The advice comes from the best possible source, Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar. The reason they are good role models is because despite having 19 kids, the “romance is still strong.” In fact, they are “like a newlywed couple every day,” says Jim Bob. The No. 1 secret? “Say yes to sex, even when you’re tired.” Apparently a friend once gave Michelle advice she will never forget: “In your marriage there will be times you're going to be very exhausted. Your hubby comes home after a hard day's work, you get the baby to bed, and he is going to be looking forward to that time with you. ... Anyone can fix him lunch, but only one person can meet that physical need of love that he has, and you always need to be available when he calls.” But don’t worry. This isn’t creepy or anything, because, “it's not all sexytime at the Duggars. They abstain when Michelle has her period, and also after childbirth: 80 days before sex if it's a girl, 40 days after a boy.”
Wow! What a revelation to married folks everywhere.
If you always give in to the needs and desires of your spouse, regardless of how you feel, then they will always be happy. And if you are like Mrs Duggar, a person whose identity is completely secondary to that of her husband, that means by definition that the maria will be happy.
Just so long as you don't want any autonomy of your own, or desire to be more than your husband's maid, live in cook, or sex slave.
These people have nineteen children. That is not a marriage that is a puppy mill for human beings.
This woman is not happy, she is simply too exhausted to attempt to analyze her emotions.
Perhaps I am not the best person to share my opinion, since I am twice divorced, but I could never be in a relationship with a woman who simply caved to my whims simply to keep me happy, or hid her emotions from me for fear of upsetting me.
That is how a whipped dog acts toward its abusive master, not how a wife should act toward their loving husbands.
A little odd in the time difference of the after childbirth resuming of "relations", depending on the sex of the newborn child. Do you suppose girl babies leave "original sin" cooties that take longer to wear off that he must keep his supreme manliness away from? Yuck to him,her and their way of life-which is no life for the women in that family! Thanks,bu no thanks says me!!
ReplyDeleteIt's in the Bible, in Leviticus. The blessing of having a God-given son makes the woman pure for sex twice faster, because, when God intervenes, everything becomes pure faster than usual.
DeleteIt's also a very clever ploy to make men hate their daughters from birth. And make sure they're treated as second-class citizen. So that they become submissive wives.
Women should have sumissive husbands - submissive to God, that is. If a man submits to Jesus, it will be a pleasure to his wife to submit to him as he submits to Christ.
DeleteSo.....she lives in a sex bubble....?
ReplyDeleteNo, she lives in a submission bubble. If you notice there was not one word about her enjoying sex or him worried about her pleasure.
DeleteSounds like hiring a prostitute. Neither party has feelings for the other. It's business transaction. Only Michelle doesn't even get paid. Talk about getting f@#$ed without being kissed!
DeleteSo many dreadful parts of this, as you point out,Gryhen, but one very confusing aspect: abstain for 40 days after a boy, but 80 days if it is a girl?
ReplyDeleteThere's no scientific or medical reason for this folklore. Is it some crazy religious rule? Has anyone ever heard of this before?
Medical advice is six weeks -- 42 days -- unless there were complications. The birth of a girl is not classified as a "complication."
apparently it is from Leviticus. Not aure if Levi gives a reason. But I'm sure it is girl cooties that need to go away before the sacred male penis can revisit the hallway.
DeleteIsn't it weird how the fundagelicals are all hung up on Leviticus...except the parts they don't follow, like wearing poly-blend clothing or planting backyard gardens.
Delete@7:37 Or cases of male impurity. Men are impure until night-time after having had sex, or a "semen loss", and they're impure for a longer length of time if anything else leaks from their privates.
DeleteWhile impure, stay away from God's places and people, anything you touch must not be touched by others, anywhere you sit is impure as well, and the wares you eat in are to be destroyed if they're made from clay.
Leviticus hates anything leaking from privates, not just menses.
So if Bob has sex everyday, then Bob can't go to Church, ever, for he's impure everyday.
Sounds like punishment for having a girl to me. The odd thing is, it's the male that determines the sex of the child. How can ANY marriage survive eighty days without sex? Especially the men who's testicles turn blue and walk funny without it (snark)
DeleteShe's not stupid, though I question almost everything about her. She knows more than her stupid public official husband who doesn't even know how to endorse someone. http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/23711857/duggars-campaign-for-cuccinelli-in-woodbridge-have-tough-time-remembering-mcauliffes-name
DeleteBravo, great post.
