Morality is not determined by the church you attend nor the faith you embrace. It is determined by the quality of your character and the positive impact you have on those you meet along your journey
Sunday, August 09, 2015
How the five major religions spread across the world.
It's like watching five different strains of cancer fighting to see which can kill the host body first.
Totally O/T: Maybe because tomorrow is the first day of school for my kids and I'm feeling a little sentimental about this new chapter in our lives, I got this overwhelming sense of worry about Palin's new granddaughter. She hasn't even acknowledged that the child exists let alone bragged about how children (especially Palin children) are a gift from God. What have they done, are doing, or are planning to do to that child?
I'm sick to my stomach thinking about it. It just hit me out of the blue.
There are a lot of children in this world that have much bigger needs and much less resources than the Palin kids. Probably many in your own neighborhood. Maybe you should focus on helping them, rather than spend your energy on your imaginary fake scenarios you are dreaming up in your head about the Palin children, who I have no doubt are probably cared for just fine.
With all due respect, some folks on this blog simply cannot quit their obsession with all things Palin. Bristol's soon to be born child was her personal gift to Jesse on a silver platter no less!
Your sanctimonious diatribe here is both condescending and demeaning.
Don't you have something to do besides defend the Grifter's kids?
What's in it for you, as Todd would say?
This person is pointing out the PAINFULLY OBVIOUS fact that $arah the Hypocrite has not yet once acknowledged her own daughter's pregnancy.
Golly gee whiz, you'd think such a huge Christian faithful as $arah would be all about choosing life, in spite of the fact that $arah didn't give her daughters any guidance, sex education, or advice on dating.
Pretty obvious that $arah was desperate to get Bristol all hooked up to the Meyer boy, but then someone finally talked some sense into him.
The Palin kids are in great need of guidance, vision, and proper parenting.
That's been true for the last 25 years, as outlined in many accounts about how those kids raised themselves when Todd wasn't home.
$arah Palin is a sociopath, and true to form, she is in it for hersel.
Not one Palin kids has meaningful employment, not one has been to college, and the 3 oldest are depending on welfare and Mommy for their existence.
I have no doubt the Palin kids are NOT cared for, they are being taught about lying, grifting, xenophobia, and Christian hypocrisy.
@Anon 7:24 As a parent, youth instructor, community activist, business owner and former soldier, it's been my life's work to care about the welfare of my and other people's kids and families. You know, the good folks in society you only celebrate with lapel pins and flag decorated boots, but shit on when it's time to actually do work or come up with solutions that benefit many instead of a select few. I'm THAT person! And I believe wholeheartedly that the newest Palin grandchild is in grave danger.
You sound like an extremely annoying sanctimonious self horn tooting crap slinger Superfan. Really though, you just got defensive because you got called out on your bullshit and you know it. Trying to regroup to not appear so crazy?
Maybe you should drive on up to Alaska and go knocking on the compound door, explain that you are only there to help as you are sure the unborn is in imminent danger! Lol.
You know are just slinging shit at the Palins because you thought you'd be funny or intriguing, and you got called on your stupid publicly. Happens.
The pervasiveness of religion on the planet is so depressing, frightening and dismal. Just imagine how different this world would be without this indoctrination and miasma. Truly one of the worst things that EVER happened to humankind is religion.
@Barbara Carlson: 'My Country, right or wrong,' is phrase co-opted by the reactionary right. Carl Schurz, a senator from Wisconsin in the 1870s, said, "My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right," responding to a colleague who was referring to a similar quote by Stephen Decatur: ""Our country! In her intercourse with foreign nations, may she always be in the right; but our country, right or wrong." The right conveniently forgets the last part of Schurz's clarification.
It's fascinating to watch, and it's such a short span of time, geologically speaking. The Crusades were a huge resource/money/wealth/culture/ arts and antiquities grab, with plenty of cheap or free labor, All that wealth etc taken as the spoils of war, killing in the name of religions and for what? It speaks volumes, but there's no end to the good and bad humans can and will do, because we can.
"It's like watching five different strains of cancer fighting to see which can kill the host body first." So very true!!!
OMG, that is absolutely stomach churning to see how toxic the world became because of the proliferation of religion. It's truly the most destructive entity that has ever happened in human kind. More people have been murdered, tortured, displaced, and destroyed in the name of religion than any good that has come of it. It's caused wars, persecution of women, annihilation of entire cultures and peoples. It's destroying this country like an internal plague. Such a waste of human capacity and potential. Such a vehicle to harm, judge, divide and conquer. Such a vehicle to hold back progress and growth of the human soul. It is an utter travesty.
