Monday, June 09, 2014

Sovereign citizen couple murder two police officers in Nevada. Possible links to white supremacy and the Bundy Ranch. Update!

Officer Alyn Beck, 41, and Officer Igor Soldo, 31.
Courtesy of NBC News:  

One of the shooters who ambushed two Las Vegas police officers and shot them to death at a pizzeria yelled “This is the start of a revolution!” before firing, witnesses told police. 

The man and woman then sprayed bullets at a nearby Walmart, gunning down a third person, before killing themselves in an apparent suicide pact, authorities said. 

The officers were eating lunch Sunday at a Cici’s Pizza when the shooters approached. Authorities said they stripped the dead officers of their weapons and ammunition before going across the street to continue the spree.

It was clear that the two shooters targeted the police officers, but why?

Here is more from the New York Daily News:  

The shooters are thought to be a married couple in their late 20s who were new to the Las Vegas Valley, according to the Las Vegas Review-Journal. Police are reportedly investigating links to the white supremacy movement, having found swastika symbols during their initial investigation. 

One of them shouted, “This is the start of a revolution,” before killing one of the officers execution style as they refilled a soda, reports the Review-Journal. 

The second officer was shot several times by the female shooter, but he returned fire, Gillespie said at a press conference. The officer later died at a local hospital while in surgery. Their bodies were escorted by a police motorcade to the coroner's office. 

The killers stripped the officers’ of their weapons and ammunition, before covering the officers with something that featured the Gadsden flag, a yellow banner with a coiled snake above the words, “Don’t tread on Me," according to the Review-Journal. 

The flag was designed by Christopher Gadsden, a Revolutionary War general and statesman, in 1775. It was adopted as the symbol of the Tea Party Movement in 2009. 

Gadsden flag

The two sovereign citizens then went into a nearby Wal-Mart where they killed another man who may have attempted to stop them with his concealed weapon (So much for a good guy with a gun stopping bad guys with guns.), before exchanging gunfire with the police, and eventually retreating to the back of the store where they killed themselves.

Now if you are picking up on the fact that his happened in Nevada, with two people identified as "sovereign citizens," and wondering if there might be a connection to recent events on the Bundy Ranch, well give yourself a gold star.

Courtesy of the Review-Journal:

The shooters were a married couple thought to be in their late 20s who were new to the Las Vegas Valley, according to a law enforcement official close to the investigation. Police are looking into their links to the white supremacy movement and found swastika symbols during their initial investigation. 

Residents of the Bruce Street apartment complex gathered outside the building to talk about the couple whose unit was being searched. 

Several neighbors identified the man as Jared, while one called the woman Amanda. 

Like many of the neighbors contacted, Krista Koch said she didn’t know the couple’s last names. She described them as “militant.” They talked about planning to kill police officers, “going underground” and not coming out until the time was right to kill. 

Brandon Monroe, 22, has lived in the complex for about two weeks. He said the man who lived in the apartment that was being searched often rambled about conspiracy theories. He often wore camouflage or dressed as Peter Pan to work as a Fremont Street Experience street performer. A woman lived with him, Monroe said, but he didn’t see her as often. 

They were weird people, Monroe said, adding that he thought the couple used methamphetamines.  

The man told Monroe he had been kicked off Cliven Bundy’s ranch 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas while people from throughout the U.S. gathered there in protest of a Bureau of Land Management roundup of Bundy’s cattle.

Kind of makes sense in way. After all the Bundy standoff brought all kinds of nuts out of the  woodwork to congregate in a place where they felt their anti-government, and racist attitudes would be welcome.

But where did they go after? 

Of course you know that the gun nuts and Bundy supporters are going to quickly identify this as a "false flag" operation by the government to undermine the 2nd Amendment and smear those who participated in the Bundy Ranch standoff right?

Oh yeah, count on it.

Update: You know if these two had not offed themselves they might have received a hosting slot on Fox News. They are certainly well within their demographic.

Update 2: What did I say?


  1. Anonymous6:24 AM

    As far as the gun nuts are concerned, everything that any government agency does is a conspiracy. I'm more interested in what the gop response will be.

  2. Anonymous6:53 AM

    6:24 -- exactly. Probably nothing at all!

