Wednesday, September 16, 2015

Republican Debate Open Thread.

Courtesy of CNN:  

Donald Trump will play the lead role in the second Republican presidential debate tonight -- but his rivals are jockeying to steal his spotlight. 

As the GOP's frontrunner, Trump will once again take center stage at CNN's debate at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library. With Reagan's Air Force One as the backdrop, Trump will be flanked by retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who has been increasingly eager to take on the combative businessman. 

Meanwhile, one newcomer to the prime-time debate -- Carly Fiorina -- seems poised and ready to take on Trump directly. 

With the Iowa caucuses less than five months away and pressure mounting for the middle-tier candidates, the CNN debate offers an opening for candidates to deliver a presidential performance -- and avoid getting lost in the Donald Trump show. But a misstep could damage their presidential prospects.

At this point as much as I wish I could avoid seeing this, there is really no way to tear your eyes away.

It is like a car crash on a busy highway. Only it never ends and in every car is somebody that you really would not mind seeing horribly disfigured.

Was that a terrible thing to say? It was wasn't it?
Everything is all about Trump. He is like a virus that has infected the GOP body, and all it can do is focus on fighting the spread of the disease.

Carly Fiorina's drop the mic moment. 
I still don't like her though.

118 comments:

  1. Anonymous4:03 PM

    where is everybody? the first part was pretty awesome. and by awesome i mean like watching a toilet overflow, fascinating yet horrifying.

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    1. Anonymous4:27 PM

      No interest whatsoever.

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    2. Anonymous4:45 PM

      I'm binge watching Southpark. The 19th season opener is tonight. I don't even know where CNN is on my 700 channels...I think all the news channels are blocked by my partner.

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    3. Anonymous6:17 PM

      I can't find the debate or CNN on my tv! Enjoying the pundits though.

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    4. I'm binge watching Primeval (original BBC) on HULU. I'll switch to a Criminal Minds repeat at 9pm, then back to Primeval on HULU.

      I'm no masochist.

      I really don't care until the GOP puts someone on the ballot. Then I probably still won't care except as an object of ridicule and scorn.

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    5. Anonymous9:08 PM

      I loved the BBC Primevil. Not so much the U.S. follow-up.

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    6. Anonymous3:39 AM

      Wow !!!!! This was the perfect example of the current Republican party. A Clown Show. And listening to blow hard msnbc explain it all? comedy and terror !!!! Total Air heads AND they wasted American's time and money. TOXIC WASTE.

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    7. In tussle between Trump and Bush, the telling thing that came out loud and clear was Trump telling Bush, "Don't make me look small."

      A begging moment on his part, thinking it wasn't.

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    8. No. 1 image of these postings is yours, 4:03.
      Debates ... like watching a toilet overflow.

      Yes, it was compellingly repellant.

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  2. Anonymous4:36 PM

    I have never missed a debate for either party. Tonight I am watching Longmire. I no give a shit!
    What a bunch of dregs.

    Filo

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    1. Anonymous5:51 PM

      Me too!! I LOVE Longmire!! Great show!

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    2. Anonymous6:31 PM

      We've been watching Longmire too!!
      ~Canuck~

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    3. Anonymous9:09 PM

      Is Longmire back??? I remember reading that Netflix had bought the show, but I haven't logged on in a while. Been too crazy busy.

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  3. Trump will get along with Putin.

    Of course he will, they both belong to Egomaniacs Anonymous.

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    1. Anonymous6:49 PM

      PLEASE, God, don't let them have a bare chest flaunting contest!!!!!!!

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  4. Carly Fiorina wants to prepare our military for a second Cold War.

    Gee, not scary at all.

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  5. Why is Ted Cruz staring right at me?

    Is he trying to steal my soul?

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    1. Anonymous5:57 PM

      I know, that was creepy!

      R in NC

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    2. Anonymous6:19 PM

      Cruz is creepy. His face gives me the shivers and I want to take a shower. Elmer Gantry, he is.