6:49, I agree wholeheartedly with your eloquent post. The one thing that bugged me about this clip was the background music. I felt it reduced the video to propaganda along the lines of what religion does. However, your comments are among the most intelligent and best written that I've seen in a long time around here.
7-Year-Old Banished Student Feels Wrath Of Evangelical’s Religious Freedom
In February of this year, a seven-year-old 2nd grade student in Indiana was “banished” from having any contact with other students because his teacher, a playground supervisor, and a school administrator concluded that the child’s “bad ideas” persecuted (offended) another student. The ‘bad ideas‘ that persecuted ‘church-going‘ students was the 7-year-old boy replying to a question regarding “what church he attended.” Because the boy answered honestly, another child was persecuted, feigned being hurt, started crying, and resulted in the boy being ostracized, humiliated, and banished from any contact with his classmates for saying he did not believe in god or attend church.
Such an abomination to evangelicals was just too much for a playground supervisor who reported the religious persecution to the boy’s teacher identified as Ms. Meyer who demanded to know if the boy went to church, whether his family went to church, and whether his mother knew how he felt about god. Naturally, the boy asked what he had done wrong and after further humiliating the young boy for not “worshiping like her,” Ms. Meyer forced the child to sit by himself at lunch for three days and banished him from talking to other students because his “bad ideas” offended them. The boy’s teacher told him she was calling his mother to report his “bad ideas.” The American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit on behalf of the child for being punished and ostracized by school employees for exercising his religious freedom of not going to church or believing in god, and exercising his right of free speech.
The lawsuit stated that the boy’s teacher was not the end of the evangelical punishment. The suit says, “The matter was then sent to another adult employed at Forest Park Elementary School. Upon hearing the story, the adult told the boy’s classmate that she should be ‘happy she has faith’ and ‘not listen to the boy’s bad ideas’.” Realizing that they were out of line in ostracizing and banishing the child, the boy’s cowardly teacher never called his mother who only discovered the true meaning of “evangelical religious freedom” when her son came home upset “that he was hated by all his teachers and students at the school.”
The child’s mother called the assistant principal of the school demanding that her child not be punished for expressing his religious views. The teacher was also included in the call, during which time she proudly confirmed her involvement in punishing the boy for doing something so horrible as expressing his personal opinion, not going to church, and not believing in god; another form of religious persecution in evangelical America.
According to the lawsuit, not only did being banished from contact with other students, or being ostracized by evangelical adults in clear view of other students distress the boy, “the hurt did not end there.” After being shunned by his classmates on orders from his teacher, the young boy “with the bad ideas” now feels “anxious and fearful” about ever returning to school according to the lawsuit which is why the family is suing the school district with assistance from the ACLU whose interest is the school violating the child’s constitutional rights.
...Evangelicals, including most religious Republicans, have been on a crusade to take their bastardized Christianity into the public domain and they specifically train their young to “ram their religion down the throats” of their classmates; and teachers they suspect of non-compliance.
I'm a little surprised that Boston is on that list, since there has historically been such a large population of Irish people there. Or maybe that's changed.
Anon 8:09-- No, there still is a large population of Irish people in Boston. What's happened is that the younger ones are losing their religion in droves---"Irish Catholic" has become much more an ethnic identification than it is a statement of belief.
I remember my mother almost fainting in shock when my cousin confessed (ha) that he didn't know what a rosary even was.
Alaska's quitter governor and the Tea Party's queen diva Sarah Palin uses her Facebook page to comment on all things political, including touting Donald Trump's candidacy for the presidency. But when it comes to Trump's outrageously sexist comments about her former colleague at Fox News, Megyn Kelly, Palin has remained shamefully silent about El Donaldo's latest round of misogyny.
So much for Mama Grizzly solidarity with conservative women like Kelly, with whom Palin once declared: "We are the women's movement!"
...In addition to being beholden to Trump -- he's the only current candidate, with the possible exception of Ted Cruz, who would ever utter her name publicly -- I've been told that there's some inside back-story to Palin's glaring lack of solidarity with Kelly. According to a source once in Palin's inner-circle in Southcentral Alaska, Palin was livid at Kelley two years ago when the latter interrupted Palin in an interview in which Palin went into what seemed like a crack-addled rant about Obama and the American economy.
