Friday, April 18, 2014

New film, "God is not dead," attacks higher education, secularism, and logic, all in equal portions.

Yes that was the guy from Duck Dynasty that you just saw in that trailer. And that dude who played Hercules too.

I have been tempted to write something about this film a couple of times now. But to be honest I found the damn thing so irritating that I did not want to get my self all worked up over something so ridiculous.

However that was before I stumbled across this entry about the film on Wikipedia:

Josh Wheaton (Shane Harper), a devout Christian and freshman college student, enrolls in a philosophy class taught by a dogmatic and argumentative atheist. Professor Radisson (Kevin Sorbo) demands that all of his students must sign a declaration that "God is dead" in order to get a passing grade. Faced with a choice between passing the class and betraying his beliefs, Josh refuses. As Josh is the only student in the class to do so, the professor strikes a bargain: Josh must defend his position that "God's not dead" in a series of debates with him, with the class members ultimately deciding who wins. If Josh loses, he flunks. When Josh accepts the challenge, he gets more than he bargained for — jeopardizing his faith, his academic future, and even his relationships. 

There are several struggles and personal beliefs going on as well in the film. Ayisha (Hadeel Sittu) must hide her Christianity from her devout Muslim family and father. Mina (Cory Oliver) must deal with her mother who is suffering from dementia, her rich executive brother Mark (Dean Cain) who refuses to see their mother, and her personal relationship with Radisson (which proves a struggle as Mina is a devout Christian and Radisson is an atheist, and Mina is frequently belittled in front of Radisson's colleagues). Amy (Trisha LaFache), a businesswoman and animal right's activist, is diagnosed with cancer and Mark (her boyfriend, Mina's brother) breaks up with her, seeming to care more about his business life than he did about Amy. Martin (Paul Kwo) is a foreign exchange student from China, whose struggles are similar to Josh's: his father does not want him screwing up his brother's scholarship (as Josh's girlfriend, Kara, did not want him standing up to Radisson as it might affect her scholarship). 

Radisson has Josh spend 20 minutes at the end of every lecture to give his arguments on why God exists, but Radisson constantly has a counter argument against all of Josh's debates. Ultimately, it comes down to a debate between Radisson and Josh, who both make compelling points from both sides. Josh questions Radisson, asking why he hates God. After Radisson gives his response, confirming he hates God for his mother's death that left him alone despite his prayers, Josh asks Radisson how he can hate someone that doesn't exist. In the end, every member of Josh's class, including Martin, stand up and say "God's Not Dead", causing Radisson to leave the room in defeat. 

After the last lecture, Martin excitedly tells Josh that his lectures have changed his heart and he has become a Christian. Josh invites him to come to the Newsboys concert with him because he had an extra ticket (due to Kara breaking up with him). Radisson ultimately has a change of heart upon reading a letter from his late mother, and leaves to find his ex-girlfriend Mina, who is shown to be attending the same Newsboys concert. He is struck by a car while crossing the street and his ribs are crushed, leaving him slowly dying of internal hemorrhaging. Pastor Dave (David A.R. White) finds him, and helps save Radisson, who becomes a born-again Christian moments before his death. Mark is shown taunting his mother, stating that he as a non-believer has a great life while she, a faithful person, is riddled with a disease. A suddenly lucid Mom makes a point about how the devil helps some evil people to succeed so that they won't turn to God, but that the person's life is like that of a prisoner whose barred door will ultimately slam at life's end. The cancer-ridden Amy is shown confronting the Newsboys in their dressing room moments before their show, presumably to ambush their faith, but ultimately revealing that she wants to know God. In the closing moments, the Newsboys show a video of Willie Robertson congratulating the "young man" who took up the argument against his professor that God was alive. The Newsboys close the movie with their song "God's Not Dead", dedicating it unknown to themselves, to Josh, saying they support and commend him for taking up the gauntlet against Radisson.

Holy crap is that a bunch of hooey.

First off I am sure that those of us who attended college know full well that professors do not make statements like that in their classrooms.

I took philosophy in college, and a class on comparative religious studies, and I cannot even tell you for sure if either of those instructors were, or were not, atheists. In fact I don't think I ever knew, or cared, WHAT religion my instructors identified with.

However THIS is how these fundamentalist types view higher education in this country. As an aggressive assault against their faith. 

And I cannot tell you how ironic I find it that Kevin Sorbo is playing this educator.

As you may or may not know, he played one of the worst versions of Hercules every imagined. Hercules of course was mythological person who was said to be half god, and half man.

