Monday, December 08, 2014

American pastor who helped craft Uganda's "Kill the Gays" legislation to be tried for crimes against humanity.

Courtesy of Death and Taxes:  

The First Circuit Court of Appeals has denied Pastor Scott Lively’s petition to have a crimes against humanity lawsuit against him dropped. 

The anti-gay pastor will stand trial in a federal court in Massachusetts for his part in crafting Uganda’s notorious Anti-Homosexuality Act, popularly known as the “Kill the Gays” bill. The bill was largely the product of a workshop held in Uganda by Lively and two other american anti-gay activists, focused on “how to make gay people straight, how gay men often sodomized teenage boys and how ‘the gay movement is an evil institution’ whose goal is ‘to defeat the marriage-based society and replace it with a culture of sexual promiscuity.”

Look, apparently you can still get justice in America.  Assuming of course that he is eventually convicted.

This bill in Uganda has spread fear throughout the gay community, and among those who have friends and family who are gay. And resulted in a dramatic spike in the number of attacks on homosexuals.

Of course these charges have done little or nothing to change Lively's homophobia:

Lively said that homosexuality is a Satanic attack “on the very essence of who we are” that God has deemed a more offensive abomination than mass killings: “When you look in the Bible, there are sins that you would think of as worse, you know, murder or mass murder, but what does it come down to? Leviticus 18 tells the Hebrews exactly what it is that God identifies as the most rebellious behavior, the behavior that causes the land to actually vomit out its inhabitants and every item on that list, except for child sacrifice, is sexual perversion, and child sacrifice is often a form of sexual perversion. So that’s where we are.” 

“Homosexuality is not just another sin,” he added, “it is the sin that defines rebellion against God, the outer edge of rebellion against God and it is the harbinger of God’s wrath, that’s why the Scripture gives the warning, ‘as in the days of Noah.’” 

Oh yeah this guy needs to spend some real quality time in prison. 

12 comments:

  1. Anonymous3:27 AM

    Good. Thanks for this post.

    Scott Lively appears to representative the perfect domioinist christiany theocrat.

    Lord have mercy on us all.

    dowl

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  2. Anonymous4:46 AM

    so I guess those ten commandments don't mean much to Christians..... this guy is nothing more than a loon who is too lazy to work, he doesn't have to since people are so silly to give him money, and those same fools believe the hate that spews from his mouth.

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  3. Anonymous4:54 AM

    I'm heterosexual, as are almost all my friends. I think I have a pretty good handle on what heterosexual men think about, maybe to the point of obsession in some cases. And it ain't other guys dicks.

    I'll celebrate if this guy loses in court, and I hope Rick Warren is next in line.

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  4. Anonymous5:55 AM

    The guy looks gay. You know.. in a Marcus Bachmann kind of way.

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  5. I give it less than six months before he's found in a motel room with a gay hooker and an 8-ball of meth. I'm not making this comment to be cute or funny, seriously...it happens to every one of them, every time

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  6. Randall6:21 AM

    Ever notice how the most hateful people are damn near always also the most "religious"?

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  7. Anonymous6:30 AM

    I guess he missed the two big ones in Mark when he was helping to craft that hideous law. Mark 12:28-31
    28 One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”

    29 “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.[a] 30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’[b] 31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[c] There is no commandment greater than these.”

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  8. Ever heard of 'Gay-dar'?

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  9. Anonymous8:18 AM

    Leviticus 18 lists 18 taboos.

    15 refer to sex with various related women
    1 refers to sex with animals
    1 refers to child sacrifice
    1 refers to male-male sex

    The penalty for committing the listed acts is the equivalent of being kicked out of the family and religious community and is NOT a death penalty.

    It's beyond ridiculous that anyone could read Lev. 18 and conclude homosexuality is a satanic attack and the greatest of all bible-defined sins.

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2018

    Oh, and lesbians didn't make the list.


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  10. A Superfan In Atlanta11:26 AM

    Those who speak the loudest, often times are guilty of the act they protest

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  11. Anonymous12:37 PM

    Gryph, how will a person who loses a civil case brought by another individual go to prison? Please explain: I'm waiting. You need to read the facts before jumping to such a conclusion. This. is. a. civil. suit. If the man wins it (assuming he can prove standing to sue), how will he imprison the pastor? He can't.

    If people could be imprisoned for having detestable ideas, how many of US would be in prison under a republican administration? So, why would we apply such a law to those with whom we disagree? Please think before you carry this dialogue any further. I personally think we're already in far too advanced a police state, and have no wishes to imprison anyone for anything other than literal criminal acts of violence against others. I have not read the Ugandan law: have you? I am not aware that this man has committed, at his own hand, violence against others, have you?

    That said, sure, he may well be a closeted gay: we've seen this behavior pattern (projection) all too often among the righties. But in America, people are free to be just as nutty as they wish and just as vocal as they wish, provided they do not commit physical violence against others. If people in Uganda wish to sue this man, perhaps that's a whole different story. But they would have to prove standing as well. For now, it sounds like a mud-slinging (he said, she said) contest, not even remotely like something that will send someone to the slammer.

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  12. Anita Winecooler4:30 PM

    With a name like "Lively", he'll be moving around a lot, running in place, doing squats, and preaching to a captive audience in jail.

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