No one holds a grudge like Palin. In June, Palin was overtly critical of Kelly for interviewing Jill Duggar Dillard and Jessa Duggar Seewald on her Fox News program. Two weeks later it was announced that Palin had been dumped from her position at Fox News.
That Palin is an exceedingly dull blade goes without saying, but even she must have noted the timing of Fox's decision.
Trump just blew some seriously needed oxygen into Palin's sinking political platform by indicating that Palin would serve in a cabinet-level capacity in his administration--which only someone with Palin's crazy could view as a possibility -- and for a brief moment it appeared that Palin's stock, depressed as it is, might yet have another bump in it.
Not so. The descending numbers from her political action committee and her utter disappearance from the national Republican debate fully indicate that Palin's political half-life has long since passed. She's been reduced to a laugh-line and an afterthought.
All dem christians in da world and not a one has stepped up to claim Bristley Palins latest abstinence baby. You'd think they'd all be rushing in to claim this latest Palin immaculate conception.
Religion is the opiate of the masses. It gives those who profess to believe an excuse to blame their bad behavior on some sky pilot.
Prehistoric man used religion to explain what they didn't understand. They prayed to the gods when the world was tough and they needed someone to make it easier.
Today we have science to explain what we don't understand. Religion is now used as a weapon to force the weak to do what the powerful desire.
Totally O/T:
ReplyDeleteMaybe because tomorrow is the first day of school for my kids and I'm feeling a little sentimental about this new chapter in our lives, I got this overwhelming sense of worry about Palin's new granddaughter. She hasn't even acknowledged that the child exists let alone bragged about how children (especially Palin children) are a gift from God. What have they done, are doing, or are planning to do to that child?
I'm sick to my stomach thinking about it. It just hit me out of the blue.
What's up with that?!?!?
There are a lot of children in this world that have much bigger needs and much less resources than the Palin kids. Probably many in your own neighborhood. Maybe you should focus on helping them, rather than spend your energy on your imaginary fake scenarios you are dreaming up in your head about the Palin children, who I have no doubt are probably cared for just fine.
Delete¿Quien le importa?
DeleteWith all due respect, some folks on this blog simply cannot quit their obsession with all things Palin. Bristol's soon to be born child was her personal gift to Jesse on a silver platter no less!
Delete@ anon 7:24 pm
DeleteYour sanctimonious diatribe here is both condescending and demeaning.
Don't you have something to do besides defend the Grifter's kids?
What's in it for you, as Todd would say?
This person is pointing out the PAINFULLY OBVIOUS fact that $arah the Hypocrite has not yet once acknowledged her own daughter's pregnancy.
Golly gee whiz, you'd think such a huge Christian faithful as $arah would be all about choosing life, in spite of the fact that $arah didn't give her daughters any guidance, sex education, or advice on dating.
Pretty obvious that $arah was desperate to get Bristol all hooked up to the Meyer boy, but then someone finally talked some sense into him.
The Palin kids are in great need of guidance, vision, and proper parenting.
That's been true for the last 25 years, as outlined in many accounts about how those kids raised themselves when Todd wasn't home.
$arah Palin is a sociopath, and true to form, she is in it for hersel.
Not one Palin kids has meaningful employment, not one has been to college, and the 3 oldest are depending on welfare and Mommy for their existence.
I have no doubt the Palin kids are NOT cared for, they are being taught about lying, grifting, xenophobia, and Christian hypocrisy.
@Anon 7:24
DeleteAs a parent, youth instructor, community activist, business owner and former soldier, it's been my life's work to care about the welfare of my and other people's kids and families. You know, the good folks in society you only celebrate with lapel pins and flag decorated boots, but shit on when it's time to actually do work or come up with solutions that benefit many instead of a select few. I'm THAT person! And I believe wholeheartedly that the newest Palin grandchild is in grave danger.
You sound like an extremely annoying sanctimonious self horn tooting crap slinger Superfan. Really though, you just got defensive because you got called out on your bullshit and you know it. Trying to regroup to not appear so crazy?
DeleteMaybe you should drive on up to Alaska and go knocking on the compound door, explain that you are only there to help as you are sure the unborn is in imminent danger! Lol.
You know are just slinging shit at the Palins because you thought you'd be funny or intriguing, and you got called on your stupid publicly. Happens.
Wow! I must have hit a nerve @Anon 7:44a. Usually when the attacks become personal, it's because someone unearthed a truth about the Palins.