ReplyDeleteThere are likely two reasons Michelle submits besides the general fear and brainwashing that evangelicals suffer under:
1) She is not the very brightest bulb on the tree
2) She is a dominionist, and like Santorum, Cuccinelli, Romney,
and many other so called "devout" religionists, the way you PROVE your faithfulness to all, is to have a lot of kids, even if you can't afford them.
Even if the first girls that come along are restricted, and you force them to give up their childhood to babysit, cook, change diapers, and do the real mothering.
In the cult of Quivering that Jim Bob and Michelle belong to, .
home school of course is a must, so as to prevent the kids from ever having any influences from outside.
The girls are also typically not allowed to work outside the home, date anyone except pre-approved boys that the parents decide on for them, and of all dates are chaperoned.
The girls are raised from day one to be nothing themselves but baby factories, and submit to their father's every whim, even if it's abusive, vicious, or sexual in nature.
The heart rending stories of those who have escaped this horrific cult of Quivering can be read at
http://nolongerquivering.com.
On this blog, I have related the story of a friend of mine, who married badly, and
found herself eventually with 4 kids under 6 years old, trapped in an abusive marriage.
She lived in a sweltering trailer home and was a virtual prisoner and was only living day to day to take care of her kids, and enduring the abuse and punishment of her "preacher" husband.
Finally, one summer day in 1972, my friend Susan Jones killed herself in utter despair of ever being free again.
She married a Quivering fanatic, and could see no way out.
Just a small typo in:
definition that the maria will be happy.
"Should be definition that the marriage will be happy"
Andrea Yates's husband was also a member of this cult. Her husband had them living in an abandoned school bus for a few years, where she suffered a number of miscarriages, and kept her constantly pregnant even though each pregnancy pushed her further and further into madness. He left her alone with six children under the age of 7 even though her pillow was telling her to kill them, and one day it was just too much and she succumbed to the voices.
DeleteOh wow. 7:35. I did not know that. It sheds new light on that situation for sure. Poor woman. How tragic that she was so caught and got no help, and now has to suffer the pain of having killed her kids.
DeleteI didn't know that 7:35. How horrible is fanaticism.
DeleteSorry for your loss A.J.Billings. I hope your friend's kids escaped quivering.
Andrea Yates is in a mental hospital, her husband was free to marry and have more kids, because hey, he's a man and has NEEDS. Her husband was the one who killed his kids by leaving them alone with a woman who he forced into post-partum psychosis by getting her constantly pregnant and then making her homeschool and raise the children on her own, while he went out to work and got to talk to adults and live in a non-chaos environment.
DeleteMr. Duggar could have just as much sex with Mrs. Duggar submitting on demand if they only employed an IUD, birth control pills, a diaphragm, or even, with a little effort on his part, a condom. Recipe: same amount of sex, many fewer babies.
ReplyDeleteYou don't get as much attention, a reality show, or God's nodding in approval if you limit your family's size to one that's physically, emotionally and economically sustainable.
Hmmm...so each of us should submit: to Internet experts on nothing about our own life plans? I think NOT.
DeleteI think the Duggars are the poster couple for the Republicans.
ReplyDeleteKeep your women barefoot and pregnant, stupid if possible and do everything your husband tells you to do. Marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman so cheating or secretly being gay doesn't count. I can't even fathom how a child in that family view their parents. The boys are taught that women should be like mom....so good luck with that. Girls growing up in a modern world would have to resent both, esp Mom.....permanent baby maker. He must have a huge stash of porn for those "in between" days...lol.
J, the Duggars are just another family of brainwashed thumpers who found a way to use their religious beliefs for media notoriety..
ReplyDeleteWonder where they get the numbers of 80 and 40 as to abstinence after she gives birth to a child? At least she gets some reprieve!
ReplyDeleteCannot imagine having that many children...but, I'm sure they've got it down to some kind of a science....the kids taking on a lot of responsibility, etc.
I know that religion plays a big part in their lives.
Each to their own - but, it would not be my cup of tea!
3:59; the girl-children raise all the other children, homeschool the younger children, do all the cooking and cleaning and washing up in the house. The boys? One of them has to feed the dog.
DeleteAbstention for "80 days before sex if it's a girl, 40 days after a boy." Are those specific deadlines set out in the Old Testament? These people are so weird. I feel sorry for the children.
