Tuesday, January 07, 2014

The dark side of the pro-life movement.

Courtesy of Salon: 

Marlise Munoz’s heart hasn’t beat on its own since she collapsed in November at home in Texas. A machine currently breathes for her, and her doctors have concluded that Munoz has no brain activity and no hope for recovery. Her husband and parents desperately want to honor her end-of-life directive and remove her from life support, but the state of Texas won’t allow them to do it. 

That’s because Munoz was 14-weeks pregnant when she collapsed, and Texas law requires that she remain on life support to “sustain” the pregnancy — regardless of her end-of-life directive, her family’s wishes and the viability of the fetus. 

As Andrew Grimes at RH Reality Check reports, the family has described the prolonged grief and heartache the law has caused them as “pure hell”: 

“We know she’s gone,” Munoz’s mother, Lynne Machado, told RH Reality Check. ”There’s just no brain activity. To see this body, it contradicts itself. It’s hard to really comprehend.” 

A paramedic herself, Munoz never wanted to be kept on life support, having seen the effects of brain death regularly as part of her job. According to Machado, Marlise and her husband had had many conversations about their end-of-life wishes. But those wishes have been overridden by a state law that says the 14-week-old fetus that was growing inside Munoz when she collapsed takes precedence over her advance directive.

I guess it doesn't matter what a woman's final wishes are, after all what are women in Texas except potential incubators for new life?

 And don't be fooled into believing that this is for the greater good of the fetus, because it is not:

“I understood that the intent of the law was to protect the fetus, to help it survive if it was viable,” said Machado. “But at 14 weeks, a fetus isn’t viable. We were told the fetus weighed between four and five ounces.” Doctors have as yet been unable to assess the damage that the many drugs used to revive Munoz’s heart, and her hour without oxygen, may have done to her pregnancy. 

It seems insane that if this is what the woman wanted, and her family agrees, including the father of the unborn fetus, that it is NONE of the business of anybody else.


26 comments:

  1. Anonymous4:04 AM

    Will Palin weigh in with her stupid "make government irrelevant in our lives" crap? Oh HELL NO (stupid, harpy bitch)!!!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous6:01 AM

      She must be muzzled somewhere

      Delete
  2. Anonymous4:16 AM

    The fetus will be deformed or very premature. Watch. I think the track record for fetuses being normal and viable in this situation is PRETTY BAD. So then look at all the money, time and effort keeping the deformed fetus/baby alive as well as the technically dead incubator.
    Millions of wasted money.
    Meanwhile, back in the real world, families are going bankrupt becasue they had poor health insurance before ACA.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous5:14 AM

      My sentiments exactly! How can they possibly think it will be a viable life....or should I say "live vibrantly?" SMDH.

      Delete
    2. Anonymous6:29 AM

      And many families in ReTHUGlican states are STILL going bankrupt - too "rich" at making $5400+ annually to be on medicaid because their governors like Indiana's Prick Pence, but too poor for the ACA subsidy.

      Delete
    3. Anonymous7:56 AM

      And you know, since this IS Texas, the family will be expected to pay all the astronomical hospital bills for maintaining the wife on life support for months as well as all the expenses involved in caring for a child with profound disabilities.

      "Hey, it's YOUR kid, isn't it? Don't look to Texas to help out. We just forced you and your dead wife to produce it but, now that it's born, you're on your own!!!"

      Delete
    4. Anonymous7:06 PM

      That hospital would play fuck getting one penny out of me if I was her husband.

      Delete
    5. He should have his lawyer draw up papers signing over the fetus and the "incubator" to the state, absolving himself of all fiscal responsibility since he is not allowed to make any decisions. Let the state pay.

      Then when it's over, tell the taxpayers what the bill was for this stupid piece of crap legislation and get it repealed.

      Delete
  3. Anonymous5:13 AM

    Hey Gryphen, have you reported the shady side of PETA.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous5:46 AM

      Anonymous5:13 AM

      Hey Gryphen, have you reported the shady side of PETA.
      *****
      it should be the BRAINDEAD side of the RTL A$$HOLes!
      has nothing to do with PETA retard.

      Delete
  4. Anonymous5:13 AM

    Well intentioned"...?.....that's questionable.....these are the people who insisted the world was flat........

    ReplyDelete
  5. Anonymous6:28 AM

    Where are the fuckingTeabagger/anarchists/randianlibertarassians with their "smaller government now?

    And who is paying for this?

    ReplyDelete
  6. Anonymous6:40 AM

    Gryphen, this is a beautiful set of little-seen photos of the President during all of 2013:
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/photos-and-video/2013-photos?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=email280-text1&utm_campaign=yearinreview

    Very uplifting!

    ReplyDelete
  7. Anonymous7:21 AM

    Satanists Move Forward With Plans to Display Demon Monument Next to Ten Commandments

    The day has finally come where the Dadaist religious trolls, called Satanic Temple, has unveiled artist renderings for a 7-foot tall, goat-headed deity that they plan to display at the Oklahoma state Capitol.

    If you don’t recall, the New York-based Satanic Temple questioned Oklahoma’s Religious Display legislation that was signed into law in 2009. The group moved forward to file papers to display a memorial next to the state’s display of the 10 Commandments.

    The Satanic Temple showed more signs of democracy than our current Congress and allowed the public to exhibit their input on the group’s design if it was accepted. The statue features a horned demon sitting in a pentagram-adorned throne with children next to it.

