Courtesy of The Washington Post:
A Republican member of Congress says in a recently released book that a wife is to "voluntarily submit" to her husband, but that it doesn't make her inferior to him.
Rep. Steve Pearce's (R-N.M.) memoir, "Just Fly the Plane, Stupid!" was released last month. Its publication -- and his acknowledgment in the book of the controversial nature of the submission debate -- come as the Republican Party reevaluates how it talks to and about women.
In the book, Pearce recounts his rise to owning an oil-field service company and winning election to Congress. In the book, the Vietnam War veteran says that both the military chain of command and the family unit need a structure in which everyone plays his or her role.
He said that, in his family's experience, this meant that his wife, Cynthia, would submit to him and he would lead.
"The wife is to voluntarily submit, just as the husband is to lovingly lead and sacrifice," he writes, citing the Bible. "The husband’s part is to show up during the times of deep stress, take the leadership role and be accountable for the outcome, blaming no one else."
Pearce, who is Baptist, emphasizes repeatedly in the chapter that submission doesn't mean inferiority but rather that husbands and wives play different roles. He also says it doesn't mean his wife doesn't have a say in major decisions.
"The wife’s submission is not a matter of superior versus inferior; rather, it is self-imposed as a matter of obedience to the Lord and of love for her husband," he writes.
Christianity, helping husbands dominate their wives for over 2000 years.
No wonder the Republicans fight so hard against raising the minimum wage and allowing women to have control over their own bodies, that might give those second class citizens the idea that they don't need a man in their life paying their bills and telling them what to do.
Submit: accept or yield to a superior force or to the authority or will of another person. Synonyms: give in/way, yield, back down, cave in, capitulate.Apparently this intellectual giant has never heard that the doctrine of "separate but equal" was struck down," even if yielding to the authority of another person was considered equal. What rock do these idiots crawl out from under?!
ReplyDeleteThe "submit" part always makes me wonder what happens if the person who is supposed to submit objects or refuses to submit. I don't think it's pretty.
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I'm not giving my remote to any man.
ReplyDeleteHow about we share it? I think I remember learning that somewhere along the way...
DeleteUh huh. Su-u-u-re! That isn't being second class at all!
ReplyDeleteCan anyone really see SP submitting to ANYONE?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....
That's as funny as a formal decision made by the Southern Baptist Association made years ago. It didn't stand long.
This entire "submission" crap comes mostly from the letters of Paul of Tarsus.
ReplyDeleteThe man was a militant religious fanatic, who converted to Christianity from Judaism.
He carried over many of the typical legalistic and rule based traditions of being Pharisee into his religious Christian practice.
Paul insisted that women must cover their heads, submit to men, and should not be religious teachers.
Some 300-400 years after his death, the early Christians decided he was "inspired", and enshrined his misogynists rants into part of the bible, and thus gave his private opinions the weight of being direct commandments of god.
Since that time humanity has suffered under the militant "rules" he laid down, and countless women and girls have been abused and have suffered because of this one fanatic misogynist
No mater how he phrases it, subservient means subservient. It does not mean 'equal.' This is how they whitewash their feelings about minorities too. "Well, of course we're equal. If those people would just work harder, why they could have everything we white guys have." Which is why they admire our black President so much. Sure they do, when they stop to put down the guns and the nooses they have under their white robes. You aren't fooling anyone but your wife sir.
ReplyDeleteOn the surface, the statement sounds as though he is sincere and caring until Gryphen points out the obvious:
ReplyDelete"No wonder the Republicans fight so hard against raising the minimum wage and allowing women to have control over their own bodies, that might give those second class citizens the idea that they don't need a man in their life paying their bills and telling them what to do."
It also paints a picture that their roles cannot be interchangeable and are fixed in stone. Why carry the burden all the time when you have an able bodied, thinking partner willing to contribute on the same level of love and leadership that you are?
"The wife is to voluntarily submit, just as the husband is to lovingly lead and sacrifice," he writes, citing the Bible. "The husband’s part is to show up during the times of deep stress, take the leadership role and be accountable for the outcome, blaming no one else."
Yet, somehow, many men that stray from their savior role in their relationships (which are indeed ordained by God), tend to find women that dominate them or relieve them of those responsibilities (i.e. David Vitter, etc.).
