Courtesy of CNN:
The anti-abortion group that has accused Planned Parenthood of illegally selling organs and tissue from aborted fetuses released a new video Tuesday, a day after the Senate blocked a bill that would have defunded the organization.
The latest undercover video, which is clearly edited, features operatives for The Center for Medical Progress posing as employees of a fetal tissue procurement company attempting to buy intact fetal organs from a Planned Parenthood branch in Houston. In the clip, Melissa Farrell, director of research for Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast, discusses the relationship between altering abortion procedures to get the most intact organs possible and costs.
"If we alter our process and we're able to obtain intact fetal cadavers, it's all a matter of line items," she said in the video.
Farrell, who said in the video that she is responsible for diversifying Planned Parenthood's revenue streams, also said the group works with multiple academics and researchers studying fetuses looking for intact organs -- and sometimes complete cadavers.
As you can imagine such frank talk about harvesting organs from aborted fetuses has further enraged the anti-choice crowd and driven them into a frenzy of letter writing and e-mailing to their local politicians who now feel they have little choice but to at least appear to be making an effort to defund Planned Parenthood.
However the video also makes it appear that the doctors performing the abortions will alter the procedure in order to get a better "sample" for sale later which might place the mother at risk during the procedure.
Here is the press release by the group The Center for Medical Progress who are behind these videos:
The fifth undercover video in the controversy over Planned Parenthood's sale of aborted baby parts shows the Director of Research for Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast, Melissa Farrell, advertising the Texas Planned Parenthood branch's track record of fetal tissue sales, including its ability to deliver fully intact fetuses.
In the video, actors posing as representatives from a human biologics company meet with Farrell at the abortion-clinic headquarters of Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast in Houston to discuss a potential partnership to harvest fetal organs.
"Where we probably have an edge over other organizations, our organization has been doing research for many many years," explains Farrell. When researchers need a specific part from the aborted fetus, Farrell says, "We bake that into our contract, and our protocol, that we follow this, so we deviate from our standard in order to do that."
Asked specifically if this means Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast can change abortion procedures to supply intact fetal specimens, Farrell affirms, "Some of our doctors in the past have projects and they're collecting the specimens, so they do it in a way that they get the best specimens, so I know it can happen."
The investigators ask Farrell how she will frame a contract in which they pay a higher price for higher quality fetal body parts, and she replies, "We can work it out in the context of--obviously, the procedure itself is more complicated," suggesting that "without having you cover the procedural cost" and paying for the abortion, the higher specimen price could be framed as "additional time, cost, administrative burden."
Farrell finally summarizes her affiliate's approach to fetal tissue payments: "If we alter our process, and we are able to obtain intact fetal cadavers, we can make it part of the budget that any dissections are this, and splitting the specimens into different shipments is this. It's all just a matter of line items."
However Media Matters has compared the released fifteen minutes of footage and compared it to the full transcript and found some very deceptive edits.
Here are a few of them:
The Center for Medical Progress' full-transcript of their undercover video reveals that the anti-choice organization cut-out portions of Farrell's comments in order to make it appear that the official was suggesting changes to protocol that could endanger a patient. The short video skipped over Farrell explaining that everything done "is there for the safety of the patient" and under "our standard process."
Not included in the 15-minute version of the video is Farrell's further explanation that the clinic would not alter or delay a procedure for the sake of fetal tissue donation, per Planned Parenthood and tissue donation guidelines.
The unedited transcript reveals Farrell explaining that any changes to the procedure would need to be cleared by doctors and pose no threat to the patient.
The full, unedited transcript reveals Farrell's explanation that any reimbursement for the costs incurred by the clinic cover only administrative costs, and would not be calculated on a per-specimen basis.
The problem of course is this now has become a conflict between logic and faith. The folks on the anti-choice side are driven by their faith that God places a child in the mother's womb, and that man has no right to interfere with its birth.
On the pro-choice side is the understanding that reproduction is not the product of divine intervention but rather every day biological interactions between human beings, and that allowing one of those humans to walk away unburdened by the interaction, while forcing the other to take full responsibility for the embryo created by the mingling of sperm and egg, is patently unfair and should not be forced on women simply due to a different reproductive system.
If these people REALLY wanted to reduce the number of abortions in this country, instead of simply controlling women, they would turn their attention to increased education and the increased availability of preventive measures and stop attacking programs that provide very important services for the health of American women.
What no one has made clear for me is how the hell did these videos ever get made? Who would agree to this? How did they even get in the door to do this? Are people at Planned Parenthood this clueless about talking to strangers? It just doesn't make any sense.
ReplyDeleteThey had fake credentials.
DeleteNo one agreed. They used spy cams, like in hats, glasses and lapel pins.
DeleteAnd yes, after the first Planned Parenthood should have changed their policies, but they still haven't.