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    3. Snidely Whiplash.

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  6. Rand Paul is saying things that make sense.

    That can't be right.

    I'm high again aren't I?

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    1. ManxMamma4:58 PM

      I feel the same way.I think I need some medical marijuana! I'm sure these voices are phantoms.

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    2. Yah, that scared me too!

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    3. ManxMamma5:07 PM

      Does anyone think these candidates (read bozos) understand the difference between Ashkenazic and Sephardic Jews and how they influence Israeli politics?

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    4. Anonymous5:58 PM

      Yep, same reaction here.

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    5. Anonymous6:11 PM

      Umm, just so you know most of us don't know the difference between the different jews or protestants or catholics or agnostics and what not. You religious people expect everyone to care about your different sky-fairy obsessions but really, no one but you cares.

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    6. 6:11 I'm a historian and an atheist. The history of Palestine and its residents are very important to understanding what is going on there. Your ignorance is astounding.

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    7. Anonymous7:10 PM

      I'm with you MM. Astounding, and scary.

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    8. No, he just seems that way in comparison to the rest of the Tributes.

      Let the Hunger Games Begin!

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    9. Anonymous7:48 PM

      He is all for you getting high! me too!

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    10. Anonymous4:22 AM

      I know, right: it's astonishing when one of the clowns is not actually wrong about everything. Marco Rubio had a few moments as well, although he made up for them 10 times over through the night including the comments on climate change. (Ever heard of leadership, Marco?)

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  7. Janice A Soderquist4:47 PM

    Is Trump going down because of the debates? He does not seem to be doing well.

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  8. Where is Trump?

    I did not tune in to watch these other idiots.

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  9. Attacking Planned Parenthood.

    FINALLY a topic that everybody on the stage can be wrong about at the same time.

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    1. OH Gosh! Carly is making me crazier than the men who want to defund /close PP! I hate these people.

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  10. Good news ladies. Donald Trump is going to take care of you.

    Why does it sound like a potential mob hit when he says it?

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    1. Anonymous6:23 PM

      Discounts on all cosmetic surgery for rich people - the IN crowd.

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    2. More like the Grinch giving us a pat on the head and a cup of water.

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    3. Anonymous8:25 PM

      To me, it sounded like he would make sure we are "satisfied." Umm. No thanks.

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  11. Anonymous5:05 PM

    Why are there no fact-checkers? Sad. To see a startling difference in debates, watch the Canadian leaders debate from last night.

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  12. Anonymous5:09 PM

    And to think according to the Peebots, the smartest candidate isn't on the stage... Man these are some fine idiot bench players the Conservatives have!

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  13. Anonymous5:10 PM

    I really despise these people. Hard to believe one of them will be the party leader.

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  14. Eduardo5:18 PM

    I've lost too many brain cells listening to these blabbering idiots. Honestly I would be scared if either of them would become president, they are so disconnected from reality. The US has an great influence around the world. It is not fair that Americans can elect a fool and the rest of the world will have to suffer the consequences.
    Tuning off disgusted.

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  15. I think that turning this GOP debate into a drinking game was not the best idea.

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    1. Anonymous7:49 PM

      lol. they lose. you lose. easiest drinking game ever.

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    2. Anonymous9:12 PM

      I lasted 20 min before my cat had to take over my typing.

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  16. Anonymous5:22 PM

    Oh fuck a duck. Trump says we all need to "assimilate" and speak English. So when Trump goes to Europe and Asia to make deals, what language does he speak? Fucking hypocrite.

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    1. Does that include Palin or is speaking 'murican good enough?

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    2. Anonymous7:38 PM

      What languages do his first and third wives speak?

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    3. Anonymous7:51 PM

      He speaks Thug.

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  17. Anonymous5:24 PM

    Bobbly head Fiorina has that "OH NO YOU DIDN'T!!!" black woman head shaking thing going. Barf. The woman has no soul.

