Monday, April 20, 2015

Well it appears that there are other bloggers out there who do not think we should stop pursuing babygate either.

Courtesy of Crooks and Liars:  

Rumors, innuendo and inconclusive photographs do not a true story make, but the fact of the matter is that seven years after the birth of Trig Paxson Van Palin, there is no proof that right-wing sweetheart Sarah Palin is his biological mother and evidence he may be her grandson. 

If you believe that I - or anyone else - has no business pursuing the question of whether John McCain's 2008 running mate put over an enormous hoax on the American public because the whole idea is so . . . well, yucky, then you need read no further. Besides which, a kid with disabilities having a home with a family that has plenty of dough is enough for many people who are averse to questioning Palin's serial evasions. 

But if you, like me, remain curious about the evasions concerning her alleged pregnancy and Trig's birth, as well as her unwillingness to provide any proof to tamp down rumors that she faked the birth of the Down syndrome child, then stick around. Palin still will not even release a copy of Trig's birth certificate although she hectored Barack Obama to release his. 

This story deserves to have legs because the former half-term Alaska governor turned author and reality show princess and most recently Tea Party carnival sideshow freak not only has not gone away. 

She continues to inject herself into national politics, having campaigned early on for the 2012 Republican president nomination until even she realized that her brand was tarnished despite a small but hard-core conservative constituency that continues to cling to her every statement as if they were Biblical missives.

Gee all of that sounds awfully familiar to all of us here on IM. Nice to hear it said someplace else though, isn't it?

C and L then links to a post over at Kiko's House, updated from 2011, which does an admirable job of laying out Palin's birth story, as well as all of the reasons that it does not hold water.

The author, Shaun Mullins, also quotes from Geoffrey Dunn, Joe McGinniss, and Andrew Sullivan as well.

There are also a few quotes from Professor Scharlott, mostly a refutation of the two Trig's theory that many of you may remember he did not exactly agree with me on. (Actually I think I proved my point with this post, but let's not open old wounds.)

Interestingly enough the updated post was put up on Saturday, which was the same day that I wrote this post wondering out loud if anybody cared about the story anymore.

I have no evidence that Mullins was responding directly to my post, but it does answer the central question.

Apparently yes, it certainly DOES matter to quite a number of people.

Well, I guess it's time to roll up my sleeves again and get to work.

308 comments:

  1. Anonymous12:14 PM

    Not quite connected but interesting that someone has been left off this list http://dyn.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_republican_presidential_nomination-3823.html#polls

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      She was NOT left off! Open your eyes, Man and/or Lady!

      Sure, she's polling a lot lower than Kasich - which is sad - but still a teeny tiny bit higher than SpongeBob SquarePants - which is awesome if you're a fan!

      Of hers, that is. Sad if you were hoping the cartoon character was close to declaring his candidacy for the GOP presidential nom. Ain't gonna happen. To SB or SW.

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    2. Anonymous2:50 PM

      1:02 PM:
      WHO is not left off? I don't see a woman's name on that list..only these:

      Bush Walker Cruz Paul Rubio Huckabee Carson Christie Perry Santorum Jindal Kasich

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    3. Anonymous4:02 PM

      2:50 -
      I THINK what 1:02 was saying is that GrannyPalin was no more 'left off' that list than Groucho Marx or Daffy Duck was.

      As in 'not even a contender'.
      Because SHE'S NOT RUNNING, and NEVER WILL run for anything EVER again.

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  2. Post the tin cup and collect some funds and get back to work on this! You have a lot of people behind you.

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    1. Anonymous2:05 PM

      Would it be possible to establish a "go fund me" account for a reward for proof that Sarah didn't give birth to Trig?

      A big dollar reward just might do the trick.


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    2. Anonymous2:06 PM

      How about a "go fund me" account to establish a reward for proof that Sarah didn't give birth to Trig?

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    3. Anonymous2:47 PM

      great idea!

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    4. Balzafiar3:24 PM

      No, actually it is not a great idea. I would not want a Palin coming forward to collect. If the amount were large enough, you can bet your last dollar that would happen.

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  3. Anonymous12:23 PM

    "Well, I've had a two-bull".

    LOL

    "Whoever gave birth to Trig, it couldn't be Sarah. Remember, she had said that she 'not only had her tubes just tied, she had them cut, and the ends burned - or some such measure to make SURE she wasn't going to be having more babies. 

    "Didn't she have it done during the delivery of piper??

    "All of us who have kids that went to school with Sarah's kids know to be absolute factual gospel truth: Sarah Palin had a tubal ligation after her last baby (Piper) was born.

    "She then took several days off work- more than she took when she "had" Trig. She bitched at Todd afterward saying HE should have gotten the snip since it was so much easier for men."

    "Trig may actually have BEEN born at 7.5 months....but he wasn't born in April '08, and he sure as HELL did not issue forth from the tied, cut, and burned fallopian tubes of Sarah Louise Heath Palin."

    10:17 PM

    10:17PM is right on the money. 

    My two were in the same school as two of Sarah's at the same time. She volunteered for revolving carpool and bailed every single time. She called one morning saying she'd be unable to drive her planned day the next morning because she'd had "a tubal". I remember her saying it in that whiny fake accent she used to elicit sympathy: "Well, I've had a two-bull". I just rolled my eyes and got someone to fill in. 

    Two weeks after that when her next shift came up, she called again and this time it had gone from "a two-bull" to "my surgery". "I'm sorry, I can't make it 'cause yaknow I had surgery recently..."
    I remember some of the other moms and I joked that when her NEXT shift came up, she would be calling saying "I can't drive due to the recent double AMPUTATION of my tubes..."

    http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2011/02/frank-baileys-manuscript-and-how-it.html?m=1

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    1. Anonymous3:00 PM

      Cowards who won't go on record though. Even now.

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    2. Unless she can show you the scars and the paperwork saying it was done to her, I wouldn't believe a word she said.

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  4. Anonymous12:25 PM

    Reading your blog the last few days, we have so many theories out there-the Bristol is Trigs mom camp, the Trig was adopted to cover for Tripp's real birthday camp, the Todd affair/prostitute camp, the Mc Cain affair camp....so, yes we do need answers to this historical deceit. Thank you, Gryphen for your tireless efforts to complete this puzzle.

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    1. Anonymous2:52 PM

      How does the "Trig was adopted to cover for Tripp's real birthday" theory go? That immediately piqued my interest. I've never been able to figure out why they would pad Bristol to make her appear more pregnant (at the RNC convention- something was going on) and this seems to somehow work with there being an issue with Tripp's birthday. Plus, I don't buy that he was named Tripp as sheer coincidence. There's a story behind that.

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    2. Anonymous4:01 PM

      2:52, I can't buy into the Trig covering for Tripp version, so I can't explain it. I also never doubted that Bristol was pregnant at the RNC. I agree that the Tripp name has a story behind it.

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  5. Anonymous12:27 PM

    Perfect. All she has to do now is to produce the birth certificate and perhaps a dollop of dna to smote her haters once and for all .

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    1. Anonymous1:36 PM

      That will Never happen, Sarah will never UNSEAL any of her Family Records. Too much to hide!!!

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    2. Suzy Q4:04 PM

      Are you fucking kidding? If the American electorate (stupids) found out that she lied and conned them for 7 years she would be tarred, feathered, and run out of town/country on a rail!! Gryphen needs to keep it going but some people would never hear of it because then they would look like the fools that they are. We, here at IM, know we are right.

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    3. Anonymous5:31 PM

      She has had more than enough time to fake a birth certificate-the only proof that I will accept in a third party independent DNA test.

      Sarah is a sociopath, she thinks she is smarter than the rest of us and I cannot wait to see that smug smile wiped off her face when the truth comes out. The truth will come out, it always does.

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  6. That photo: SP does not look as if she had just been through a birthing, does she? It's like she holding somebody's baby -- just not hers. And looking at the camera, not the baby, as most new mothers do, don't they?

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    1. Anonymous12:49 PM

      My thoughts as well. If this is premie Trig, he sure doesn't look premie. Amazing!

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    2. Anonymous12:56 PM

      Sarah looks puffy and tired but not due to postpartum. And there's no way the baby Sarah's holding is a preemie just a few hours or days old. I didn't buy the story back then, and I'm not buying it now.

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    3. Anonymous1:09 PM

      If that were a preemie, it would be isolated for days if not more from all but immediate family. But you all know that of course.

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    4. Anonymous1:15 PM

      My youngest grandchild was a preemie and in NICU for two weeks. If Trig supposedly had a hole in his heart, he'd be in there for months! As for $arah, that is not a postpartum mother, "tight abs" or not. I call b------t to that picture and the whole story.