Planned Parenthood Supporters Need to Stop Blinking at ‘Shocking’ Videos
ReplyDeletehttp://www.mediaite.com/online/planned-parenthood-supporters-need-to-stop-blinking-at-shocking-videos/
If they're serious about it - they don't need to de-fund Planned Parenthood: simply make selling fetal tissue illegal.
ReplyDeleteOf course, they won't do that: it was the Republican-led congress under Bill Clinton that legalized the selling of fetal tissue (fetal "cadavers") back in the 1990's. Yes - the Republicans voted for it time and again. Mitch McConnell is one of them.
That's a fact, Jack.
That's the truth, Ruth.
That's the ummm... well, you get the gist.
1. Selling fetal tissue is illegal.
Delete2. Planned Parenthood isn't selling fetal tissue.
To do what you're suggesting they'd have to forbid all research involving fetal tissue of any kind.
Talk about setting medicine and science back to the stone age.
I'm sure they're fine with that.
"They" (the legislators in the USA) can NOT control abortion for women that have funds and leisure to travel to Canada or overseas for a legal, safe, affordable, available abortion.
ReplyDeleteThe only control possible for legislators in the USA is to inflict their religious fantasies on women in the lower economic brackets. This is not about "pro-life vs pro-choice", it is about making poor women have babies.
Exactly. -sjp
Delete2:52 The video makers created a fake medical company that supposedly brokered the tissues. The recordings they made are probably illegal under California law.
ReplyDeleteThey are illegal under California law and a judge has ordered them to cease releasing video.
DeleteThe IRS is also investigating them for fraud as they solicited funds on the internet under false pretenses.
Same old same old with the GOP. ACORN tactics all over again, also Shirley Sherrod. People with sense didn't fight
ReplyDeleteand the cons won with bullshit.
O/T http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/clinton-trump-phone-call
Hysterical!
What I don't understand is why anyone from Planned Parenthood would talk to outsiders about any of these things. They seem to be a naive group of people. And, Planned Parenthood should sue the supposed "Center for Medical Progress." A bogus group for sure.
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Your question is a good one, Beaglemom.
DeleteBut I am going to give PP some slack here, as I would anyone who is defrauded into a recorded conversation and then has that conversation edited in a false and misleading way
planned parenthood should start taping all of their conversations with unknown groups, to combat these kind of smear jobs. Also the medical research companies should come out and let people know that planned parenthood isn't selling baby parts to the highest bidder.
DeleteNot taping. Videotaping. Harder to falsify and easier to prove their attackers are lying through editing.
Delete"The folks on the anti-choice side are driven by their faith that God places a child in the mother's womb, and that man has no right to interfere with its birth."
ReplyDeleteThat might be true for some, but not all people view abortion through the lens of religion. Some people just draw the line between fetus and baby at a different point than you. This is exactly why 1st trimester abortions have more support than 2nd or 3rd trimester. If it were a religious thing, then the support would be unwavering throughout
And the people that "just draw the line" don't give a shit if a women that is pregnant beyond the arbitrary line goes to Canada or overseas for an abortion. The "line" is only for imposing an arbitrary rule on women too poor to leave the USA for an abortion.
DeleteWhat is the point of drawing "the line" for just poor women? Does it make people feel powerful?
Some also don't understand all of the reasons for an abortion. The majority think it's just a woman who decides she doesn't want a baby.
DeleteBut many women that have late term abortions really want their babies. But the genetic testing they undergo to identify some abnormalities has to wait until after 20 weeks. When they get word their baby has no brain or will die in the womb or within minutes of being born and nothing can be done...they have very little time to decide whether to carry a dead baby to term or abort it.
The stories told by these women are heartbreaking.
Yes. And abortion procedures are not used solely to terminate, either. I had a fetal death at 26 weeks. I needed a late-term abortion procedure because labor did not start on its own, and I was in danger of sepsis.
DeleteOne of the worst things I have ever gone through in my life was making my way past the crowd of protesters waving signs and screaming at me to let my baby live.
Having said all that---if the fetal tissue of my unborn child had been used in some way as to further scientific research, and thus to help someone else, I would have been SO HAPPY.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE??????
Come on, Jesse. We can't be educating women. 'Cause then we might take over the world. ;) And why shouldn't I be able to donate my fetal tissue to medical research?
ReplyDeleteMr. Gryph, your first 2 paragraphs of commentary beginning with logic v. faith is seriously the most succinct way I've seen the abortion debate summarized. Bravo & I'm saving & will credit if I ever use it & get noticed! -sjp
ReplyDeleteThanks, I was going to say it, but not as succinctly as you did.
DeleteWe may see this happening. And yes, PP needs to get a grip and make it a priority for their people to be aware of these creeps who will stop at nothing.
ReplyDeletePP is probably spending all their worry on bombings and shootings. -sjp
Correct, sjp.
