Wednesday, September 23, 2015

OB/GYN's expose Carly Fiorina's claims of an aborted fetus kicking its legs in those doctored Planned Parenthood videos as false.

Courtesy of Dr. Jen Gunter's blog:

This weekend I posted about my hypothesis that the 3rd Planned Parenthood video deceptively shot and edited by the Center for Medical Progress did not contain video of a “fully formed fetus” (Carly Fiorina’s words), I believe it is a premature delivery. I reached that conclusion from 25 years of clinical practice in OB/GYN. I decided to ask nine other OB/GYNs what they thought about the clip, meaning I put a lot more effort into getting the facts than the politicians who voted to defund Planned Parenthood. All nine OB/GYNs agree with me. Several are OB/GYns who have done advanced training in family planning and so are experts in the field. 

We all agree the video clip is highly unlikely to be from an abortion. We all agree it is likely a premature delivery. We all agree it can’t be from a Planned Parenthood clinic. 

Here’s why: 
  • The cord is clamped. No one ever clamps the cord in a 2nd trimester abortion. Ever. No one has seen it and no one has even heard of it happening. If you want to see the image where I point out the clamp, click here. I know it disturbs some so I’m not reposting. 
  • The condition of the skin. Fetal skin is very fragile at 18 weeks, but here it is perfect. There is also no bruising. With 2nd trimester abortions, even when the purpose is to deliver intact (which is rarely the case), there is some instrumentation and this always leaves marks. If this were an induction of labor there is almost always bruising and skin maceration. Inductions are only done for malformations and none are present. 
  • The gestational age. Likely 18 weeks, maybe 20 weeks. At a Planned Parenthood an abortion at this gestation would be a D & E. Inductions don’t happen at Planned Parenthood. 
The evidence suggests this is a premature delivery. The perfect condition is typical of a rapid but atraumatic delivery, such as cervical incompetence or a second twin.
It is always nice when a person with actual knowledge and facts to back them up is able to bitchslap conservative bullshit right back at those that are propagating it.

Dr. Gunter has more revealing information on her blog as well, such as the fact that the  organization which originally provided the  clip stands behind it, but is unwilling to reveal how they came by it or where it is from.

How convenient.


  1. Anonymous12:04 PM

    When all the liars have is lies, they lie...Carley is good at that.

  2. Yep Fiorina is a skank she is Palin with a few more synapses

    1. Anonymous3:00 PM

      Carly is a skanky liar just like Palin is. In fact I'm surprised that her and mini skank haven't jumped on this?
      With all the options available to women these days, I can't understand why abortion is such a big darn dill to these idiots, still? But I guess get abortion outlawed then the Birthcontrol pill etc etc as they take away women's rights.
      I'm Glad Dr. Jen has the stones to stand up and call them out.
      How did she even find the video no one could find it and Carly wasn't saying.
      Liars! All Right winger are liars.

  3. Anonymous12:33 PM

    Ok, fine. But promise not to crush every severe conservative fever dream fantasy, please. Benghazi! is still the worst political scandal in American history, right?

  4. Anonymous12:48 PM

    Also too:

    This is a big fucking deal!

    Two courts have ruled in as many days that anti-abortion activist David Daleiden and the Center for Medical Progress must turn over private documents and submit to questions about how they orchestrated their video sting of Planned Parenthood.

    The rulings could require Daleiden to turn over paperwork and details of his operation, such as how he got into National Abortion Federation conferences. They also say he must provide the full, raw footage he collected of some of his meetings while posing as an executive of a fictitious tissue procurement firm.

    LOTS MORE AT THE LINK. Between this and getting the bank records to see who paid for this thugging- now maybe the pushback is getting somewhere.


    1. About fucking time this went to court!
      What will FOX report about this?
      What will CNN report about this?
      If you only get your news from them, what chance does the truth have of getting out?

  5. Anonymous12:58 PM

    What a lying bitch!

    What is wrong with these Republicans? Don't they know they get caught (with facts!) every time? She is a mental mess as to being a pathological liar! And, she'll never be POTUS in 2016!

  6. Anonymous12:58 PM

    She wears the same anti-social personality expression as Dick(head) Cheney

  7. Anonymous1:00 PM

    That she wears the same snarling expression as Dick Cheney tells me all I need to know.

    1. Anonymous2:10 PM

      Maiden name Sneed? lol

  8. Anonymous1:00 PM

    Great pic of Carly. She can't smile, only try to coerce her sneer into something that resembles one. FAIL.....

    She's a effing liar.

    1. Anonymous1:54 PM

      Cruella DeVile. Throwing red meat to the rabid dogs.

    2. Anonymous4:52 AM

      Thank you 1:54! I'll never not call her that now!

  9. Randall1:03 PM

    Carly might not be lying...
    SOMEbody might have sat her down and showed her a film they claimed was part of the undercover films. A clip from a premature birth with a dubbed voice-over performed by someone with an agenda
    ...and Carly believed it.
    STILL believes it.

    Maybe she believes them because she has a predisposition toward belief in that bullshit? Could be...
    but it might be that you could sit her down at a lie detector and she could pass it. Because she has been fooled.

    But, if all this conjecture is so...
    then is Carly really somebody you want for your president?

    Someone who can be duped by a deceptively edited video?

    Does that show good, presidential judgment?

    Doesn't that scare you just a little bit?

    Next time you see Carly talk about this on TV...
    watch for the venom in her demeanor
    look at the righteous fury in her eyes, the near-madness on her face
    listen to the steely conviction quaver her voice
    (all because of a fraudulent video)
    ...and think about her having access to the nuclear launch codes.

    Remember Shock and Awe?
    ...there were no WMDs.
    They found no WMDs.