    The GOP gets all worked up about foreign terrorists, but they'll stay absolutely silent about the terrorists in our midst, the crazy white racists who they need as a backdrop for their crazy white racist agenda.

  3. I wonder if "Joe the Plumber" will send his words of wisdom to the bereaved families... isn't he pretty much the spokesperson for the GOP Teabaggers in this type of situation?

    1. Anita Winecooler5:01 PM

      So true. Here's another asking why not ONE republican or teabagger spoke out against this hideous murder.

  4. Anonymous6:56 AM

    Sarah, we're waiting for your facebook post about this event. We need to hear your thoughts on this event, and on the "sovereign citizen" movement.
    If you stay silent, you're tacitly supporting their actions -- or you're afraid of getting on their bad side.

    1. Anonymous7:39 AM

      Sarah is probably out shopping for a new gun to give to Todd. Wasn't that her reaction to the Newtown massacre?

    2. Anonymous7:48 AM

      Don't expect one peep out of RAM or her.
      She encourages and celebrates this stuff.

    3. Anonymous8:10 AM


    4. Anonymous8:29 AM

      Sovereign citizen Palin, queen of all things tea bag and the leader of the GOP, has her code and speaks to her people. She must be tickled pink when they listen to her and know what to do.

      One of them shouted, “This is the start of a revolution,” before killing one of the officers execution style as they refilled a soda... That sure showed those yoga lickin' libruls.

    5. Anonymous8:35 AM

      7:48 AM Yep. If only we could hear their plans, but they have all that covered.

      The suicide couple will be martyrs in their very large organization.

    6. Anonymous10:05 AM

      The Palins are revved up and will to reload asap.

  5. Anonymous7:05 AM

    The pee pond is already touting "false flag."

    1. Anonymous8:45 AM

      Their problem is like the little boy that cried wolf.... "false flag" "false flag" "false flag" No one will listen to them whine. Now those words show their guilt and cowardly blame someone else.

  6. Anonymous7:15 AM

    Neighbors: Las Vegas Shooters Bragged About Taking Part In Bundy Standoff

    ...Neighbors in an apartment complex where the two suspects lived said they “had a reputation for spouting racist, anti-government views” and boasted about their gun collection, according to the Las Vegas Sun. The newspaper reported that residents of the apartment complex who spoke about the suspects also brought up the couple’s relationship with Bundy Ranch, where the two bragged about being present for the standoff between militia members and the Bureau of Land Management.

    One neighbor who lived next door to the couple told the Las Vegas Review-Journal that the male suspect had said he was kicked off Bundy Ranch at some point during the militia's protest against the BLM.

  7. johnie2xs7:33 AM

    If they haven't already been designated as such, all self described "Sovereign Citizens" should be declared terrorists and be rousted and stripped of all weapons. They want a fight, then give it to them. Flush them out along with their enablers.

    1. Remember when Janet Napolitano tried to warn about these kinds of people, in our own country, and she was shouted down and shamed by the GOP, the NRA, and white male gun-kooks everywhere? Now the DHS is trying to reinstate the program, and they are crying foul again. Sorry, but there are too many guns, too many deluded people listening to the right's fear-mongers, and way too many shootings. And no, RW, we are not going around shooting people to make you look bad. How stupid is that line of thought? At least take responsibility for what is happening. Next time it could be you or your child who dies.

    2. Technically were all born sovereign. There are crazy sovereigns too just like non-sovereigns. But get educated. Read the constitution, The Magna carta (which is the foundation of liberty) and of course the Confirmatio Cartarum (which requires all officials to accept the Magna Carta as common law) funny if more people weren't so self consumed they may educate themselves. Like I said technically were all supposed to be sovereign which means NO VICTIM NO CRIME. STATE CANT BE A VICTIM BECAUSE A SOVEREIGN OWNS THE GOVERNMENT AND COURTS BECAUSE THE SOVEREIGN IS ONE OF THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE. The mind is a beautiful thing dont let it go to waste. Get educated!!!

  8. Anonymous7:40 AM

    "False Flag" is the newest RWNJ term that has been bandied about for just about anything having to do with this administration but the term now has infiltrated even the most RW of groups against their own when things go awry. Operation American Spring is the current example.