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  18. Anonymous5:25 PM

    I can't play these debate drinking games anymore. I can hear the voices, but I can't find the TV. Stumbling to the kitchen for popcorn, but where is the damn door?

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  19. I'm so disgusted by the GOP clown car. I thought it was bad in 2012. This is an embarrassment to the United States. The rest of the world - who mostly have a very favorable opinion of President Obama - are watching in amazement. The ugly American on display.

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    1. emrysa9:33 PM

      yep it's a shame, for sure.

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  20. Anonymous5:32 PM

    Welcome to America where white kids can walk around holding guns, but a Muslim kid is criminalized for using his brains

    A Muslim boy was arrested at school in TX because teachers thought his homemade clock was a bomb. #IStandWithAhmed

    http://theobamadiary.com/2015/09/16/a-tweet-or-two-317/

    President Obama

    @POTUS

    Cool clock, Ahmed. Want to bring it to the White House? We should inspire more kids like you to like science. It's what makes America great.
    9:58 AM - 16 Sep 2015

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    1. Anonymous6:29 PM

      Ahmed Mohamed says he's going to the White House — and then he's transferring schools

      http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/16/9341309/ahmed-mohamed-school-transfer

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    2. Anonymous6:42 PM

      https://twitter.com/hashtag/IStandWithAhmed?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc^tfw

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    3. Anonymous7:37 PM

      Not only the WH, but NASA, Google, and MIT have invited him over, and I think he's been offered an internship at Twitter. The kid is going places, and his teachers should be fired, not to mention the cops...they couldn't recognize a clock when they saw it?

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    4. Anonymous9:25 PM

      Repuglicans only like clocks that go backwards 200 yrs.

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    5. Anonymous4:15 AM

      Try 500 years . think Inquisition

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  21. Anonymous5:41 PM

    Trump lied about Florida casino plan. Bush told truth according to CNN!

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  22. They changed the rules so Fiorina could make the majors since she dominated the minors.

    And poor Gilmore didn't rate enough to even make the minors.

    I think Gilmore will be the next to be voted off the island.

    BTW did you see Colbert last night? He did a hunger games thing with Rick Perry as a fallen tribute. They flashed his picture on the ceiling and Colbert buried his glasses in a teeny coffin.

    What this really shows is the media's control over our choices. They want Fiorina in and Gilmore out. They changed the rules to include Fiorina in the main but wouldn't allow Gilmore in the minor even though Perry is out. There are only four minor debaters. Don't tell me they didn't have room to include Gilmore. Sure he isn't polling well, but that's not really the point is it?

    The real point is CNN is deciding who they want to run for president.

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    1. Anonymous6:41 PM

      I like the analogy of the GOP primary to the reality show "Survivor."

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    2. Wasn't the winner of the first Survivor show a guy who went around totally naked? He discomforted the others and got them off course so they flopped at the various trials.

      We could do something similar with debates such as this with overcrowded fields. Require that all candidates debate naked.

      This way we are positive that they can't be receiving advice à la Bush with the box between his shoulder blades. Writing paper and pens will be provided so that cons such as Romney can't bring in cheat sheets.

      Simply the naked truth.

      Brains, an ability to remain calm and focused under pressure, and a sense of humor are all vital parts of the job of governing this country.

      Anybody too insecure to stand there (even with a podium, and cameras arranged to show from waist up) isn't secure enough to hold this job. Anybody so juvenile as to joke at others' expense isn't mature enough to hold this job. Anybody who doesn't really want the victory simply won't show up (which will narrow the crowd to a nice manageable amount).

      In ancient Rome and Greece orators, poets, gymnasts and debaters all competed in the nude.

      In Old England, and other countries, the king stood naked on the balcony as part of the coronation ritual. The health of the ruler WAS the health of the land, and a cripple or weakling could not claim the crown.

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    3. That was Richard.

      And later he did prison time for tax evasion.

      Wonder which clown will go naked?

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    4. I think they should all be given guns and let them shoot it out to win. Can't have a President that can't shoot straight. (in the nude, of course)

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  23. If they don't have a fistfight in the next five minutes I may have to turn this off and get back to living my life.