    1. Anonymous1:29 PM

      She speaks with the same conviction and authority as Michele Bachmann did on saying a supporter told her her son caught autism from a vaccine.

    2. Anonymous4:33 PM

      Tep, I watched "The Bible" and when the disembodied voice of God himself, told Moses to tap the rock, and the red seas parted.

      Saw it with my own two eyes!!!! I also saw a bearded lady at a circus and siamese twins joined by the wallet.

  10. Anonymous1:13 PM

    Who you gonna believe? Me or your lying eyes?

  11. Anonymous1:27 PM

    This video isn't the first thing Carly Fiorina has lied about and it won't be the last. She is a congenital LIAR. A pathological LIAR. She is out to win the presidency and if she has to LIE, then LIE, LIE, LIE she will because Carly Fiorina is a LIAR.

    Oh... did I forget to say that Carly Fiorina is a LIAR?

    Carly Fiorina is a LIAR!

    1. She's also a 1%er Republican so isn't calling her a liar redundant?

    2. CorningNY9:03 PM

      I think you forgot to mention that Carly Fiorina doesn't tell the truth.

  12. Anonymous1:40 PM

    The GOP platform is to lie about everything that will help the 99% and the global ecosystem ... everything. The goal is to plunder for the benefit of the 1% .... everything. Oh, and in case it isn't obvious, Fiorina is a sociopath.

  13. LisaB25952:01 PM

    The truly sad thing is that baby was someone's tragedy. The chances are that was a very wanted child that came prematurely and they are LYING about it for political gain.

    1. Anonymous4:37 PM

      Or it could have been a stock realistic looking movie prop, or a figment of Carley;s imagination. Or it just didn't happen at all,

      Google "Alien Autopsey" on you tube

    2. Anonymous8:17 PM

      Actually, if you dig a little further into the story you will find that the person(s) who put together that video took footage from a family's website honoring their pre-term little boy who was born at 19 weeks and survived just a few minutes after delivery.


  14. Anonymous2:03 PM

    O/T -
    Just announced here in Dayton, Ohio

    The first Presidential debate will be held here at the same venue that McGrumpy introduced Her Heinous, The Nutter Center at Wright-State University.

    How long before $he thinks they picked the place just because of her? Bwahahahaha!


  15. Anonymous2:09 PM

    The doctors points are well written.

  16. Anonymous2:38 PM

    Did Cheney lend her his sneer? She wears if convincingly.

  17. It won't make any difference.

    She'll continue to lie as long as she has an accepting and cheering audience. No amount of proof or facts will stop that. It will continue along the path of the Planned Parenthood video lies. Those that want to believe will no matter how much the lie is exposed.

    It is like religion. Decide on what you believe then find something to support that view and ignore the rest.

    The knowledge and experience of these doctors will fall on deaf ears.

  18. Anonymous3:35 PM

    Wishing that this would be made available to Congress...
    (I know, I know. Those Gynoticians would not be open to facts and reason... :( )

  19. Anonymous4:26 PM

    Carly, you possess a self importance attitude that is misplaced.
    You are a legend in your mind .get over yourself! You are homely and quite a person with a low iq at best. Yes well. You are a moron.
    Get a hobby.Do some good , volunteer to help the less fortunate.
    Or go fuck yourself

  20. Anonymous4:43 PM

    The doctor's blog is more authentic and believable, She speaks in clinical terms with her own experience. Carley was too emotional and over the top with her fantasy "I Saw it" She can hem and haw all she wants, she can say she "saw" something for political gain, but it's up to the liar to come up with the link or proof.

  21. Anonymous4:58 PM

    Yes! Yes! Yes! Sarah, Bristol, and Nancy... Carly Fiorina LIED!
    You 3 fools fell for it hook, line, and sinker!

  22. Carly Fiorina?

    Well, as long as we're talking about ho's, let's point out that Marina Lupas has not posted anything to her Twitter feed since July 8.

    That was a few days after Bristol announced her coming blessed event. Coincidence?

    1. Anonymous5:54 PM

      Has there been a "sighting" of Marina since she quit her Twitter feed, ORN? Maybe Sarah and Todd "offed" Marina like they supposedly did Curt Menard and Dar Miller?

  23. Anonymous5:46 PM

    Dr Gunter what is your professional opinion regarding Sarah Palin's sponge bob square pants pregnant flat stomach and within the blink of an eye Sarah Palin's stomach pops out. Was that a fraud?

  24. Anonymous7:49 PM

    I want to take a moment to applaud every woman who made the most difficult decision of her life to recognize that she was not in a position to commit to caring for another human being for the next few decades. Her choice was painful, without social support, and with a grief that must, due to prejudice, be carried privately.

    As for Carly, I wonder how much she cared about the children of the 35,000 people she fired? Back in the pre-obamacare days, that meant they lost their health care as well as their means to pay their portion of the bill. As a parent of a child who is alive only because I could buy his health back, I know without a doubt that many children suffered from her incompetence.

    Her stance on the stupid war on drugs is independent reason for disgust. If she lost a child to addiction, she knows that the problem is that the stupid war sucks all the money into punishment, not treatment. Consistent with her management incompetence, she can't recognize that punishment is wasted on the sick, but treatment works. I know of no parent of a child fighting addiction that supports our stupid policies.

    She's just an arrogant hypocrite.

  25. Anonymous9:29 PM


  26. Our Lad4:30 AM

    How can an entire political party have their collective head so far up their collective ass? Fucking boggles the mind.

  27. Anonymous5:29 AM

    This doc is great! Griffin, ask her to comment (and her 9 buddies too) about Sarah's "wild ride" delivery story! They will blow that sucker out of the water so fast that Alaske may want to look at the credentials of Sarah's OB.


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