ReplyDeleteBeaglemom
Yes it does come from the OT.
DeleteSo would he stone one of his daughters if she was raped? I think the idea of keeping mommy pregnant or recovering from delivering another money baby is to keep mommy too exhausted to do anything else. Wonder where daddy has 'his needs' met during those monthly weeks and those 40/80 days?
DeleteWhere do you get the idea for such a question?
DeleteThe punishments enumerated in the law of Moses applied only to Israelites.
If you don't approve of the Duggars' way of life, change the channel.
Hmms . I wonder if it is vibrant sex, or quick one sided attention sex and the Mrs. is counting the seconds until she can go to the bathroom and clean up? Or does she have to lay there for hours hoping to make another member of their Idiocracy?
ReplyDeleteLook at this poor woman.....she looks exhausted physically and emotionally. People like them make me really hope there is reincarnation so they have a chance to do it better next time.
She looks older than him.
DeleteMy reaction: "Who really cares?" They are opportunistic money-grubbers who pop out the kiddies for profit. NOBODY can do right by that many children. What happens is that they are raised in groups and /or the older ones raise the younger ones. Children need a lot more individual attention than that. But it's a good scam for the Duggars.
ReplyDelete4:40 Very true. I was the youngest of 7, and got little attention. These people have no time to pay attention to all those children. Incidentally, does their God approve of using all those kids to make a living from? Without so many, they would not be on TV. Strangely, Bristol Palin seems to have the exact same mantra "Never say No to sex"
DeletePeople used to put their children to work on the farms as soon as they were able.
DeleteThe Amish, Old Order Mennonites, Hutterites and some other religious groups live much like the Duggars but without modern conveniences to a great extent.
Do you find time to be an equal opportunity scoffer and busybody or do you reserve all your bile for the Duggars?
They're disgusting in that it's all about what HE needs. Her needs are irrelevant if she has needs at all. She probably doesn't as she's a woman who exists only the "help" her man and produce the children he can't have w/o her.
ReplyDeleteI think her "need" is being met. She has a sick pathological need to always be breeding.
DeleteExactly. It was all about pleasing HIM...nowhere does it say anything about taking care of HER. And what little I've seen of their fake show is the same: all about the kids and JimBob. What a sickening example of a marriage for their kids and for those idiots who watch this crap.
DeleteWonder what will happen when her uterus rebels and she needs an abortion to save her life...now that show I would watch.
Baptists in general are not opposed to induced pregnancy termination to save a life, either that of the baby (caesarean section) or that of the mother. Every reasonable effort is made to save the lives of both patients.
DeleteAfter reading that, the one question I want answered is why 80 days after a girl and only 40 after a boy? The womb/host needs more time to replenish itself after a girl?? Punishment for the womb/host so it will be more motivated to produce a boy next time?? I mean, really, wtf.
ReplyDeleteThat was my question as well. I'm sure it has something to do with us girls being inferior in some respect..maybe clearing out the chute really good in hopes she doesn't "get with another girl"..as we all know a boy is preferable...snark.
DeleteIt's something about an extra 40 days because of the life that will one day come from the girl's womb, I think.
DeleteNope. Boys are a blessing so they reduce by half the impurity coming from the delivery. It's Leviticus.
DeleteA thorough treatment of the 40/80 day interval before resuming sexual intercourse is at numbers1317.org . Like other health related matters the ideas presented are debated by people in the health care profession.
DeleteGryphen, you might want to share this with Heather, it's a beautiful speech, to be sure. Left me with tears in my eyes.
ReplyDeleteEllen Page Comes Out As Gay
Ellen Page, the star of the movie "Juno," announced that she was gay before an audience at a Human Rights Campaign event in Las Vegas, according to The Hollywood Reporter.
The 26-year-old actress told the crowd "I’m here today because I am gay," adding "and because maybe I can make a difference. To help others have an easier and more hopeful time. Regardless, for me, I feel a personal obligation and a social responsibility."
Page was speaking at the Human Rights Campaign's THRIVE conference, an event supporting LGBTQ youth. Page spoke of the pressures of a life in the spotlight, and the toll that celebrity can take on one's life.
"It’s weird because here I am, an actress, representing -- at least in some sense -- an industry that places crushing standards on all of us," the star of the upcoming movie "X-Men: Days of Future Past" said. "Not just young people, but everyone. Standards of beauty. Of a good life. Of success. Standards that, I hate to admit, have affected me."