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    5. Anonymous1:46 PM

      That's exactly the vibe I get from the pic, and all the others, especially the one where she is holding him like Simba from the lion king. She did not give birth to child period.

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    6. Suzy Q4:09 PM

      And the fact that she took him to the "office" the next week after he was born so she could breastfeed him. She really poured it on. She just thought everybody wouldn't question her because she was so popular at the time. I forget. Did she bill her insurance company for the birth? If she did that could get a little tricky with fraud and all and if she didn't, why not?

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    7. Anonymous5:05 PM

      4:09 : she evidently DID try to bill the insurance company. There is an email out there of the insurance asking for a birth certificate, so they can cover him and the costs.
      Never heard anything after that, i.e. no idea if she actually was able to produce a B.C. or not. As governor at that time, it would have been easy for her to fake one. Especially with her doctor, CBJ, who seems to be complicit.
      The only thing I would trust nowadays would be a SUPERVISED taking of a sample DNA from her as well as from Trig. Otherwise, I believe she would scheme her way through this.

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    8. Anonymous5:44 PM

      She's puffy from all that travelling.

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    9. Anonymous5:58 PM

      505 forged birth certificate happens all the time

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  7. Anonymous12:32 PM

    OT, but I thought IM would enjoy this interaction on c4p earlier today (it has been removed, of course). Hats off to whomever did this:
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    Evil Lib
    2 minutes ago
    Have all of you decided on a wedding gift for "Barstool?" Sarah is expecting you to dig DEEP. She's pissed, Crawford didn't deliver on the $10k so now she has to for over $56.88 to WalMart on HER OWN for Barstool's engagement ring.

    Evil Lib
    6 minutes ago
    The lib community is a little upset with Gov Dirty Wig...no FB post wishing Happy B-Day for the DS kid she passes of as her own...sad.

    beautifulnrich1 Evil Lib
    3 minutes ago
    Get lost, loser

    barracuda43 Evil Lib
    4 minutes ago
    Come out from behind that computer and I will lay a Texas Butt whipping on you like you never have seen before you little parasite!

    Evil Lib
    8 minutes ago
    Where's "two anuses" and his imaginary girlfriend? I come here for the LOLs and he really brings it!

    Evil Lib iizthatiiz
    4 minutes ago
    Were you a hall monitor in grade school as well? You seem like the type who likes sticking their nose in other folks business. "Moderator"...big accomplishment.
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    Evil Lib
    13 minutes ago
    Good Day old people! (VG...still alive? Well STDs take time...)
    I wanted to give all of you panty sniffers and couch change vacuums the reality based community's thoughts on a "Palin Presidential Run"....hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah snort hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah small piss hah hah hah hah hah hah

    Imagine a Hillary Clinton presidency! Silver lining for this group...2/3s of you will not see her complete the first term...rapture? Dementia?
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    AmazedOne1 Evil Lib
    5 minutes ago
    I've reported this troll to C4P's abuse email, so hopefully it'll be gone soon.
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    Evil Lib AmazedOne1
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    You are amazing!!!

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    1. Anonymous1:06 PM

      funny stuff. Tx for sharing

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    2. Anonymous1:32 PM

      "VG you still alive. Well STDs take time".
      Cracked me up!

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    3. Anonymous1:55 PM

      BEAUTIFUL !!!
      WELL DONE !!

      HAHAHAHA

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    4. krbmjb052:55 PM

      Thank you for posting this. First time I smiled/giggled all day (not having a good one, unfortunately!).

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    5. Guilty...
      It was nice to vent:-)

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    6. Anonymous3:14 PM

      Good for you! I've been part of their "circle" for about 4 years now, deep undercover, never inciting them too much but making them question their alliances every now and then. You can probably guess which one I am but I'm never telling!

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    7. Anonymous3:18 PM

      i liked the texas computer jockey tough guy, guy..

      LMAO !!

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    8. Anonymous3:48 PM

      Mike, I posted the exchange. I enjoyed watching it play out, just wish I had capture the hoverround comment! Bravo!

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    9. Anonymous3:49 PM

      I suspect you're the Amazed one. I am amazed you haven't yet gone insane like the rest in that asylum.

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    10. Anonymous3:50 PM

      Krbmjb05, I hope you have a good evening! XO!

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    11. Anonymous3:54 PM

      3:14, I, too am a member of the cast. I am a total suck up, as I was booted in the past. I just enjoy 'standing with Sarah' and elevating her to the left hand of god status!

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    12. Anonymous3:57 PM

      3:18,, I didn't copy evil liberal's response, but it involved the macho Texan attacking Lib's behind and a low battery hoverround! Too funny!

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    13. LOL @ Mike D!

      Bravo my good man! Half dead VirginiaHesNoGentleman is probably taking a couple of hits off his oxygen tank after you dropped dime on his slow death by syphilis secret! ROFLMAO!

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    14. Anonymous4:07 PM

      3:14 would not be amazedone1. She is authentic. I am thinking geraldgoff (sp) or renalin or colint. They seem to be at odds with the group the most. Or tbo, since she posted a statement there days after the exact statement was posted here.

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    15. Suzy Q4:16 PM

      It sounded like the "voice" of our dear GINA M. Where is she anyway? I sure do miss her posts. Hated her "avatar/picture" of Rebecca Mansour but her sense of humor was priceless.

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    16. Anonymous4:38 PM

      Mike D was playing the part of evil liberal today. Bravo, Mike, bravo!

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    17. Thank you all for your comments and praise. To be recognized by Gina M...it's humbling, I can only see myself as "Padawan."

      I enjoy frigging w/ them. I despise SP and anything connected with her...a wonk eyed mattress back with delusions of public access cable grandeur by stinking up a small town's council meetings...and it mutated in to a screaming case of herpes on the republic, we should take every opportunity to torture anyone associated with her.

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    18. *GinaM waves at SuzyQ*

      I'm still here just so dang busy...patiently waiting for the day that Baldy announces that she ain't running for shit!

      Then I'll be hanging out all day at the Dayroom (Open Thread)behind a potted giggling my ass off at the screaming and crying from the nuts....according to one of those fools Baldy has until June to "declare"

      Tick tock Baldster...tick tock!
      BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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    19. Anonymous5:42 PM

      Hey GinaM!!

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  8. Anonymous12:34 PM

    Do whatever it takes! This hoax has gone on far too long and too many people have been harmed by it. The world must know the true extent of the hoax and the consequences it has wrought.

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  9. Anonymous12:38 PM

    Lol. Of course you have talked yourself down the endless rabbit hole again. Not that you were ever really serious about quitting it.

    You will likely never find the definitive truth you are looking for, and even if you did, besides the echo chamber here and a couple other places- this is all history buddy. You can talk in circles with yourself and pretend this event from two election cycles ago will have some impact on the repubs going forward, but the realty is, it means nothing at this point.

    So to sum it up, you are chasing nothing, but you are helping to fuel the controversial Palin reality star persona vehicle.

    While it would be great to get the conclusion to this mystery after all these years, the endless mean girl blogging, including the 'kids', that is akin to cheap gossip, innuendo, and imagination, does you no favors with credibility.

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      Credibility? Really?!

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    2. Anonymous1:27 PM

      lol 12:38

      You have a way with words.

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    3. Anonymous1:30 PM

      @12:39

      But without this blog, where would you go to dish out your superior lecturing? And, if what you find here is akin to cheap gossip, why are you reading the blog? Someone forcing you to read it?

      The "fuel the controversial Palin reality star persona vehicle" is laughable. The only fuel on IM is for truth.

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    4. Anonymous1:32 PM

      12:38 PM Is that you, Sarah/RAM?

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    5. Anonymous2:24 PM

      chuck_tard jr must be bored today to be posting on IM...

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    6. Anonymous2:26 PM

      Or is it Steve Schmidt 1:32"
      Any of them, all of them need tot ell themselves this so they can sleep at night.

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    7. Anonymous3:04 PM

      Well, 12:38, the truth does means something. Every lier eventually gets caught. Even the Princess.
      RN_TT

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    8. Anonymous3:19 PM

      Whatever, bitch lied about having a baby after being sterilized after Piper. Her daughter is a special needs girl with zero impulse control and fucked any boy who put his dick in her vicinity and then disappeared for 5 months with "mono" before the special little Trigger kid was born. The special daughter was knocked up again when dancing with the stars. Dollars to donuts the special needs daughter birthed the DS kid, or maybe Todd's sister and Bristol's "ruffles baby" FAS kid died. Who knows, but they all lied and they are all complicit in telling a big giant LIE to anyone who would listen and the McCain campaign knew all the truth and pushed it under the rug, along with Sarah Palin's mental problems that would prevent her from ever holding a national office.