    I have maintained for years that our greatest threat to the personal freedom we enjoy is from within. Those who keep their eyes trained on the Taliban seem to forget about Timothy McVeigh and Oklahoma. Disaffected Americans with automatic weapons are the real threat to the safety of ordinary citizens.

    My prayers go out to the families of those killed in yesterdays latest armed violence.


    1. Anonymous8:16 AM

      I made a similar comment below before I saw yours! I will never forget the fireman holding the bloodied body of little Bailey who was killed in the explosion. She was the same age as my daughter who is now a 22 year old college student. She and those babies who perished in that domestic terrorist assault never had the opportunity to grow up and go to still breaks my heart. Domestic terrorism is a daily threat to all of us, and we better start realizing they have easier access to ways to harm us than we could ever imagine.

  9. Anonymous7:51 AM

    Based on Sarah's own words, these are her kind of people.

    Fuck You Sarah.

    1. Anonymous8:39 AM

      She is a leader.

  10. Anonymous7:52 AM

    More idiotic cretins displaying and openly carrying their artillery any time, any where. They are low-functioning and operating with mostly non-existent brain cells, as are their teeny weeny penises.

    1. Yep. When I see one of those flags or that phrase on a license plate, my Idiot radar goes off.
      M from MD

    2. Anonymous9:52 AM

      I'm wondering why the FBI and/or cops were not notified when the guy said he was going to kill cops? I would have called them immediately the way our country is today. These idiots have to be stopped!

    3. Anonymous11:07 AM

      I'm wondering why the FBI and/or cops were not notified when the guy said he was going to kill cops?

      People in some circles and neighborhoods probably hear that all the time. Also when our leaders are threatened. They may feel fine about certain people being assassinated and think only a snitch calls the authorities. Our society has deteriorated.

  11. How crazy do they have to be for Cliven Bundy to throw them off his ranch? That kind of crazy should have been looked into, especially if they were openly telling neighbors they planned to kill cops. How would they think this would start a revolution?

  12. Anonymous8:06 AM

    ass-hole idiots, palin, mccain and other effin' clowns bitching about the 5 traded "terrorists" better wake up and smell the coffee. Domestic terrorism is what Americans need to be concerned about now...Don't forget OKC ever!

  13. Anonymous8:08 AM

    Good guy without a gun overtakes armed suspect after woman was fatally shot

    Idiot Sets Up Target In Backyard, Shoots At It Right Toward An Elementary School

    Watch: KKK Explain Their Plan For Expansion, Including Military-Style Combat Training

    1. Anonymous6:10 PM

      I am a non violent person but watching those KKK clowns. Well I would like to see one by one of them dropped into a war zone. I bet they are chicken shits.
      They are tough in groups and the dark of the night.

  14. Anonymous8:22 AM

    They talked about killing police and the neighbors stayed silent?
    I would be on the phone so fast. What is the matter with people?


  15. Anonymous9:10 AM

    5 released Taliban - 0. Domestic sovereign citizen terrorists - 3.

  16. SHARON9:11 AM

    I live in Las Vegas....all this happened in No Las Vegas which is the older part of town near Nellis AFB, a section of town you don't want to live in. It has been on the news constantly and I believe these guys were thrown off the Bundy ranch which pretty much tells you what they were after. I wouldn't even walk on the strip at this point....this craziness could go anywhere.

  17. Anonymous9:27 AM

    There are reports out now with info from the shooters' facebook page postings and 'likes.'

    "Jerad Miller sketched out his interests with the groups and individuals he “liked” on Facebook, including Operation American Spring, Alliance Defending Freedom, the National Rifle Association, The Heritage Foundation, Rand Paul 2016, Three Percenter Nation, and Ron Paul.

    "Amanda Miller also “liked” Ron Paul, Freedom Works, and Three Percenter Nation, in addition to various paranormal groups, Stop Amnesty, and Drudge Report."

    "He shared a viral image suggesting the U.S. trade five Democratic lawmakers for a U.S. Marine who has been held for two months on weapons charges in Mexico after crossing the border with legally purchased firearms – a suggestion jokingly made last week by Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY)."

  18. Anonymous9:35 AM

    I found a parody flag image of the Gadsden flag online. It features a big steaming pile of crap with the inscription "Don't Turd On Me."

    Should be a T-shirt.....