According to The Hollywood Reporter, Page expressed displeasure with gender stereotyping, and pointed to examples of "courage all around us," including football player Michael Sam, "Orange Is the New Black" star Laverne Cox and musicians Tegan and Sara Quinn.
The Human Rights Campaign posted Page's remarks online. Watch the amazing warm reception to her coming out at minute 5:20 in the video above posted by the Human Rights Campaign.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/14/ellen-page-gay_n_4792491.html
Between being pregnant, abstaining from sex after each birth and while on her period, I doubt Mr Dugger is really getting laid all that often. If mrs. Dugger used a form of birth control and was available all the time for sex, I bet she'd say "not tonight" pretty often.
ReplyDeleteYeah depending upon what kind of a man JimBuford is , he could have been gettin' his special purpose in life done with once every nine months or so.
DeleteGood thing these xtian eedjits are private people and don't try and tell others how to live their lives.
Wonder what the JimBuford's Happy Vagina family non profit is called?
After menopause hits and she's no longer fertile and her vsgina is dried up and stretched out from having 19 kids, I wonder if she'll still say yes? Her entire identity is being pregnant. I think she's going to have a breakdown when her usefulness is over. Poor crazy woman
ReplyDeleteShe became uber-jealous when her daughter-in-law was pregnant and she wasn't.
DeleteListen to this so-called 'Christian' biggotted asshole:
ReplyDeleteTennessee pastor of Happy Valley Church of Jesus Christ rails against biracial babies
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/14/watch-tenn-pastor-of-happy-valley-church-of-jesus-christ-rails-against-biracial-babies/
And just what is the child or person supposed to do about it? Even assuming that anything should be done.
Delete"All men (human beings) are of one blood." I Bible on "race." Everyone on the planet is of "mixed blood." Every cell in every human body contains in its DNA the "software" for every human who has ever been or will be conceived. Except red blood cells, which do not contain a nucleus.
Well, howdy-doody.
ReplyDeleteToo much information for me.
10-4 roger that
DeleteSo why are they even having sex at all when she is confirmed to be pregnant? Isn't that the purpose of the act of sex?
ReplyDeleteBecause she needs to submit to her husband to fulfill HIS needs.
DeleteI'd call that spreading his semen in vain, and punish him the same way onanists are punished. That'll teach him.
DeleteYou'd call it that but the Duggars obviously don't give a s**t what your opinion is even if they were informed. Think you can live with that little education?
DeleteWhy should she have to go without just bcause she's pregnant? Did you know that some women actually enjoy sex and being pregnant? Does that boggle your mind?
Sperm are continuously produced from the beginning of adolescence through old age. They are lost whether they are emitted into a vagina or not.
That 80's hairstyle is not keeping her looking young. Nothing ages a person more than being stuck in rut.
ReplyDeleteThat's probably a make-over, reality shows, ya know. In real life she wears leapard prints, takes birth control and always has a long face.
DeleteWT -god almighty-F does the sex of the baby have to do with how long you wait before having sex after giving birth? OMG, the ignorance just burns!!! STUPID STUPID STUPID PEOPLE.
ReplyDeleteTo funda-nuts, girls are icky and extra-contaminating, making the mother super-filthy after giving birth to them.
DeleteThe 40/80 day delay in resuming sexual intercourse after giving birth is not just a decree from on high. It is grounded in health.
DeleteWhy does that twist your panties? Apparently you think birth should be celebrated with sex even before the placenta comes out? Why else would you object to a woman waiting for a while before resuming sexual activity? Disgusting.
Ever notice that all the children are named beginning with J, after the father. The mother gets no credit, nameless.
ReplyDelete"LBJ Syndrome."
DeleteJ in honor of Jesus. The married son has 3 kids all with M names, in honor of Mary. These kids are nothing but hummel figurines to their parents.
DeleteMel68
Actually the J is in honor of Jim Bob, and the M is in honor of Michelle. The mothers who give birth to all these children have no say.
DeleteGreeks, Romans and other peoples didn't name females at all. A woman was called by the feminine form of her father's or husband's name. A daughter who had sisters would have her number order added: Primera, Segunda, Tertia, etc. She might have a nick or pet name inspired by some attribute or physical feature. We'll just call you "Vagina." What a pretty name!