DeleteAt the pond there is a poster named TBo. IIRC it was her niece who was raped and disfigured and made pregnant at 17 and her parents refused consent for an abortion and the girl killed herself.
ReplyDeleteI don't know what happened to her organs.
Naturally, there was no sympathy for this girl from Sarah Palin's cult..
They probably condemned her and said she committed a mortal sin and will burn in hell forever.
DeleteIf God is responsible for every conception then why does God destroy half of all babies created?
ReplyDeleteIf God is responsible for every conception then why does God punish so many babies by depriving them of a father?
If God is responsible for every conception then why does God punish perfectly good God-worshiping by depriving them of children?
im pro choice. unwavering. but there is going to be problems after this video. its not so much the discussion of selling the fetal tissue. its the fact that they let this guy into the room and dumped all the parts on a tray for him to examine. he picks at the tissue identifying parts like lungs etc then he picks up an arm and hand. its not a blob of cells. its a fully formed baby part. while they discuss 16 to 22 week abortions. there is going to be fallout from this. this is going to be their wedge issue in the elections. its going to motivate their base to get out and vote. no matter how pro choice you are nobody wants to see or know the details. its like being a meat eater but not wanting to see the details of animal slaughter. its like not really caring about hunting till you see pics of dead lions and elephants. there really is going to be fallout and i hope we are ready for it.
ReplyDeleteI agree. More women will leave the US to have abortions and more poor women will seek back alley abortionists. The net result of these videos will be the same number of abortions and more dead women.
DeleteOh, please. Let go of your pearls, 7:01.
DeleteI am pro-choice, and I agree with 7:01pm -- this video will be very effective at galvanizing many against PP and abortion in general, unfortunately.
DeleteI just KNOW many/most people who are not in the medical field are not at all comfortable with the blood and guts involved with many medical procedures.
To see recognizable human parts will be shocking to them, and then to hear the clinic staff talking so matter-of-factly and in a seemingly callous manner about the procedures and tissue samples is a potent combination to those not taking into account the context.
The PP personnel at this facility struck me as naive and amateur; they need better training and policy in dealing with third parties.
It's just going to keep getting worse and worse as these "journalists" release more heavily edited and overly biased bullshit videos.
ReplyDeleteWhere's the injunction a California Judge issued against releasing this propaganda? "God" doesn't place anything in a woman's womb, it defies logic and science.
Anyone with eyes and ears can see and hear how heavy these clips are edited/spliced to fit a pre concieved misconception.
I hope this backfires and in a big way.
I'll say it again.
ReplyDeletePlanned Parenthood need to take control of all of these conversations.
They need to vet these people to make sure they are who they say they are. The means appointments two weeks in advance. NO last minute appointments.
They need to have these conversations only in Planned Parenthood conference rooms with at least TWO staff present.
They need to videotape every conference and tell those present they are being videotaped and the ENTIRE videotape will be released if there is any attempt to smear Planned Parenthood with an edited LIE.
Well if you can get the word out start questioning all the Reps and Senators in Congress as to when they are going to stop funding Israel. Israel gets over 3.5 billion dollars from us every year (some estimates are higher). However, Israel has free health care and abortion on demand. A woman can get an abortion at any stage in her pregnancy. A girl 17 and under does not need parental approval to get an abortion. We pay for those abortions with our tax dollars. If you do research on site, the group that prepared this video has been asked in the past about Israel but they refuse to answer. Time to start questioning Reps running for president.
ReplyDeleteThese people are such hypocrites.
Eric Erickson reminds that all Rebiblicans are waging Quiverfull war.
ReplyDelete"ERICKSON: No, I don’t think the culture war is over primarily because the people who appear to be the victors right now are the least likely to procreate, so we will eventually breed them out of existence demographically. So the culture war continues and will continue. And I don’t mean to be flippant by that statement. But if you look at the demographic trends in this country, in the next 50 years, the country will be filled with young Christian Hispanic families who listen to country music, and that’s just — demographically, they’re our people."
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/08/05/3688375/erick-erickson-die-out/
http://www.redstate.com/2015/08/05/jim-galloway-needs-learn-google/
He's a flipping moron.
Deletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marching_Morons
ReplyDeleteEnjoy.
Any Monty Python fan would know that "Every Sperm Is Sacred."
ReplyDeleteParticularly Republican sperm.
I am pro life myself, but I don't try to force my opinion on onthers. That being said, in my opinion, birth control should be provided for low cost or free for the poor and to teens. It should be readily available and easily procured for anyone that needs it. The GOP is so stupid, gettting on their high horse, as if they by their morals will stop people having sex. Not going to happen, give everyone who needs it birth control and then abortions would really drop in number. They're all stupid about that. I think all high schools and colleges should give birth control to their students if they need it.
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