Sound familiar?

It is actually not surprising that the plot for this movie is so hyperbolic and over the top, since it appears that it is at least partially based on one of the most laugh out loud funny Chick Tract ever produced.

Perhaps you've seen it.

If you click the link at the top you will see that the movie mimics the comic almost frame by frame.

Look I understand that when your belief system relies on keeping people as uneducated as possible, that your fear of college must be almost overwhelming. But this kind of transparent propaganda cannot really be helping.

After all if what you believe has real value, wouldn't people be flocking to your church, and not have to be tricked and lied to in order to be convinced to show up?

56 comments:

  1. Anonymous6:14 AM

    It's just so stupid.

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    1. Anonymous5:51 PM

      Simplistic minds are easy to manipulate. Just as strawmen are so easy to topple.

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  2. Maple6:15 AM

    The problem is, as I see it, that most "believers" are unwilling to do a deconstruct of their faith. Up until the age of 6, I believed in Santa Claus, because my parents and older siblings told me that Santa existed. It took some older classmates to give me the straight goods on Santa, and my mother confessed that Santa was make-believe.
    I also believed in God and in Jesus because my family told me to. We all went to church every Sunday, as did our extended family and our friends (if not our church, then to other ones in the community). At about age 14, I started asking questions about Christianity and why our beliefs were the right ones and other religious beliefs were wrong. No satisfactory answer there. So I started studying the other religions and how they came into being. And that's when I abandoned the faith that my family had given me.
    Now, I have enormous difficulty understanding why any otherwise intelligent person claims a belief in an imaginary omnipotent "being". It's time for them to deconstruct their faith.....

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    1. Pastor Beldar j Conehead, DDiv, FSM, ret.8:18 AM

      I think I can pinpoint exactly where your 'problems' began: "I started asking questions...". As you discovered, religion and thinking do not mix well.

      Remember, the Bible commands us NOT to think.

      It is written in Aphasians 21:12
      "And Geddy cried out. "Woe be unto thee who thinks. Woe!""

      And in Cellophanes 17:76
      Think not, pondered David, son of Harley and father of Davidson, thee who thinks, for it angers the almighty, I think.

      and again in Linoleums 3:1459
      "Ponder this, oh pious believers! No man is an island, but we will all be peninsulas in Heaven."

      (Congratulations, Maple, on your freedom from religion. Bless you.)

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    2. Anonymous3:44 PM

      all ignorant idiot responses, by willfully ignorant people

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  3. Anonymous6:20 AM

    I saw "God is not dead" on a church sign just yesterday. I thought that was,a strange message for Easter week, but I'm betting it's all about this movie.

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  4. Leland6:23 AM

    Extremism and fanaticism are very dangerous positions. And it is often impossible to break their hold on people. They are usually so certain they are right that NO argument will ever make its way through their thickened skulls and into their tiny brains.

    It hurts them too much to actually THINK! (An example? Hamm.)

    Fanaticism for ANY reason is dangerous.

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  5. Anonymous6:32 AM

    Sorry, god IS dead. Matter of fact, he never existed

    - Nietzsche

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    1. Leland7:42 AM

      Actually, the correct quote is:

      "God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Yet his shadow still looms. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?"

      (From "The Parable of the Madman".)

      It's always been a bit of a bone of contention with me that so many people so greatly misunderstood what he said. To the extent that demonstrators actually picketed his funeral with signs that said "Nietzsche is Dead!" signed, God.

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    2. Anonymous5:58 PM

      This is not a philosophical or existential debate.

      God is not dead. Zeus is not dead, either. Because superstition and mythology are alive, and because RELIGION is such a profitable business.

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    3. Leland11:44 PM

      @5:58

      Sorry, but one doesn't NEED a real god to have a religion. It's a sucker's game played by those who enjoy manipulating the ignorant masses and exercising the power it brings them.

      But you're right. God isn't dead because he/she was never alive except in men's minds.

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  6. Boscoe6:33 AM

    I LOL'd when you revealed this was based on a Chick tract, because I was just thinking exactly that! Chick tracts are AWESOME! I have a couple hundred of them. Very entertaining stuff, especially the ones about other religions and how they are all tricking you into worshipping Satan.

    The thing that really stands out as interesting to me from your post is the part where, in order to give Josh a "game winning blow" against Radisson, they actually have to make Radisson fall into a cheap verbal trap and then the "blow" itself is actually a standard ATHEIST argument!