      Why do you think she's never run for ANYTHING else after the VP nod? If her medical record are ever made public we will find out that she is Bi-polar and the she was sterilized after Piper. Palin can't run for anything because no one would protect her like McCain did.

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    9. Anonymous3:57 PM

      Historians go back centuries to find out what really happened.
      Journalists do the same, on a shorter time frame.
      If the nation was lied to and bamboozled by an unqualified psychopath who wanted to grab the brass ring, that will be news now, next year, and on into the next century. Sooner or later, the truth of how a nincompoop such as Palin got where she got will be the subject of articles and books.
      Serious, somber, responsible people want to know how broken our system was, and why, so we can correct it.
      The Trig story is just the most egregious of Palin's lies. But it will be the one that will bring her down.

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    10. Anonymous4:38 PM

      3:57.........

      Get this thru your moronic thick head....

      Palin was big enough for 'current' entertainment value.

      Palin will never be big enough for history and historians.

      She is hardly the first, and will not be the last, terribly unqualified candidate for higher office.

      "...Serious, somber, responsible people want to know how broken our system was..."HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHA you're an idiot.

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    11. Anonymous5:51 PM

      @ 12:38 PM
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      Well if it is so boring for you, why are you posting, a little worried?

      Also too if it is such a waste of time and means nothing, then why doesn't Sarah come out with the truth?

      She is so wonderful, always the victim and just dying to tell American about how smart she is and hoaxed a whole country. Now that she has to beg for money and the lamestream media can't be bothered to give her the time of day, why doesn't she come out with her smug face and go ha ha I pulled one over on America, since it means nothing.

      Also too too while she is informing us how stupid we all were and what a genius she is, Sarah can also tell us the real reason she quit.

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  10. Wherever little Trig came from, the idea that Palin set out to purposely acquire a DS baby "for pro-life credibility"has never made sense to me.

    She is a lazy shit-for-brains and already had plenty of pro-life credibility. Mother of 4, last child born in her late 30s following 2 miscarriages (making it her 6 pregnancy).

    All she had to do was blather on endlessly about her high-risk/advanced maternal age pregnancy with Piper and go on and on about how "they" wanted her to have a test for DS and abort if it was positive, but she already looooved the little larva so, just all her other gifts from Gawd and that is why she allowed Piper to be featured in a right-to-life poster in Alaska, blah blah blah.

    She already *had* all the pro-life credibility she needed. She already had a relatively large number of children for a woman in her position. She already had the high-risk pregnancy that she nobly chose to carry to term. She is lazy. She didn't need to do more than yak yak yak. Why would she do more than that?

    What i *can* easily imagine is that *someone* was pregnant and for whatever reason, that pregnancy could very likely prove to be scandalous and embarrassing due to the persons involved, right at a critical point, just when she was being wooed as a potential vp candidate.

    Todd? Bristol? Willow? Even other family members just close enough that there was justified concern by the powers-that-be that judgmental types in the party's base would be offended by the whole family? This could lead to a decision not to risk it?

    It would be very like Palin to decide, with a lot of screaming and tantrum-throwing, that someone else's mistake was NOT going to screw things up for Palin, nosirree, and that by God, that baby would be hers, she would be "pregnant" and that baby would be turned over to her, and that person better not do anything else so fucking stupid as to screw up Palin's chance to soon be in the White House.

    Just my opinion. I know I could be completely wrong. I will be thrilled to find out I am wrong if it means the truth (whatever it is) is finally exposed.

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    1. Anonymous1:30 PM

      Once again, the Palin Family photo posted on November 14, 2007 shows Todd, Willow, Sarah, Piper, and a PREGNANT Bristol. Track was not present, probably in Michigan for Rehab. Tripp was born 5 months later. Trig was the 'puppy' that was ready while Sarah and Todd were in Texas. Trig was
      acquired by Sarah Palin, she did not give birth to Trig. Bristol stuffed her bra for the 2008 RNC, she was not pregnant. That is why Tripp looks older than he is supposed to look. Tripp was born in April, 2008. Sarah Palin SEALED all of their family records to cover up the Tripp birth date.

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    2. Anonymous1:49 PM

      I assumed that Sarah was covering for a unwed pregnant teen Bristol. I always believed the part of Levi's story when he said that Sarah kept nagging him and Bristol to let her adopt their baby. That story made no sense if Sarah had just given birth to Trig, a child with special needs. Two babies and try to get the VP nomination? No way!

      What does make sense is for the mother to cover for her pregnant teen aged daughter. It's been done before, for examle, the singer, Bobby Darin's mother turned out to be his older sister. The woman who called herself his mother was really his grandmother. Both Sally and Sarah HAD to get married, meaning that it was considered shameful to have a baby without being married. And Sarah had been playing to the religious right.

      Sarah's emails revealed that long before Bristol was put on the convention stage as an unwed pregnant teen, there were rumors flying around Alaska that Bristol was pregnant. Sarah's emails told her people to get out ahead of that story. Sarah herself suspected that Bristol was pregnant during the summer of 2007. As punishment, she took away Bristol's cell phone for a few days. A good lesson in birth control LOL.

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    3. Anonymous1:56 PM

      Could the baby be Todd's sisters child? Druggies often give birth to DS babies.

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    4. Anonymous2:41 PM

      I'm OK with this except I think her issue was her standing in AK, not as a VP nominee. Remember that in Game Change she was all about knowing her popularity numbers in AK, making Steve Schmidt spend thousands on polling there. Sure, an out of wedlock pregnancy is a common experience in AK and Wasilly, but this was more than an out of wedlock pregnancy. More than Palin ever wanted known about her and her clan, more than she could handle being judged on.

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    5. Anonymous3:02 PM

      Nefer that still makes a lot of sense. She did already have the cred. Covering for Bristle and throwing a tantrum(s), poorly planning the hoax....pure Palin.

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    6. Anonymous3:08 PM

      2:41
      A FAS baby would be more than she could get a handle on the judgement. Was an FAS baby swapped out for a DS? And Bristle can bear how Tri-G is treated only because he is not her real baby. She gave up the FAS baby? A Tri-G was adopted? Maye the Tri-G was Toad's??Maybe there are all sorts of layers to this oinion skin that cumulatively Sarah had a hissy fit and stuffed the seat cushion in her panties for it to come out in her FAVOR.

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    7. Anonymous3:42 PM

      Good job as always, Nefer.

      A pregnant daughter wouldn't be a big deal to the type who favor Palin but they'd have a harder time with a straying hubby with an oopsie.

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    8. abbafan4:27 PM

      Nefer - I have been a long time commenter here from the idiot's first screech in Minneapolis in '08. I have always respected your concise and well-versed posts, as well as most members of the IM community. Once again, spot-on as usual! I must confess, at times some of my responses regarding $arah and her lazy lay-about slackers may come across as crass and perhaps too blunt. The reason for that is, there was a woman who befriended my mother for many years while I was growing up. She exhibited the same sociopathic, narcissistic, and controlling character traits as the imbecile does. She took advantage of my mother's generosity for many years, while demeaning us siblings in the process. After my mother passed away many years ago, all of us kids approached her and told her in no uncertain terms what we thought of her, and where to go. She so reminded me of $arah; she loved playing the "victim" card so well, and her husband was more of a yes-man and purse carrier, just like the Pimp Toad. Anyways, this woman is still alive, albeit she has no friends left, since she alienated everyone she knew through her cruel intentions. I draw the same parallel with $arah - she won't keel over anytime soon. I feel she is destined to live out her remaining years suffering in guilt and misery, knowing that everyone she burned and slighted are still carrying on without her. That fact alone will fry her ass right to the end of her days!

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    9. Suzy Q4:37 PM

      Was it a square seat cushion that she stuffed in her panties, 3:08? Cuz I saw a square pillow in that picture of her coming out of the building wearing the gray outfit.

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  11. Anonymous12:43 PM

    Please don't give up! You have come so far, Gryphen.

    Your work on this blog and particularly this story is going to be well rewarded. You are so close.

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  12. Anonymous12:45 PM

    Gryphen, a huge motivator for wanting AIP Palin destroyed comes because of her tea party/earthquake cult members rhetoric. This was posted by the anti-American, traitorous VG, on c4p this morning:
    "I have had to ask myself IF I would serve in the military of today. The answer is yes, I would. But I would add one more duty to my service that doesn't normally come with the job.
    I would do everything in my power to undermine and sink the careers of the scum who would put politics ABOVE the well being of the military, regardless of their rank or status. They have betrayed their Oath to the Constitution, AND to the men and women they lead."

