Just think of the educational opportunities!

School field trips to the capitol would be far more instructive in that they would include explanations concerning the various religious faiths that are able to worship freely in America, and how we as a nation do not favor one over another.

Don't you think that would be awesome? Oklahoma?

54 comments:

  1. Oklahoma, always on the wrong side of history.....and damned proud of it.

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    1. Balzafiar7:47 AM

      Once again them have shot themselves in the foot. Typical.

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  2. Anonymous6:49 AM

    Think humans are smarter than animals? Think again!
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2522501/Think-humans-smarter-animals-Think-Some-creatures-SUPERIOR-brains--just-dont-understand-them.html

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    1. Boscoe10:36 AM

      I always wondered what happened to the Weekly World News! I love the story about the woman with the "40-year old fetus inside her!" ROFL

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  3. Leland6:51 AM

    I'm hoping they will disallow either or both. The federal case would go all the way because if the judge agrees with the applicants the state would appeal. And appeal. And....

    Who has the popcorn franchise?

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  4. Ailsa6:54 AM

    I don't know about everybody else but the Hindus had me at "big and weatherproof."

    Oh, me too! For some reason it makes it all the funnier.

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    1. hedgewytch8:29 AM

      That and Hanuman is a monkey God - EVOLUTION! Suck it Rethugs! LMAO!!

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    2. Anonymous9:40 AM

      Please, please, let it be an inflatable monkey!

      Wild Tortoise

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  5. Anonymous7:09 AM

    Maybe now they will see why there is separation of church and state???!!!! But then again, I doubt it!

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  6. It might come down to "Okay you can do it, BUT, it can't be bigger than the "Commandments". And these will go on the back side of the Capitol Building."

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  7. Anonymous7:18 AM

    This is going to be a hoot to watch!!! Christians are dropping in numbers and they are going to decrease further, obstructing to the end! Kinds sounds like Republicans, doesn't it?

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  8. Anonymous7:22 AM

    I hope that Oklahoma allows all faiths to display, because it would be super cool to see that monkey god on the lawn of the Courthouse or Capitol.
    I went to Palin's FB page, and to SP for Pres2016 page, and it's hilarious how many folks are wishing her Happy Holidays! Didn't they get the memo, or buy the book?!?

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    1. Anonymous10:20 AM

      Poor Sarah is too ignorant and downright stupid to understand that the phrase "Merry Christmas" is actually a phrase wishing someone a great time at a CATHOLIC MASS and that the phrase "Happy Holidays" is used to include crazy fundies like herself( not to insinuate I think Catholics are any better.

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  9. Anonymous7:26 AM

    Lord Hanuman with the face of an ape. That is sooo cool. The fundies are going to totally flip out. Bwahhhaahhahha!!!

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    1. Wait until the Druids get rolling. Good times.

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    2. Anonymous7:48 AM

      Ancient Hindus knew who has the smarts!

      "fearless" Sara! is on a roll.... Photo by Chuckie the Anchorage Adulterer
      https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152085701763588&set=a.10150723283643588.424640.24718773587&type=1
      Mike Hupp @Buddy what do you mean except when Notre Dame games are broadcast? Bwahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

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    3. Anonymous8:22 AM

      Tripp, or Trenton, can't tell which is who - looks pretty good on skates, but not 4 years old.

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    4. Anonymous8:40 AM

      Trenton. Here is Tripp, weather looks warm.
      http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2013/12/final-image-of-day.html

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    5. Anonymous12:21 PM

      I'm rootin' for a statue of Athena or Apollo to join the interfaith assembly there!
      M from MD

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    6. Anonymous12:58 PM

      Just a photo op--note the lack of trails around the front of the house. No one is living there on a regular basis. Bundled up like the people are, you can't say who is who--could just be some random neighbors...

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    7. Anonymous1:53 PM

      Dang, that is one FUGLY house.

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    8. Anonymous8:22 PM

      Darlene Underdahl7:33 AM

      "Wait until the Druids get rolling. Good times."

      What until the Rastafarians get rolling. (pun intended) Good times indeed.

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  10. Anonymous7:51 AM

    Don't tell Sarah, but the letters in Santa also spell.....SATAN! Remember, there are no coincidences.

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  11. Anonymous8:20 AM

    Lord Hanuman is awesome!

    I'm Googling to find a statue I can place on my desk.

    I fucking-A guarantee Lord Hanuman would grab the attention of every little boy who saw it and make them forget about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

    Hindu is a really cool religion.