  19. Anonymous9:42 AM

    Walmart ‘revolution’ shooters ID’d as right-wing conspiracy nuts with a deathwish

    ...Jerad Miller’s last Facebook post, made Saturday, hinted at the couple’s plans.

    “The dawn of a new day. May all of our coming sacrifices be worth it,” he posted.

    A shirtless, crying Jerad Miller posted a video in July 2013 professing his love for Amanda Miller before he began serving a jail term.

    “I’m going to miss your smile and your laugh, and the way you can always bring a smile to my face eventually, no matter how crabby of a mood I’m in because of the New World Order and sh-t,” he said. “I just wish we could wake up our families, I wish we could live in a happy-go-lucky world and not have to worry about none of this. I wish we didn’t have to go through this sh-t, but we do.”

    Neighbors said Jerad Miller claimed he had gone to the Bundy ranch but was asked to leave, and he made similar claims on YouTube.

    “I was out there but they told me and my wife to leave because I am a felon,” Miller commented April 19. “They don’t seem to understand that they are all felons now for intimidating law enforcement with deadly weapons. So don’t tell you that they need people. We sold everything we had to buy supplies and quit our jobs to be there 24/7. How dare you ask for help and shun us dedicated patriots!”

    1. Anonymous10:56 AM

      So why didn't they go to the Bundy ranch and shoot the "felons" who shunned them? The Bundycrats damaged them more than did a couple of beat cops on their lunch break.

  20. Anonymous11:02 AM

    This is tragic and deeply saddens me. My best to the families.

  21. Anonymous11:11 AM

    Dangerous ideologies –> Patrik Jonsson reports for the Christian Science Monitor that Friday’s attack on a Georgia courthouse was carried out by a member of the “sovereign citizens movement,” who “believe that most of the US government is illegitimate.” Fortunately, only the shooter died in that incident. Another attack in Las Vegas yesterday was worse.

    Expansion plans

  22. Anonymous11:26 AM

    Video Emerges of Vegas Cop Killer Jerad Miller Speaking at Bundy Ranch

    ...The deceased shooters, identified as Jerad and Amanda Miller, apparently have an extensive background in supporting causes like Bundy, the National Rifle Association, and fringe conspiracy theorist Alex Jones. According to police, the shooters draped a “Don’t tread on me” (Gadsden) flag over the bodies of their victims, and declared their spree as part of a “revolution.”

    YouTube clips have been found to show Jerad interviewing fellow protesters at the Bundy ranch.

    Vegas Mayor: We Must Be on Alert for ‘Sick, Cowardly’ People Hoarding Guns

    Excoriating the “random act of hate” she said led to the fatal shooting of two police officers and one bystander by a pair of shooters on Sunday, Las Vegas Mayor Carolyn Goodman told CNN communities needed to be on the lookout for sick or angry individuals who spoke of hoarding guns.

    “We’ve got these sick, sick cowardly people out there that just decide to express themselves all the time with bullets,” Goodman said. “We see it repeatedly across this country.”

    “For all of us who are part of communities, we need to be alert and aware, and we need to make some contact if somebody is really strange and doing something and hoarding guns and we know it,” Goodman continued. “It is just a consistent anger by people, and it’s intolerable.”

  23. Anonymous11:31 AM

    Creepy coincidence that this couple is into the same thing as close friends of the Palins. They live in Alaska but take trips to Vegas all the time. When I saw these pictures
    I thought it was the husband that the Palins know. Political comrades during her time in Alaskan politics. What a coincidence.

    1. Anonymous8:43 AM

      The dude is a guard in the Alaska prison system. He doesn't want to kill nonuniform employees. He only hates Obama people.

  24. Anonymous11:56 AM

    The idiot media reported that a Nazi symbol was found at the scene and took that as license to conclude and report that the shooters were white supremacists.

    Not so fast.

    Clark County assistant sheriff Kevin McMahill told reporters:

    "One of the things that we believe at this point with the swastika is that we don't necessarily believe that they are white supremacists or associated with the Nazi movement," he said.

    "We believe they equate government and law enforcement with fascism and those that support with Nazis," he continued. "They believe that law enforcement is the oppressor and they are associated with the Nazi movement."

  25. Anonymous11:57 AM

    Interesting quote from shooter on one of the link pages.

    About being turned away at Bundy Ranch...

