Saturday, June 07, 2014

Wayne LaPierre was wrong. What it takes to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with some pepper spray.

Jon Meis, hero of Seattle Pacific University.
Courtesy of The Guardian:  

On Thursday afternoon at half-past-three, a man walked into Otto Miller Hall at Seattle Pacific University, carrying a shotgun and a handgun. He opened fire, killing one person and injuring three more. 

When the shooter stopped to reload, according to police reports, an engineering student named Jon Meis sprayed him with pepper spray, incapacitating him, before grabbing him in a chokehold. Passers-by helped Meis hold the gunman until police arrived on the scene. 

"There are a number of heroes in this," assistant police chief Paul McDonagh said, according to the Associated Press. "The people around [the gunman] stepped up."

Now I am in no way attempting to suggest that a can of pepper spray is the best possible deterrent against a gunman. Every situation is different, and what works once, may not work the next time.

However it is worth noting that Mr. Meis did not accidentally shoot an innocent bystander while incapacitating this killer, nor did his efforts to stop him result in the shooter's death.

Years ago, during my initial training in martial arts, I asked my instructor why he would not teach me to use the Chinese sword that he wielded with such grace and power.

His answer in response was that weapons can malfunction, be stolen, or misplaced but a well trained body, fueled by courage, would never let you down.

I would say that in this case his words proved somewhat prophetic as they have multiple times during my own life.

This young man demonstrated something that many 2nd Amendment advocates seem to lack, the ability to overcome his fear.

31 comments:

  1. Anonymous4:39 PM

    A shotgun? without a magazine that holds a gazillion bullets?

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  2. Anonymous4:42 PM

    o-t but I love how Bristol mocks how stalkerish and stupid tmz is. Why anyone would feed them crap is beyond me.

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    1. Anonymous5:01 PM

      Why is Bristol stalking Joyie Junker now? She wants to his attention or she wants people to think she has a friend?

      She must be off with Sarah and having some wild times. She just threw up some old dumb pictures in case any of their nut cases read her blog.

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    2. Anonymous6:03 PM

      Threw up. Heh, heh.

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    3. Anonymous11:23 PM

      Really? I thought she had all the trash rags on speed dial because you know - it makes her "famous". Apparently the story didn't go the way she liked.

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    4. Anonymous7:44 AM

      WARNING. Blind flat ass propaganda. TMZ and below reject and no one wants her story (lies).

      http://wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com/blogs/bristolpalin/files/2014/06/10294488_715678935158228_632401250249952641_n.jpg

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  3. Anonymous4:45 PM

    To everyone here and elsewhere, PLEASE for the love of Satan, learn the definition of racism.

    EVERYONE here uses it incorrectly.

    Sorry for the random vent but it's beyond annoying.

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    1. Anonymous5:00 PM

      rac·ism
      ˈrāˌsizəm/
      noun
      noun: racism

      1. the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
      2. prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
      "a program to combat racism"
      synonyms: racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice, xenophobia, chauvinism, bigotry, casteism

      https://www.google.com/search?q=racism.&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs

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    2. Anonymous5:02 PM

      Go ahead and tell us what you want us to learn.

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    3. Anita Winecooler7:02 PM

      That was awfully awesome and cool but nowhere near gnarley! . I don't have to know what it means, I know it when I see it.

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    4. Anonymous11:25 PM

      PLEASE for the love of Satan tell us what you are referring to. Otherwise we have no idea what you are talking about. You sound like a nut.

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    5. You know what is annoying? Idiots that make a very specific complaint and then call it a "random" vent.

      Learn the definition of "random." YOU always use it incorrectly and it's beyond annoying.

      Also annoying. Making a blanket accusation that EVERYONE does something and then not providing any examples. But then, you don't have any. So shove off with your annoying "random" vent.

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  4. .
    rac·ism [rey-siz-uhm] Show IPA
    noun
    1.
    a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
    2.
    a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
    3.
    hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

    SO, 4:45, what is it that we get wrong? The RW and is intolerant of anyone not white. These gun fetishists are almost exclusively white and male, and believe in white superiority. Just what's your beef?

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  5. Anonymous5:02 PM

    wonder if the white trash ammosexual inbred retards have started sending Mr Meis death threats yet - publishing his address and phone number ?

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  6. Anonymous5:02 PM

    Gun Dealer: ‘Open Carry Tarrant County is Like the Demonic Offspring of Westboro Baptist Church and Boko Haram’ (Video)

    Rich enjoys his right to openly carry a handgun but clearly draws a distinction between openly carrying and carrying for attention, saying:

    “So now I have a f*cking AR strapped across my chest, and I’m walking through Walmart with my Tasty Treats, okay? What do I look like now? Well first off, I look like an a*shole, okay? Plain and simple. I look like an a*shole. Second, I look like a f*ckin’ psycho . . . I look like a lunatic right now.
    Quite honestly, if I walked into Walmart like this, even here in Oklahoma, the first thing that’s gonna happen is people are gonna flip plum the f*ck out. The second thing that’s going to happen is those people who are flipping plum the f*ck out are calling 911, and then the cops are going to show up, and I’m going to be ‘all surprised’ about it. No I’m not. I expect that to happen. Why? Because I’m carrying a f*cking AR in Walmart. Seriously.”