DeleteNot only are they not involved in a partnership of equals, which is what healthy marriage is all about. She is also being subservient to this man, and producing a bunch of kids that they probably can't give very much quality time to. But what's worse is that they are milking this sick lifestyle for profit. There is nothing in their marriage or their parental roles that's worth emulating. A man who is secure in his own manhood doesn't need a woman to accommodate him, regardless of how she might feel. He prefers a woman who is a person in her own right, and doesn't take occasional disagreements or the occasional "no" to sex as a rejection of him.
ReplyDeleteMrs. Druggar's expression in that picture truly personifies the frozen smile of capitulation.
ReplyDeleteDespite the fact that they ultimately did have 19, Matt Cale at ruthlessreviews.com did a viciously entertaining job skewering the Duggars back in '09
ReplyDeletehttp://www.ruthlessreviews.com/9488/the-duggars-18-and-counting-no-more/
Michelle will never be allowed to be her own person.
ReplyDeleteSadder yet; apparently she doesn't want to be.
DeleteThe Duggars aren't anything but a circus side show! They are not nurturing parents; no way do they have time to spend with all those kids. I'm so sick of seeing them in the news. He's gross and she's a dimwit.
ReplyDeleteThe daughters raise the children, not mom.
DeleteI often say about the families of the students in my city school: the adults are reproducing, not parenting.
DeleteIn the case of far too many of my students, it is simple neglect. In the case of the Duggars, it is a combination of religious radicalism and overwhelming numbers of children to care for. The older children are doing all the parenting, NOT the two adults.
I have never seen their show and never will, but I wonder about one thing. Did they both come from families who follow the same lifestyle or did they adopt this kind of breeding-for-profit themselves?
Neither Michelle or Jim Bob's parent were quiverfull. Michelle was tramatized by the movie The Night of the Comet and was saved by Jesus. ( I am not making this up, I read an interview with her.)
DeleteMel68
If I remember correctly, sex is for procreation purposes only. Nowhere do I recall any mention of either party being tired or in the midst of their period or on a 40/80 day respite from their true destiny, which is to ensure a future generation. Mrs Duggar needs to educate herself on the true purpose for intercourse. A happy marriage has zero to do with your duty to reproduce.
ReplyDeleteRemember from where? Certainly not the Bible. Hare Krsna-ism, maybe?
DeleteThere are other purposes for sexual intercourse: husband-wife bonding, deterrence of immorality, to name a couple. Beats watching porn on TV!
If you don't think the primary purpose of sexual intercourse is procreation, perhaps you flunked Biology 101? Twice?
All I'll say about this breeding female is that has a cattle owner that knows quite a bit about breeding, I would never breed any of my cows over 20 times.
ReplyDeleteThis flake will either die in another pregnancy or be eaten alive every time someone( like her DIL or daughters) get pregnant.
Her whole identity is that of a breeder and nothing more.
If I recall correctly, they almost lost one of their children (the last one, I believe?) due to severe health issues.
DeleteI was horrified when I heard Michelle state that, even after that experience and the increased probability of more problems in the future, she would STILL have more children. The older she gets, the higher the odds of complications in the pregnancy and disabilities in the children.
Well back when things here still hot, Sarah and Todd were rabbits. That seemed to change about 10 years ago.
ReplyDeleteidk. I know couples who need sex daily, both of them. Then I know couples who are happy with sex once a week, some a little less than that even.
ReplyDeleteIt depends on MANY things.
Correct, dear. UDK. The point being made is that the woman is not given a lot of choice in this arena. That many pregnancies is a risk to her health. If she is co-operating under duress, shame on her husband/religious leaders.
DeleteWild Tortoise
Life is a risk to one's health.
DeleteI'm going to let you in on something. Only 19 times in the Duggars' marriage did sex result in procreation. All the rest were entertainment only. They may have sex 19 times in a month. Or week.
If she never menstruates, they don't have to skip sex 14 days a month. Some kids jack off that many times a day.
In all of these comments no one mentioned on how having all these kids, and their kids will have on the exploding over population of the world. When I first heard about this family, the first thing I thought of was how their ignorant and selfish reason for having all of these kids would add to our world population. Just think, if all 19 children of their children had the average number of children, 2.4 children each, that would give them 46 grandchildren, and then 110 grandchildren.
ReplyDeleteHaving lots of kids is their retirement plan. If all the kids chip in a few bucks, they can pay their parents' bills.