"...which are indeed ordained by God...."
DeleteUh huh. Says who? Some old fart writing in the times LONG before even the DARK AGES?
I don't care if YOU believe that. Just don't try to convince the rest of us, okay? And DON'T try to enshrine your beliefs in our laws!
Unequal is unequal. Period. I would feel sorry for his wife, but she probably feels he is "right".
Leland dear, I think you missed the snark that was followed up by the David Vitter reference, but I'll give you pass. Calm down, take a deep breath and recognize that in IM world, we get to be as sarcastic as we like.
DeletePearce is my rep. He caters to the oil and gas people and to the ranchers. I'd love for him to be defeated. My area is progressive, but he represents a good portion of eastern nm as well as southern nm. Eastern nm has the same type of politics as west tx. Pearce was defeated a few tears ago and I hoped we had seen the last of him, but he came back as a tea partier.
ReplyDeleteI am not for certain that the wedding vow "love, honor and obey" are still spoken.....
ReplyDeleteI am not my husband's employee.... I did not say I would obey him in our vows which we took many many years ago. Let's try to remember why we married whomever and I can tell you most likely submitting had nothing to do with it.
Modern brides often change their vows to "love, honor, and cherish".
DeleteTotally O/T
ReplyDeleteFreedomWorks has endorsed conservative Matt Bevin on Wednesday over Senator Mitch McConnell. This is just another key endorsement that Bevin has received as he attempts to take down Goliath. http://redknucklepolitics.com/freedomworks-endorses-matt-bevin/
Courtesy: Sarah Palin's facebook posts by fans
Bagger vs. Asshole
DeleteNot much of a choice. KY deserves better.
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/01/alison-lundergan-grimes-kentucky-senate-on-the-ground-102544.html The presumptive Democratic candidate may actually win election, in the end, to become the state's new U.S. senator. Good article.
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C'mon, Gryphen, you know the score. Don't play naive here.
ReplyDeleteIt says right in the official severe conservative's handbook "How To Treat Women: The Madonna and The Whore" that you ALWAYS give them a chance to submit voluntarily before you bring your iron fist of throbbing machismo down on their sorry asses and make it involuntary.
That way, it's their choice if they require a beat down to remind them god made women to serve men, even bald, middle-aged severe conservative douchebag men.
ESPECIALLY bald, middle-aged severe conservative douchebag men.
"...ESPECIALLY bald, middle-aged severe conservative douchebag men."
DeleteYou mean the men who can't get a woman any other way?
Gee. I wonder why.
Sorry Beldar, but if you insist on quoting chapter and verse, make it complete. There is a clause in the rules pertaining to bald, middle-ages severe conservative douchebag men that allows the wife to refuse to submit on the grounds that it might cause financial suffering to prostitutes through lack of business. Wives can thank the ACLU for that.
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DeleteMy mistake. Wont happen again.
"I am going to start posting this a couple times a day."
ReplyDeleteShe wasn't nearly remotely good enough before. She is painfully, demonstrably, obviously not even slightly good enough now. And she will never, ever, ever, never, ever, never be good enough in the future.
And if you look at her rapidly aging bile-ridden carcass, it doesn't take too much imagination to see that her self-inflicted damage puts a real time limit on just how long that sad future might be.
LMAO Are you sure there's no charge for this comedy act? With the Palin lemmings begging for Queen Quitter, followed by Beldar as the headliner, I feel like there should be at least a two-drink minimum just to sit in and watch.
ReplyDeleteIf the submission is "voluntary" why do women need a guy to tell them to submit?
ReplyDeleteWho needs the fucking Taliban (or to go fight them in the Middle East and elsewhere) when you have ignorant cunts like these in your own back yard? Seriously, these people are just as much a threat to "freedom and democracy" as any terrorist fundamentalist by way of the religious and sexual/gender-based oppression they so cherish.
ReplyDeleteCynthia needs to do a little "role playing" to spice up her marriage. Rent a hotel room, peel him a few grapes, give him a couple of viagra, get him naked, handcuff him to the bed, empty his wallet and leave.
ReplyDeleteI know love is blind, but in this case it's deaf, dumb, and demeaning. She's a wife, not a dog.