    VG is an ex-Navy man. My son is a Navy man and it sickens me that this low-life POS served in the same branch of the US military as my son does. Disgusting!
    Not only does AIP Palin need to be ruined, but her fan club needs to be destroyed with her. Get her, Gryphen!

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    1. On more than one occasion, that vile Virginia Gentleman has repeated that EVERY officer in the armed forces should refuse to serve under our Commander in Chief, President Obama!

      He is one of the most hateful personae I've encountered on the internet.

      Although I did laugh when he threatened to send his mythical "body guard" of Special Forces and Seals to come after me IRL when I was daring to "down vote" his posts!

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    2. Anonymous1:38 PM

      Oh, the Palin cult will be destroyed alright. Just wait until it finally dawns on them that she isn't running. That mean ugly old fart VG and the rest of her vile fans will get what's coming to them. I can hardly wait.

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    3. Anonymous1:58 PM

      that fuk_tard VG can't die soon enough ..


      the end..

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    4. Anonymous3:49 PM

      What he promotes is treason, and a hanging offense.

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    5. Forgot to add: Virginia Gentleman said any officer who doesn't resign his commission and continues to serve under President Obama is a coward.

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    6. Anonymous4:16 PM

      VG is an old man, of poor health, who could care less if the United States government was overthrown and all hell breaks loose. He won't be called to fight, nor will he suffer the consequences of a coup or it's aftermath. He would burn his house down on his death bed, the selfish old bastard. What a vile excuse for a Christian.

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    7. Anonymous4:35 PM

      Here are a few more of the tea party conservative posts from this evening at c4p:

      barracuda43 chzn2bfree
      4 hours ago
      On the martial law front. I know to many military men. They will turn their weapons on Obama not Americans.
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      chzn2bfree barracuda43
      2 hours ago
      So very good to know !!!!
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      PalinRepublican barracuda43
      3 hours ago
      That's what I told my husband.
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      chzn2bfree PalinRepublican
      2 hours ago
      Did he agree?
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      PalinRepublican chzn2bfree
      an hour ago
      He wasn't sure. He thinks because Obama is their CIC, that they have to listen to him. I said most of the military probably despises him and would turn their back on his orders. At least I hope they would.

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  13. Anonymous12:52 PM

    OT This photo appears to be someone holding a baby while dressed in that basic black costume and wearing a Sarah Palin Halloween mask.

    Trick or Treat!!!
    RJ in BBistan

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  14. Anonymous12:59 PM

    Sarah Paln's story about Trig's arrival never made sense. There are so many holes in every part of her narrative. Someone called MatSu, the place where Sarah first said that Trig was born. The person said that she was pregnant and expecting a baby with special needs. She was afraid of going into labor prematurely and she asked MatSu how they would handle that.

    MatSu said that they could not deliver a premature special needs baby. If there was time, they would transfer the expectant mother to Anchorage, about an hour away, by ambulance. MatSu admitted that they were unprepared to deliver twins. HIPPA prevents anyone working there (or who worked there) from talking about what went on when Sarah welcomed Trig to her on April 18, but she did not give birth to him. He may have been delivered through the back door from some place where he had been recovering from a premature birth.

    In Sarah's story, she arrived at MatSu before midnight and had to be induced, to "give birth" around 6 AM the next day. That means that MatSu had plenty of time to send Sarah back to Anchorage where she had just arrived by plane and had already passed up the better equipped hospital in Anchorage. 6 hours, they would have sent Sarah to Anchorage.

    6 AM is a good time to hand over a baby and assemble people for photos. That's usually the hour when the staff changes, so they are busy catching up on charts and patients. There are no visitors and the doctors haven't arrived. Nice and empty. No body there. For someone whose photo was in the paper on a daily basis, it's funny that there never was the traditional mom-in-her-hospital-gown photo, proudly holding the baby she just gave birth to. Trig was delivered all right, but he was already born. He just arrived through the back door of MatSu.

    I'm surprised that after all these years, no one has been able to collect DNA from Trig and Sarah. They must keep their cards and their people very close.

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    1. Anonymous2:02 PM

      but what about that squinty eyed incestuous old fuk chuck_tard sr having been in the mat-su delivery room and watched little trig squirt out of his crosseyed skank daughters vajayjay ?!?

      isn't that firebug/arsonist credible ?!?

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    2. Anonymous3:16 PM

      Yep. That's why Sarah said Bristol could do her skin care and Willow her har care. What is tested for drugs and DNA? Hair and skin often. A toothbrush would be ideal actually. Typing can be done from mouth mucous cells.

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  15. Anonymous1:06 PM

    Gryphen, you picked up a lot of new visitors at the time of the Palin Family Brawl and I am confident that many have remained as followers.

    For years I have checked IM several times a day. When you reported on that infamous party-crashing clan last Fall, your live feed info was literally spinning.

    IMO, a recap of Sarah's "pregnancy" with Trig would be very useful for new readers and a great review for us older followers.

    In hindsight, with the passage of seven years since the 2008 GOP convention, it would also be interesting to speculate exactly how Sarah was hand-picked to be McCain's running mate. She wasn't exactly on everyone's radar and she was totally unqualified. Yes, she made herself more attractive to the GOP by faking a pregnancy with a DS child, but SOMEONE made her selection mandatory. I'd like to know who is really that powerful, behind the scenes.

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    1. Anonymous1:16 PM

      Lowell Bud Paxson was instrumental in Palin's selection. He was the owner of Home shopping network and an Evangelical leader. McCain traveled with Paxson's lobbyist employee(Vicki Iseman) on Paxson's private jet several times and was a little too involved with her. Paxson was a big Donor to the Bush Family, and to McCain's campaign. Sarah Palin used Paxson's name and her TTORNEY'S NAME(Van Flein) in Trig's full name as a thank you for the running mate selection.

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    2. Anonymous1:21 PM

      There is a link to IM in the comments.
      Another score for Gryph!

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    3. Anonymous1:25 PM

      I can tell you who was behind the Palin pick--Bud Paxson. Bud's lobbyist, Vicky Iseman, was hanging around McCain so much that even McCain's people were getting spooked by the appearance of an affair. Personally, I think Paxson set the old HornDog up & this was part of the blackmail.

      Wasn't much Cindy could say because she was having her own flings back in Phoenix (she hates DC). Kinda fun to think of Ol' Johnny the bully being bullied himself.

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/20/vicki-iseman-who-is-mccai_n_87692.html

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    4. Now THAT makes sense -- using Vicky (whether or not was an affair) as blackmail to get SP picked. I've always wondered why McCain still won't say anything bad about her.

      So many people, so many secrets and SP exploits them all. Who will talk? Who will risk exposure?
      Somebody on their death bed?

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    5. Anonymous3:18 PM

      Yeah - take down the post after this one and keep this up a while please??

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  16. Anonymous1:08 PM

    Yes, yes, yes!!!

    YeeeeeeHaaaawwwwwwww!!

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  17. Anonymous1:14 PM

    I want to know what happened to the little boy with the deformed ears that was named Ruffles by the public.

    Sarah is he still alive?

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    1. That's not a mystery.

      I attached a link that explains it.

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    2. Otto Katz3:42 PM

      Where? I'm very dense. Where is the link?

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    3. Anonymous4:15 PM

      Otto, it's in this paragraph above.


      There are also a few quotes from Professor Scharlott, mostly a refutation of the two Trig's theory that many of you may remember he did not exactly agree with me on. (Actually I think I proved my point with this post, but let's not open old wounds.)

      Here is direct link:

      http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2012/06/return-of-ruffled-ear-version-of-trig.html

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  18. Anonymous1:25 PM

    People need vindication, it's that simple. When a woman hoaxes a birth and pretends her child is hers, and smears anyone who dares challenge her on it, and who uses her pro-life creds to write books, earn huge speaking fees, tell christian women groups how virtuous and pro-life she is, and makes money and a career off it, people want her to stop.

    Stop faking this. Stop making money off of it and lying to people, taking their money. Stop hurting her family with this lie, and stop putting those who schemed with her in constant fear of being exposed. Stop hiding the real parents, and stop burning down church adoption records and putting lives at risk. Stop pretending that Trig is fully and biologically hers, and then sending him off to a nanny to raise him, having used this baby/child for a political feat. Stop keeping Trig from getting the best care and allowing him to join the world of the living. Stop the pretenses and lies and cheating those who she brainwashed, and exploited and used. It's enough. She has to be stopped.