    Rich shared the difference between gun rights advocates like him and ammosexual terrorists like those who belong to Open Carry Tarrant County:

    http://aattp.org/texas-gun-dealer-open-carry-tarrant-county-is-like-the-demonic-offspring-of-westboro-baptist-church-and-boko-haram-video/

    GOP Gun-Nut Says Armed Citizens Reduce Casualties During Mass Shootings, Gets FACT-CHECKED! BOOM!

    http://aattp.org/gop-gun-nut-says-armed-citizens-reduce-casualties-during-mass-shootings-gets-fact-checked-boom/

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  7. Anonymous5:06 PM

    Student who helped stop Seattle shooter is flooded with wedding gifts

    Jon Meis became an instant icon of courage on Thursday when he and fellow students helped subdue a gunman who was on a rampage inside Seattle Pacific University.

    It turns out that the 22-year-old is also planning to get married. His newfound fans discovered the student’s wedding registry and have been buying up presents for Meis and his future wife.

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/student-who-helped-stop-seattle-shooter-is-flooded-with-wedding-gifts-003503816.html

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    1. How delightful! What a sweet ending (beginning, rather)! Jon's future wife must be SO proud of him.

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  8. Anonymous5:16 PM

    This is brilliant.

    "Instagram is dangerous. What u see ONLY exists n what you don't see NEVER existed n u make up your own story about someone else thru pics." Sorry for the abbrev. It was a tweet

    The way dumbshits utilize pics to tell the story THEY want to to spread propaganda is beyond gross. Bloggers, beware.

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    1. Anita Winecooler7:04 PM

      SMH

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    2. Anonymous9:48 PM

      5:16 PM Pics like Sarah Palin wearing her 'EMPATHY BELLY'? Pics like Bristol Pregnant on DWTS? Pics like Willow Pregnant on 'Life's a (Shailey) Tripp?

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    3. If the abbreviations you apologized for were in a tweet, why did you abbreviate abbreviation as abbrev after the tweet quote?

      But you do win dumbass statement of the day (or morning) for this:
      "The way dumbshits utilize pics to tell the story THEY want to to spread propaganda is beyond gross. Bloggers, beware."

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    4. Anonymous7:37 AM

      The way dip-shit Bristol throws up old pics on a blog as if she has a family is propaganda beyond gross. When she has her boy toy slumber with the yummies especially. Does she also do instagram?

      Her ex-toy friend does that kind of propaganda.

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  9. Anonymous5:20 PM

    What a courageous young man. The others also.

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  10. Anonymous5:58 PM

    Sadly, it took this long to disprove La Pierre.

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  11. Anita Winecooler7:10 PM

    This is one brave kid. Glad it worked in his favor and I'm glad that others helped until the cops came and hauled the perp away. He's got a steady hand and good aim, usually you have to be pretty damn close to effectively get enough pepper spray into the eyes/resperatory system.

    So what is the meme now, Wayne?

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    1. Anonymous7:59 AM

      This man Meis deserves all the good coming to him. He didn't hesitate and was on target with pepper spray far better than many are with their penis extensions.

      Meis appeared shaken, at moments on the verge of tears, when ambulances arrived to tend to the wounded. Medics put him on a stretcher and took him to a hospital to check him over.
      http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140606132146-jon-meis-horizontal-gallery.jpg

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    2. Anita Winecooler5:13 PM

      I absolutely agree. How many others were there with pepper spray and did nothing? He deserves all the good, he's earned it.

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  12. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=687233347981031&set=a.241007069270330.50975.240984512605919&type=1&theater

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  13. Anonymous11:19 PM

    And sometimes what it takes to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a lasso or getting the snot beat out of you by a crowd.

    http://freakoutnation.com/2014/05/29/georgia-man-opens-fire-at-a-rodeo-get-lassoed-guests-beat-the-snot-out-of-him/

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  14. Anonymous4:38 AM

    Wait until someone wants to charge him for possessing and using pepper spray. It must be against the 2nd Amendment rights of the shooter. He and the NRA will claim that it was unfair of the student to use a concealed can of pepper spray.
    Beaglemom

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  15. Anonymous10:29 AM

    What a beautiful couple.
    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/07/article-0-1E83315300000578-120_634x472.jpg

    I love this!
    http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2023788352_spumeisxml.html

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