DeleteYay me!!!! What did I win?
Hm. It's not working...
ReplyDeleteNo there it goes. What is that little dot of green in the West Indies? Strange and interesting...
ReplyDeleteThe pervasiveness of religion on the planet is so depressing, frightening and dismal. Just imagine how different this world would be without this indoctrination and miasma. Truly one of the worst things that EVER happened to humankind is religion.
ReplyDeleteHell yeah!
DeleteIt's right up there with patriotism -- my country right or wrong.
DeleteBut combine the two and you have a government that thinks it's inerrant.
I've said this before, but if that sick combination gets in charge in America, you can kiss your freedom goodbye.
@Barbara Carlson: 'My Country, right or wrong,' is phrase co-opted by the reactionary right. Carl Schurz, a senator from Wisconsin in the 1870s, said, "My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right," responding to a colleague who was referring to a similar quote by Stephen Decatur: ""Our country! In her intercourse with foreign nations, may she always be in the right; but our country, right or wrong." The right conveniently forgets the last part of Schurz's clarification.
Deletewithout ships - religion would have traveled much slower.
ReplyDeleteTo quote the great George Carlin, "There are a lot of dumb mother fuckers out there"!
ReplyDeleteIt's fascinating to watch, and it's such a short span of time, geologically speaking. The Crusades were a huge resource/money/wealth/culture/ arts and antiquities grab, with plenty of cheap or free labor, All that wealth etc taken as the spoils of war, killing in the name of religions and for what?
ReplyDeleteIt speaks volumes, but there's no end to the good and bad humans can and will do, because we can.
"It's like watching five different strains of cancer fighting to see which can kill the host body first." So very true!!!
"That vengeful god who ruins our bodies and leaves us with just enough wit for regret." - Mary Carson, The Thorn Birds
ReplyDeleteI'm with you, babe.
(Forgive the indulgence gang, it's just the way I feel tonight.)
https://youtu.be/24yQieBH5fo
Good analogy
ReplyDeleteOMG, that is absolutely stomach churning to see how toxic the world became because of the proliferation of religion. It's truly the most destructive entity that has ever happened in human kind. More people have been murdered, tortured, displaced, and destroyed in the name of religion than any good that has come of it. It's caused wars, persecution of women, annihilation of entire cultures and peoples. It's destroying this country like an internal plague. Such a waste of human capacity and potential. Such a vehicle to harm, judge, divide and conquer. Such a vehicle to hold back progress and growth of the human soul. It is an utter travesty.
ReplyDelete6:49, I agree wholeheartedly with your eloquent post. The one thing that bugged me about this clip was the background music. I felt it reduced the video to propaganda along the lines of what religion does. However, your comments are among the most intelligent and best written that I've seen in a long time around here.
DeleteTHIS is what religion does to people:
ReplyDelete7-Year-Old Banished Student Feels Wrath Of Evangelical’s Religious Freedom
In February of this year, a seven-year-old 2nd grade student in Indiana was “banished” from having any contact with other students because his teacher, a playground supervisor, and a school administrator concluded that the child’s “bad ideas” persecuted (offended) another student. The ‘bad ideas‘ that persecuted ‘church-going‘ students was the 7-year-old boy replying to a question regarding “what church he attended.” Because the boy answered honestly, another child was persecuted, feigned being hurt, started crying, and resulted in the boy being ostracized, humiliated, and banished from any contact with his classmates for saying he did not believe in god or attend church.
Such an abomination to evangelicals was just too much for a playground supervisor who reported the religious persecution to the boy’s teacher identified as Ms. Meyer who demanded to know if the boy went to church, whether his family went to church, and whether his mother knew how he felt about god. Naturally, the boy asked what he had done wrong and after further humiliating the young boy for not “worshiping like her,” Ms. Meyer forced the child to sit by himself at lunch for three days and banished him from talking to other students because his “bad ideas” offended them. The boy’s teacher told him she was calling his mother to report his “bad ideas.” The American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit on behalf of the child for being punished and ostracized by school employees for exercising his religious freedom of not going to church or believing in god, and exercising his right of free speech.
The lawsuit stated that the boy’s teacher was not the end of the evangelical punishment. The suit says, “The matter was then sent to another adult employed at Forest Park Elementary School. Upon hearing the story, the adult told the boy’s classmate that she should be ‘happy she has faith’ and ‘not listen to the boy’s bad ideas’.” Realizing that they were out of line in ostracizing and banishing the child, the boy’s cowardly teacher never called his mother who only discovered the true meaning of “evangelical religious freedom” when her son came home upset “that he was hated by all his teachers and students at the school.”