    Interesting how the far right christian wing feel that liberals and the Obama Administration are bringing on God's wrath because of abortion, homosexuality and so on. What's shocking is that they don't think that God might bring on his wrath because of the lying and cheating to the American public, like politicians who say they know God, yet lie and use a defenseless down syndrome baby for their ill-gotten gains, who say they serve and love God, yet who serve Satan and mammon for the love of power and money and use their family to flaunt on the front pages of ET, TMZ, People Magazine, Radar On-Line, etc., who whine and complain about their relationship problems, while the world is going to crap in a handbasket.

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    1. Anonymous1:45 PM

      Hear Hear!

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    2. Anonymous3:57 PM

      Yep! Preach it darling.

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    3. Anonymous4:27 PM

      Amen!
      Sing it sista!!

      Can I have an amen!!

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    4. Anonymous5:10 PM

      sooooooo true!

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  19. Anonymous1:39 PM

    I am not a bit surprised but there is something I don't understand and really, really hope it can be explained to me.
    If the baby is Bristol's what is the time frame? How could she have delivered Trig? Tripp? in april but be so far along again at the Repug convention.
    And, who is thought to be the father?
    thank you.

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    1. Anonymous2:23 PM

      He could have been born earlier than the reported April date. And She could have been not as far along as reported at the RNC.

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    2. Many of us think that it is possible Bristol was not pregnant at the 2008 convention.

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    3. Anonymous4:42 PM

      And wasn't there video of her RUNNING across an icy parking lot after the election and when supposedly 8 months pregnant?

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    4. Bristol had a whole lotta padding going on the the Convention.

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    5. Anonymous5:44 PM

      G,
      Awhile back, didn't you say that Tri-g was absolutely NOT Barstools child?
      VernD

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    6. Anonymous6:01 PM

      Look at the photo of the McCains greeting the Palins on the tarmac. Bristol has on a pencil skirt with a very defined waist and bustline, nothing like the stuffed Bristol presented a day later or so at the convention.

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  20. Anonymous1:43 PM

    Gryphen -- the baby gate story is more than just the fake birth. It is the complicity and laziness of MSM in covering this up. We have serious issues with the media now and this could be shocking enough to wake people up WHEN it comes out. Thanks for all you do.

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    1. Anonymous1:50 PM

      Excellent point @1:43

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    2. The journalists didn't ask SP about it because they didn't want to lose access to her. She hot stuff back then & bringing in viewers to TV channels. Their jobs were on the line.

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    3. Anonymous3:31 PM

      The media did not do its job because they didn't want to appear to attack an innocent child. Sarah was very good at getting the media to back off. "What do I have to do, show you my stretch marks?" They backed off and stretch marks wouldn't have proved anything. In the end, I do want to know the true story about Trig. But, I am glad that Sarah lost because people could see how totally unqualified she was-- instead of losing because of a tabloid story. Sarah sank her own ship the moment she opened her mount. She continues to prove how stupid she is every time she gives another speech. Fortunately, it looks as if the GOP has sidelined her without the Trig Truth Story being told. And, yes, I still want to know who gave birth to him and how he came to become Sarah and Todd's "son."

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    4. Suzy Q4:57 PM

      Just Google search: David Weigle Sarah Palin and theTrig birth. You'll get lots of articles from the time that tells how the media did NOT do their jobs. Lazy "journalists."

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  21. BlueDragon2:01 PM

    Gryphen - I sincerely hope you feel refreshed and appreciated, you are in a rather unique position and should certainly continue your quest for the truth. I hope you do so.

    I have been following you from the beginning, I am a Certified Nurse-Midwife and when I first heard the story of the Wild Ride - I said to myself that story was a whole lot of bullshit.
    Serious bullshit. Then I saw more about the pregnancy story - more bullshit. It seemed like Sarah knew just enough about the process to fool most people, especially lay people, but from the perspective of an actual OB provider - as I have been for 30 years - then I can confidently tell you that there are so many holes in this story there is no way that this woman was not pregnant with that baby and I believe she has perpetrated a huge hoax on the American public and so far, anyway, gotten away with it! I would really love to see her answer for it especially in light of the seeming neglect that she has shown this child.
    12:59 made some good points about the possible logisitics of what happened, but I would correct one thing: unless Sarah was a registered patient of the hospital under the care of a doctor, then HIPAA regulations do NOT apply here. If she was in the building and was a private citizen, not admitted by a doctor (which was not possible if you read the time sheets from the Anchorage hospital) then she has NO rights to privacy under the HIPAA regs. So if someone has been reading here and has been under the impression that what happened is protected, then I hope they consult a lawyer for confirmation, but just being on hospital property doesn't protect you. You must have been receiving medical care - those would be the records that are protected information.

    Carry on, Gryph!

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    1. "she has NO rights to privacy under the HIPAA regs"
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      This is very true, but possibly someone else connected with the baby did have HIPPA rights, in which case, the hospital will likely not make any comment whatsoever, if there were a chance it could lead to an actual patient's privacy rights being breached.

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    2. Thank you, BlueDragon.

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    3. Anonymous4:17 PM

      It's HIIPA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A medical professional should know this.

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    4. Anonymous4:32 PM

      Nefer
      But saying Sarah did not birth A child at natsu on 4/18 as she states would in no way identify Tri- G 's real mither or ANY patient at MatSu. That is plenty yo get the ball rolling.

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    5. Anonymous5:01 PM

      4:17 Wrong, it's HIPAA

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    6. Anonymous5:30 PM

      4:17 : WRONG!!! It *IS* HIPAA! Stands for Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act.

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  22. Anonymous2:03 PM

    Doing my happy dance.:)

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  23. Anonymous2:07 PM

    How about a "go fund me" account to establish a reward for proof that Sarah didn't give birth to Trig?

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    1. Anonymous2:34 PM

      I don't think you need to establish a reward ... what needs to happen is IMers should be posting this link
      to as many sites as they can that they visit on a daily basis. Spread the news!

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  24. Anonymous2:09 PM

    Kinko's House and C&L fell into the 'Sarah-as-grandma' trap, a theory which provides a sob story cover for Sarah and one that successfully shamed many journalists away from the hoax (2008 Journolist emails).

    Sarah lied about giving birth to Trig. That's the hoax and, I think, all that needs to be exposed for now. The '18-days' graphic says it all. Apparently, journalists want more and I hope Gryphen's the one to find the evidence that can't be ignored.

    And, FWIW, there are photos of Bristol in late 2007 (NY/MTV and Hawaii) and Feb 2008 (Fairbanks luncheon). They show Bristol without a protruding, obviously pregnant belly, putting her in the same position as Sarah as possible birth mother.

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    1. Anonymous2:37 PM

      Without a protruding belly? I saw the Nov. 14, 2007 photo and Bristol was definitely pregnant.

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    2. Anonymous3:39 PM

      2:37 PM - Enlarge the Nov. '07 photo and look at the folds in Bristol's empire-waist, smocked dress. There is no protruding belly.

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    3. Anonymous4:19 PM

      3:39 PM There is a PREGNANT belly.

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    4. Anonymous4:36 PM

      Bristol looked pretty pregnant in the NY video of some show with JLo... Bristol was in audience front row. Wearing VERY unteenage like clothes. Skirt and Maternity top.

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    5. Anonymous4:58 PM

      4:36 PM - There's also a point in the MTV video with Bristol sitting down...with no protruding belly. You may not have seen that screen shot because it didn't fit the meme. Empire waist tops were 'in' as you can see by other girls wearing similar shirts.

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    6. Anonymous5:18 PM

      It's HIPAA and it is over-ridable in cases of fraud or if national security is at risk. Palin could be exposed on either count. She faked a pregnancy while governor. Her secret was enabled by the GOP. That's campaign fraud and a national security risk. I M O

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  25. Anonymous2:10 PM

    In 94 more years, Trig's birth certificate will become a public record.

    I will be waiting in line to get a copy.

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    1. Anonymous3:24 PM

      I would bet any court in this land could get them opened if it was necessary to prove fraud.

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  26. Anonymous2:13 PM

    It's not even about the fact that Trig is the biological child or not. The public isn't concerned about that fact. What is concerning to the public is that a VP candidate would find it necessary to LIE about it. What kind of individual, VP candidate would gain from lying about it?

    We know that the pro-life movements via the right-wing family values groups and christian coalition groups were behind Palin's selection because she LIED about choosing not to abort Trig.

    Either McCain and these groups thought she was to be trusted and didn't know she was lying, or they KNEW she was lying and conspired to help her with the hoax. Either way, the LIE is the shocker. Lying to anti-abortionists and christians about this woman to get into power. Any other lie would be less shocking, for instance, lying about their past criminal behaviors or such, but to impose this lie on an innocent defenseless child is the worst of all possible crimes. A baby with a challenging condition, is who they used. And it doesn't matter even if that baby didn't suffer any harmful consequences, it's the fact that a baby was used nevertheless.