    “I was out there but they told me and my wife to leave because I am a felon,” Miller commented April 19. “They don’t seem to understand that they are all felons now for intimidating law enforcement with deadly weapons..."

    Another comment from a family member who wouldn't bail them out of landlord problems. Good tough love, but I hope they are not in any way blaming themselves for this incident.

    "He complained in a July 2013 video that the couple’s “brainwashed” family members would not help them during a dispute with their landlord, but one of those relatives disputed the characterization.

    “Amanda was fine before you came around,” said Julie Clites. “Now she sits there doing everything you say because YOU have brainwashed her. Everyone of the grandkids has a future. Amanda married you and immediately lost hers. We won’t help either of you because it is disgusting what you two believe in and stand for.”

  26. Super Fan In Atlanta12:20 PM

    From Talking Points Memo re: Jerad Miller & Bundy Ranch Exile

    But things apparently didn't go well for Miller at the ranch. In another apparent entry, posted to a Google Plus account attributed to a Jerad Miller, he wrote that he had been "shunned" at Bundy Ranch and asked to leave because he was a convicted felon.

    "I was out there but they told me and my wife to leave because I am a felon," he wrote. "They don't seem to understand that they are all felons now for intimidating law enforcement with deadly weapons. So don't tell you that they need people. We sold everything we had to buy supplies and quit our jobs to be there 24/7. How dare you ask for help and shun us dedicated patriots!"

    Did you catch that he knew they were committing felonies?

  27. Anonymous12:20 PM

    Report: Vegas Shooters Planned To Take Over Courthouse, Execute Officials

    Documents connected with the shooters who killed three people Sunday in Las Vegas before killing themselves detailed a larger plan to take over a courthouse and execute public officials, according to the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

    Sheriff's Official: Las Vegas Shooters Saw Police As Nazis

    ..."We believe they equate government and law enforcement with fascism and those that support with Nazis," he continued. "They believe that law enforcement is the oppressor and they are associated with the Nazi movement."

  28. Anonymous12:28 PM

    "Jared Miller pulled a handgun out and shot officer Soldo one time in the back of the head," McMahill said. "Officer Beck immediately began to react ... [but] was shot once in the throat area. Amanda Miller [then] removed a handgun from her purse and both Jared and Amanda fired multiple shots into officer Beck."

    After shooting the officers, police say the suspects pulled the men out of the booth and laid them on the floor. They then placed a flag – a yellow banner with a coiled snake above the words, "Don't tread on Me" – on top of Beck, along with a swastika. On Soldo, the two placed a note, police said, that read, "This is the start of the revolution."

    After the shooting, police say the couple took the officers handguns and ammunition and fled across the street to a nearby Walmart. There, police say, Jared Miller fired off one round and told everyone to get out of the store. At some point he allegedly yelled, "This is a revolution."

    According to police, Walmart shopper Robert Wilcox, 31, was carrying a concealed weapon and confronted Jared Miller. Wilcox was apparently unaware of Amanda Miller and when he walked by her to confront her husband, she shot him in the rib area.

    A shootout with pursuing officers ensued, during which Amanda Miller "took her handgun and fired several rounds into Jared," McMahill said. "At that point Amanda took her handgun and ended her life with one gunshot to the head."

  29. Anonymous12:36 PM

    Surprise, Surprise! Alex Jones Calls Las Vegas Shooting a False Flag Set Up By Obama

    ...Jones took to the radio and claimed that President Obama, with the help of Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg, inserted certain items in Jerad Miller’s Facebook profile to show that he was a supporter of patriot groups, liked many Tea Party figures and so on. On top of that, Jones painted himself the victim, as he said that Obama and Zuckerberg obviously did this to make Jones and his movement appear to be responsible for this tragedy. Of course, in the world that Jones lives in, the Millers were actually working for Obama and went on a sucide mission in order to help the government confiscate everyone’s guns and place the freedom fighters in FEMA re-education camps.

    Below is video of Jones whining about Facebook, courtesy of Right Wing Watch:

  30. Anonymous12:44 PM

    The Las Vegas Shooters, The ‘Patriot’ Movement And Their Warning Of ‘Sacrifices’

    ....In the days and weeks before the attack, Miller posted a series of comments on his Facebook page indicating that, in order to restore “freedom” to the United States, the “best men” would strike for “a free and just world with our blood, sweat and tears as pavement,” he said on June 2. “There is no greater cause to die for than liberty,” he wrote on May 2. “I will willingly die for liberty.” On March 25, he wrote: “I stand firm in my convictions and stand prepared to die for them. … Come for me, free me from your slavery. Give me the death a hero deserves.”