DeleteThat's enough children for eight average families! Could these freaks be more self-absorbed?
DeleteThey have so many children because they believe they are raising soldiers for Christ. It's part of a plan to enforce a theocracy by creating legions of religious right voters. Seriously.
DeleteHave you researched much American ancestry? Our ancestors bred like flies. Go back 1800's and many fleeing Europe came to America and bred like rats.....Mormons, quakers, etc.
DeleteMany had kids to work their farms. Most intelligent NE folks, had 1 or 2. Nothing has changed except that TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR THEIR KIDS. we cannot allow this anylonger.
Delete10:40am, perhaps you prefer being overrun by Muslims to Baptists? Start saving up for your burkha. And preparing yourself with spice baths to be a pleasing concubine for your mullah or whoever. No more orgasms, either, at least not clitoral ones, for yours will be goodbye, gone, gone, gone!
Delete2:57, Heil, mein Führer! Mandat ein Procreazion-lizenz! Heil! (klikenzehielz!)
This couple helps explain why so many people are opposed to Planned Parenthood and birth control. Women become liberated.
ReplyDeleteHer identity isn't secondary, she has no identity: her only job is whelping every year like a street bitch. It's clear that her husband doesn't want her for her mind or her personality.
ReplyDeleteFrankly this couple is boring. I have not read up much on them at all. Just read headlines over the years. I don't give a rats ass if they want to bred like rats but only and only if they pay the entire tab. If people like this collect ANY federal or state aid? It is a crime to force reasonable taxpayers to pay for their personal choice. Do they collect?
ReplyDeleteBoth of these people need professional help and perhaps donate their brains to science. I mean no disrespect, but there's much more to marriage then having a ton of kids. It's unfair to the children, especially the older ones who actually do the bulk of the work of raising the younger ones, and the Parents come off like two sex crazed lunatics. I'm sure the attention and the percs they get from allowing cameras chronicle their lives plays a big part in the reason for the show. They probably have a huge house, mortgage paid for, donations from their sponsors etc. etc. etc.
ReplyDeleteSome day, Mrs Duggar's going to have a life changing experience, and keeping herself valued for only her child rearing capabilities isn't going to help her. Neither will Jim Bob. This is just lunacy. Can Mrs Duggar support herself and her kids without Jim Bob?
Your post is spot on, but I think you ARE qualified to speak on the subject as a twice divorced man. Moreso than many married folk who "stay together for the kids" and other bullshit. You've always put your child first from what I can tell, and that tells me all I need to know about your character.
I have a strict policy of never taking advice from people with mullets. Unless it is regarding maintenance of a Mustang.
ReplyDeleteI'm Christian, and I don't agree with this at all. I am not a submissive wife. At all. Yeah I cook and clean. But so does my husband. I don't make him, I just married a gentleman, and I really did marry my best friend, we were best friends in middle school and 9-10th grade and then we dated for 4 years. But anyway, if I'm too tired for sex I say no, and vice versa. If we're both too tired to cook we go out. I'm not going to cook every meal for him. And he's not going to cook every meal for me. We've only been married for a year, so maybe that's part of it, but marriage is about being partners. You're supposed to help each other. Before I started watching the show, I didn't know anything about Jim Bob, and I thought Michelle was an idiot. I was wrong. Jim Bob is a creepy sex addict and Michelle is a whipped dog in a woman's body. I feel bad for her and the girls. But one thing that really pissed me off, was the abstaining from sex 80 days after a girl and 40 after a boy? WTF is that about? One last thing. Jessa, Jill, Jinger and Jana are fairly slim, especially Jill and Jessa. But Joy Anna is pretty curvy, and in my opinion the prettiest because she doesn't cake makeup on her face like Jessa and Jana do. But anyway, with those (beautiful) curves she needs to get her own clothes, not wear hand-me-downs from her size 2 sisters. I'm a size 2, so no hate on either side, curvy or skinny. All I'm saying is this girl needs some clothes that fit. Anybody agree with me on this rant?
ReplyDeleteYou really don't understand that 19 singlings only requires 19 inseminations at the least? Another Biology 101 flunk or skipper.
DeleteIf a couple carefully uses "reverse" NFP, as Knaus and Ogino intended, that can be a real possibility! Hare Krsnas teach that sex is for procreating only and that sex on other than the woman's fertile day makes for bad karma or something.