The child’s mother called the assistant principal of the school demanding that her child not be punished for expressing his religious views. The teacher was also included in the call, during which time she proudly confirmed her involvement in punishing the boy for doing something so horrible as expressing his personal opinion, not going to church, and not believing in god; another form of religious persecution in evangelical America.
According to the lawsuit, not only did being banished from contact with other students, or being ostracized by evangelical adults in clear view of other students distress the boy, “the hurt did not end there.” After being shunned by his classmates on orders from his teacher, the young boy “with the bad ideas” now feels “anxious and fearful” about ever returning to school according to the lawsuit which is why the family is suing the school district with assistance from the ACLU whose interest is the school violating the child’s constitutional rights.
...Evangelicals, including most religious Republicans, have been on a crusade to take their bastardized Christianity into the public domain and they specifically train their young to “ram their religion down the throats” of their classmates; and teachers they suspect of non-compliance.
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/08/09/7-year-old-banished-student-feels-wrath-evangelicals-religious-freedom.html
The 30 Least Religious Cities In The United States
ReplyDeletehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/most-religiously-unaffiliated-us-cities_55c52ac3e4b0f1cbf1e526b0?kvcommref=mostpopular
Couldn't be happier I live in one of them!
I'm a little surprised that Boston is on that list, since there has historically been such a large population of Irish people there. Or maybe that's changed.
DeleteMinneapolis? Nashville? Hmmm...
DeleteAnon 8:09-- No, there still is a large population of Irish people in Boston. What's happened is that the younger ones are losing their religion in droves---"Irish Catholic" has become much more an ethnic identification than it is a statement of belief.
DeleteI remember my mother almost fainting in shock when my cousin confessed (ha) that he didn't know what a rosary even was.
Palin's Shameful Silence on Trump's Misogyny
ReplyDelete--Geoffrey Dunn
Alaska's quitter governor and the Tea Party's queen diva Sarah Palin uses her Facebook page to comment on all things political, including touting Donald Trump's candidacy for the presidency. But when it comes to Trump's outrageously sexist comments about her former colleague at Fox News, Megyn Kelly, Palin has remained shamefully silent about El Donaldo's latest round of misogyny.
So much for Mama Grizzly solidarity with conservative women like Kelly, with whom Palin once declared: "We are the women's movement!"
...In addition to being beholden to Trump -- he's the only current candidate, with the possible exception of Ted Cruz, who would ever utter her name publicly -- I've been told that there's some inside back-story to Palin's glaring lack of solidarity with Kelly. According to a source once in Palin's inner-circle in Southcentral Alaska, Palin was livid at Kelley two years ago when the latter interrupted Palin in an interview in which Palin went into what seemed like a crack-addled rant about Obama and the American economy.
No one holds a grudge like Palin. In June, Palin was overtly critical of Kelly for interviewing Jill Duggar Dillard and Jessa Duggar Seewald on her Fox News program. Two weeks later it was announced that Palin had been dumped from her position at Fox News.
That Palin is an exceedingly dull blade goes without saying, but even she must have noted the timing of Fox's decision.
Trump just blew some seriously needed oxygen into Palin's sinking political platform by indicating that Palin would serve in a cabinet-level capacity in his administration--which only someone with Palin's crazy could view as a possibility -- and for a brief moment it appeared that Palin's stock, depressed as it is, might yet have another bump in it.
Not so. The descending numbers from her political action committee and her utter disappearance from the national Republican debate fully indicate that Palin's political half-life has long since passed. She's been reduced to a laugh-line and an afterthought.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-dunn/palins-shameful-silence-on-trumps-misogyny_b_7963048.html
All dem christians in da world and not a one has stepped up to claim Bristley Palins latest abstinence baby. You'd think they'd all be rushing in to claim this latest Palin immaculate conception.
ReplyDeleteReligion is the opiate of the masses. It gives those who profess to believe an excuse to blame their bad behavior on some sky pilot.
ReplyDeletePrehistoric man used religion to explain what they didn't understand. They prayed to the gods when the world was tough and they needed someone to make it easier.
Today we have science to explain what we don't understand. Religion is now used as a weapon to force the weak to do what the powerful desire.
So many sheeple...