Thursday, January 02, 2014

The Math of the Great Flood

Courtesy of the YouTube page:  

I was surprised to find very few places where the math of Noah's flood was discussed, so I made this video to illustrate the scale of what the bible describes. Seeing it calculated out makes the myth seem a lot more fantastical and less feasible. After researching this video, it became clear to me that the people who wrote this myth originally did not understand how outlandish their claims were at the time, because they didn't know how big the planet was, or how tall the highest mountain was, or how many species there are, or what that much rain looks like. Once you do the equations, you can see that this is all made up. For the ignorant desert tribes during the time of Gilgamesh, there was no danger that anyone would call the authors out, but the people of modern times have no excuse for blindly accepting it.

The fact that the Creationist use Noah's flood to explain virtually everything about the fossil record, the geographical  landscape, and the importance of avoiding sin, is mind boggling.

As the video demonstrates the facts simply do not support the possibility of anything like a great world encompassing flood ever having taken place. But beyond that, at least to me, the story demonstrates an almost psychotic rage on the part of God that he would drown potentially billions of people, many living in cultures that had never heard of the Jewish god, simply in response to the disobedience of a comparative few.

In my opinion anybody hoping to convince people about the compassion of the Christian, Islamic, or Jewish god would want to ignore this story, and multiple others, like the plague.

25 comments:

  1. Something happened, or there wouldn’t be widespread stories of a great deluge, but covering the whole world? Some savvy farmer might have built living quarters, a stable and granary, on a type of barge or boat “just in case,” but he didn’t include elephants and polar bears. That thinking is idiotic.

    I enjoyed the video.

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    1. Leland6:58 AM

      Please define "wide spread".

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    2. lostinmn9:20 AM

      Isn't "wide spread" a yoga position in a certain couple of homes in Wasilla?

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    3. Anonymous1:37 PM

      You must remember that the "whole world" to these people, whether fictional or not, was basically limited to a few hundred square miles.

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    4. Anonymous9:13 PM

      where's T-Rex ?!?

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  2. Anonymous5:13 AM

    Pretty cool. I'd like to do that in the "approximation math" part of my physics class but the fundies at my public college would have a cow. On the other hand, I bet my daughter could teach this in her math class at a Catholic high school where good science is actually valued.

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  3. Sally in MI5:14 AM

    I began to not believe thus when I looked at what we were doing to other cultures and realized that Christian America was far worse in behaviors and 'sin' if you will, than anything going on in Noah' s time . And where was the wrath of God? Where was the return of Jesus? It seems like somewhere in those 2000 years He might have gotten fed up and wanted to start over again. But glad to see scientific proof that no flood happened.

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  4. Anonymous5:50 AM

    The Great flood could have happened, if the rain drops were the size of Bristol's tears when Levi dumped her

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    1. Leland7:00 AM

      She may be overweight, but water doesn't compress so even SHE couldn't hold that much water!

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  5. Anonymous6:46 AM

    Here's another site that goes even further in debunking the story: http://ncse.com/cej/4/1/impossible-voyage-noahs-ark

    Where did all that water go when the flood went down? How could a wooden ark support all those animals and food? Why did God first say to bring 2 of each animal but later (Genesis 7) says to bring 2 of unclean animals and 7 of clean ones? Why are (some) believers so willfully ignorant about science?

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    1. Leland6:58 AM

      Too damned many stories in Genesis!

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    2. Beldar J Conehead7:53 AM

      Hey, Blasphemer 6:46am! George Carlin explained ALL of this 40 years ago if you'd been listening!

      "IT'S A MYSTERY!!"

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  6. Here are a couple of animated videos about Noah's Ark that I absolutely love!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_BzWUuZN5w (part 1)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLr5vl-n0Bo (part 2)

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    1. Anonymous10:10 AM

      I went to cjeck. Great videos, thanks for the link. I'll add another from the collection, about slavery

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MFmC6BD1B4

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  7. Anonymous7:52 AM

    "Genesis 7 - 19 They rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered."

    28,000'? Ineresting. All that water at that great altitude and it didn't freeze? Where the heck did it fall from? Where the heck did it drain to?

    Maybe we shouldn't take this info as literal?

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    1. Anonymous9:10 PM

      28000' ?!?
      the arc must've been pressurized - wonder if the overhead bins were equipped with oxygen masks in case of sudden de-pressurization ?!?

      FUK'N DIPSHITS !! JESUS !!

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    2. Anonymous9:34 PM

      http://www.c-f-c.com/gaslink/docs/abo4.htm

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  8. lostinmn7:55 AM

    I have always maintained I will happily attend a christian church when someone effectively explains the story of Noah to me. I have lots of questions they'd need to answer, not the least of which is how in that ark these animals were fed and their waste was disposed of for forty days and nights. Living in a part of the country that experiences floods I can attest that a 40 day rain and flood would take months for the water to run off. Of course where would it have run off to if the earth was entirely covered with water. Not to mention if Noah and his family were the only humans left then are we really then descended from Noah and his incestual family or from Adam and Eve? It's the little stuff they don't bother explaining.

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  9. Leland9:14 AM

    lostinmn, I am so glad you said "...effectively explains...". To them the answer is simple: God did it all!

    And they are so stupid they can't see the idiocy in that or understand why so many of the rest of us find them ludicrous.

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  10. Anonymous9:33 AM

    I don't really care, since I've never smoked pot or used any illegal drugs, and never would. Just not my thing. I do think it's illogical to criminalize pot but not alcohol, when alcohol is vastly more destructive to society.

    I do get tired of the self-love of the pot culture -- we get it, you like to get high on a foul smelling weed, which then makes you hungry. That does not make you cute or superior in anyway.

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    1. Anonymous10:31 AM

      ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh........duuuuuuuuude.........I think you may have posted on the wrong thread?

      Anyway, long as you're here.....have you ever looked at your hands? I mean, really looked at your hands?

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  11. Anonymous10:06 AM

    http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2014/01/01/the-mystery-of-noahs-ark-solved/

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  12. Anita Winecooler5:36 PM

    Excellent Video, and exactly why it's difficult to argue facts and science with Hamm and his ilk. Add all the special diets, environments and other conditions needed by theses species of animals. Things like territoriality and stress. Then there's the problem of what to do with the tons and tons of waste produced by so many animals? Denying the evidence before our eyes with stories written and taken as fact thousands of years ago is just nuts.

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  13. Sgt. Preston of the Yukon9:23 PM

    "I can attest that a 40 day rain and flood would take months for the water to run off. Of course where would it have run off to if the earth was entirely covered with water."

    That's easy -- it all ran off the edges of the flat earth, into the underworld.

    Oh ye of little faith.

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  14. Anonymous10:30 AM

    I wish people would stop taking everything in the bible literally. The flood story shows up in many other mythologies of that area of the world, and is obviously based on an ancient memory of some flooding event that was so bad it made the ancestors think that god was angry or it was the end of the world or something.

    Close to 20 years ago a book by a couple geologists came out proposing that Noah's flood was actually a folk memory of the flooding that occurred in the Black Sea & Caspian Sea areas, when glacial melt from the previous ice age caused rivers to overflow into those seas. This idea has merit; such flooding could have displaced a lot of people and left a huge traumatic memory to be passed down to their descendants.

    Such overflow events DO happen. One about 12,000 years ago happened due to ancient Lake Missoula overflowing and a flood cascading from there, through Washington/Oregon, all the way to the Pacific, leaving lots of boulders and debris in its wake.

    "Folk memory" is a powerful thing.

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