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  12. Anonymous8:21 AM

    isn't the Satan display going to be made out of beer cans?

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    1. Anonymous9:36 AM

      That's a guy in Florida erecting a Festivus pole, a la George Costanza's father from Seinfeld.
      Heard an interview on NPR yesterday. Basically he is trying (in a sarcastic way) to emphasize the separation of church and state. He said he was willing to take his display to every state capitol if he has to, in order to make his point.

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    2. Anonymous9:57 AM

      that's right; thanks 9:36!
      it would be interesting to see how many religions would wish to display a symbol of their faith.

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  13. Pat in MA8:36 AM

    This is awesome. I'm so sick of their refusal to accept or acknowledge that there are people who believe in other faiths, and that they are no more or less legitimate as their own. I still remember being brainwashed in parochial school that our Catholic God was the "one true God." Only our exclusive club was going to get to heaven. Still working on undoing the damage done by that line of thinking to this day.

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    1. Anonymous9:11 AM

      same here

      Tom in CT

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  14. Anonymous8:37 AM

    I bet y'all would be surprised to know that one of the most beautiful Hindu shrines is located in little bitty Stafford, Texas. I'm not Hindu, but I visit as often as I can because it is so lovely. I took my little niece to visit and when we arrived she asked if we were at Disney Land. That's the highest standard for a five year old. The point of all this, Hindu folks can build some out of this world buildings, shrines, memorials. Everything is hand done and they use no nails, screws or metal. It's something to see. Google Hindu Shrine in Stafford, Texas.

    TEXASMEL

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    1. Anonymous9:05 AM

      Okay, I Googled and loved the shrine but love this more:

      "‘Mandir’ is a Sanskrit word for where the mind becomes still and the soul floats freely to seek the source of life, peace, joy, and comfort. In Hinduism, ‘Mandir’ is a place of worship, or prayer. For centuries, the Mandir has remained a center of life – a place in the community where people forget their differences and voluntarily unite to serve society."

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    2. (Sputter, sputter!) No rill Murkin would do THAT ! ! !

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    3. Anonymous9:37 AM

      OMG! It's like something out of a fairytale! It's magical and breathtaking. I'm not a believer of Hindu, but I AM an admirer of stunning architectural feats from around the world, and this one is really impressive. Thank you so much for making me aware of this beautiful site/sight.

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    4. Anonymous9:38 AM

      I wonder what would happen if Skreechy walked into a place like that??

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    5. Anonymous10:03 AM

      There is a beautiful Hindu temple near Madrid, Iowa. We met the carver who was creating the out-side adornments.
      It is hoped that any who would visit such a place treat it respectfully. We looked the Iowa temple up, and there are a few basic "rules" to follow, just as in a cathedral or synagogue.

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    6. Boscoe10:30 AM

      I'm sure the teapeople think it's a mosque.

      $a®ah™ also too.

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  15. Anonymous8:54 AM

    Checkmate!

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  16. Anonymous8:55 AM

    This is the mantra for Lord Hanuman:

    ॐ वायुपुत्र ! नमस्तुभ्यं पुष्पं सौवर्णकं प्रियम् |
    पूजयिष्यामि ते मूर्ध्नि नवरत्न – समुज्जलम् ||
    ॐ श्री संकट मोचकाय नमः !
    राम हृदय आगार मेँ, माँ सीता के साथ ! बजरंगी रक्खो जरा मेरे सिर पर हाथ !
    जय वीर हनुमान||
    वो थी संकट की घड़ी, त्रेता युग के बीच ! अब भी हम पर आ पड़ी, दृष्टि किसी की नीच !! बजरंगी आओ जरा, हमको है दरकार ! सिया राम मय जगत है, तुम हो तारनहार !!

    World of Warcraft can't touch that!

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    1. Anonymous9:53 AM

      >>This is the mantra for Lord Hanuman:

      Let me pray to the one who is swift as thought , the one who is more powerful than the wind , the one who has conquered his senses, the one who is supreme among all intelligent beings, the son of the wind-god, the commander of the army of forest creatures, Let me find refuge in Lord Rama's Messenger, the incomparable Lord Hanuman. Please accept me and my prayers at your feet.

      http://www.eaglespace.com/spirit/hanuman.php

      Hanuman, worshipped for his strength, valor, agility, is a man of great learning. He is considered to be an avatar (incarnation) of Lord Shiva. Hanuman, a great devotee of Sri Rama, is the symbol of devotion and dedication.