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    1. Anonymous6:02 PM

      I took a timeout to watch a rerun of Modern Family.

      R in NC

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    2. Anonymous7:36 PM

      Does it mean anything that the ventriloquist won America's Got Talent tonight???

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    3. Anonymous7:50 PM

      Yeah, my boyfriend wanted a knife fight. He fell asleep right away.

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  24. Anonymous5:52 PM

    Be afraid. One of these idiots may be the next POTUS.

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    1. No way.

      At this rate Hillary, Bernie or Joe Biden could win. Doesn't matter who.

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  25. Anonymous5:53 PM

    Conservatives are concerned about Iran getting nuclear weapons. We should all be fearful of one of these fifteen knuckleheads getting our launch codes.

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      Anonymous5:53 PM

      I think you win the internets tonight

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    2. emrysa9:43 PM

      dayum, so true dat.

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  26. Anonymous5:57 PM

    Huckabee, goes after Clinton regarding E-Mails.... When Huckabee left office he had all the computers destroyed, destroyed! Cost the taxpayers 300,000. But in the state of Arkansas it is okay, If you are their type of Christian. I have always wondered if child porn was on those computers.

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  27. Balzafiar6:00 PM

    Hmm; interesting. I finally got to see all the candidates in one place. Just guessing, but the only ones I think will survive the long haul to the finals are Rubio, Carson, Trump, Kasich and in a long shot, Fiorina and Graham. I doubt that Rubio will be the final candidate, but stranger things have happened. At least he's likeable.

    If Fiorina gets the nomination I think I will move to another country.

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    1. Anonymous7:49 PM

      Fiorina would be a great nominee. She is basically unelectable in a national election. She'd never stand up to Hillary but having two women run for pres would be indescribably wonderful!

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  28. A Superfan In Atlanta6:05 PM

    I couldn't take it any more! My brain is aching. I checked out at 9:50 EST. Tried to take one for the team so that I could at least go toe to toe in wit and snark tomorrow.

    Sorry to let the team down. Tonight, I am the weakest link :(

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    1. Anonymous7:03 PM

      Me too, gave up when it seemed Rand Paul was the deepest of the bench...

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    2. Cracklin Charlie6:19 AM

      Don't beat yourself up, Superfan. At least you tried.

      I wouldn't watch one second of that overhyped blowhard festival. I have better things to do, like sweeping the acorns off my deck.

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  29. Anonymous6:09 PM

    When a candidate on this clown show (especially Fiorina) can't answer a question did you notice they simply resort to attacking democrats? Instead of using their very valuable short time speaking about their own record and America in a positive way the person will attack Obama or Hillary. That may get a lot of audience claps because they already agree but the anti-Obama/Hillary rhetoric is something that the right wing has already been doing for years!

    Ben Carson makes me want to snore. He sounds exactly like a bedside doctor. "Now, you need to quit eating so much ice cream because we all know what that's going to do to your health, ok?" I want to ask him if he will give me Snoopy band-aid or Flintstone vitamin.

    Jake Tapper wants them to fight. He poses the question about one person and then tells the other person they have to answer. In other words it's pretty much what Jerry Springer does when they ring that loud bell. Ding Ding Ding! 1..2..3..FIGHT! I honestly can't respect that kind of questioning a lot. That just highlights that CNN likes a good clown show. But maybe it's not so bad. So do I.

    -Colleen

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    1. emrysa9:45 PM

      "I want to ask him if he will give me Snoopy band-aid or Flintstone vitamin." lol that was good! they're all a big snore fest.