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    1. Anonymous2:33 PM

      "We know that the pro-life movements via the right-wing family values groups and christian coalition groups were behind Palin's selection."

      We know these groups enthusiastically supported Sarah's selection as VP candidate because of the Trig story. We don't know they were behind her selection.

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    2. Anonymous2:39 PM

      But I completely agree with your points that the lie was atrocious for a VP candidate and more so because the lie was used and imposed on a defenseless baby.

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    3. I think you make some excellent points. I would also say that the lie might not even be a problem, if she had kept her damn narcissistic trap shut. "Please, we would like to keep the family as off-limits as possible, keep their lives as normal as possible during this campaign", etc. Finding out later that she covered up a lie about Bristol being pregnant would still have been forgivable and understandable; a situation that could, and has, happened to many.

      What makes it unforgivably dishonest as how Palin profited off it. She wrapped herself in the flag of noble martyr mother fighting off the horrible liberals demanding that she abort her gift from God, blah, blah, blah. She reveled in it, she bragged about it. She profited from it. In other words, she had no qualms about lying if it was to her benefit. In fact, she even tossed her daughter out in stage for public humiliation.

      It was all about Sarah. It was not about protecting an innocent adolescent from the condemnation that would follow the exposure of an out-of-wedlock baby. It was about Sarah profiting from a sad situation and irresponsibly harming anyone who got in the way of her narrative.

      That and the media's lazy and inexcusably squeamish attitude are what make the whole thing so dreadful. Indeed, it has reached a point where I think the biggest story will be the outing of our corporate, click-bait media, as someone above mentioned.

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    4. Anonymous5:40 PM

      Good point, Nefer, that Palin didn't lie to protect Bristol from the condemnation of getting pregnant before marriage because Palin turned around and outed Bristol's un-wed status on the RNC stage. All the more proof that Palin "got" Trig for her own purposes...not to protect her teenage daughter.

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    5. Anonymous5:40 PM

      The half term half wit's obvious lack of interest in Trig - $he didn't even acknowledge his birthday- and the fact that $he has never become active as a DS spokesperson or donated a dime to any DS organizations or causes, says loads about how $he really feels. Her neglected little prop is becoming more of an inconvenient truth. Go Gryph!!!!

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  27. Anonymous2:16 PM

    We need Anonymous to break into Alaska records and post a copy of Trig's birth certificate.

    Or they can break into Matsu billing records.

    Either way, Sarah's scam would be exposed.

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  28. Anonymous2:34 PM

    "Six Years On: Why The Palin Birth Hoax Story Still Shouldn't Go Away"

    Rumors, innuendo and inconclusive photographs do not a true story make, but the fact of the matter is that six-plus years after the birth of Trig Paxson Van Palin, there is no proof that Sarah Palin is his biological mother and evidence he may be her grandson.

    Read more at
    http://kikoshouse.blogspot.com/2014/05/five-years-on-why-sarah-palin-birth.html?m=1

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    1. Suzy Q5:24 PM

      I take it you didn't read what Gryphen wrote about this post?

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  29. Anonymous2:34 PM

    All of the mysterious fires(Dar Miller/Church) should be investigated. Creepy Chuck Heath Sr. is a prime candidate for a suspect.

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    1. Anonymous3:21 PM

      and his fat little namesake, chuck_tard jr ..

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    2. Anonymous5:28 PM

      How do you contact "Anonymous", the avengers of wrongdoing and evil?

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  30. Anonymous2:35 PM

    Good luck with that... You will never prove it though.

    You are kinda like the C4Pers hanging on to your obsession that will never come to fruition.

    All tracks have been covered, there is no such thing as Karma and she has gotten away with her lie, and she will continue to, because there is nothing that you will ever find that will prove it.

    All evidence that would prove it has been destroyed, and those who know will go to their graves with the knowledge.

    The truth will never be allowed to come out, Sarah cannot give up her vacation money, graciously donated by her loyal following, as they sacrifice their own comforts so Sarah can stay at the Disneyland Resort and fly by private jet.

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    1. Anonymous4:24 PM

      DNA evidence does not end at the grave. See the recent confirmation of Richard III's bones.

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    2. Anonymous4:41 PM

      A Palin supporter, 2:35 PM?

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    3. Anonymous4:50 PM

      I think 2:35 PM is just being realistic, 4:41 PM.

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    4. Anonymous5:00 PM

      424 speaking of the British..and DNA...

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    5. Anonymous5:29 PM

      You may be right but what if you're not? Then what?

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    6. Anonymous5:48 PM

      So whats with the negative waves Moriarity?

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  31. Anonymous2:40 PM

    O/T (sort of) - given what we have seen of this depraved individual, I see a ghoul in the lead-in photo. Just look at that monstrous narcissist mugging for the camera. It's disturbing.

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  32. FrostyAK2:40 PM

    This will not be solved until McShame and all the other R politicos/pundits/hangers-on involved are dead. In the meantime, TriG is neglected.

    I wish it was important enough for Anonymous to get involved... then we would have the answers, quickly.

    As TriG might say, "Uncover the BULLSHIT, now!"

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  33. Anonymous2:44 PM

    I have always wondered about the medical insurance/ maternity leave part of this hoax and think the fact that Sarah returned to work so quickly is her way to get around that. I know that adopted babies are covered, but if no birth occurred by the insured, there could be no insurance claim to that fact and without some type of documentation about the adoption or actual birth, there could be no maternity leave. In my opinion, that is why she returned to work so quickly. I think the insurance company would have access to all medical info so Sarah would be afraid they could unravel this mess. Just my opinion. There was mention in at least one of the books written about her (Dunne, McGuiness etc) that mentioned that months after Trig's birth, the state's insurance company was still after information to enroll him as a family member and the family was not forth coming.

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  34. Anonymous2:55 PM

    Friday, May 29, 2009

    Bristol Palin: Homeschooler?

    There's more paragraphs before this part.
    Exact details concerning the whereabouts of Bristol Palin, however, have been harder to pin down. In particular, Bristol’s attendance during the 2007-08 school year has been questioned on this site and on others. This school year, of course, is the focus of our interest. Why?

    1. Someone had to be pregnant with Trig Palin during most of what would have been the 2007 - 2008 school year. If it were not Sarah Palin, it had to be someone else. Period.
    2. Photographs of Bristol Palin taken in September of 2007 when compared to June of 2007 show physical changes which are consistent with pregnancy. Does this prove she WAS pregnant? No. Does it suggest that she could have been? Yes.
    3. "Something" appears to have happened in Bristol Palin's life during the summer of 2007. She went from being openly in school in the spring of 2007, attending First Family events (albeit reluctantly), posting frequently on social networking sites, working at a coffee shop in early summer of that year, to... as far as we can tell... dropping almost totally out of sight by early fall. She was photographed in Juneau in mid September 2007, then no other photograph of her exists until late April of 2008. ONE family photograph (containing Bristol) released by the Palin family to the media of "Christmas 2007" has been shown to actually have been taken Christmas 2006.
    4. Rumors that Bristol Palin WAS pregnant were circulating in Alaska as early as December of 2007, long before Trig was allegedly born in April of 2008. 

    So obviously Bristol's school attendance during the fall of 2007 is of considerable interest to those of us who are trying to get solid answers to this mystery. Imagine our surprise, then, when out of the blue two days ago comes a totally new, previously unheard of revelation from Levi Johnston to GQ Magazine: he and Bristol, at some point during this 2007 - 2008 school year, homeschooled TOGETHER at the Palin home. 

    My initial response: Huh? 


    Continued on comment 2

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  35. Anonymous2:57 PM

    Comment 2 continued from Comment 1

    Her attendance during that year at both Wasilla and Anchorage West has been extensively questioned based on conflicting reports, and spotty information. Of course, neither school will (or should) give any information about a minor student "on the record." So what is known must be pieced together from media reports, which often contradict each other. Wasilla High Assistant Principal Mark Okeson told the mediain September that Bristol had transferred to Anchorage “midyear”, though he admitted: “I never heard the story why.” This certainly makes it sound as if she attended Wasilla until Christmas 2007 and then left. The National Enquirer reported that Sarah banished Bristol to live with her Aunt Heather in Anchorage after learning of her pregnancy. And Kyle Hopkins at the Anchorage Daily News, speaking with Heather Bruce shortly after Sarah’s nomination, confirmed from Bristol's own aunt that Bristol attended Anchorage West “in the spring." Bristol's attendance was also confirmed by aprivate source who has stated to me that Bristol, a friend of her child's, attended Anchorage West in January and February, leaving some time before mid-March 2008.