    Unless you are insane, you can't hate something you don't believe exists.

    To me it says volumes that this was their ultimate ironic punchline as an argument for God.

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  7. Anonymous6:37 AM


    Creationist insists dinosaurs were on Noah’s Ark: They took the younger ones

    ...The self-described “creation scientist” said he had debunked the notion that two of every animal could not have possibly fit on Noah’s Ark. The Bible states that the boat was about 450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 50 feet high, Kerby explained.

    “I see some people that like to mock and ridicule, especially about the dinosaurs, how did they put the big old dinosaurs on there?” he said. “Well, I would suggest to you they didn’t take the big old dinosaur — they would have taken the younger ones. You think of a guy like me, if you’re going to go repopulate a planet, you’re not taking me with you. I’m old. My repopulating days are done. You take my son or my grandson. My grandson is a whole lot smaller than I am.”

    Creationists believe that the Flood began approximately 4,359 years ago. Scientists have found that dinosaurs went extinct by the end of the Cretaceous Period about 65 million years ago.

    http://freakoutnation.com/2014/04/18/creationist-insists-dinosaurs-were-on-noahs-ark-they-took-the-younger-ones/

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    1. Anonymous7:20 AM

      I would have loved to see how Noah dealt with the velociraptors.
      M from MD

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    2. Leland7:45 AM

      Me, too, 7:20!

      Of course, the answer from idiots like Hamm would the same way that god controlled the lions and other hunters.

      Sheer idiocy.

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  8. Anonymous6:48 AM

    On Facebook this morning, I clicked on a page belonging to a relative so I could check for photos of her kids, which I always enjoy. She had posted a long, long "testimony" from a friend who is a divinity student. With each paragraph it became more apparent that he's a victim who "suffered terrible disappointments in college". He was home schooled but got an athletic scholarship to George Washington University where he was bullied and picked on because he was called a "religious fanatic" and a "sissy christian". Many comments about the "disgusting immorality" of drunken, or gay, or sexually immoral classmates. Three bloggers repeatedly smeared and bullied him on student blogs. He "later found out they were anti-christian Jews". At his next two or three schools, he was followed by the same bloggers from school to school which ruined his reputation resulting in him not being accepted and eventually cut from the teams...on and on and on. He finally graduated from an Assembly of God school and triumphantly said that he had converted 2 people. He also compared himself to Tim Tebow. This is the next chapter of christians sufferers, the phony war on Christmas was chapter one. When the movie comes out, the christian whiners will be coming out of the woodwork.

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    1. Oh, the whiners will be out. Christianity never cornered the market on this behavior, though; refer to our discussion about the Jews never actually being slaves in Egypt.

      I know a Wiccan who does that exact same thing. If she doesn’t get her way (manipulate you), she blinks rapidly, swallows wrong, gets tears in her eyes, and soon is flat-out bawling. It works on her husband but no one else. I make nasty remarks. The husband dislikes me, but mainly because he can’t get me to do tasks for her when he’s away at work. She’s disabled from weight and bad diets.

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  9. Anonymous7:03 AM

    Sorbo's in the movie because they promised him a paycheck.

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  10. angela7:05 AM

    Gryphen, you were kind to call this hooey. Sounds more like gloppy bullshit.

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  11. Anonymous7:17 AM

    I guess Christians have no problem with a war on Atheists and other religions, so much for love thy neighbor

    We had a discussion in my home about Christian victimization that seems to be rapid in this country today, love the response from my two native kids, "how come it never bothers them what happened to our people. Don't they real what religion did to our communities?"

    See it is easy to be passion about your beliefs when it is in your favor. Christians not getting your way does not make you a victim, however smearing others does make them victims

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    1. Anonymous2:56 PM

      Wow I was tired when I submitted this, should have proof-read it

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  12. Beldar J Conehead, Certified Atheist Cowpoke7:29 AM

    Gryphen, did you happen to notice that they stole the entire plot from The Charlie Daniel Band's song The Devil Went Down To Georgia?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnepPZChA5U

    Now, ah ain't no country western music expert (spitting a big sloppy glob of chaw juice on my foot) but ah reckon this here song, Caballo Diablo, is ahelluva lot better'n that'n, 'scuse my french, ma'am....
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU7OFJ9v67Y

    Oh, shit.... I did it again... look at my shoe....