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    2. LOL! My 16yo daughter said "Mom, how in the world would anyone ever be able to listen to Dr. Carson if he ever became president and had to do the state of the union addresses?" and then my 13yo son said "OMG, he might even have good things to say but I think everyone would fall asleep!" and then daughter said "He seems nice for a doctor but he's NOT presidential and he doesn't understand separation of church and state." and then son said "Well at least he isn't hateful like Trump." *feels good about the humans my children are becoming*

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  30. Anonymous6:11 PM

    Donald Trump Chews Up Scott Walker and Spits Him Out At CNN Republican Debate

    Scott Walker tried to attack Donald Trump and fell flat on his face as the billionaire brought up the Wisconsin governor’s record of economic failure in Wisconsin.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2015/09/16/donald-trump-chews-scott-walker-spits-cnn-republican-debate.html

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  31. Anonymous6:18 PM

    Notice the 2 outsiders - Trump & Carson - highest in the polls. RW sick of lying politicians & they seem to recognize that all the GOP insiders lie continually.

    If you were FORCED to vote for one of those people on the clown show stage who would you vote for? I'd go with TrumpLOL. Carson seems like a pushover.

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    1. Anonymous6:26 PM

      Kasich.Your boy is a blowhard bully with no knowledge of foreign affairs or ability to interact with actual adults who are nor enamored of reality tv stars.

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    2. Anonymous6:40 PM

      I guess I pick Trump because it would give it to a dem. Kasich does seem more sincere but is boring to religious rednecks.

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    3. Anonymous7:54 PM

      If I was FORCED to vote for one of them, I'd go to Canada.

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    4. Anonymous9:28 PM

      People like the repuglican clown car are why I have never given up my dual citizenship.

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    5. emrysa9:47 PM

      lol and 7:54 has won the round!

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  32. Anonymous6:21 PM

    Trumped: His 8 most memorable debate lines (so far)

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/gop-debate-donald-trump-213735

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  33. Anonymous6:26 PM

    It's just too painful for me to watch...
    ~Canuck~

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    1. Anonymous6:43 PM

      I started to get angry when they were piling on Hillary's emails and the doctored videos supposedly showing people sawing off breathing babies' limbs and selling them for profit. Both outright lies.

      Then I poured myself another glass of wine.

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  34. kraftysue6:42 PM

    When discussing national security, I almost fell over when Bush said "my brother kept us safe". And the lying about the Planned Parenthood videos was gut wrenching to me.

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    1. Anonymous7:13 PM

      "my brother kept us safe," When I heard Jeb say that I was yelling at my computer screen, "9/11 happened on Dubya's watch!"

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    2. Anonymous8:14 PM

      That was one of the stupidest things that Jeb! could say and I was yelling at my computer, too. When Obama was running in 2008, Cheney and others were saying how America would not be safe under Obama. Seven years later, we are still much better off than under Bush plus Osama bin Laden is dead, the economy has improved and lots more people are working. The lies spewing from the debate stage are a lot more numerous than any facts.

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    3. Anonymous8:25 PM

      Bush's reckless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan led to the horrors in Middle East today!

      People! Connect the dots!

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  35. Anonymous6:46 PM

    Hey how come they're not all the same height? Wasn't that an issue in some of the debates? I didn't realize Walker was so short.

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  36. Anonymous7:13 PM

    President Obama’s Response To GOP Debate Foolishness

    http://theobamadiary.com/2015/09/16/president-obamas-response-to-gop-debate-foolishness/

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  37. Anonymous7:17 PM

    If I had to pick one of these candidates, I would go with Rand Paul. He doesn't seem gung-ho to invade every country in the Middle East. I also like his views on marijuana and like how he calls them out as hypocrites in regards to states rights. And in a heartbeat he had Trump provide Rand's point about Trump being immature

    Of course I disagree with him on a lot. But he is the least revolting to me.

    Carly Fettuccini, or whatever her name is, she irritates the hell out of me. I did enjoy watching Trump slam her.

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    1. Anonymous7:53 PM

      ha ha ha @ Carly Fettuccini. Her whistling esses everytime she says a word with the S letter is very annoying. And that face! (j/k) Now don't beau guard that joint!

      Rubio is the teenager of the bunch. He always tries to sound so grown up.