    Lucien Greaves, the Temple spokesman says it’s moving forward with plans to have its monument approved, despite the Oklahoma Capitol Preservation Commission’s decision to place a moratorium on new requests.

    According to TPM, the commission says it’s waiting until a lawsuit over the Ten Commandments has been settled.

    Of course, if the lawmakers reject the offer, that will only confirm that this religious legislation was never meant to be available to all religions, which you know…isn’t very constitutional. The devil is truly in the details with this one.

    http://aattp.org/satanists-move-forward-with-plans-to-display-demon-monument-next-to-ten-commandments/#sthash.DTwQjTiQ.dpuf

    ReplyDelete
  8. Anonymous7:42 AM

    As a Texan in desperate need of medical care, with a daughter in desperate need of medical care, I have one thing to say. SCREW YOU RIGHT TO LIFE IDIOTS!

    TEXASMEL

    ReplyDelete
  9. Anonymous8:11 AM

    If I were the family, I'd have her transferred to a state that's sensible, then pull the plug. But that probably costs a lot of bucks. This is disgusting! If she had wanted an abortion at 14 weeks, she could have had one, right? So, why can't her husband give consent for the "abortion" now????

    ReplyDelete
  10. Anonymous8:22 AM

    Biblical birth control: The surprisingly contraception-friendly Old Testament

    Think conservative objections to birth control are enshrined in the Bible? Think again

    ...The Old Testament, despite some believers’ insistence to the contrary, does not take a hard line against contraception or abortion. The Bible and the 24 other books that make up the Jewish canon make both direct references and thinly veiled allusions to women using contraception.

    These books include references to women using contraception to have, and enjoy, premarital sex, to use their sexuality as a political weapon without risking pregnancy and prove their fidelity to their husbands. More on that later. (There are far more references to contraception in rabbinical commentaries on the Bible, but I won’t get into them here since they are not considered authoritative texts by those from other religious traditions.)

    Let’s start with the hot sex! The Song of Songs is a long, sexy, romantic poem that many are surprised to find in the Bible. It is an unusual text in that it makes no mention of God or law, just a young, unmarried couple chasing, and lusting, after one another and eventually, as I and others believe, consummating their relationship. Over the centuries, religious scholars have argued that the poem is a metaphor for divine love. Still, it is pretty hard to ignore the poem’s graphic descriptions of the longings of the flesh.


    http://www.salon.com/2014/01/05/biblical_birth_control_the_surprisingly_contraception_friendly_old_testament/

    ReplyDelete
  11. Anonymous10:08 AM

    the woman went an hour without oxygen -- thus the fetus did as well. what possible reason could there be to continue such an unholy action? let the family grieve the tragic death of both mother and child and be done with it.

    ReplyDelete
  12. fromthediagonal11:38 AM

    Can anyone explain how the religious nutjobs who tell us everything is "God's Will" and who reject science education reconcile their legislative actions with this extreme reliance of scientific knowledge?
    Just because Science can, it should in no way force anyone to accept its not-so-tender "mercies"!
    This is just one more example of an idiocracy gone amok.
    This is the stuff nightmares are made of.
    This is total and utter insanity.
    Please excuse me while I retch.

    ReplyDelete
  13. Anonymous11:55 AM

    If the fetus were to survive the full 40 weeks this means it would go for 26 weeks without any interaction with the mother. No hearing her voice, feeling her touch, being soothed, nothing.

    I would be so afraid of the personality this scenario would produce...

    But that;s just me.
    -Oz

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous3:41 PM

      I know. It's like these people think that growing a fetus to maturity in a test tube is the same as a real pregnancy. I think I have the seed for my next Sci-Fi script.

      Delete
  14. Anita Winecooler5:16 PM

    The woman and her brain dead condition, and her prior wishes have nothing to do with the Right To Life of an oxygen deprived fetus that can't possibly survive on it's own outside the womb.
    It has everything to do with "keeping women in their place" and having her face a death panel that decides she has to carry the fetus util it dies, then they'll toss her to the family.
    As a woman and mother, the last thing I'd want is my right to die on my own terms ignored and my family forever tortured having to watch me whittle away to Sarah's weight and below, then have the plug pulled. I don't want that for me, my husband and my kids,
    I don't believe in hell, but if there was ever a reason for one, these bastards deserve it and more.

    ReplyDelete
  15. Anonymous9:41 AM

    I've never been more horrified by the State as I am now. To simply turn that woman into an incubator for half a year to further their end, not hers, is a grievous human rights violation. If George W. was still Governor, he wouldn't have hesitated to execute her for any crime charged against her.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Notice it is the STATE government doing this, not the FEDERAL government.

      Where else but Texas.

      But I'm sure ALEC is working at bringing this to a state near you. Georgia. The Carolinas. Indiana, Iowa. Wisconsin.

      Delete
  16. When that baby is born dead, I hope the family sues the pants off the state and everyone involved. I also hope they present the hospital bill to same. Why should they pay for this?

    Should the baby be taken by caesarean and have serious medical problems, I hope they demand all of the medical expenses, etc. be paid for by the state. Or just sign the baby over to the state. After all, Texas has pretty much already adopted this embryo and made all the decisions. They should have all the responsibility, chief among it is paying for every damned thing.

    No matter the outcome, this should be presented to the voters during the push for the vote that will rescind this law.

    Women are not incubators. What were they in Dune? Tleilaxu tanks? That's all women are in Texas.

    ReplyDelete

Don't feed the trolls!
It just goes directly to their thighs.