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  13. Anonymous7:29 AM

    I saw this movie on the recommendation of one my Pastor & Minister, about 40 of my Church members went, (I'm a firm believer that Jesus Christ is the Savior and to be with God you must go through the Son) but at the same time I respect other peoples beliefs, example: there are Atheists that are good, does good deeds, kind to their fellow man, caring, they just don't believe in God, to me that don't make them bad people, and for the record I have a serious problem with Satan worshipers. Had I known the guy from Duck Dynasty was in the movie I would have never went. I was somewhat disappointed because neither one of them made their point clear, it's not a movie I would recommend, but the intentions was good, and by the way God is not dead----Happy Resurrection Day

    Anonymous

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    1. Anonymous11:27 AM

      You're right. That which has no existence cannot die. Happy Spring!!

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  14. You could leave out all the religious references and this movie just sounds like an absolutely dreadful pile of cliched, stereotyped, simplistic, glop. Good Lord, the sap oozing from the description alone has my monitor all sticky. It makes Lifetime movies seem like Oscar contenders. Geez.

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  15. Anonymous7:38 AM

    Clearly these people have never been to a real college, or, if they claim to have been, never took a philosophy or religion course.
    This borders on "The Secret Protocols of the Elders of Zion" -- ignorant, prejudiced, narrow, and dangerous lies about anyone who has different beliefs.
    "We the People" have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness -- and we can claim those rights on our own, not dictated to by a small, sinister religious cult.
    You go to your church, I'll go to mine -- or none at all. My choice has nothing to do with you, "christianists."

    btw -- wonder what Sarah thinks of Maundy Thursday, Good Friday, Holy Saturday, and Easter. Does she know anything at all about the theology she claims is hers? Was she in church on Palm Sunday? Does she know what the Last Supper signified? Would love to hear her views -- apart from her cheery "Happy Easter," filled with jelly beans and Easter baskets. What do Lent and the Resurrection mean to you, Sarah? What is the Pentecost? Etc. Can't wait for yr FB post.
    If there is none, it means, Sarah, that you don't have a clue about the most important event in Christian belief.
    Forget your "heart of Christmas." Easter is the beginning and end of Christian belief.

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  16. Anonymous7:52 AM

    OT virginiagentleman1 • 4 hours ago
    Obama sucks rotten eggs. What else can I say about that damn fool? I'm counting the days until that disaster is out of office!

    Since we are paying for this guy's medical care (Social Security, Medicare, Veterans Benefits), we have a right to see how our money is spent. How can he go around wishing everyone a Blessed Easter and then spout that load of hatred? I'd blame the lack of oxygen to his brain, but that would be too kind.

    While we are at it, let's all wish Trig a Happy Birthday, or Happy 6th Anniversary of his official arrival. It may take a while for Sarah to wish him Happy Birthday on Facebook because we all know that when it comes to being hugged and loved, Trig goes to Facebook to read his messages.

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    1. Anonymous8:27 AM

      She'll post a birthday wish eventually, and as usual it will be accompanied by a photo taken 2 years ago.

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  17. Anonymous7:52 AM

    I still get laugh out of creationists insisting the world is 6000 years old and that the bible states it is so.

    I thought some monk pulled that number out of his ass some time ago. Claimed to have added all the "begats" (Noah begat whoever...and so on...) out of the early books and came up with 6000 years.

    Funny how one person can just lead the all-trusting religious sheeple any way he or she wants (e.g. just like Pat Robertson, Joel Olsteen and the rest of those charlatans are dong now)

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    1. Ted Powell9:01 AM

      I thought some monk pulled that number out of his ass some time ago.

      It was Archbishop James Ussher, and he pulled it out of the bible and other sources, publishing his calculations in the 1650s. This put the age of the Earth at something less than 5700 years, which was a relief, since it was believed that the Earth was only going to last for 6000.

      BTW, a tract is a literary work, and in current usage, usually religious in nature, and not at all like a "track".

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  18. Anonymous8:16 AM

    Ridiculous idea of a movie. The 'sharing' of the Gospel was never intended (according to NT) to be done in this manner. This and these movies is propaganda, misleading, distortions that systematically make it seem like christians today in the United States are VICTIMS.

    A true believer knows that scripture counters that. "God has not given us a spirit of fear", and so on and so on, plus the scriptures of how some would face persecution, real persecution. Was the persecution because they hated men who professed Christ? It may be, but in today's atmosphere in the US, christians are the most prosperous indulgent proud and self-righteous that has even been demonstrated since Christ walked on earth. Instead of being thankful and humbled, we hear a lot of smugness and complaining and victim mentality. And the complaints from the right-wingers and their pastoral ministerial endorsers has skyrocketed since an African-American President has been elected.