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    2. Anonymous8:16 PM

      Carly started out the debate just okay but she got creepier and creepier the longer it went. My eyes are still sore watching her eyes blink continuously.

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    3. Anonymous10:01 PM

      Remember the demon sheep ad?

      Carly Fiorina is a demon ewe.

      dowl

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  38. Anonymous8:20 PM

    Sarah Palin will have to find another ass to kiss, Trump is done.

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    1. Anonymous9:06 PM

      Any guesses is how she's going to do that. She came out loving him. She can't back down now. Don't piss the Donald off!

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  39. Anonymous8:37 PM

    Carly will never be POTUS and truly is an obnoxious woman - I agree with Trump in that she is not physically attractive. Kindness and warmth don't flow from her at all!

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    1. Anonymous9:14 PM

      She was a horrible CEO, and I suspect she should be in jail. No soul, no integrity.

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    2. Anonymous3:43 AM

      A lot of my friends lost their jobs over her. She's less than human.

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  40. Anonymous9:08 PM

    I'm not always able to keep up with the latest but here's what I'd like to know. Didn't Donald say that he was going to win and then quit and hand it over to the vice president? Any word on that, anyone? If that is true...I just don't hear anyone in the media asking him about that.

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    1. Anonymous3:49 AM

      Nope. Lawrence Lessing (spelling?) Democrat who wants in the running. He said that not the Donald.

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  41. Anonymous9:21 PM

    @7:53 Don't usually butt into someone else's comment but in this case I really can't resist.

    The phrase 'don't bogart (or bogie) that joint' was in reference to Humphrey Bogart, a famous actor from the 30's who smoked like a chimney. There are other urban meanings attached but my point is - it isn't 'beau guard'. It's Bogart'.

    I apologize for my rudeness but it is just so ironic (to me) that one would so blatantly criticize Sarah Palin's inept command of the English language... with an even bigger gaffe of their own :)

    -Oz

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  42. Anonymous9:51 PM

    Somehow I managed to get on the call list for opinion research polling and get calls from several different pollsters.

    TRUMP ALL THE WAY!

    It's almost as much fun as keeping that rooster haired kid on american idol by robo-voting to drive up his popularity.

    The longer Trump stays on top the worse it will be for everyone else running in the republican primary. His nonsense could cause the party to self destruct, especially if he shows up at their convention demanding to be the candidate because his poll numbers are so (artificially) high.

    Good times! Every call from a pollster is almost as good as a bong hit!

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  43. Anonymous11:19 PM

    Very entertaining! It proves beyond a doubt that not only are none of them presidential material, but the whole fabric of the Republican party is not fit for governance. There was nothing said of substance, just nonsense of shutting down Obama's achievements and Planned Parenthood. And of course religious taxation models 2hich reward only the wealtny. Trump is the best among them.

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  44. The rest of the world was put on notice last night: We're the best and if you don't love us, then you'll fear us because we will impose our will and our principles on you and if you don't bend to our will, we will destroy you.

    Biggest military known to mankind, war first, diplomacy second, do away with Obamacare, fix that decades old immigrant problem, replace the minimum wage with the belief you can get a better job, impose your religious views on those you serve, criminalize marijuana on the federal level, etc.

    The picture I got of America and the world last night was so negative it seems beyond hope. What a nasty, negative, hateful group of people. The exploitation of fear was simply astounding.

    I heard almost nothing positive, nothing that really sounded like policy, just a bunch of chest thumping and sabre rattling.

    Rand Paul was the only one this time around who actually sounded reasonable.

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  45. Anonymous5:40 PM

    My two funniest moments were when Carley and Trump got in a pissing match over who sucked more at business, and got reprimanded from Christie. And Bush crediting his brother for "keeping is safe" after 9 11(the first one). But, if I had to pick one as a "winner", I couldn't.

    Any one else lose it when Donald suggested Ivanka to be the first woman on paper money? I laughed so hard had to make fresh popcorn, The man has a sick incest fetish, What has Ivanka done for our country that deserves recognition?

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