    Yet, the details surrounding the transition from Wasilla to Anchorage remain fuzzy. If Tripp was born at or close to full term in late December, 2008, Bristol could not have known about her pregnancy prior to either very late April or early May of 2008. Anchorage West's LAST day of school in 2008 was May 16th. So it is absurd to suggest that she lived with Heather Bruce AND went to school at any point during her pregnancy with Tripp. She didn't. If it is true that she lived with Heather Bruce while pregnant AND she attended school, it MUST refer to a prior pregnancy. 

    We do know from Sarah Palin’s interview with Alaska Magazine that, as of fall 2007, the plan at that point had been for Bristol to stay in Wasilla to finish out her high school career. If so, it would be understandable. Not many teenagers appreciate being taken away from friends, favorite teachers, and social events right in the middle of high school.

    See entire post at
    http://palindeception.blogspot.com/2009/05/bristol-palin-homeschooler.html?m=1

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  36. Anonymous2:59 PM

    keep this story up for a while = don't let it get buried.

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  37. Anonymous3:05 PM

    Ok. Lets roll. My guess is this child in question, is the Love child of Todd and Shailey Tripp, the hot and nasty flingy thingy. You know? while our sarah was out campaigning and being the nobody from wasilly trashin the white house with the old white man from loonville Arizona and talkin fake chit everywhere. And she is still at it!!!!. Crazy witch is way too much and it is way too late for her and her crazy doomsday witch rapture gig. The lies are absolutely transparent. And she is bad bad bad for the planet earth.

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      I think the parentage of trig without the ruffled ear is up for grabs. I would venture the trip l then adopta-Trig. the present trip followed. i think all thats missing are the correct dates. I thing ruffles was a preemie and probably spent time in the hospital. I would bet brissles was padded up on top like a bolster because she had milk And preg. correct me if I'm wrong by SHHOWING US TRIGS BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

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  38. Anonymous3:07 PM

    If Sarah Palin is Trig's birth mother, how come Sarah doesn’t show Trig any affection outside of her photo ops?

    We have seen that Todd is the one who is close to and loves Trig.
    We have seen that Sarah loves Sarah.

    Why is Todd closer to Trig?
    Is it because Todd is Trig's biological father?

    We can only guess that Sarah is not close to Trig because somebody else birthed Trig?

    We can only guess that this hoax that Sarah is Trig's birthed mother was created because Sarah needed to show America that she's not a failure as a wife and that her husband didn't go elsewhere for sex and affection.

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    1. Anonymous3:25 PM

      Sarah hasn't shown much motherly attention to her other kids-- otherwise Track, Bristol and Willow would not have needed to act out to get attention. Piper was kept close to keep her from talking. As for Todd caring for Trig, he might have been enjoying the idea of a male in the Palin family line, what with the gossip about Track. I wouldn't have expected Sarah to have been close or caring towards Trig. He was used as a prop. The way that she held him during the 2008 campaign looked like, "Don't you dare spit up on my nice clean jacket! Smile for the crowd!"

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    2. Anonymous4:01 PM

      Did Sarah wish her son Trig happy birthday the other day?

      Today is her oldest son's birthday. How do they celebrate?

      Sarah, Bristol and Willow all wished Piper a happy birthday.

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    3. Anonymous4:22 PM

      Agree, 3:25 PM. Body language tells the truth.

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    4. Anonymous5:40 PM

      Remember, Sarah also had a massage -I believe it was some time in March, and she categorically stated she was NOT pregnant at that time!

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    5. Anonymous6:02 PM

      Boy, and Shailey Tripp has paid dearly for that, hasn't she, 5:40 PM?

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  39. Anonymous3:08 PM

    I sometimes wonder if Trig was from Diana, Todd's sister, and she had such a drug problem that she couldn't take care of another infant. At any rate, anyone with two functioning eyes and a brain that can digest the entire story of Bristol disappearing with "mono" and Palin announcing a 7-month pregnancy when she never appeared pregnant, can realize that Trig came from somewhere other than Sarah's womb, especially since someone has verified that she had a tubal ligation after Piper. Trig would have been a miracle indeed.

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      trig looks native. precious little fellow.

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  40. Anonymous3:11 PM

    It's frustrating that she got away with so many lies and falsehoods (on soooo many levels) but thanks to the diligence of tenacious bloggers, certainly like IM has done, her game was nicked and she never quite got where she thought she could. Knowing that she knows we know gives me a small sense of satisfaction. Realizing that the story might break (and several others) must keep her smug little bony ass on edge 24/7. Good!

    Thank you, Gryphen, for your diligence and courage in persuing this as long as you have and as well as you have. I don't know how you keep the pace you do and admire you for oh so many reasons.

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  41. Anonymous3:23 PM

    “if Trig was sired by Lucifer and birthed from a hippopotamus it’s really none of our business.”

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    1. Anonymous3:42 PM

      3:23 PM It is our business when Sarah Palin USED him to gain votes from the right to lifers. If you don't like the discussions here, buzz off.

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    2. Anonymous4:48 PM

      It would be none of our business if Sarah was a private citizen. But she has written books with that sham story. She has given speeches with that sham story. She ran for Vice President on a lie.

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    3. Anonymous5:51 PM

      You didn't attribute that quote to anybody? Did you forget who said it?

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  42. Anonymous3:25 PM

    Seriously. A very easy thingy to do. DNA. every glass, tissue, lick, etc. Is proof, evidence, truth. DNA cannot be altered, denied or changed. Its doable folks,

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  43. Anonymous3:29 PM

    When was the last time someone actually saw Sarah?

    THIS IS TRACK (MENARD) PALIN'S BIRTHDAY? US4Palin and C$P always send Track birthcday greetings. As does Sarah, Nance and Bristol. Willow, also, too, loves posting her brother.

    Track Palin born: April 20, 1989 (age 26), Wasilla, AK

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      lol, how fitting that track was born on 4/20.

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  44. Anonymous3:41 PM

    Happy birthday Trig and Track.
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-EUlv8fo_NmU/UFDoTbZL9uI/AAAAAAAAAUU/rzecW_DP2nI/s640/Screen+shot+2012-09-12+at+3.48.35+PM.png

    .........
    http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/4dd13ab14bd7c82b0f1d0000/sarah-palin-pregnant.jpg

    Sarah Palin
    http://www-hollybaby-com.vimg.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/041411_new_sarah_palin110414182228.jpg

    Traxk
    https://malialitman.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/track-curtis-menard-jr-new-comparison.jpg

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  45. Anonymous3:43 PM

    This is about Tripp:

    Sarah Palin Kept Trying To Steal Levi & Bristol’s Baby

    ...Levi notes that Sarah was so worried about her stupid political career when Bristol got pregnant that… oh, well, just read:

    Sarah told me she had a great idea: we would keep it a secret—nobody would know that Bristol was pregnant. She told me that once Bristol had the baby she and Todd would adopt him. That way, she said, Bristol and I didn’t have to worry about anything. Sarah kept mentioning this plan. She was nagging—she wouldn’t give up. She would say, “So, are you gonna let me adopt him?” We both kept telling her we were definitely not going to let her adopt the baby. I think Sarah wanted to make Bristol look good, and she didn’t want people to know that her 17-year-old daughter was going to have a kid.

    “We both kept telling her we were definitely not going to let her adopt the baby.”

    Never change, Levi..

    http://wonkette.com/410860/sarah-palin-kept-trying-to-steal-levi-bristols-baby

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      The story is not new.. from 2009!

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    2. Anonymous4:48 PM

      It doesn't matter that it's not new, in my opinion.
      They would like nothing better than for us to forget.
      Everything.

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  46. Anonymous3:55 PM

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY TRACK PALIN.... YOU HAVE BEEN REPLACED!
    http://www.gunsandammo.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/2/files/interview-with-sgt-dakota-meyer/palin_meyer_atv.jpg

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  47. Anonymous3:58 PM

    The very fact that Palin's story about trig's birth and her "wild ride" is so outrageous that people believed it. The craziness worked in her favor because normal, sane people cannot and did not comprehend that someone could and would make up a tale so ridiculous! But Sarah is not "normal" people, she is a pathological narcissistic liar.

    There is a photo of her out there where she is 7 months pregnant with Track and she is HUGE, now compare that with her 7 month Trig pregnancy photo. No woman especially one at the age she was when supposedly carrying Trig gets bloated and huge with her first baby and virtually has no stomach and no bloat with her fifth child! even if she was starving herself, and I wouldn't put that past her either.

    But those photos of the differences in her pregnancies are telling. Gryph, could you or someone here find them and put them side by side? computers are not my forte.Thanks for hanging in there!