    As a believer, and I'm sure there are many others, we find ourselves on the outside looking in and seeing a complete hijacking of the bible.

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    1. A. J. Billings9:47 AM

      As a non-theist myself, I applaud some of your statements here, especially the wording about the self righteousness of some Christians.

      I hope that more like you will stand up to the charlatans who are working towards theocracy.

      The genius of our Constitution is even being threatened by their movement towards a Constitutional convention to
      undermine the 1st and 10th amendments.

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  19. Anonymous8:29 AM

    It appears the entire right wing is looking for pity.

    Billionaires are whining about how their systematic destruction of American democracy, is being noticed by more and more people, so they feel hated and unjustifiably demonized. Oh, boo freaking HOO.

    This movie caters to those who imagine others are actively going out of their way to make fun of their religion.

    Most people don't give a shit what you choose to believe...as long as you don't shove it into their face, demanding that they also must believe and adhere to your religion's customs.

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  20. Anonymous8:42 AM

    The film is laughably bogus. My son needed a few sociology credits, so he signed up for religion in America. He and the prof were the only atheists in the class. The students were tasked with grading the merits of each other's paper. After a few weeks, the prof sat back and let my son take over. He dominated the others and received an A+. The other students "hated" him. They didn't stand a chance. My son is a Physics honor student and undergrad TA.

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  21. Guilty as charged... and not feeling guilty at all!

    I was teaching college level Physics for non-science majors. First day of class, I am going over the syllabus. This girl and her boyfriend stand up to state that they are Christians and did not believe in cosmology, etc. They asked if they could answer the exam according to their beliefs. I replied along the lines that we were there to study Physics. I was not interested in what they believed or didn’t believe but, on the exam they would answer according to what I taught in class or what the book said. If they could not do that they would fail, and I recommended they drop the course. They left in a huff and dropped the course. I am sure they went to complain to the administration. I never heard about this from the administration or from anyone else.

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  22. A. J. Billings9:44 AM

    What a 100% idiotic and nonsensical premise!

    No Professor is going to storm out of the class and declare defeat in the real world.

    This is nothing more than pure unadulterated pandering horseshit,
    designed to counter programs like Cosmos and Nova.

    This reminds me of the idiot who was handing out anti-abortion crap in Canada the other day, who declared to the arresting officers that he had "won two court cases".

    I guess the bible dulled his brain to the point where he didn't realize he WAS NOT IN THE USA??!!

    To quote a certain Mr Marx;

    "Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people".

    Not that I agree with Karl Marx at all about the "virtues" of communism, but in that quote he has a point

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    1. Anonymous11:41 AM

      The 1% will espouse christian beliefs, while not actually being believers, to lull the 47% into a sense of religious complacency so that they are better able to accept lower standards of living and eschew higher education as not being in line with their beliefs.

      How else are the 1% going to create underpaid, overworked cadre of individuals? How else can we create an subservient group of workers that can compete with China? Also, how else will they convince people to go to war for oil and gas, while knowing that their government will not support their broken minds and bodies upon return.

      The powerful are selling a religious bill of goods to the lowest common denominator in this country and they eat it up; they eat up patriotism, religion and guns, all while playing pawn to people who don't care if they live or die. Religion is a very powerful weapon and those that deploy it do not share the beliefs of those that practice it, often to their own detriment.

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  23. Anonymous10:10 AM

    A relative asked once how we could stand to work with those liberal professors. Once we got our chins up off the floor my husband and I explained we have no clue what our colleagues political leanings are because on the few occasions we chat it's usually about the budget, the curriculum, the bureaucracy, the idiot in the office next door eating garlic…. Actually the one time one of us mentioned something political (thinking all intelligent thinkers must be of a liberal bent) it turned out the guy was a GWB fan.

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  24. Chenagrrl10:18 AM

    I am steadily becoming more put out with American politicoreligiosity and religiticality. I am a practicing Christian and proud of it, but the ugliness and hatred that is being spread as Christianity has no place in my life. What amazes me is the war on the separation of church and state. Don't these geniuses understand that the separation is truly what makes our nation unique? I think not and none of them seem to see that the very voices of religicality or politicoreligiosity are echos of the mullahs most of the profess to hate.

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    1. Separation of church and state is not unique to the U.S. Just sayin'.