    Amanda Miller, who married Jerad on Sept. 22, 2012, didn’t sound very different on her own Facebook page on May 23. “[T]o the people of the world… your [sic] lucky i can’t kill you now but remember one day one day i will get you because one day all hell will break lose [sic] and i’ll be standing in the middle of it with a shot gun in one hand and a pistol in the other.”

  31. Anonymous12:49 PM

    Meet the Right-Wing Tea Party Domestic Terrorists Who Wanted to Start a ‘Revolution’ (Screenshots)

    Jerad Miller’s recent posts on Facebook are frightening, to say the least:

  32. Anonymous1:10 PM

    Alex Jones loses it: Harry Reid staged ‘false flag’ Vegas shooting with MK-ULTRA mind control

    “Would they stage this now? The answer is absolutely,” he insisted. “If they would stage al Qaeda attacks, if they would do all of this, would they do this to get our guns and blame the Tea Party that’s sweeping in every runoff election and every primary right now? Defeating, in almost every case, 90 percent of Republican incumbents are going down! 1776 is happening, peacefully, through the system. They want to start a civil war with the police.”

    Jones speculated that the government had sent CIA “cutouts” to the Pizza shop to kill the officers.

    “They’re getting ready to false flag, and it happens right in Harry Reid’s district, right in his state, right in his city with his police department.”

    Listen to the audio below from the Alex Jones Show, broadcast June 9, 2014.

  33. Anonymous1:22 PM

    Family mass killing in San Carlos Park

    1. Anonymous3:00 PM

      Another 'false flag'?

  34. Anita Winecooler4:35 PM

    When Bundy smacks your wrist and says "go home" and Alex Jones chimes in about false flag operations, it means you're the craziest of the crazy. The guy worked as Peter Pan around kids and the girlfriend was the manager of the embroidery department of "Hobby Lobby, WTF I thought Hobby Lobby was pro christian, pro law and order, and pro america?
    When you're too chickenshit to face the consequences of your actions and kill yourself, the revolution never started.

    This is the byproduct of the bullshit they get from Fox News, Breitbart, and celebutards like Rush, Sarah, Bristol, the crazy pastor who burns Quorans, the kkk, the neo nazis and toss in your everyday moronic racists.
    The police and the shopper didn't deserve to die, my thoughts are with their wives, children, husbands, friends and anyone who knew and loved them. The chickenshit neighbors KNEW they were crazy and didn't report them? What's wrong with this picture?

  35. Anonymous5:41 PM

    These are exactly the type of people Palin panders to. Hope she's proud of their actions...gunning down cops eating their lunch is so very noble.

    1. Anonymous7:58 PM

      She not only panders to them. These are the type of people she's known for years and have helped her do her dirty work. I saw a man from her neck of the woods he goes way back with the Palins, he was on Patriot Nation.

      He sounded like Palin the way he attacks President Obama. There is no doubt these are her close friends. If you want a closer look at Palin and her ilk check out Patriot Nation.

  36. Anonymous6:56 PM

    Yes, these are Palin People! As for the" Don't Tread On Me"
    Flag these Palin crazies are always waving. More fitting to
    replace the head of the snake with a picture of Palin!

  37. Anonymous7:48 PM

    Sarah Palin Standing Tall On 'Don't Retreat, Reload'

  38. Anonymous8:07 PM

    Sarah Palin Standing Tall On 'Don't Retreat, Reload'

  39. Anonymous9:01 PM

    What creeps me out is the Palin's old friends dress up like Jerad and Amanda Miller. Too many coincidences, they are also Three Percenters and make many trips to Las Vegas. Someone in their family may be a make up artist, and that is why they do all the costumes.

  40. My son unfortunately buys into this sovereign nation crap and government false flag operations. .....this bullshit has taken over his life and he has become obsessed with all this conspiracy theory ruined his life and I'm afraid he might be slipping away from the reality that utilizes common sense and going over the falls in the leaky barrel of bullshit you guys dish out as reality!!!!


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