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      Palin's abs not so tight!~

      https://malialitman.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/palin-pregnant.jpg

      http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2vab0IHpgGw/TbLmWr14YgI/AAAAAAAAAJ8/vJVfseob03c/s1600/Nail%2B%2Bin%2Bthe%2Bcoffin%2Bpicture%2B-%2BLARGE%2B2.jpg

      One of these is not like the other!

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  48. Anonymous4:45 PM

    Left: Sarah Palin 2008, 8 months pregnant, Right, red shirt, Sarah Palin pregnant with Track http://bentcorner.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/sarah-palin-pregnant.jpg

    Another comparison photo: Red Shirt, Sarah expecting Track, Sarah in black suit "expecting" in 2008, a month or so before Trig was due to arrive http://i33.tinypic.com/mt70d4.jpg

    This photo appeared in the paper when Sarah and Todd announced their marriage. Sarah can't hide her pregnancy.
    https://palingates.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/palinsjustmarried.jpg

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  49. Anonymous4:45 PM

    Seven Years On: Why The Palin Birth Hoax Story Still Shouldn't Go Away

    http://kikoshouse.blogspot.com/2015/04/seven-years-on-why-palin-birth-hoax.html

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  50. Anonymous4:47 PM

    Happy birthday Piper!

    http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2015/03/happy-birthday-piper-palin.html

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  51. Anonymous4:51 PM

    OT...but what the heck is this old goose even talking about?
    Just after typing that he agreed with another psycho that the military should turn their guns on the President of the United States, he brags about his influence..."shared in universities"....good grief he's smoking something.



    "Avatar
    virginiagentleman1 korn8131 • 10 hours ago

    Here's the thing my friend, my thoughts reach far more people then just C4P. I have gotten replies, emails, and phone calls from folks who download my poor attempts at writing and share them with high school, college, and university classes, as well as Sunday school classes. Others download them and share them with co-workers, friends and neighbors.
    To borrow a phrase from our British cousins, I was 'gob-smacked' when I learned that!"

    What a jerk.

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      He's connected with people there. The schools, colleges, universities, and churches thing cracked me up! Of course he is, insert eyeball roll, but if it makes him feel better to think so....his life on the planet is short.

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  52. Anonymous4:59 PM

    Dear Sara,

    http://datechguyblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/iml2.png

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  53. Anonymous5:14 PM

    Just an observation here. I remember when Bristol was trotted out on stage at the RNC in the dress we know now was Meghan's, and her boobs were so weird. It looked like they were wrapped in something underneath her dress.

    When $arah was giving her speech, the camera cut to Levi and Bristol in the audience, and she was holding a sleeping Trig but the blanket was thrown clear up over her chest. I have two kids and eight grandchildren so I've been around the block in this; it seemed so odd to me....I have never seen someone hold a baby like that. My mind instantly said, "good heavens, is she lactating?" and I didn't even know who they were at the time.

    My $0.02.

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  54. Anonymous5:20 PM

    The photo of Sarah's parents holding Trig in the hospital hallway with no gowns or masks on are bs. A premature Downs Syndrome baby is very susceptible to germs and would not be allowed to be carted around like that. That is not a preemie newborn, he looks more like he's a couple of months old.

    I still think Bristol is his Mother., she always did and still does get special treatment from Sarah right now Barstool has a new instagram photo of Tripp and Dakota and their are school buses in the background, looks like Tripp is now going to school in Kentucky, poor Levi never had a chance at fair visitation.

    Sarah better marry Barstool off real soon because her fan club isn't going to keep looking the other way while she sleeps around with Dakota, not while there is a young child involved and where the heck are the courts in this? looks like Sarah still runs Wasilla.

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  55. Anonymous5:22 PM

    The Trig pregnancy was a political hoax with international dimensions. It was hatched by a fundie segment of the GOP -- a faction that included Bud Paxson, the man who had "set up," and was now blackmailing, McCain over Vicki Iseman.

    This "religious" end-of-days GOP faction pushed Palin as a VP candidate on a very unwilling McCain. To show McCain they meant business, the "faction" began to leak information to the New York Times about McCain's affair (on Paxson's infamous jet?) with Vicki Iseman.

    Two out the three planned front page stories were printed in the NY Times and were causing McCain serious embarrassment. Then, suddenly, the information leak to the Times shut down.

    It was at that moment that McCain (apparently) gave in to Paxson and his fellow blackmailers. Several days later, just as McCain was announced as the GOP presidential candidate, Sarah announced to an amazed Alaskan press that she was "7-months pregnant." At that time, no one knew that she would later (in August) be announced as McCain's running mate, But the deal had been made months earlier.

    An Israeli film crew (presumably they knew the secret) came to Alaska to film a documentary about the "pregnant governor" for an Israeli audience. (Please note the ongoing US/GOP fundie relationship with the Likud party in Israel.)

    The GOP/fundie faction then provided the Palins with the perfect DS prop to take on the campaign trail. And Trig was "delivered" to the happy family after a "wild ride" home from Texas.

    I seriously doubt that any Palin family member gave birth to Trig.The timing was just too perfect for Trig to have been an accidental conception by a friend or family member of the Palins. I suspect he came from some evangelical foundling home.

    But at the end of the day, it was Sarah who was used by the GOP Evangelical Dominionists.

    However, her handlers overestimated Palin's ability to carry out her part of the bargain which was to simulate a plausible pregnancy. Her incompetence was a surprise to everyone involved, and it continues to amaze all of us who follow her on this blog and elsewhere.

    And if Palin ever decides to speak honestly about the Trig plot, she can do a lot of damage-- all around the world!

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      Oh I can agree with this scenario, with Tawd's pimping, the Secret Service, APD, the trust fund included. Not so much her ever deciding to speak honestly about anything! hahahahaha

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  56. Anonymous5:32 PM

    Trig was part of a political hoax (with international dimensions). The plot was "hatched" by a right-to-life Dominionist faction of the GOP.

    The timing of Trig's "delivery" for the GOP campaign was too perfect for him to have been a chance conception of any of Palin's friends or family. He probably was acquired from a Fundie foundling home.

    Sarah was a pawn in the hoax, and if she ever decides to speak honestly about it all, she could do some major damage all around the world.

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  57. Anonymous5:36 PM

    Rumors, innuendo and inconclusive photographs do not a true story make, but the fact of the matter is that seven years after the birth of Trig Paxson Van Palin, there is no proof that right-wing sweetheart Sarah Palin is his biological mother and evidence he may be her grandson.

    http://themoderatevoice.com/204270/seven-years-on-why-the-sarah-palin-birth-hoax-story-still-shouldnt-go-away/

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  58. Anonymous5:40 PM

    What? We're not going to see the deployment photo of him leaning in the car saying "byes" to Tripp?? RAM and Nancy better start doing their jobs or Sarah might cry!!!

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  59. Anonymous5:42 PM

    Even in 2008, Sarah Palin's hands looked like those of an old woman.

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      That is because Sarah was old in 2008

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  60. Anonymous5:56 PM

    .Sarah Palin's facebook

    Thank you to the country music community for boldly supporting our military vets and their families! (And happy birthday to my favorite vet, just two days after his little brother's birthday; I'm undeservedly blessed with some great men in my life)

    ========

    So the intent of Sarah Palin's facebook post is to congratulate the country music people.

    Then there's Sarah Palin's oh by the way happy birthday comment that is not that important or worth Sarah's time to type their first names.

    One more thing Sarah, if I was your son I would say what fuck is going on with the happy birthday comment posted in parentheses?

    Then there's Sarah comment that she's blessed with some great men in her life. Is Sarah talking about President Obama, Dakota, Joey, Gino, Levi, Ben and Glenn?

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  61. Anonymous5:58 PM

    Gryphen, you are correct there was definitely a second down syndrome baby Sarah Palin would use as a substitute for Trig during the first year of infancy. Read this link to the vanity fair article. http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2010/09/michael-joseph-gross-responds-to-criticism-of-his-article-on-sarah-palin

    The boys mother, Gina Louden, foolishly admits during an interview that Sarah, Todd, and Piper walked out on stage accompanied by Gina's DS infant son, Samuel Louden. Palin remained on stage to deliver her speech while the others headed to the restricted back stage area. Sarah never told the sold out crowd the DS baby was Samuel Louden. The sold out audience assumed that the child with Down syndrome who was among the Palins was their son Trig. And Sarah never said otherwise, she simply acted like the baby was Trig!

    So there's your proof of least one DS baby Palin used as a substitute for Trig! little Trig was the must have prop of the 2008 campaign and the subsequent speaking engagements that followed. Most likely there was more than one Trig understudy waiting off stage.

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