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  25. I love the analogy of this dreadful movie to a Chick Bible tract.
    It took some digging, but I found this site I visited years ago for "Chick Inspiration". A parody of parody...
    http://www.weirdcrap.com/chick/archive.html

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  26. lostinmn10:36 AM

    The religion who has victimized more people than almost all other religions likes to play the victim as its means to victimize even more. I went to college, undergrad and grad and never once heard any instructor declare anything negative about God in any form.

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  27. Anonymous11:01 AM

    domestic fukin' home grown taliban - ideology no different than their Afghani brethren

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  28. Anonymous11:29 AM

    My favorite part of the trailer was Kevin Sorbo trying to say "antithesis". My least favorite part was the xtian music band; I detest christian music.

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  29. Anonymous11:33 AM

    As one of those "practicing philosophy professors" I can assure that n secular institutions, most of us bend over backwards to be neutral. Students aren't indoctrinated,they come to question their own religion through millennium old problems, like the problem of evil and Cartesian dualism.

    I consider it successful when students at the end of class (when I tell them what my beliefs are in response to that question they have been asking since semester started) are split 50/50 on whether I am a theist or atheist.

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  30. Anonymous4:02 PM

    Oh, the Far Right just love their little made-up stories inciting themselves to war against an imaginary enemy, don't they? This is just the video equivalent of all those untrue stories circulating on email for years, the stories about Xianists triumphing against Bad Libruls.

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    1. Anonymous6:11 PM

      It doesn't take much effort for intellectually lazy persons to be manipul

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    2. Anonymous6:15 PM

      ... to be manipulated by a bad script combined with a closet fantasy situation in which that ignorant person's superstitions are "proven" and "overcome evil".

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  31. Anita Winecooler5:42 PM

    "hooey"? We need a new word for "hooey" with all this propaganda. What gets me is the part of the converted Muslim (insert any other religion of your choice) because one belief is so much better than another and how being a christian helps one cope with the human condition. . If I ain't broken, don't fix me, thank you very much. .

    But at least I learned about the Chick Tracts, pretty funny stuff!

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  32. Anonymous6:49 PM

    So it's fiction/fantasy, right?

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  33. Anonymous6:51 PM

    It's the "Marine Todd" meme, in a movie!

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  34. Anonymous6:24 AM

    Sadly for those wishing to see no more of this drivel, it made a lot of money - about $43MM at last count on boxofficemojo.

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  35. Anonymous4:28 PM

    Actually, I connected with this film. I have had a professor (in college) who did make statements like this. Maybe not quite to the extent of the film, but enough to where after the first week I dropped the class. I have no problem with education and religion being separate, but if I should not have to feel like I have to hide my faith to avoid having it persecuted in front of a classroom where I intend to learn new things and possibly even adapt my beliefs.

    I am not saying that this happens in every classroom, at every university, or is a common practice at all. But your response to the movie is that it could never happen, and has never happened. Which is just as ludicrous as saying that it happens all the time.

    I am not saying the movie is perfect, I have my own problems with the movie. But realize that there are some are people out there who enjoyed the movie, and even here in this comment section are people insulting other people for believing something different than them. Kind of proves the point of the movie if you ask me. (People of the same religion can have different beliefs, and people of different religions can have similar beliefs. None of us KNOW the truth, we just choose to believe different things. No reason to hate others for that.)

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  36. Anonymous6:24 PM

    I find it interesting that only one person here is being benevolent about the movie, and it is a Christian. It is funny, as a Christian how many people judge me for being judgemental...think of the irony about that. I do not judge others, that isn't my job. And, it isn't your job either. The movie made some sound arguments for creationist. Even so, the Nietzsche quote (so overrated and misinterpreted) is taken out of context by believers and non-believers. I personally think he was talking about all the hate in the world having destroyed God and what God stands for. I think most educated people would think that way too. Also, to say that Christians are against education is also ludicrous. Or, why would the Christians be going to college? I am not saying Christians are perfect, and I don't see the movie attacking Atheist as much as it is actually defending Christianity. No one forced the class to say "God is NOT Dead." I also noticed that someone stated that Christians are being like the Terrorists. Ummm...we are not beheading people that choose not to convert. We are asking to be left alone and not be persecuted. Where are Christians "attacking" (not defending) others and taking them captive and forcing them to convert. What is funny about all of this is that Christianity is by choice. I don't have all the answers, and I am not perfect. But, I let others have their beliefs. I can talk about Christianity without forcing it on others and I can be open to letting others believe what they believe without belitting them. Hmmm....must be the bachelors and two masters degrees I have (including education) that allow me to think that way.

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