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  17. Anonymous9:05 AM

    Further evidence that Oklahoma is populated by some of the most breathtakingly ignorant and hypocritical people in America.

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  18. Anonymous9:19 AM

    Really ignorant Blonde Bimbo makes an utter ASS of herself on TV:

    http://theobamadiary.com/2013/12/12/megyn-kelly-santa-is-white-and-real/

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  19. Anonymous9:54 AM

    Glad to see Sarah has a new wig. Big improvement!

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  20. Anonymous10:02 AM

    yeah butt Sara gots the Plastic Jewish Family with Plastic Jesus.
    Sarah Palin "LET ALLAH SORT IT OUT"
    “So we’re bombing Syria because Syria is bombing Syria? And I’m the idiot?” - Sarah Palin * President Obama wants America involved in Syria’s civil war pitting the antagonistic Assad regime against equally antagonistic Al Qaeda affiliated rebels. But he’s not quite sure which side is doing what, what the ultimate end game is, or even whose side we should be on. Haven’t we learned? WAGs don’t work in war.
    http://twitchy.com/2013/08/30/let-allah-sort-it-out-sarah-palin-weighs-in-on-bombing-syria/
    oil
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUEUA_ml8UA
    Talking Ski-Doo with Iron Dog Racers Scott Davis and Todd Palin
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnG3YDhXAjQ
    Wild Ride.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZSVMzeR5jU

    McCain vs. Palin on Syria: U.S. vs. Allah

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  21. Anonymous10:33 AM

    So, these lawmakers pass laws then are surprised that the law applies to everyone? What part of Civics 101 did these guys miss?

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  22. Anonymous11:18 AM

    Megyn Kelly: Santa and Jesus are both white.

    http://gawker.com/megyn-kelly-both-jesus-and-santa-were-white-so-stop-c-1481842503

    Then when at the end when Bernard suggests Santa can be of different races she says, 'OK, we gotta go.'

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    1. Anonymous2:06 PM

      It's Megyn "just look at my tits and up skirt" Kelly always pretending to be a good christian when she is no more than a hoochie mama pretender.

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    2. Anonymous2:15 PM

      Megyn Kelly of Syracuse, New York

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  23. Anonymous11:39 AM

    Billy Eichner from "Funny or Die's "Billy on the Street" just premiered his new video with Amy Poehler, in which the two comedians bombard pedestrians with Christmas carols on the streets of New York.

    The reactions are priceless, especially when someone doesn't recognize Poehler at 4:45. Watch below:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/amy-poehler-and-billy-on-the-street-ambush-new-yorkers-to-sing-christmas-carols-2013-12

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  24. Anonymous2:00 PM

    I really can't see on what grounds Oklahoma can reject the satanists' request. After all, both God and Satan are indispensable characters in the same fable... er, mythology... um, belief system!

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    1. Leland3:27 PM

      You mean from a secular or a religious angle? And they don't believe they really need a reason.

      I'm just waiting for them to step on their own balls on this one.

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    2. Anonymous4:28 PM

      Yep, in fact Satan is probably even SCARIER 'cause he's REAL... unlike those fake FOREIGN deities.

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  25. Anita Winecooler6:12 PM

    Oh dear! This is just the tip of the spear. Sarah will have to edit her book to include other "Angry" faiths, any of 'em, all of 'em, which are not judeo christian in origin with their lawyers.

    The bomb of a book is already yesterday's news, good for wrapping fish, but not much else.

    All kidding aside, I think this idea is wonderful!! Can we replace the balloons on the Macy's Day Parade with educational religious iconography?

    Thank You, OklaHOma, for being the first!

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  26. Anonymous7:51 PM

    So proud of these groups for getting in there and proving why separation is part of what makes America great!

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  27. Anonymous8:59 PM

    Oklahoma has a mixture of culture and people.
    Tony Hillerman Bill Moyers S.E. Hinton Charles Bell Louis L'Amour Chet Baker Shannon Miller Jim Thorpe Shannon Lucid Cornel West Joe Redington Brad Pitt Tom Colbert Judy Woodruff Walter Cronkite Mason Williams Patti Page Woody Guthrie Dale Robertson Edward Ruscha Vera Miles Rue McClanahan Jennifer Jones Dennis Weaver James Garner Blake Edwards Lon Chaney Jr Oscar Pettiford Mickey Mantle Tom Mix Will Rogers Elizabeth Warren Sequoyah Ron Howard Blake Edwards

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